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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on May 06, 2012, 09:19:11 PM
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TheMightyFavog (12,537 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
So, how are the Freepers handling the Socialist victory in France...
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Are there calls to once again call French Fries "Freedom Fries?"
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I'll tell you how I'm handling it. I'm not giving a shit. I expect no less from a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys. They surrendered to the Germans, then they surrendered to the Islamofascist immigrants, now they're surrendering to a bunch of layabout Socialist moonbats. They'll be soon getting in line for a bailout like Greece, I suppose. **** 'em. At this point they deserve whatever they get.
TheKentuckian (15,297 posts)
8. Sad that when pressed even sensible people will stick to their religion and magical thinking
There is not nor has there ever been a capitalism that works for the vast majority of people because it is a system designed from the root to benefit the few at the expense of the many.
Technological advances and increasing efficiencies will make broadly beneficial capitalism even more unworkable as time marches on and our current lifestyle (and life) funding set up leaves more and more behind.
No asshole, capitalism does work for the vast majority of the people. Just because everyone is not getting rich doesn't mean they're not benefitting. Capitalism has raised more people up out of poverty and created a standard of living unmatched by any other economic system in history. But because not everyone is rich you want to label it "unfair" and tear it all down for something that enforces the same soul-killing mediocrity on everyone, and it's all because of class envy.
provis99 (12,839 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. capitalism is all about redistributing wealth from the poor to the rich.
Robin Hood in reverse; essentially no different than economic feudalism, despite the claims of capitalists.
Except that in capitalism, those of lesser means can create new wealth and mobility through work and innovation and entrepreneurship, and what you get from "the rich" in return for what wealth you spend on their goods and services belongs to you, not a commune who can take it away from you. Of course, you try to nullify that as much as possible with your confiscatory taxes.
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provis99 (12,839 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. capitalism is all about redistributing wealth from the poor to the rich.
Robin Hood in reverse; essentially no different than economic feudalism, despite the claims of capitalists
Really dummie? So what tax policy does capitalism advocate that actually takes money, thru tax policy and at the force of imprisonment or death, from the poor and give to the rich? Cite me some examples please. Hint: Bush tax cuts don't get it. For your general fund of knowledge, dummie, the Bush tax cuts, now the Obumbles tax cuts, gave everyone a tax break. At no time did the tax on the poor get raised. Prove me wrong.
I'm waiting dummie. And please don't give me this BS about SS, medicare, etc, and how the poor pay more in percentages of their income than the rich. The poor pay more in percentages of their income for everything. Know why? Cause they don't make that much. They are poor. Now how about we add in their free shit from the government as income? I ain't run the numbers but I suspect that their percentage would drop considerably.
So come on over here an edumacate me.
I am waiting.
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Not a Freeper, but I'm popping a big tub of popcorn and laughing my ass off as I watch the end of the Eurozone commence.
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If the DUmmies get their way, we'll look back on Obama's reign as a Golden Age when most people still had too much food, air conditioning in their homes, one-way television, leisure time, and at least some money to spend on things that aren't necessary just to stay alive.
We'll also fondly remember when life expectancy was in the 80's, instead of being limited to 4 years after retirement.
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The commies are just upset because capitalism hasn't worked for them. You see for it to work, you have to actually get off your ass and do something with yourself. Sitting in your mom's basement smoking crack while you wait for your entitlement check isn't going to do anything for you.
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Greese can pull themselves out of their current monetary crisis by just printing more money.
Right? Am I right?
Fire up them presses.
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:loser: As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly. (Probervbs 26: 11, KJV)
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So the socialists won an election in a eurotrash country.
This coming Tuesday, they're going to lose one in Wisconsin.
Then the next Tuesday, Socialist Steve will lose in Nebraska.
Wisconsin and Nebraska are both more civilized, wealthy, and important than any eurotrash country.
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The dumbest people in existence.
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So, how are the Freepers handling the Socialist victory in France...
They get what they deserve. That's the extent of my concern.
Are there calls to once again call French Fries "Freedom Fries?"
That had nothing to do with whether they were a socialist country or not you window licking turd.
It had everything to do with them bashing us and what we planned to do inthe immediate aftermath of 9/11.
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Why the hell would I care? Besides...they elect a socialist and then what? As if Greece isn't bad off already. The rest of the world isn't going to be able to bail them out much longer...especially since their enabler nations are going to be handing out more to their own people (or at least trying to). Europe, with Greece in the lead, is almost out of everybody else's money. Shit WILL hit the fan...it's already started to, the Greeks have become so used to having daddy government take care of them, when government no longer has the resources to do so, the whole country throws a collective temper tantrum until other countries come and bail them out. Except, unlike a toddler kicking and screaming in the aisle of a toy store, adults set things on fire and kill people. Some European countries are getting a clue and moving away from cradle to grave government parenthood. Those that aren't are too far gone, their people have become so dependent they don't have any idea how to do for themselves. Reality is going to be a harsh teacher.
Cindie
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....and the French socialist plan is to tax the rich at 75%.
Only under capitalism is the "poor" so rich that it has to be redistributed upward to the rich. Who knew the American poor had so much money.
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The DUmmies are all running around $kammer land with wet panties. They see this nonsense in France as the big turning point. The entire world is going socialist. It is a great victory for the poor and down trodden, the huddled masses. They have themselves worked up into quite a frenzy, they sure are going to be disappointed. Morons. :lmao:
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We knew the French were going to vote socialist before Sunday - there were two socialist candidates standing and no conservative.
There's a French ex-pat who comes to Mass at my parish, a few of us were talking about the election with him as he was about to go and vote in London. He said words to the effect of "I should be voting for Sarkozy because I'm conservative, but he's useless and so I'm going to vote Hollande because he'll piss Brussels off". Of course like many French conservatives, he lives outside France...
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Why the hell would I care? Besides...they elect a socialist and then what? As if Greece isn't bad off already. The rest of the world isn't going to be able to bail them out much longer...especially since their enabler nations are going to be handing out more to their own people (or at least trying to). Europe, with Greece in the lead, is almost out of everybody else's money. Shit WILL hit the fan...it's already started to, the Greeks have become so used to having daddy government take care of them, when government no longer has the resources to do so, the whole country throws a collective temper tantrum until other countries come and bail them out. Except, unlike a toddler kicking and screaming in the aisle of a toy store, adults set things on fire and kill people. Some European countries are getting a clue and moving away from cradle to grave government parenthood. Those that aren't are too far gone, their people have become so dependent they don't have any idea how to do for themselves. Reality is going to be a harsh teacher.
Cindie
They won't go to Cuba or North Korea, is there any chance we can get them to deport themselves to France?
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See, this is another example of how liberals do not have any idea how we really think. Here is a tip for the mentally challenged DUmmy, I don't give a shit what France decides to do as far as how they run their own damn country. I only care about how this one is handled.
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Does this mean they want Obama to run on an avowed sociailist label or are they going to still run around with their cute little "progressive" and "fair" euphemisms?
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DUmmies are getting all excited over Hollande's socialist label, but he's not Karl Marx.
http://www.city-journal.org/2012/eon0506gs.html "Hollande bears little resemblance to the socialist firebrands France embraced through the era of François Mitterrand, president from 1981 to 1995. His views are closer to the German Social Democrats or British Labor than to the obsolete Marxist tradition. He did not propose nationalizing industries and banks, the core of Mitterrand’s 1980s platform. In fact, Hollande hardly mentioned the necessity for public investment to rekindle economic growth. He only cautiously promised to increase the number of teachers (the Socialist Party’s core constituency), and except for promising to close one of France’s 50 nuclear plants—a symbolic gesture to Greens—he made no attacks on nuclear energy. Above all, in a complete rebuttal of the French Socialist tradition, Hollande promised to contain public expenses and balance the budget in compliance with European treaties.
Hollande’s victory appears to be less an endorsement of him than a referendum on Sarkozy. The new president remains a broadly unknown, untested politician with no clear agenda (sounds familiar). Based on Hollande’s campaign, French citizens understand only that he is no Sarkozy. It remains to be seen how he will govern and above all, how he will manage the looming sovereign-debt crisis."
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Man, this world must be ending because it's quickly going down the shithole. Germany has some neo-nazi party (media says) that went from .29% vote to over 6% this year. Isn't this the same setting that gave Hitler a foothold? economic depression and socialism?
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Taxing rich people at 75%? The simple thing all these socialists forget is that it takes only about an hour to pack. Rich people can leave at a moment's notice. Where did all the other-people's-money go? :bawl:
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Man, this world must be ending because it's quickly going down the shithole. Germany has some neo-nazi party (media says) that went from .29% vote to over 6% this year. Isn't this the same setting that gave Hitler a foothold? economic depression and socialism?
That was Greece, not Germany, in recent elections; they got 19 seats in the Greek parliament, 19 more than they had before.
If one's looking for portents and omens, this is one of them.
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Taxing rich people at 75%? The simple thing all these socialists forget is that it takes only about an hour to pack. Rich people can leave at a moment's notice. Where did all the other-people's-money go? :bawl:
Yup.
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DUmmies are getting all excited over Hollande's socialist label, but he's not Karl Marx.
The primitives have no idea.
By the end of May--wanna bet?--the primitives are going to bitch about him.
Hollande’s victory appears to be less an endorsement of him than a referendum on Sarkozy.
Uh huh.
That's it.
That's the only indication, the only clue, of what's probably going to happen here in November.
It's not ideological; it's anti-incumbents.
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This Freeper? LMFAO and loving it!
This means that Germany will leave the eu and the euro. When Germany leaves that is the end of the eu and euro. I could not be happier!!
Komrades europe is is heading towards a glorious future, GLORIOUS!!!!
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No asshole, capitalism does work for the vast majority of the people. Just because everyone is not getting rich doesn't mean they're not benefitting. Capitalism has raised more people up out of poverty and created a standard of living unmatched by any other economic system in history. But because not everyone is rich you want to label it "unfair" and tear it all down for something that enforces the same soul-killing mediocrity on everyone, and it's all because of class envy.
The funny thing is they never see socialism as unfair when there are even less 'rich' people there then under a capitalistic system. In fact, there's a lot less 'middle class' too under socialism.
If that's their gauge for success then socialism is a miserable failure.
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Why the hell would I care? Besides...they elect a socialist and then what? As if Greece isn't bad off already. The rest of the world isn't going to be able to bail them out much longer...especially since their enabler nations are going to be handing out more to their own people (or at least trying to). Europe, with Greece in the lead, is almost out of everybody else's money. Shit WILL hit the fan...it's already started to, the Greeks have become so used to having daddy government take care of them, when government no longer has the resources to do so, the whole country throws a collective temper tantrum until other countries come and bail them out. Except, unlike a toddler kicking and screaming in the aisle of a toy store, adults set things on fire and kill people. Some European countries are getting a clue and moving away from cradle to grave government parenthood. Those that aren't are too far gone, their people have become so dependent they don't have any idea how to do for themselves. Reality is going to be a harsh teacher.
Cindie
Yes, but they'll start by trying to raid their neighboring countries that are not that far gone yet. This type of thing is the tempest in the pot that will likely start another world war. And for what? The lazy will end up 6 feet under in a mass grave with a lot of decent innocent people. The saddest thing about human history is the further you get away from that last 'hard reality' lesson the more humanity needs another to remind them. :thatsright:
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Taxing rich people at 75%? The simple thing all these socialists forget is that it takes only about an hour to pack. Rich people can leave at a moment's notice. Where did all the other-people's-money go? :bawl:
The number of frogs paying 75% will be roughly equal to the number of Americans who paid the 91% rate back in the 50s, i.e., near zero.
Very few wealthy people got that way by being stupid.
If they're stupid, someone will take their money long before the government gets around to it.
Not too many people will actually emigrate, but the DUmpmonkeys will learn there's a huge difference between "assets", "income", "taxable income", and "wealth".
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...Turning point... Suuuuuuure..
More like the turning point that results in the end of the EU. Germany can't afford to bail out anyone else's stupid economic policy. They will walk and let their neighbors collapse, And become a regional superpower because of it.
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I'm no FReeper - But I find the pending impoision of the EU to be hysterical. Or I would if the flow on effects from their greed , ineptitude , arrogance and ignorance were contained to the EUrinal.
BTW - F*** the frogs. Those stinking , smug , limp wristed vermin deserve everything that is coming their way.
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They get what they deserve. They elect some DU wannabe then they pay the price with heavy taxes and going broke at the same time supporting lazy ****s that feed off the system.
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Why the hell would I care? Besides...they elect a socialist and then what? As if Greece isn't bad off already. The rest of the world isn't going to be able to bail them out much longer...especially since their enabler nations are going to be handing out more to their own people (or at least trying to). Europe, with Greece in the lead, is almost out of everybody else's money. Shit WILL hit the fan...it's already started to, the Greeks have become so used to having daddy government take care of them, when government no longer has the resources to do so, the whole country throws a collective temper tantrum until other countries come and bail them out. Except, unlike a toddler kicking and screaming in the aisle of a toy store, adults set things on fire and kill people. Some European countries are getting a clue and moving away from cradle to grave government parenthood. Those that aren't are too far gone, their people have become so dependent they don't have any idea how to do for themselves. Reality is going to be a harsh teacher.
Cindie
Not to mention places like France are actually payin' for the terrorism that happens in their countries. Hell, ya can put a Al Queda cell in country and have the damn gubmint take care of them until they're ready to kill the very people supplying your welfare!
There are neighborhoods the French Police won't even set foot in because of the violence and Sharia Law bein' enforced on the population.
Sure is my idea of a socialist paradise! For cripes sake these people are DUmber than a sack 'o hammers!
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Robin Hood did NOT rob from the rich, he took back the tax the corrupt government took and gave it back to the people.
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This Freeper? LMFAO and loving it!
This means that Germany will leave the eu and the euro. When Germany leaves that is the end of the eu and euro. I could not be happier!!
Komrades europe is is heading towards a glorious future, GLORIOUS!!!!
Yep
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When Germany leaves that is the end of the eu and euro.
Well, the EU is good for one thing.
Last time I was over there, I was in Cologne.
I drove from there to Brussels and then down to Paris, and crossing the international borders was so easy I felt like the Wehrmacht.
Going into Canada, they make you feel like a criminal sometimes, because some Canucks are so jealous of Americans, but in Europe you don't even slow the car.
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Well, the EU is good for one thing.
Last time I was over there, I was in Cologne.
I drove from there to Brussels and then down to Paris, and crossing the international borders was so easy I felt like the Wehrmacht.
Going into Canada, they make you feel like a criminal sometimes, because some Canucks are so jealous of Americans, but in Europe you don't even slow the car.
Oh, but it was always rather more fun to get those stamps inside one's passport.
Once when I crossed over (during the middle of the night) from France into Italy, the Italians looked me over and waved me through, without stamping my passport. I got bent out of shape because I wanted an Italian visa, and stood my ground, demanding they stamp my passport.
The three guys fumbled around for a while, looking for something, but finally had to tell me they couldn't stamp it, because they didn't have a stamp.
But I at least got one of them to hand-write me a visa, because damn it, I wanted a souvenir of Italy.
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Oh, but it was always rather more fun to get those stamps inside one's passport.
Once when I crossed over (during the middle of the night) from France into Italy, the Italians looked me over and waved me through, without stamping my passport. I got bent out of shape because I wanted an Italian visa, and stood my ground, demanding they stamp my passport.
The three guys fumbled around for a while, looking for something, but finally had to tell me they couldn't stamp it, because they didn't have a stamp.
But I at least got one of them to hand-write me a visa, because damn it, I wanted a souvenir of Italy.
There's that great Italian work ethic. That's why they make such reliable cars. :lmao:
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So, how are the Freepers handling the Socialist victory in France...
I don't know yet. Is this the day the world is supposed to change.....again?
Today, I think I'll sit in the shade and watch for cracks in the dirt in my garden. The seeds shouldn't come up until Thursday or Friday at the earliest but I got nothing else to do....I'm easily entertained... :-)
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I remember back in the early 1990s before I had access to the Internets and had to read things in physical, three dimensional periodicals, I remember all this hand wringing about how the EU and was going to eat the US's lunch and how the Euro would be this big threat to the dollar. I wasn't so sure.
Now, some twenty years on, even with an America-hating Marxist at the helm, doing his absolute best, the US still bests Europe and this whole EU fad may be going the way of the USFL. And they did it to themselves!