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Star Member Amerigo Vespucci
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Aw, ****..MSNBC's showing 7/11 security cam footage of Trayvon Martin "moments before he was killed"
7/11 security cam of him buying his Skittle and ice tea. Can only imagine how his parents will feel when they see this.
Oh, wait, all they have is footage of a kid buying something. Nevermind. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002700809)
DU ACTION COMMITTEE AGENDA, 2012
- Nominate convenience store footage of Trayvon Martin buying stuff for Academy Awards (Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Screenplay, Best Costume, Best Cinematography, Lifetime Achievement Award)
- Nobel Peace Prize Award renamed to Martin Peace Price Award
- Perennial awarding of Martin Peace Prize to Barack 0bama
- Replace Jesus on all crucifixes with Trayvon Martin
- Rename Mt Rushmore to Mt St Martin
- Add 0bama to Mt St Martin
- Rename Academy of St Martin in the Fields to Academy of St Trayvon Martin in the 7/11
- Nationalize Skittles
- Replace wheat and arrows in American eagle's clutches with Skittles and iced tea
- Require all Americans to wear a "grill" for a day each year
- Declare publication of actual pictures of Trayvon Martin's actual skin tone illegal and punishable by death
- FREE MUMIA
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Oh, wait, all they have is footage of a kid buying something. Nevermind.
But someone somewhere is emotionally distressed so someone has to die for it.
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Oh no, he bought skittles and died for it. Anything that has "Breaking News Alert" and MSNBC in the same sentence is a laugh in itself. It should be "Breaking Opinion Alert" on MSNBC.
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Hey lurking DUmbasses:
A witness told Florida cops that he saw Trayvon Martin straddling George Zimmerman and pummeling the neighborhood watch captain “MMA style†shortly before the unarmed teen was felled by a gunshot to the chest.
The witness’s account was included in Sanford Police Department reports released today.
Interviewed by cops about 90 minutes after the shooting, the witness--whose name was redacted from police documents--said that he was inside his home when he heard a “commotion coming from the walk way†behind his residence.
The man recalled seeing “a black male, wearing a dark colored ‘hoodie’ on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help.†The black male, he added, “was mounted on the white or Hispanic male and throwing punches ‘MMA (mixed martial arts) style.'â€
The witness--who was in his living room and about 30 feet away from the confrontation-- said he called out to the two men that he was dialing 911. “He then heard a ‘pop,’†police reported, and saw the black male “laid out on the grass.â€
Zimmerman is pictured above in photos taken by police shortly after the February 26 shooting.
The police reports also include observations from two Sanford cops regarding Zimmerman’s physical appearance following the shooting. Officer Timothy Smith reported that Zimmerman was “bleeding from the nose and back of his head,†while Officer Jonathan Mead noted that he “appeared to have a broken and bloody nose and swelling of his face.â€
Investigators also reported receiving medical reports from Altamonte Medical Practice “identifying the injuries sustained by Zimmerman on the evening of 2/26/2012.†The records indicated that he suffered an “open wound of scalp†and “Nasal bones, closed fracture.â€
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/martin-zimmerman-witness-758903
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- Require all Americans to wear a "grill" for a day each year
Pass a 2000+ page bill on completely partisan voting lines that requires each citizen to purchase one grill per year of at least 2000 dollars cost. Use the Commerce Clause to justify it.
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Oh no, he bought skittles and died for it. Anything that has "Breaking News Alert" and MSNBC in the same sentence is a laugh in itself. It should be "Breaking Opinion Alert" on MSNBC.
So he had the munchies! And I'm sure there isn't a burglar in the whole wide world who didn't stop at a convenience store while meandering through a neighborhood looking for easy marks. Makes a convenient excuse when neighborhood watch finds you skulking between houses in the shadows instead of walking home.
Cindie
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Is the DA going to admit the Skittles and can of tea as evidence? Maybe the Smithsonian has room for it.
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Trayvon keeps his pointy little head way back in the hoodie to hide his face from the camera....practicing for his first/next convenience store heist.
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Trayvon keeps his pointy little head way back in the hoodie to hide his face from the camera....practicing for his first/next convenience store heist.
That's what I noticed when I first saw the video. Have some brains, put your hoodie down in a store. And no, DUmmies, not because he's black. Many races use hoodies to hide their faces when they decide to rob a store or a person. If I was that clerk, I'd be very suspicious of that customer, no matter their race.
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That's what I noticed when I first saw the video. Have some brains, put your hoodie down in a store. And no, DUmmies, not because he's black. Many races use hoodies to hide their faces when they decide to rob a store or a person. If I was that clerk, I'd be very suspicious of that customer, no matter their race.
There are stores in this area that will not allows anyone wearing a hoodie in. I agree with them.
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There are stores in this area that will not allows anyone wearing a hoodie in. I agree with them.
Some of our stores do that here around Halloween. It says something like, "People wearing masks will not be allowed in" I always found it quite dumb because the sign comes down a day or two after Halloween. I guess mask wearers can then enter the premises.
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So he had the munchies! And I'm sure there isn't a burglar in the whole wide world who didn't stop at a convenience store while meandering through a neighborhood looking for easy marks. Makes a convenient excuse when neighborhood watch finds you skulking between houses in the shadows instead of walking home.
Cindie
Exactly, criminals like candy and soft drinks as much as anyone else does, it means absolutely nothing one way or the other. But for some reason this morning even one of the females on Fox fell for it as him having a completely innocent purpose in the area, and as if Zimmerman would've known what he did in the store anyway.
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How does anyone know that thug in the hoodie is innocent li'l Trayvon?
He may as well have been wearing a mask.
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How does anyone know that thug in the hoodie is innocent li'l Trayvon?
He may as well have been wearing a mask.
I was thinking the same thing. I think they go by the time stamps of when he was there?
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I was thinking the same thing. I think they go by the time stamps of when he was there?
Could have been some other kid in the neighborhood...
If he was my kid, I'd probably only be able to identify him by his shoes. The guy in the video was wearing all black for the most part. His shoes were red... I think? His shoes were the only thing that stuck out to me when I saw it.
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On another site I was reading a thread where they were talking about the video. They were talking about how he was swaying back and forth when he was at the counter and how long it took him to count his change to pay for the tea and skittles. Also how he walked the wrong way to leave, walked back over to the refrigerator section then turned around again. It was just kind of odd. They also commented that the clerk seemed nervous. They said he was most likely high at the time in their opinion. They only thing I noticed when I watched it (before I read the thread) was the swaying back and forth and I thought it was odd how he acted after he purchased the items.
It was very sad to see him, knowing not too long after he would be dead. After looking at the autopsy report I was wondering about his tattoos that were noted, who lets their underage kid get tattoos? What establishment would tattoo a kid even with their parents permission? Admittedly, I don't know much about tattoos though.
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Could have been some other kid in the neighborhood...
If he was my kid, I'd probably only be able to identify him by his shoes. The guy in the video was wearing all black for the most part. His shoes were red... I think? His shoes were the only thing that stuck out to me when I saw it.
I would be able to tell if it was my kid by the way he walked. Also they have a record of what he bought and the same kind of AZ ice tea (watermelon flavor) was found next to him.
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Yeah - Darling little Trayvon was wasted - That much is certain. As for the tats, Most states have age restrictions, so I can only assume adorable baby Tray had a fake ID.
Seriously though - I feel bad that a kid got killed, and all parties involved are going to have to live with this for the rest of their lives. But the truth remains - Trayvon Martin wasn't the sweet, adorable angel that the left has made him out as. It seems he was a wannabe gangsta, and sadly, he died like one- before he was old or wise enough to realize he was acting like a damned fool.
Edit : Forgot to paste some facts : From the same Wiki article I linked to before..
Most notably, the two areas of motor control and memory are where the effects of cannabis are directly and irrefutably evident. Cannabinoids, depending on the dose, inhibit the transmission of neural signals through the basal ganglia and cerebellum. At lower doses, cannabinoids seem to stimulate locomotion while greater doses inhibit it, most commonly manifested by lack of steadiness (body sway and hand steadiness) in motor tasks that require a lot of attention. Other brain regions, like the cortex, the cerebellum, and the neural pathway from cortex to striatum, are also involved in the control of movement and contain abundant cannabinoid receptors, indicating their possible involvement as well.
Experiments on animal and human tissue have demonstrated a disruption of short-term memory formation,[11] which is consistent with the abundance of CB1 receptors on the hippocampus, the region of the brain most closely associated with memory. Cannabinoids inhibit the release of several neurotransmitters in the hippocampus, like acetylcholine, norepinephrine, and glutamate, resulting in a major decrease in neuronal activity in that region. This decrease in activity resembles a "temporary hippocampal lesion."[11]
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That's what I noticed when I first saw the video. Have some brains, put your hoodie down in a store. And no, DUmmies, not because he's black. Many races use hoodies to hide their faces when they decide to rob a store or a person. If I was that clerk, I'd be very suspicious of that customer, no matter their race.
Didn't the Unabomber where a hoodie? As I recall he was lily white.
Cindie
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Zimmerman's defense is hardly resting on proving that Trayvon did not buy Skittles.
We're all prepared to admit Trayvon bought Skittles.
That's not the issue. The issue is, did he, unprovoked, attack Zimmerman with deadly force?
That's what I'd want to know as a juror. Not whether he bought ice tea beforehand.
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Zimmerman's defense is hardly resting on proving that Trayvon did not buy Skittles.
We're all prepared to admit Trayvon bought Skittles.
That's not the issue. The issue is, did he, unprovoked, attack Zimmerman with deadly force?
That's what I'd want to know as a juror. Not whether he bought ice tea beforehand.
You don't have to be attacked by deadly force to use deadly force.
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It was very sad to see him, knowing not too long after he would be dead. After looking at the autopsy report I was wondering about his tattoos that were noted, who lets their underage kid get tattoos? What establishment would tattoo a kid even with their parents permission? Admittedly, I don't know much about tattoos though.
Depending on the law in their particular area parents can sign a consent form.
Tattoos can be quite expensive. The maybe 3'' one that I have ran me upwards of $200 10 years ago. So first of all if he managed to actually get them at a shop then where did he get the money? He had a few and that is pricey. Or could have the precious little angel been hanging around the sort that is proficient in doing prison tattoos?
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Zimmerman's defense is hardly resting on proving that Trayvon did not buy Skittles.
We're all prepared to admit Trayvon bought Skittles.
That's not the issue. The issue is, did he, unprovoked, attack Zimmerman with deadly force?
That's what I'd want to know as a juror. Not whether he bought ice tea beforehand.
But, but, but, but, but the skittles prove that he is an innocent little angel. So there for he could not have attacked Zimmerman with deadly force. /DU mode.
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Hey lurking DUmbasses:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/martin-zimmerman-witness-758903
What a He Man, lock the doors, run upstairs and call the cops? How about grab your pistol run outside and hold the little punk while your wife calls? Must be a product of the liberal loon upbringing.
By the way Hi everyone.
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I think it's horrible that a teen was killed.
I think it's horrible that Zimmerman has been tried in the media on the basis of a tenth of the evidence.
I would be horrified if my son had been shot that way...and have to admit that he would have been as likely to be wearing a hoodie as any other kid. (On the other hand, while he's a very good fighter and has done some amateur boxing, I don't think he'd have jumped a guy for questioning him.)
I'd also be horrified if my son was the Neighborhood watch guy who thought he was in a kill-or-be-killed situation and shot someone...especially if the media ran with the story and tried to get him lynched.
Both of them made stupid mistakes...and stupid mistakes can get you killed.
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I think it's horrible that a teen was killed.
I think it's horrible that Zimmerman has been tried in the media on the basis of a tenth of the evidence.
I would be horrified if my son had been shot that way...and have to admit that he would have been as likely to be wearing a hoodie as any other kid. (On the other hand, while he's a very good fighter and has done some amateur boxing, I don't think he'd have jumped a guy for questioning him.)
I'd also be horrified if my son was the Neighborhood watch guy who thought he was in a kill-or-be-killed situation and shot someone...especially if the media ran with the story and tried to get him lynched.
Both of them made stupid mistakes...and stupid mistakes can get you killed.
Ain't that the truth! And the H5.
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Depending on the law in their particular area parents can sign a consent form.
Tattoos can be quite expensive. The maybe 3'' one that I have ran me upwards of $200 10 years ago. So first of all if he managed to actually get them at a shop then where did he get the money? He had a few and that is pricey. Or could have the precious little angel been hanging around the sort that is proficient in doing prison tattoos?
Tattoo machines and supplies can be bought with no problem, anyone can set up shop in home or basement.
Big business in Asian comunitys for the equipment used to tattoo cosmetic tattoos, eye liner and eye brows, even lip liner. Cost for a very good job done in a kitchen of an unlicensed artist is about $200 last time I heard. The difference in the reguler tattoo equipment is much as the machine for cosmetics is not one or those big honking machines for body Tattoos.
Professional cosmetics run about $600-$800. Insurence costs and insuring the dye and all equipment is steral, business licences and inspections, zoning laws are by passed by the Outlaw tattooests.
Anyone from 14 on down can get a great professional looking Tattoo for very little money today without anything like perental consent as they do cigarettes, booze, drugs and sex.
In this young mans case with his dark skin, for a Tat to show up, the Artist has to use special dyes to color it, make it POP against the skin.
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What a He Man, lock the doors, run upstairs and call the cops? How about grab your pistol run outside and hold the little punk while your wife calls? Must be a product of the liberal loon upbringing.
By the way Hi everyone.
As a gun owner, I can't do that. If I didn't see who started the fight, why would I come out and hold someone (possibly the innocent party) hostage until the police show up?
If a fight like that broke out at my complex, the last thing I am going to do is run outside with my gun drawn. I'll call the police, but I'm not going out there to put my life in danger too.
That's just my two cents.
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I think it's horrible that a teen was killed.
I think it's horrible that Zimmerman has been tried in the media on the basis of a tenth of the evidence.
I would be horrified if my son had been shot that way...and have to admit that he would have been as likely to be wearing a hoodie as any other kid. (On the other hand, while he's a very good fighter and has done some amateur boxing, I don't think he'd have jumped a guy for questioning him.)
I'd also be horrified if my son was the Neighborhood watch guy who thought he was in a kill-or-be-killed situation and shot someone...especially if the media ran with the story and tried to get him lynched.
Both of them made stupid mistakes...and stupid mistakes can get you killed.
H5
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As a gun owner, I can't do that. If I didn't see who started the fight, why would I come out and hold someone (possibly the innocent party) hostage until the police show up?
If a fight like that broke out at my complex, the last thing I am going to do is run outside with my gun drawn. I'll call the police, but I'm not going out there to put my life in danger too.
That's just my two cents.
If its just a fight, we can't do anything either and the determination is up to the person getting beat. If Martin had a firearm drawn about to shoot him as he's on top of Zimmerman, I'm within my rights to snipe the guy from my window.
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Or walk out and do it. Either or. Same goes for being in a bank. If I see a bank robber holding a gun to the head of the teller, I'm within my rights to bust a cap in his ass to stop that type of felony. People NEED to start doing this. It would make for a much politer society.
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Trayvon didn't make stupid mistakes, he made thug life reactions, a small technicality, but an accurate one I think.
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As a gun owner, I can't do that. If I didn't see who started the fight, why would I come out and hold someone (possibly the innocent party) hostage until the police show up?
If a fight like that broke out at my complex, the last thing I am going to do is run outside with my gun drawn. I'll call the police, but I'm not going out there to put my life in danger too.
That's just my two cents.
^5 Evil, one does not get involved in anything unless it involves a child without knowing the facts.
When crap happens outside ones home especially at night and the eye sight is impaired, this is what the Police are for. Even in broad day light to come across people in a rough and tumble fight in the middle of it is no reason to take sides as a civilian and run out with a lethal weapon and take upon your self the duty to decide who is the good guy or the bad guy, unless it is obvious one of the combatants is about to die from the other. ----One with a chain saw trying to hack off anothers head, or some person kicking a dog to death, then is the time to make a calculated decision, wait for the Cops or stop anyway one can the aggressor.
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Or could have the precious little angel been hanging around the sort that is proficient in doing prison tattoos?
Off topic, but that reminds me of my favorite prison tattoo ever.
I saw it on the arm of a late-night gas station attendant on the West Virginia Turnpike.
In large letters on his forearm: Born Looser
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Off topic, but that reminds me of my favorite prison tattoo ever.
I saw it on the arm of a late-night gas station attendant on the West Virginia Turnpike.
In large letters on his forearm: Born Looser
My favorite is a tattoo on a guy who was in my son's basic training class. It is on his chest, and has to be read in a mirror, and in the mirror appears as "Make Good Choices".
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If its just a fight, we can't do anything either and the determination is up to the person getting beat. If Martin had a firearm drawn about to shoot him as he's on top of Zimmerman, I'm within my rights to snipe the guy from my window.
True, but the guy who I replied to made it sound like it was okay to go out there and hold someone hostage for throwing some punches.