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Title: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: dane on May 11, 2012, 07:15:38 PM
Here's the OP, talking about military haircuts, one of which they fail to mention Obama has not had.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002676622
riverwalker (5,049 posts)
 One haircut no Romney menfolk ever had the one in bootcamp. Not Willard, or pappy, nor grandpappy, nor Willard's FIVE sons: Biff, Barf, Tad, Turd, and Thurston the IV (whatever their names are).

Then some blather about chicken hawks, and a comparison of Romney/McCain, and then this
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16. Mc Cain
So he served but if you bother to see all his Dad did for him(admiral in the Navy at that time) Including making sure he graduated from Annapolis, he was the bottom of the class and his jet was the one that started the massive fires on the USS Oriskiney during the Vietnam War which cost the lives o many very brave Saliors and while the fires were still burning he got to leave the ship and leaft his shipmate behind to fight the fires he started by the way. He pre-primed his jet before starting it (Go ahead use Wikipedia and look it up in is in the Naval inquiry into the fire)!! You might also look at what he did to stop any further searches for the POW's and how he treated the grieving wives (you can find that on YouTube) Mc Cain is a bloody stain on all those Veterans who served our country! Also the N.Vietnamese broke him and he made videos disparaging his fellow soldiers and the United States.. I could go on but...I did my home work will you???  
The DUmmy did his homework, according to him, and still managed to get most of the facts wrong.  McCain's plane did not start the fire and the DUmmy has it on the wrong ship
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Skul on May 11, 2012, 07:24:14 PM
"Pre-primed" his jet???  :lmao:
That DUmbass doesn't know squat about turbine engines.
Pre-primed, my rosey red ass. Jeez.
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Chris_ on May 11, 2012, 07:30:18 PM
"Pre-primed" his jet???  :lmao:
That DUmbass doesn't know squat about turbine engines.
Pre-primed, my rosey red ass. Jeez.
Jets run off gummed-up Rochesters.  You got to prime the bowl for them to start up right.
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: dane on May 11, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
"Pre-primed" his jet???  :lmao:
That DUmbass doesn't know squat about turbine engines.
Pre-primed, my rosey red ass. Jeez.
Even before I got banned, a lot of the stuff I read there was laughable (most of Nad's posts, for instance.)  This (the DUmmy's) post was not laughable, because it is so blatantly wrong and stupid, and so easy to research.

Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Skul on May 11, 2012, 07:35:03 PM
Jets run off gummed-up Rochesters.  You got to prime the bowl for them to start up right.
Oh, well, that explains it. :rotf:
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: USA4ME on May 11, 2012, 07:51:59 PM
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... his jet was the one that started the massive fires on the USS Oriskiney during the Vietnam War which cost the lives o many very brave Saliors and while the fires were still burning he got to leave the ship and leaft his shipmate behind to fight the fires he started by the way.

Huh!?!  I thought it was the USS Liberty.  Where's gator?

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Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Chris_ on May 11, 2012, 07:53:32 PM
Huh!?!  I thought it was the USS Liberty.  Where's gator?

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I thought it was the USS Forestal.

DUmmies don't know nothin'.
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: EagleKeeper on May 11, 2012, 07:56:36 PM
"Pre-primed" his jet???  :lmao:
That DUmbass doesn't know squat about turbine engines.
Pre-primed, my rosey red ass. Jeez.

All I can speak to is the P&W F-100-200, I know that in the cockpit there is one of those primer bulbs like on the front of my push mower...maybe that is what he's talking about. :lmao:

As far as CV-34 and the fire is concerned, there is no evidence whatsoever that McCains A-4 had anything to do with the fire.

It didn't have anything to do with ordnance loaded on any aircraft.

And for what it's worth there were 3 carrier fires that I'm relatively familiar with Oriskany, Forrestal and Enterprise.

Two of the fires were caused by 5 inch Zuni rockets cooking off and one was a parachute flare being handled by a n00b.
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Skul on May 11, 2012, 08:02:42 PM
All I can speak to is the P&W F-100-200, I know that in the cockpit there is one of those primer bulbs like on the front of my push mower...maybe that is what he's talking about. :lmao:

As far as CV-34 and the fire is concerned, there is no evidence whatsoever that McCains A-4 had anything to do with the fire.

It didn't have anything to do with ordnance loaded on any aircraft.

And for what it's worth there were 3 carrier fires that I'm relatively familiar with Oriskany, Forrestal and Enterprise.

Two of the fires were caused by 5 inch Zuni rockets cooking off and one was a parachute flare being handled by a n00b.
Push four times them move the choke to full before start?  :whistling:
Yer killin' me. :lmao:
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Chris_ on May 11, 2012, 08:07:34 PM
Was the glow plug light on in the cockpit?
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Freeper on May 11, 2012, 09:22:05 PM
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Also the N.Vietnamese broke him and he made videos disparaging his fellow soldiers and the United States.

First of all the North Vietnamese went well beyond sleep deprivation and making the prisoners drink Ensure. So who the **** are you to judge a man under those circumstances breaking? Secondly I doubt you criticized John F Kerry for disparaging  his fellow military members and the United States, and he can't even use the excuse that the enemy broke him. So go **** yourself you stupid asshole.  :censored:



Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 11, 2012, 09:47:52 PM
Huh!?!  I thought it was the USS Liberty.  Where's gator?

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Not even in jest!   :thatsright:

Thought that fire was started by a 5" rocket misfiring, not an aircraft engine fire.  But I didn't bother nadining it, since everything else the DUmmy posted was wrong, there's really no point in treating it that seriously anyway.
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Zathras on May 11, 2012, 11:52:49 PM
Cherokeeprogressive does do a good job of showing what an idiot that Dummy is regarding the Forrestal fire. McCain wasn't even on the Oriskiney at the time of the fire, which was caused by sailors mishandling aircraft parachute flares.
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: obumazombie on May 12, 2012, 02:00:44 AM
McCain had both his arms broken while he was being tortured by the NVA. They hung him from a position where his arms had to carry all his weight, and were cocked behind him so that his muscles would fatigue quickly and not be able to support his weight. To this day he is unable to raise his arms any higher than his shoulders, if that. As for the fire, it was the Forrestal aka the ForrestFire. A zuni rocket zoomed in from his left, and hit his fully fueled left drop tank squarely. He barely bails out quickly enough to avoid being consumed in the subsequent fireball. I have seen the PLAT camera video numerous times. None of this is conjecture. It is fact, not the wikipedia crap. The problem with the ensuing fire was the crew was unfamiliar with a new fire retardant called AFFF. Aqueous Film Forming Foam. It actually smothers the underlying fuel, preventing air, and fire from coming in contact with it. Once AFFF is laid down it should be allowed to set, but unprepared as this crew was, and not knowing any better, they had 2 hose teams laying down AFFF, and two using seawater. They ended up canceling each other out, or more accurately the seawater hose teams canceled out the AFFF hose teams. The fire could have been put out in a small fraction of the actual time, and far less damage would have occurred. Not one iota of any event the day of the ForrestFire was John McCain's fault. Despite a lot of policy disagreements I have had with him over the years he is a true blue war hero, and it would take an infinite number of owebumas and Kerrys to make one John McCain.
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: diesel driver on May 12, 2012, 05:23:32 AM
I noticed the thread quickly "evolved" into a K&R about DUmmie rivercrawlers pet names for Mitt's sons, after cherokeeprogressive slapped him down about McCain and the fire.   :lmao:
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Skul on May 12, 2012, 07:57:22 AM
Finally went over and read the thread. :lmao:
Had a laugh at the only one that responded to CP, then CP pretty much spanked his ass too. :asssmack:
Not another word said about it, the rest of the thread.
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: Skul on May 12, 2012, 09:18:14 AM
Teh curiousity got to me, and I went looking.
Here is where that poster found his smoking gun.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=119707
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JOHN MCCAIN'S ROLE IN THE USS FORRESTAL FIRE THAT LEFT 168 DEAD

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Date: Wednesday, 27-Feb-2008 23:01:46
Too bad the nahant primative didn't bother to click on the rebutal link on the bottom of the article.
It dispelled every smear directed at McCain.
I'm beginning to think nahant is a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL. :rotf:
Title: Re: DUmmies are still saying McCain was responsible for the Forrestal fire
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 12, 2012, 10:07:34 AM
wow

The whole thing started because Nuclear Unicorn got savaged for asking if Romney's lack of military service made McCain a better choice than Obama.