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Title: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: TVDOC on May 06, 2012, 12:19:54 PM
The person that actually first named the continents in the western hemisphere "America", what year, and how did he do it?

HINT:  It was NOT the explorer Amerigo Vespucci.......in all of his logs, diaries, and letters, Vespucci always referred to his finds in the western hemisphere as "Terra Nova, or Terra Incognita".

This person was a German cleric who never set foot on a ship, nor did he ever venture outside his (adopted) homeland, which was not Germany.

Bonus points for for the exact (Latin) phrase that identifies his accomplishment.......

doc
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: CG6468 on May 06, 2012, 01:38:44 PM
Matthias Ringmann.

ab Americo Inventore ...quasi Americi terram sive Americam
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: TVDOC on May 06, 2012, 01:51:32 PM
Matthias Ringmann.

ab Americo Inventore ...quasi Americi terram sive Americam

Unfortunately no on both counts.......

doc
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: Eupher on May 06, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
Martin Waldseemüller created a 12-panel map that first used the term "America" to show the continents of North and South America.

The full title of the 1507 map is:

 "Universalis cosmographia secunda Ptholemei traditionem et Americi Vespucci aliorum que lustrationes"
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: TVDOC on May 06, 2012, 03:52:35 PM
Martin Waldseemüller created a 12-panel map that first used the term "America" to show the continents of North and South America.

The full title of the 1507 map is:

 "Universalis cosmographia secunda Ptholemei traditionem et Americi Vespucci aliorum que lustrationes"

Bravo!!

500 points removed from your BS count!!  Translate the Latin and I'll put them back....... :-)

doc
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: TVDOC on May 06, 2012, 04:29:12 PM
As an interesting aside for readers, Waldseemüller supposedly only made fifty copies of this famous work, only one of which remains intact today, and it is on display in the Library of Congress.........over the years, rumors abound that at least one additional intact copy is also out there, either in the Vatican secret archives, or in the hands of a private collector.  

Proof of this has never been verified.

Were another copy to surface, curators at Southby's have estimated its value to be approximately 250 million dollars.

Universalis cosmographia set the scientific and navigational world on its ear in 1507, due to the fact that up until that time all navigational charts used by the great explorers of the time were all based on Ptolemy's maps which were in common use for over 1400 years, virtually unchanged.  

Those viewing it today will find it remarkably accurate, considering that it is largely based entirely upon speculation, and the very limited amount of information brought back by Columbus and Vespucci.

doc
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: Eupher on May 06, 2012, 05:01:54 PM
Bravo!!

500 points removed from your BS count!!  Translate the Latin and I'll put them back....... :-)

doc

Damn....instead of Latin, I took German....

Actually, I really am proud of that bitchslap count, so here goes:

"A drawing of the whole earth following the tradition of Ptolemy and the travels of Amerigo Vespucci and others"

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0309/maps.html (lest ye think I know what the hell I'm translating, this will put that to rest. So an additional 100 bitchslaps, on top of the 500 that you promised, may be in order.... O-) )
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: TVDOC on May 06, 2012, 05:07:26 PM
Damn....instead of Latin, I took German....

Actually, I really am proud of that bitchslap count, so here goes:

"A drawing of the whole earth following the tradition of Ptolemy and the travels of Amerigo Vespucci and others"

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0309/maps.html (lest ye think I know what the hell I'm translating, this will put that to rest. So an additional 100 bitchslaps, on top of the 500 that you promised, may be in order.... O-) )

Close enough....done....

doc
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: Eupher on May 06, 2012, 05:09:25 PM
Close enough....done....

doc

 :yahoo:
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: thundley4 on May 06, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
:yahoo:


You're unbalanced.  I will give :hi5: now and then to get you back in balance. (when I think about it , that is)
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 07, 2012, 07:02:30 AM

You're unbalanced.  I will give :hi5: now and then to get you back in balance. (when I think about it , that is)

I just did.  Two more to go. :tongue:
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: thundley4 on May 07, 2012, 09:10:47 AM
I just did.  Two more to go. :tongue:

Make that 101 to go.
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: IassaFTots on May 07, 2012, 09:31:25 AM
An even hunnert now. 
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: Eupher on May 07, 2012, 10:09:31 AM
 :whistling:
Title: Re: Who Was This Person #17
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 07, 2012, 11:47:22 AM
Make that 101 to go.

Okay--I give up. :tongue: