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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Vagabond on May 06, 2012, 09:08:13 PM
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Avengers is a fun movie. I enjoyed watching it with my five year old son. That means most of the DUmp viscerally hates it.
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MadHound (30,796 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail IgnoreSun May 6, 2012, 04:14 PM
A sad statement on American culture
The new Avengers movie broke the record for initial weekend sales.
Look, I love comic books as much as the next person. I collected them throughout my childhood, teens, and twenties. My comic book collection ultimately allowed me to make a huge down payment on my first house. And yes, I collected the Avengers(and even had an Avengers #1 in pristine condition).
But still, a movie based on a comic book? Hardly high brow art.
Perhaps that is the secret, the movie appealed to the lowest common denominator in our society. And that is a shame.
I watched some of the comic book based movies. None were great, some were middling, a few were downright horrible. Overall, I don't think they have a track record that warrants a record breaking box office on this new release. I know that when and if I watch the Avengers, it will be on DVD, at home, preferably rented out from the one buck selection.
I know, I know, I'm sounding like an old, crotchety man. But really, is this what movies are degenerating into, refried comic books put on the big screen? I certainly hope not.
Shakespeare was not high brow. Don Quixote, De La Mancha was basically a comic book. They are both considered high brow these days. That ought to make a crotchety old man at least wonder.
Liberal_in_LA (23,558 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. I've only seen a few of these 'comic book' movies - one of the batman, and one or 2 of the
xmen. wasn't particularly impressed.
You considered and inconvenient truth to be impressive, I bet. Nothing but Al Gore's mug on the screen as lie after distortion was being sold as God's truth.
MadHound (30,796 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. Let's take a look at the French
Their top selling films are comedies, dramas, sci-fi, action, not a single comic book adaptation among them. Not high brow stuff, but rather middle brow, so to speak.
Comic books, lowest common denominator. A sad statement.
They still think Jerry Lewis is funny. It's hard to get more low-brow than that, even standing in a ditch.
JonLP24 (12,541 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. It did well in France
While not quite reaching all-time levels, the movie also had very strong starts in South Korea ($12.9 million), France ($12.7 million), Italy ($10.4 million), and Spain ($7.3 million). Oddly, it only opened to $6.7 million in Germany, though looking at past Avengers movie grosses it doesn't appear the Germans are as fond of the team as the rest of the world.
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3431
Using Germany would probably be a better look but the film is selling far more in the rest of the world than North America so you could say it is sad state of World culture.
Wet Blanket getting in the way of a good hate America fest.
spanone (63,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. america is hardly highbrow
in my experiences
Compared to what? You think the English sit around in suits sipping tea and discussing the finer points of impressionistic art?
Egalitarian Thug (744 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
32. Two things. One, the film industry has not yet come to grips with technology and is
wildly thrashing about in an attempt to figure out a way of continuing to extract obscene profits from their craft, and so far, Big FX Extravaganza's are the only way they've found.
Two, H.L. Mencken identified the basis for their business model about a century ago. "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
He also said, "Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good." DUmmies are exemplary samples of that statement.
To be fair, more DUmmies are defending it than are using a movie as a vehicle to slam America. It says a lot about a culture and who their mythological (comic book) heroes are. Mine has almost always been Batman and Spiderman.
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Wait until they figure out Robert Downey Jr. is a conservative. (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/05/01/Robert-Downey-Jr-Conservative)Then they will really hate the movie.
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What the frick does it matter that it's adapted from a comic book? It's not like they just blew up frames from the book and put them on the screen. You're still employing actors to play the roles, using the sets and cinematography and musical scores that movies derived from other sources do, and creating an imaginitive world wherein you suspend disbelief for a couple of hours same as any other movie. It may not be artsy-fartsy but it's certainly no worse than any other escapist genre.
Look at movies adapted from novels. They never, ever do the art contained in the book justice. How mamny times have you ever read a book first, then went to see the movie, and felt let down? It's not possible to cram all that imagery, plot development and character development into a something as short as a movie. So what happens? They reduce the novel into a comic book version of the original and that's what ends up on the screen. How are taking stories and characters directly from comic books and enhancing them to make an interesting movie any worse?
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The DUmmies don't get it. Fantasy escapism movies always do good when the economy is in the crapper and people are worried about what's going on. They only want the dramatic serious shit when their own lives are going great and they can feel sorry for the screen characters. Right now people don't want serious movies to remind them how much Obama has screwed the country.
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spanone (63,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. america is hardly highbrow
in my experiences
:bird:
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Some people (read normal people) just want an escape every once in awhile and to not think of starving people in Africa or the state of the economy at home. You people are one huge wet blanket.
Oh...and I would be Robert Downey Jr.'s baby momma in a heartbeat.
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Perhaps that is the secret, the movie appealed to the lowest common denominator in our society. And that is a shame.
No it didn't, DUmbass. You and your ilk didn't go see it.
Seriously, you guys make it too easy. A blind man could hit the pitch you throw. I just did. Out of the park.
Wait until they figure out Robert Downey Jr. is a conservative. Then they will really hate the movie.
That's freaking awesome. Iron Man...all the way!
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Some people (read normal people) just want an escape every once in awhile and to not think of starving people in Africa or the state of the economy at home. You people are one huge wet blanket.
Oh...and I would be Robert Downey Jr.'s baby momma in a heartbeat.
Downey is so adorable, from Wikipedia:
Downey has indicated that his time in prison changed his political point of view somewhat, saying: "I have a really interesting political point of view, and it's not always something I say too loud at dinner tables here, but you can't go from a $2,000-a-night suite at La Mirage to a penitentiary and really understand it and come out a liberal. You can't. I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone else, but it was very, very, very educational for me and has informed my proclivities and politics ever since.
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spanone (63,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. america is hardly highbrow
in my experiences
Hey, France just went back to marxism. Perhaps you should go there, and GTFO this country. If you need cash assistance jut sign up here and ask for it. We'll take up a collection and make sure you get there, but the catch is that you can never return.
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And I will add that I'm glad at least the movies with Captain America recently have been the conservative, pro US Cap, and not the crap leftwing slant the writers of Marvel have been infected with. The liberal version of Cap hated the US, hated the Tea Party, and the Red Skull was no longer a NAZI, but an American capitalist.
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Wait until they figure out Robert Downey Jr. is a conservative. (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/05/01/Robert-Downey-Jr-Conservative)Then they will really hate the movie.
LIBERAL REASONS TO HATE "THE AVENGERS"
Tony Stark is a 1%er...and lives the life...and he dissed the Senate
Steve Rogers believes the US is the greatest nation ever.
Thor ackowledges religion (particulrly the mythology favored by uber-Christians JRR Tolkien and C S Lewis)
Black Widow is a former Soviet agent that left the KGB for higher ideals
Bruce Banner proves science doesn't have all the answers
Nick Fury is black but is never depicted as using an EBT card
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Avengers is a fun movie. I enjoyed watching it with my five year old son. That means most of the DUmp viscerally hates it.
Cool, I've got a rare day off today and we are going to see this movie in three hours-looking forward to it.
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spanone (63,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. america is hardly highbrow
in my experiences
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002062639/4443117388_obama_snob_xlarge.jpeg) SNOB!
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spanone (63,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. america is hardly highbrow
in my experiences
It wouldn't matter. You DUmmies would still find something to cry about.
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MadHound (30,796 posts)
A sad statement on American culture
The new Avengers movie broke the record for initial weekend sales.
But still, a movie based on a comic book? Hardly high brow art.
Perhaps that is the secret, the movie appealed to the lowest common denominator in our society. And that is a shame.
MadHound (30,796 posts)
6. Let's take a look at the French
Their top selling films are comedies, dramas, sci-fi, action, not a single comic book adaptation among them. Not high brow stuff, but rather middle brow, so to speak.
Comic books, lowest common denominator. A sad statement.
spanone (63,538 posts)
22. america is hardly highbrow
in my experiences
Egalitarian Thug (744 posts)
32.
Two, H.L. Mencken identified the basis for their business model about a century ago. "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
A movie that doesn't spend two hours running down the US, shows heroic deeds by those that love the country and their fellow man, doesn't fit some sniveling "French" model of movie revenue generation, and the DUmmies whine about it being low brow art...
Cry me a river, you sniveling bitches.
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A movie about two butt-****ing cowboys is the greatest cultural expression imaginable, however.
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I went to the midnight premiere of 'The Avengers.' I freaking loved it! It was literally everything I had hoped it would be and more, and well worth the four years I had been awaiting it. Easily one of the best movies I've seen this year, if not THE best.
Of course, considering it is a good, fun movie, the DUmmies hate it.
However, I think it goes a bit deeper than that, in their dope- addled minds. Let's look at some of the Avengers:
1. Iron Man. I'd imagine the DUmmies hated him from his first movie. In that one, the corporate CEO/ weapons contractor Tony Stark is a hero with US soldiers/ military personnel also shown as good guys, and Muslim terrorists were villains (While simultaneouly portraying some Arabic characters as good guys, ensuring that no accusations of racism could be leveled against the filmmakers). If the DUmmies were writing that movie, the roles/ portrayals would be reversed. Then, of course, in 'Iron Man 2,' Tony Stark stands up to and amusingly humiliates liberal politicians, and fights a villain who was a Soviet leftover sporting hammer and sickle tattoos (Not to mention a funny cameo appearance from Bill O'Reilly). Together, these explain the DUmmies' hatred of Iron Man.
2. Thor. His movie was all about how good leaders and heroes alike need to be people who can demonstrate humility, wisdom and self- sacrifice for the good of all, qualities Thor gains over the course of the film. DUmmies hate those qualities, hence why they voted for and continue to support a president who is completely devoid of those qualities.
3. Captain America. Where to begin? Obviously, he is a hero who supports America and defends American values. DUmmies hate America, as seen in this thread. Like 'Iron Man,' Cap's first film portrayed the US military as good guys and showed his eagerness to join them, something the DUmmies would never support. Also, Cap is a Christian, as shown in the comics and by a faith- affirming comment he makes early on in 'The Avengers,' a big no- no for DUmmies. Out of all the Avengers, the DUmmies probably hate Captain America most.
4. Black Widow. A strong, intelligent, capable and beautiful woman, of the sort that liberal men (An oxymoron, I know) could never get with, and liberal women could never be (Considering most of them are either skeletally- thin drug addicts, or repulsively- obese sows). Also, she never (At least from what I remember) launches into long- winded speeches about how hard it is to be a woman in a man's world and how feminism is the only way to go, which is what liberals expect all female heroes to do.
I thnk that about explains it.
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I went to the midnight premiere of 'The Avengers.' I freaking loved it! It was literally everything I had hoped it would be and more, and well worth the four years I had been awaiting it. Easily one of the best movies I've seen this year, if not THE best.
Of course, considering it is a good, fun movie, the DUmmies hate it.
However, I think it goes a bit deeper than that, in their dope- addled minds. Let's look at some of the Avengers:
1. Iron Man. I'd imagine the DUmmies hated him from his first movie. In that one, the corporate CEO/ weapons contractor Tony Stark is a hero with US soldiers/ military personnel also shown as good guys, and Muslim terrorists were villains (While simultaneouly portraying some Arabic characters as good guys, ensuring that no accusations of racism could be leveled against the filmmakers). If the DUmmies were writing that movie, the roles/ portrayals would be reversed. Then, of course, in 'Iron Man 2,' Tony Stark stands up to and amusingly humiliates liberal politicians, and fights a villain who was a Soviet leftover sporting hammer and sickle tattoos (Not to mention a funny cameo appearance from Bill O'Reilly). Together, these explain the DUmmies' hatred of Iron Man.
2. Thor. His movie was all about how good leaders and heroes alike need to be people who can demonstrate humility, wisdom and self- sacrifice for the good of all, qualities Thor gains over the course of the film. DUmmies hate those qualities, hence why they voted for and continue to support a president who is completely devoid of those qualities.
3. Captain America. Where to begin? Obviously, he is a hero who supports America and defends American values. DUmmies hate America, as seen in this thread. Like 'Iron Man,' Cap's first film portrayed the US military as good guys and showed his eagerness to join them, something the DUmmies would never support. Also, Cap is a Christian, as shown in the comics and by a faith- affirming comment he makes early on in 'The Avengers,' a big no- no for DUmmies. Out of all the Avengers, the DUmmies probably hate Captain America most.
4. Black Widow. A strong, intelligent, capable and beautiful woman, of the sort that liberal men (An oxymoron, I know) could never get with, and liberal women could never be (Considering most of them are either skeletally- thin drug addicts, or repulsively- obese sows). Also, she never (At least from what I remember) launches into long- winded speeches about how hard it is to be a woman in a man's world and how feminism is the only way to go, which is what liberals expect all female heroes to do.
I thnk that about explains it.
Wow! very good info
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Does the Hulk have a significant role in this film? I'm a huge Hulk fan.
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Does the Hulk have a significant role in this film? I'm a huge Hulk fan.
Yeah, he plays a pretty important role (And Mark Ruffalo does good job playing his alter ego Bruce Banner), and there is an awesome scene when he confronts Loki in the film's climax.
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Yeah, he plays a pretty important role (And Mark Ruffalo does good job playing his alter ego Bruce Banner), and there is an awesome scene when he confronts Loki in the film's climax.
Spoiler alert:
"Puny God! "
""Target Engaged!.........Target Angry! Target Angry!"
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Yeah, he plays a pretty important role (And Mark Ruffalo does good job playing his alter ego Bruce Banner), and there is an awesome scene when he confronts Loki in the film's climax.
Oh good, thanks!
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The DUmmies don't get it. Fantasy escapism movies always do good when the economy is in the crapper and people are worried about what's going on. They only want the dramatic serious shit when their own lives are going great and they can feel sorry for the screen characters. Right now people don't want serious movies to remind them how much Obama has screwed the country.
Exactly. People want to escape this screwed up economy. I know Star Wars did well in part because of that in the late 1970s to early 1980s, when the economy was in a bad state.
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The DUmmies don't get it. Fantasy escapism movies always do good when the economy is in the crapper and people are worried about what's going on. They only want the dramatic serious shit when their own lives are going great and they can feel sorry for the screen characters. Right now people don't want serious movies to remind them how much Obama has screwed the country.
No kiddin'! Look how the gangster movies did durin' the Great Depression! We didn't have TV, and radio was full of detectives and gangsters fightin' it out. Either that or the radio's version of Alfred Hitchcock and Edgar Alan Poe. How is it any different than the comic book fantasies?
These people are morons! It's fiction ya ****in' idiots!
BTW, I still listen to old time radio. It's a helluva lot better than watchin' Comedy Central, DUmmies TV station for "political" fact!
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Yeah, he plays a pretty important role (And Mark Ruffalo does good job playing his alter ego Bruce Banner), and there is an awesome scene when he confronts Loki in the film's climax.
Thumbs up for the scene that you're talking about.
And how about that scene with Harry Dean Stanton?
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What, not one shout out for Hawkeye, a guy with no superpowers (like the Widow) but who pretty much backs down from nothin' and is just as much a "man without fear" as Daredevil? If Clint Barton is being played faithfully to how I remember him in the comic books (and it's been years since I've read comic books, but I am following the Avengers animated series), then he is a totally non-PC guy, pretty much as non-PC as they come. I guess that'd be plenty reason enough for the DUmmies to hate him.
I haven't read all their remarks, but I can guess that they're calling it "racist" because Black Panther hasn't been included. Then again, Ant Man/Giant Man and Wasp aren't in it either, and they were on the original team; Black Widow wasn't on the original team, and Cap didn't join until issue #4, but I can't see doing the Avengers without Captain America.
I am soooooo looking forward to seeing this. I'll be waiting a couple of weeks until the crowds die down a little. Man, only DUmmies could see something like this and take no pleasure in it. How anhedonic can you get?
I'd have preferred Ultron as the main villain, though. That could have gotten seriously dark, though, maybe too dark for what they were aiming for.
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Does the Hulk have a significant role in this film? I'm a huge Hulk fan.
"Significant" would be an understatement. You'll be pleased. :-)
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"Significant" would be an understatement. You'll be pleased. :-)
Awwwww, thank you sweetie and a hi5 for you! :-)
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Exactly. People want to escape this screwed up economy. I know Star Wars did well in part because of that in the late 1970s to early 1980s, when the economy was in a bad state.
"Independence Day" during the Klintoon years.
Some people in the theater actually cheered when the aliens blew up the White House.
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Thumbs up for the scene that you're talking about.
And how about that scene with Harry Dean Stanton?
Harry Dean Stanton is still alive? What is he now, about 90.
The last movie I saw him in was "Down Periscope", with Kelsey Grammer, Rob Schneider, and Lauren Holly.
He was also in "Kelly's Heroes" and "Alien". Never seen him as a headliner, he always played a "behind the scenes" guy.
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Just make sure to stay until the very end of the movie.
No, past that part. I mean the very end.
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What, not one shout out for Hawkeye, a guy with no superpowers (like the Widow) but who pretty much backs down from nothin' and is just as much a "man without fear" as Daredevil? If Clint Barton is being played faithfully to how I remember him in the comic books (and it's been years since I've read comic books, but I am following the Avengers animated series), then he is a totally non-PC guy, pretty much as non-PC as they come. I guess that'd be plenty reason enough for the DUmmies to hate him.
I haven't read all their remarks, but I can guess that they're calling it "racist" because Black Panther hasn't been included. Then again, Ant Man/Giant Man and Wasp aren't in it either, and they were on the original team; Black Widow wasn't on the original team, and Cap didn't join until issue #4, but I can't see doing the Avengers without Captain America.
I'd have preferred Ultron as the main villain, though. That could have gotten seriously dark, though, maybe too dark for what they were aiming for.
They do some very good stuff with Hawkeye, too. That's part of the reason why I liked 'Avengers' so much: With such a big cast, you'd assume some characters would take up all the spotlight (i.e. Iron Man) and other, less well known characters would barely be used (i.e. Hawkeye). Not the case with this movie. All the major members of the team are given good amounts of screen time and character development, and for a guy with no powers other than being really good with a compound bow, they're able to have Hawkeye really kick some butt in the climax.
For how the DUmmies could hate him too, perhaps the fact that he worked as an agent for SHIELD in the movie, making him (In their minds, anyway) similar to an FBI agent, or even (GASP) a cop!
For the "Racist" thing, Nick Fury is black in the movie, even though in the comics only one version/ incarnation of him has been black.
For Ant Man/ Giant Man, there was a rumor a while back that he would get his own movie and be in 'Avengers,' but nothing came of it.
Ultron could make a good villain, and if you stay a few minutes into the closing credits, they reveal a villain who is definitely going be showing up in the movies some time soon, maybe in 'Iron Man 3' or maybe when they inevitably make 'Avengers 2.'
btw, my newspaper's movie critic gave 'Avengers' a grade of A-. So suck it, DUmmies.
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But still, a movie based on a comic book? Hardly high brow art.
And yet you DUmmies absolutely love and want to emulate THIS comic book:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/V_for_vendettax.jpg)
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They do some very good stuff with Hawkeye, too. That's part of the reason why I liked 'Avengers' so much: With such a big cast, you'd assume some characters would take up all the spotlight (i.e. Iron Man) and other, less well known characters would barely be used (i.e. Hawkeye). Not the case with this movie. All the major members of the team are given good amounts of screen time and character development, and for a guy with no powers other than being really good with a compound bow, they're able to have Hawkeye really kick some butt in the climax.
For how the DUmmies could hate him too, perhaps the fact that he worked as an agent for SHIELD in the movie, making him (In their minds, anyway) similar to an FBI agent, or even (GASP) a cop!
For the "Racist" thing, Nick Fury is black in the movie, even though in the comics only one version/ incarnation of him has been black.
For Ant Man/ Giant Man, there was a rumor a while back that he would get his own movie and be in 'Avengers,' but nothing came of it.
Ultron could make a good villain, and if you stay a few minutes into the closing credits, they reveal a villain who is definitely going be showing up in the movies some time soon, maybe in 'Iron Man 3' or maybe when they inevitably make 'Avengers 2.'
btw, my newspaper's movie critic gave 'Avengers' a grade of A-. So suck it, DUmmies.
Let me put on my comic book nerd hat for a second (I still have several from my youth, and some are even worth considerable money now)...
Thanos is the ultimate bad ass mofo in the Marvel Universe. He is my all time favorite villain, and the Infinity Gauntlet mini series (as well as its prequel, the 2 issue "Thanos Quest") is by far my favorite story arc ever. Jim Starlin, Ron Marz, Ron Lim, such a golden age for me personally. That being said, Thanos is far too powerful for Iron Man to take on alone. It would have to be the entire team of Avengers. Hell, the Avengers would need to call in the Fantastic Four, the X-men, Spidey, Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, etc, and it still wouldn't be enough. Thanos beats the crap out of cosmic god-like beings on a regular basis. Several times he has achieved basically ultimate power only to lose it because deep down inside he isn't really as evil as he wants to be.
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Let me put on my comic book nerd hat for a second (I still have several from my youth, and some are even worth considerable money now)...
Thanos is the ultimate bad ass mofo in the Marvel Universe. He is my all time favorite villain, and the Infinity Gauntlet mini series (as well as its prequel, the 2 issue "Thanos Quest") is by far my favorite story arc ever. Jim Starlin, Ron Marz, Ron Lim, such a golden age for me personally. That being said, Thanos is far too powerful for Iron Man to take on alone. It would have to be the entire team of Avengers. Hell, the Avengers would need to call in the Fantastic Four, the X-men, Spidey, Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, etc, and it still wouldn't be enough. Thanos beats the crap out of cosmic god-like beings on a regular basis. Several times he has achieved basically ultimate power only to lose it because deep down inside he isn't really as evil as he wants to be.
Once upon a time there was a DC/Marvel crossover where the Teen Titans teamed-up with the X-men to take on Darkseid who had resurrected Dark Phoenix.
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Let me put on my comic book nerd hat for a second (I still have several from my youth, and some are even worth considerable money now)...
Thanos is the ultimate bad ass mofo in the Marvel Universe. He is my all time favorite villain, and the Infinity Gauntlet mini series (as well as its prequel, the 2 issue "Thanos Quest") is by far my favorite story arc ever. Jim Starlin, Ron Marz, Ron Lim, such a golden age for me personally. That being said, Thanos is far too powerful for Iron Man to take on alone. It would have to be the entire team of Avengers. Hell, the Avengers would need to call in the Fantastic Four, the X-men, Spidey, Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, etc, and it still wouldn't be enough. Thanos beats the crap out of cosmic god-like beings on a regular basis. Several times he has achieved basically ultimate power only to lose it because deep down inside he isn't really as evil as he wants to be.
Yep, Thanos is unquestionably top dog in Marvel in villainhood and power, and my fave as well, although as with you I dipped in to comic book reading after years of absence just for the Thanos Quest and the Infinity Gauntlet. I believe after that, he acquired even GREATER power than the Gauntlet in a short series called "The End". I've done some online reading about some of what has happened in the Marvel Universe since then, and although he doesn't have that kind of power right now, I know he freaking blasted freaking GALACTUS halfway across a planet some time in the Annihilation Wave, I think. I didn't read that, but I know of it. When you start out as an offshoot of the Eternals (Titanians), but with a Deviant streak, and become incredibly powerful through psionics. mysticism, and who knows what else,, and then die and have Mistress Death bring you back with 10x the power, and you're still accumulating power even after THAT, you are one badass dude. Plus, when it comes to strategy, he makes Dr. Doom look like street muscle.
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/104470/2038514-g1.jpeg)
I remember one time after he'd acquired the Gauntlet he outwitted Mephisto. This was such a cool cover:
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/30380-3857-33791-1-silver-surfer_super.jpg)
But Thanos might be a weeee bit heavy for non-geeks to deal with; plus, as you said, he's far too much for just the Avengers to take down. After Thanos, Annihilus and Ultron have always been my picks. But yes, Thanos is just so COOL!
I don't know if this is fan art or with or without the Gauntlet, but really Thanos has enough power to do this to the Avengers without it; he did what he did to Galactus up top post-loss-of-Gauntlet (again, I'm pretty sure it was duting the Annihilation Wave):
(http://georux.altervista.org/gallery/albums/thanos/thanos11.jpg)
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But Thanos might be a weeee bit heavy for non-geeks to deal with; plus, as you said, he's far too much for just the Avengers to take down. After Thanos, Annihilus and Ultron have always been my picks. But yes, Thanos is just so COOL!
Yeah, until well after the movie, I didn't know who that was at the end, and if I didn't know it was a Marvel movie, I might have thought it was Darkseid or something. In fact, I'd say about 15% of the people in that theater (and it was packed) even had an idea who that was. A few even thought it might have been Red Skull since he was sent into space at the end of Captain America.
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Yep, Thanos is unquestionably top dog in Marvel in villainhood and power, and my fave as well, although as with you I dipped in to comic book reading after years of absence just for the Thanos Quest and the Infinity Gauntlet. I believe after that, he acquired even GREATER power than the Gauntlet in a short series called "The End". I've done some online reading about some of what has happened in the Marvel Universe since then, and although he doesn't have that kind of power right now, I know he freaking blasted freaking GALACTUS halfway across a planet some time in the Annihilation Wave, I think. I didn't read that, but I know of it. When you start out as an offshoot of the Eternals (Titanians), but with a Deviant streak, and become incredibly powerful through psionics. mysticism, and who knows what else,, and then die and have Mistress Death bring you back with 10x the power, and you're still accumulating power even after THAT, you are one badass dude. Plus, when it comes to strategy, he makes Dr. Doom look like street muscle.
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/104470/2038514-g1.jpeg)
I remember one time after he'd acquired the Gauntlet he outwitted Mephisto. This was such a cool cover:
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/30380-3857-33791-1-silver-surfer_super.jpg)
But Thanos might be a weeee bit heavy for non-geeks to deal with; plus, as you said, he's far too much for just the Avengers to take down. After Thanos, Annihilus and Ultron have always been my picks. But yes, Thanos is just so COOL!
I don't know if this is fan art or with or without the Gauntlet, but really Thanos has enough power to do this to the Avengers without it; he did what he did to Galactus up top post-loss-of-Gauntlet (again, I'm pretty sure it was duting the Annihilation Wave):
(http://georux.altervista.org/gallery/albums/thanos/thanos11.jpg)
Awesome scans. Yeah, after the Gauntlet he did achieve even greater power in "The End" where he wiped out the entire multiverse except for himself and Adam Warlock. Adam and Thanos discuss that the Marvel Multiverse was going to end anyway regardless of Thanos because flaws in reality developed due to too many resurrections of the previously dead disturbing the cosmic balance. Thanos sacrifices himself (temporarily) and the power of the Heart of the Infinite to recreate everything as it was without the flaw. Pretty cosmic stuff.
I have not read Annihilation Wave, but I did see some scans and Thanos, without the assistance of Cosmic Cubes, Infinity Gauntlet, or Heart of the infinite, defeats the then current incarnation of the Beyonder. An amazing feat. He stood toe to toe with Odin without power ups as well while even the Silver Surfer was blown away by Odin's power. I also recall some issues of Silver Surfer back in the late 90s where an insane Thor with the power gem is beating the crap out of guys like the Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, and either Hulk or Drax the Destroyer. They have to call in Thanos who is the only one they know that can subdue an enraged, insane Thor.
I gotta do some rereading. Time to dig out the old collection again.
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Spoiler alert--don't look below if you don't wanna know--villain at end of film:
IT IS THANOS! AWESOME!
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Libs love Michael Moore movies.
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I love these movies!!!! I will wait until it comes out in Netflix or Redbox!!!
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btw, 'Avengers' has already made $1 billion in the box office. So, once again, suck it DUmmies!
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We saw the Avengers and it was awesome! loved loved loved Robert Downey Jr. even more then the Hulk and I love the Hulk. The only thing though, we had crappy seats in the theater so we left a few minutes early, can someone tell me what Danglars means when he mentions Thanos? which character was Thanos? and what was the spoiler? PM it to me if you don't want to post it here please.
ETA: no need to explain, just read a spoiler on it.
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22. america is hardly highbrow
in my experiences
Oh please! the last time I listened to "highbrow" people was when I went to see My Left Foot with Daniel Day Lewis, worst movie ever, it was a nightmare sitting through it. Give me Michael Meyers and Jason any day over highbrow crap!
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Oh please! the last time I listened to "highbrow" people was when I went to see My Left Foot with Daniel Day Lewis, worst movie ever, it was a nightmare sitting through it. Give me Michael Meyers and Jason any day over highbrow crap!
I'm reminds of an old song that John Conlee sang. I don't know the writer, but below is the lyrics and a video.
As the maid poured wine and we prepared to dine I know I was feeling out of place
At table as large big as a river barge and I love you written all on your face
I appreciate your hospitality but I wish that we would go
Let me drive us to McDonald’s and I’ll talk to you concerning something you should really know
I’m just a common man drive a common van
My dog ain’t got a no pedigree
If I have my say, gonna stay that way
Cause high-browed people lose their sanity
And a common man is what I’ll be
I’ll take a Chevrolet just any day so give your daddy back his Mercedes Benz
And there’s some common people that I hang out with
They’re my good time buddies they’re my friends
And I’d rather chug-a-lug a mug of Budweiser beer then sip a crystal glass of wine
So won’t you make your mind up to believe in me and leave this high living world behind?
I’m just a common man drive a common van
My dog ain’t got a no pedigree
If I have my say, gonna stay that way
Cause high-browed people lose their sanity
And a common man is what I’ll be
Yes I’m happy just being free
And I’m happy just being me
And I hop that you will see
I’m just a common man drive a common van
My dog ain’t got a no pedigree
If I have my say, gonna stay that way
Cause high-browed people lose their sanity
And a common man is what I’ll be
I’m just a common man drive a common van
My dog ain’t got a no pedigree
If I have my say, gonna stay that way
Cause high-browed people lose their sanity
And a common man is what I’ll be
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-N7aiNRG3o[/youtube]
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That's awesome Chuck!
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Some people (read normal people) just want an escape every once in awhile and to not think of starving people in Africa or the state of the economy at home. You people are one huge wet blanket.
Oh...and I would be Robert Downey Jr.'s baby momma in a heartbeat.
We must duel over him lol
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Went and saw it with the girlfriend tonight.
Got three words for you, DUmbasses: "America. **** yeah."
Why? Cause **** you, that's why.
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Another effect that The Avengers is having is shawarma sales are up because of the scene at the end of the credits.
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Another effect that The Avengers is having is shawarma sales are up because of the scene at the end of the credits.
Damn it, I want shawarma now. I know where I'll be going for lunch tomorrow.
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So I suppose when the first iconic comic book superhero comes out of the closet DUmmies will just say "ho hum, who cares" because comic books are the lowest form of entertainment.
Cindie
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So I suppose when the first iconic comic book superhero comes out of the closet DUmmies will just say "ho hum, who cares" because comic books are the lowest form of entertainment.
Cindie
I really hope that never happens....
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I really hope that never happens....
It's already been announced. (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/05/dcs-new-gay-character-will-be-major-iconic-and-apparently-male/) Speculation among comic afficiandos is that it will be Sazaam or Green Lantern. Supposedly they might even have a gay marriage. But Batwoman came out of the closet a long time ago. I didn't know that until the dust up about this male character.
Cindie
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It's already been announced. (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/05/dcs-new-gay-character-will-be-major-iconic-and-apparently-male/) Speculation among comic afficiandos is that it will be Sazaam or Green Lantern. Supposedly they might even have a gay marriage. But Batwoman came out of the closet a long time ago. I didn't know that until the dust up about this male character.
Cindie
I never would have guessed Sazaam ( they do not call him Captian Marvel any more for pain in the ass copywrite reasons ) but I have a feeling it will be Wonder Woman.
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Just saw it with my gorgeous gal yesterday. Enjoyed myself immensely (the movie was very good, too).
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The big T is an ambitions choice for a second villain. Thanos doesn't play small ball--puny things like world domination. He doesn't even fit the trope of omnicidal maniac, because he isn't a maniac (I don't consider him maniacal since he can actually accomplish what he wants, and anyway, Thanos is no preening godling like Loki.). Although they'll probably take the omnicide route for him.
I was wondering if the whole first movie won't be revealed to have been a feint by Thanos...somehow, without Loki's knowing, he manipulated Loki into meeting up with the Chitauri. The fact that the head Chitauri was kneeling to him directly means that Thanos had the Chitauri directly sewn up as servants while this was going on. I mean, it wasn't as if the head Chitauri was meeting him for the first time. He was making a report. Thanos would figure he'd win either way this goes--he wins by taking out potential enemies if Loki and the Chitauri had somehow won (after which he'd have probably killed Loki, and he could).
Or, if he "loses," as happened, he knows that much more about his enemies from a distance, has lost nothing more than some easily replaced pawns, and is still rid of Loki possibly making any kind of future nuisance of himself.
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^Sun Tzu ?