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Title: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 10:36:02 AM
Okay, as many know, today's the seventh anniversary of poor stupid Beth's stunt on Skins's island, the Scamdal, which began at 3:30 p.m. central time, 2:30 p.m. mountain time, April 30, 2005.

It was the scam that rocked the internet; it probably did more than any other single thing to bring embarrassment and discredit to the name and reputation of democraticunderground.

Not even the Bostonian Drunkard's Fitzmas or the famously stupid comments of Pedro Picasso, the Atman primitive, excepted; the Scamdal was much bigger than anything else, and riveted the attention of the great big wide world for three months.

For three days in May-June 2005, and almost a fourth day, traffic on P-J Comix's DUmmie FUnnies on freerepublic exceeded traffic on the whole of Skins's island itself.  And here, remember, we're talking about a thread in a message-board, as compared with a whole entire message-board.  (And a thread not even in the main forum on freerepublic.)

Good times, good times.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 11:17:36 AM
Some of us were aware the Scamdal was coming, because poor stupid Beth couldn't keep her mouth shut.

Later was found a rather vague message on Skins's island from the red round one to the Bostonian Drunkard about a month before the Scamdal, making reference to a "project," and the red round one wanted to know if the Bostonian Drunkard was "ready," but that was discovered later, after the Scamdal had run its course.

But at the time, beginning about two weeks before, poor stupid Beth kept making hints about an "important" fund-raiser that was coming up; that it was "urgent" and needed everyone's attention once it was unleashed, as they would have only "a few days" to get it done.

At the time, I wondered to myself, "Well, if it's urgent, why not get on it right away, instead of dwandling around with it?"

But no, poor stupid Beth dragged out the curiosity for two weeks.  Two weeks which could've netted a lot of bucks.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 12:01:26 PM
It wasn't until about a week before April 30, 2005, that poor stupid Beth got around to dropping hints that the fund-drive was to be for medical expenses of the red round one.

Oh yeah, another Andy Stephenson fund-raiser.....ho-hum.....

The red round one and poor stupid Beth had "coincidentally" joined Skins's island the same time, a few days after the presidential elections of November 2004.

The preceding five months, I myself had not paid attention to these newest members of Skins's island, despite that the red round one was carrying on a feud with his former employer, who'd gotten tired of paying him $3,000 and some odd a month, plus expenses, and not even getting three cents' of work out of him.

It was a pretty big feud, and preoccupied the DUmmie FUnnies for quite a few editions in November-December 2004, and then withered away.

Outside of the feud, I noticed that the red round one's comments on Skins's island dealt nearly wholly with his begging for money to help him out of his medical predicaments (the nature of which were never disclosed, and in fact many people assumed it had something to do with AIDS).

Andy Stephenson was always asking for money.

He was stuck in Washington, D.C., and needed medical attention.  Many primitives gave him helpful advice about free medical clinics in the area, but the red round one didn't want advice; he wanted money, cash, $$$$$, and the more of it the better.

That was 99% of his comments outside the feud.

Poor stupid Beth on the other hand hung around in the "election reform" forum on Skins's island, and most didn't pay much attention to her, because that particular forum was pretty boring, and dominated by the malicious cartoon character primitive, the "Kevin Malice" or "Kelvin Mace" or whatever, primitive, probably the most boring primitive ever.

The malicious cartoon character had his own feud going with the former employer of the red round one; he had tried to cheat her, and because she wouldn't let him cheat her, he hated her.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: dutch508 on April 30, 2012, 12:48:41 PM
I was in Iraq.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: redwhit on April 30, 2012, 01:33:49 PM
I mainly remember that was how I tripped across CC, that and Frank going for cigarettes.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 01:41:19 PM
I was in Iraq.

Yeah, I remember that; what you were doing was of course magnitudes more important than what was going on with the internet at the time.

Anyway, to keep this in chronological order, one has to examine what was going on elsewhere, in real life.

It was late September-early October 2004 that the red round one found out he had pancreatic cancer.

It was surely disconcerting to him, leading to all sorts of jagged, erratic behavior (both in real life and on the internet), such as his feud with his former employer.

By December 2004, he appears to have finally accepted it.  

His constant droning, whining pleas for money were something else.  "Well, I'm going to die anyway, so what the ****, I might as well force others to 'prove' they love me, by giving me money, which I'll spend for other things....."

That appeared to be the red round one's attitude up until about the end of March.

In late February-early March 2005, a Whipple was done at Virginia Mason Hospital in Seattle, Washington (where the red round one lived).  It perhaps does not need pointed out that Virginia Mason is a premier place for having such operations, even better than Johns Hopkins in Baltimore.

About a month before the Scamdal got underway, his attitude changed; he knew what was going to happen, and didn't care any more.  Which is a reasonable way for an individual under such circumstances to feel.

The red round one hung around less and less with the primitives on Skins's island, and by the time the Scamdal itself got underway--after the most excruciatingly-lengthy delay by poor stupid Beth--he was hanging around barely at all.

During the Scamdal, the red round one made a few exhibitions here-and-there, but they weren't serious; he really didn't care.  Poor stupid Beth was the deus ex machina of the whole Scamdal which, as does not need pointed out, was a fiasco of monstrous proportions.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 01:44:25 PM
I mainly remember that was how I tripped across CC, that and Frank going for cigarettes.

Yeah, that was always the "clue" that I had to go to another place to use another computer, so my mole (of the time; not extant any more) could discombobulate the scammers.

Please notice that something always happened when franksolich was away from the DUmmie FUnnies, ostensibly having gone to town to get some cigarettes.

And then when I'd return, my usual greeting, "Well, did anything happen while I was gone?"

Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Charles Henrickson on April 30, 2012, 01:44:39 PM
I was right there with you, frank, on the ENORMOUS and hugely entertaining DUmmie FUnnies threads. This was before I became DUFU co-host, but, like you, I followed the Andy Stephenson Situation very closely and participated in all of the DUFUs. It was one of the most memorable times I've had on the internets.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
I was right there with you, frank, on the ENORMOUS and hugely entertaining DUmmie FUnnies threads. This was before I became DUFU co-host, but, like you, I followed the Andy Stephenson Situation very closely and participated in all of the DUFUs. It was one of the most memorable times I've had on the internets.

You were a battleship of stability in tumultuous waters, sir.

Admirable, how you were.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Sprout on April 30, 2012, 02:12:53 PM
I have to admit, this was the best time I ever had on line.  It was like reading a really good book and not wanting to put it down.  My dog was dying of kidney failure at the time so it took my mind off of that and since I could not leave him alone during the day, I had lots of time to get involved in it.  I remember waking up in the middle of the night and getting on line to see if anything new had happened while I was asleep.

Being threatened with lawsuits was really funny.  I even explained it to husband, who is a lawyer, and he said not to worry about it, there was nothing they could do.

You, and others, keep me on pins and needles.  It was just so nice stirring up the hive and making them even more paranoid than they are.  You should be proud, the DUmmies will never forgive you for it, and you will go down in DUmmy legend.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
You know, this thread's attracted the notice of a great many "guests."

The most unfair, uncalled-for allegation of the scammers was the charge that many decent and civilized people refused to believe that the red round one was really afflicted with pancreatic cancer.

Many did doubt, but their doubts were justified.

Two reasons: (a) this was something emanating from Skins's island, and even w-a-a-a-a-y back in spring 2005, the primitives on Skins's island already had a well-established track record for lies, deceptions, distortions, omissions, and other untruths.

Some didn't believe because of that; DUmmies lie, all the time, DUmmies lie.

And there was (b) that the primitives were always posting photographs allegedly recently taken (like within the past couple of days) that showed the red round one to be in the pink of cherubic health.

(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Eferrari/FatAndy.jpg)

Not until the last seven days of the Scamdal, July 1-7, 2005, when Fat Che put up photographs of the red round one in the hospital on his stupid rose site, did anyone have the slightest idea of how grievously the red round one had eroded.

Up until that time, his meet-up in Ohio, his television appearance in Tennessee, his mucking around New Jersey with "termite" (these were all things that took place in May 2005), had shown him in robust health.

I later asked a physician if it's possible for someone afflicted with pancreatic cancer to look healthy and vigorous until about a week or ten days before death.  He said it'd be highly unusual.  Possible, but an aberration. 

Possibly the red round one was an aberration.

But the scammers had only themselves to blame for the doubts of decent and civilized people, because they were always showing allegedly-current photographs of the red round one very much unlike what most suffering pancreatic cancer look like at that stage in the disease.

Anyone who doubted had valid reasons to doubt, and shouldn't be ashamed of it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on April 30, 2012, 02:14:43 PM
I mainly remember that was how I tripped across CC, that and Frank going for cigarettes.

It was Conservative Underground or FR, since the Cave didn't exist yet.  But understood anyway. ;)

Those were fun days to be moderating all the lurkers from the DUmp who were looking for the straight dope, since no one at DU could speak truth to stupid. (Sarcasm intended)
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
I have to admit, this was the best time I ever had on line.  It was like reading a really good book and not wanting to put it down.  My dog was dying of kidney failure at the time so it took my mind off of that and since I could not leave him alone during the day, I had lots of time to get involved in it.  I remember waking up in the middle of the night and getting on line to see if anything new had happened while I was asleep.

Being threatened with lawsuits was really funny.  I even explained it to husband, who is a lawyer, and he said not to worry about it, there was nothing they could do.

You, and others, keep me on pins and needles.  It was just so nice stirring up the hive and making them even more paranoid than they are.  You should be proud, the DUmmies will never forgive you for it, and you will go down in DUmmy legend.

We did do a good job, didn't we?

And yeah, a lot happened during the middle of the night.

I was always running out of cigarettes during the middle of the night.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 30, 2012, 02:25:25 PM
I don't know where the Hell I was at that time.  I don't think I had found our old home yet.
Title: Re: Re: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 02:27:29 PM
Those were fun days to be moderating all the lurkers from the DUmp who were looking for the straight dope, since no one at DU could speak truth to stupid. (Sarcasm intended)

Yeah.

By the way, it needs pointed out that as a result of the Scamdal, there's been new "rules" about accepting "evidence" from the primitives, on any thing, no matter what it is.

Posted photographs are no longer valid "proof;" after all, what's to stop franksolich from posting a picture of Clare Boothe Luce, insisting it's me, and who can disprove it?

Posting images of documents are no longer valid "proof;" after all, things such as certified checks and "receipts" (quotation marks intentional) can be photoshopped, altered.

The only proof acceptable is that gotten from real life.

Such as the current issue with the big guy, my fellow Nebraskan.  He alleges to have yard-signs, although oddly he hasn't posted a picture of one.  But even if the big guy posted one, that image still wouldn't be "proof" that he has them.

One can after all create a lot of things using Microsoft Paint.

The only proof acceptable in this case is a real-life person in real-life actually eyeballing one of those signs planted in someone's yard or window.

Until that happens, it's quite reasonable to doubt the big guy has campaign yard-signs.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 02:32:06 PM
I don't know where the Hell I was at that time.  I don't think I had found our old home yet.

The spring of 2005, muddyemms hadn't already been a member of our old home?

I thought you preceded me there.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 03:43:16 PM
As most here know, Sherlock Judy, the grasswire primitive, has been diligently reading franksolich on freerepublic, to find the smoking gun that proves freepers killed the late red round one.

I wish I had more readers as diligent as the pie-and-jam primitive.

(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad335/photoatcc/grasswire.jpg)

It's true; she's read every single issue of the DUmmie FUnnies on freerepublic that were posted circa April 30, 2005 until sometime in mid-August 2005, after the Scamdal was over.

Or she thinks she has.

There's one she hasn't read yet, but it'll take some doing to read it.

And that was the biggest, most enormous, edition of the DUmmie FUnnies ever to be issued.

Oh my God, that was enormous; more than three quarters of a million "views" and over 10,000 comments.

Alas, it doesn't exist any more.

You see, what happened was that franksolich in a fit of exuberance, posted a photograph of the sensitive lad, the piano-playing primitive "goodboy", demonstrating a piano to the then-Ohio Secretary of State; they were practically cheek-to-cheek, all lovey-dovey and that.

The then-Ohio Secretary of State was black, and a Republican.

I suspect the sensitive lad got sensitive about it because he didn't like to be shown being buddy-buddy with a--gasp!--black person.  The sensitive lad complained and whined and bawled to Jim Robinson, owner of freerepublic, about it, and Jim must've been having a bad day as it was, and in a fit of pique deleted the whole entire thread, the whole entire edition of that DUmmie FUnnies, all those thousands of comments.

And one of those comments could've been the smoking gun.....

All is not lost for Sherlock Judy, however.

When a thread on freerepublic is deleted, that doesn't mean the comments themselves are deleted from the individual accounts of those who commented upon that thread.  They aren't.

Good luck, grasswire; keep reading franksolich, looking for that smoking gun.....
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: AllosaursRus on April 30, 2012, 03:48:01 PM
Hell, I was right there with Coach, goin' thru what documents we could find and callin' the primitives out when needed! I still have a bookmark for the web site! I never get rid of nuttin', can ya tell? Heh, heh!

Coach took all the flak, but there were many who deserved the same according to the primitives, doncha know.

The "Pittstain" and Beth, were pretty prominent at our old web site before we moved.

The "Fister" tried to get personal with Frank, and we thought a few of us were gonna have to take a vacation in Nebraska! Coach took the brunt of our "meddling" with the fleecing of primitives during those times.

AndyScam was the high lite of that year on Conservative web sites!

Ahhhhhh, good times, good times!
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 04:22:49 PM
Coach took all the flak.....

But that was my job, nothing more.

franksolich was the "diversion" while people more observant, more wise, than I, did all the real work.

I'll never forget the evening the lala_rawraw primitive confided to the scammers, ".....the key to this whole thing is franksolich....."

It took me a couple of hours to stop laughing.

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The "Fister" tried to get personal with Frank.....

Oh yeah.

And as a consequence of that, to protect myself, although law enforcement didn't consider Fat Che a "credible" threat to me, kindly showed me mug shots of Fat Che ("benburch," for those who don't know or don't remember).

I was never kidding when I pointed out that Fat Che walked around, his belly flopped out and down in front of him, as if an apron.

They showed me some other mug shots of other primitives involved in the Scamdal, but never mind.

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AndyScam was the high lite of that year on Conservative web sites!

Ahhhhhh, good times, good times!

Wasn't it though.  There since hasn't been anything like it.

Not even the Bostonian Drunkard's Fitzmas or the big guy's campaign for city council in Bellevue.

By the way, there'll be a commemoration of Fitzmas--its sixth anniversary--on Saturday, May 12.....and probably some big bash here on the following Tuesday, May 15 for another reason.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 04:26:50 PM
You know, we have a lot of reasons to commemorate in May.

Wasn't it in May that the bobbling primitive got the Bostonian Drunkard (only temporarily, alas) mausoleumed?

I was gone from here April-July of that year, and so don't remember exactly when it was, other than it happened while I was absent.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: sharkhawk on April 30, 2012, 04:40:58 PM
I actually got into an argument with Free Republics own TIT impersonator Speed Addiction.  If I remember correctly he claimed an inside source to the Scamdy camp, and I called BS.  Then we got into it over all his other claims.  I guess I should call TIT a Speed Addiction impersonator since he came after.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: delilahmused on April 30, 2012, 04:56:11 PM
You didn't have a choice of "I participated in it" so I just picked the first one. Interesting times.

cindie
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Airwolf on April 30, 2012, 04:56:27 PM
I misssed all of it. Just before the Scam broke out I was busy dealing with some idiots on another message board that refused to deal with some  Asslicker that though it was ok to personally attack Conservatives that went far beyond anything we here have seen from DU. Ptarmy and myself had seen this go on and on and I was hoping that would ban him. Little did I know the moderators on the site were more interested in keeping the fights going no matter the damage caused. So I left and joined another site and later CU after the Scam broke out.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 04:58:22 PM
I actually got into an argument with Free Republics own TIT impersonator Speed Addiction.  If I remember correctly he claimed an inside source to the Scamdy camp, and I called BS.  Then we got into it over all his other claims.  I guess I should call TIT a Speed Addiction impersonator since he came after.

Yeah, speed_addiction was a problem, both on the DUmmie FUnnies and at our old home.

He later got exposed as a poseur, and was banned from freerepublic, but our old home accepted his apologies, and he hung around there.  I wonder what's happened to him since.

Another member of the DUmmie FUnnies that's been long absent is Barset.

Barset was hilarious.  Barset was great.

One wonders whatever happened to Barset, who evaporated with the Scamdal.....
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 05:13:25 PM
You didn't have a choice of "I participated in it" so I just picked the first one. Interesting times.

Oh now, I didn't want to give "too much information" by including that narrow, specific option.

You know you're the heart of my heart, the epitome of my dreams, and I'm very protective of those I love.

Sherlock Judy, the grasswire primitive, lives near you--practically a neighbor of yours, madam--and the last thing we need is for you to be approached by a multi-winter-coated pie-and-jam lady, tugging a child's little red wagon behind her, full of baseball bats she got from dumpsters and garage sales and thrift stores, wanting to play baseball with you.....
Title: Re: Re: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: redwhit on April 30, 2012, 05:15:20 PM
It was Conservative Underground or FR, since the Cave didn't exist yet.  But understood anyway. ;)

Those were fun days to be moderating all the lurkers from the DUmp who were looking for the straight dope, since no one at DU could speak truth to stupid. (Sarcasm intended)

Crap, one of these days I gotta learn how to read.   :thatsright:

Yah, it was CU, cause there were zesty tidbits over there that either didn't make it or weren't allowed at FR.  But it really was like a mystery novel.
Title: Re: Re: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 05:21:38 PM
Yah, it was CU, cause there were zesty tidbits over there that either didn't make it or weren't allowed at FR.  But it really was like a mystery novel.

That was a problem, given that the two sites had different rules about what was allowed.

Which is why members of Scamdy belonged to both sites, because if something wasn't allowed on one, the odds were pretty good it was allowed on the other.  I don't believe either site could allege members of Scamdy violated any of their rules, as we were very good at respecting boundaries.

It's too bad the primitives weren't so good.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: USA4ME on April 30, 2012, 06:13:48 PM
I picked "wasn't around anywhere it was discussed" which is half true.  I was an active member at CU and had been since February, 2004.  But I made a habit of taking off 3 to 4 months during the late Spring and Early Summer just to get away from online life for a while, and it all unfolded during that time.  When I came back, the whole event had virtually passed me by, though I think I caught the very end of it.

Same thing happened at CU when gator when ronpaulbot.  I was away for 3 months doing work, came back and the whole place had blown up.  Took me about a week to figure out most everyone had relocated to CC.

.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Tucker on April 30, 2012, 06:22:16 PM
Trolling the DUmp and running from Paulbots.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 30, 2012, 06:26:34 PM
I started out on FR reading about it on the DUmmie FUnnies and Frank's Can o' Worms reports. Discovered CU when Pitt and somebody else came over to answer restricted questions.

Then I remember Fat Che and his innumerous "Scooby Doo-like" Internet disguises. One time posing as a detective, and he existed for a long time on our old home, always denying he was Fat Che but then when he was exposed, he left. Or went silent.

And then there was that SubGenius guy who was allowed on our old home for the purpose of exposing Fat Che, but he had previously been a disruptor there and it rankled some of the senior members so his stay and expose was short lived.

I even remember when Andy made a post on Free Republic for his paper ballot movement, then I remember forgetting all about it, then I remember someone rediscovering the post after his demise.

I remember his grumpy posts from a hospital bed about silverfish at whatever hospital he was staying at and other complaints. And I also remember something about him jet-setting about the country with a "weeping" post-surgery wound of some sort.

I remember the rage of goodboy. I remember Pitt's empty ninja-lawyer threat. I remember that termite, or flea, Andy's SigOth, took the exact amount of money allegedly raised by the DUmmies from their house via an equity loan or some such and none of it went to medical bills.

I remember Andy buying gold on the dips from a modest inheritance he had received. I remember that there was a puppy too.  And I remember publicity shots of Andy wearing his "paper ballot" hat with his fingers in the V shape as he was being wheeled on a gurney.

I also remember how Andy's former boss, the lady who the comic book super villain tried to rip-off, actually found vote fraud in a Democrat county of Florida but it was hushed up by the DUmp monkeys who didn't want to hear it/thought it was a good thing.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Mr Mannn on April 30, 2012, 06:40:12 PM
Yeah, I was on FR at the time too, looking forward to every DUmmy FUnnies.
Those were the days. I barely post at FR anymore.

and Frank, thumbs up! Consistent quality though all the years. Love your writing.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Big Dog on April 30, 2012, 06:49:24 PM
I was on the grassy knoll.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_m-AoDlox4ms/TOaVPCIE7_I/AAAAAAAAMik/kTEvoMefM8k/s1600/sniper-dog-700x525.jpg)
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 07:29:33 PM

Great memories, sir.

Yeah, Fat Che ("benburch") was pretty stupid.

He acted as if we were the stupid ones and couldn't see through him.

I'll never forget the time he had a problem with logging in somewhere, and gave his password to Misty.

Misty on the DUmmie FUnnies was another great one, proving that one shouldn't mess around with women in the bus business.

One wonders whatever happened to Misty; she too disappeared shortly after the Scamdal had run its course.

By the way, the late red round one's PayPal account in late April 2005 showed a balance in four figures (a few thousand dollars and some odd cents).  This was before the Scamdal got underway, and maybe perhaps were residual funds from his short-lived "campaign" for Secretary of State of Washington state.

That campaign, like the one currently being waged by the big guy in Bellevue, was just a game, nothing more.  The then-Secretary of State of Washington was a Republican, and there was a big-name Democrat opposing him in 2006.  (The Republican won re-election.)

It always killed me, in the wikipedia entry for "Andy Stephenson," where it was alleged he "took on" a powerful Republican Secretary of State.  He didn't take on anything; he was planning to run in the Democrat primary for the office, not for the office itself.  His plans however melted away.  He never even filed.

Much for the betterment of accurate history, the late red round one's wikipedia entry was later deleted by the authorities there; one shudders to think that had it remained, some high-school student twenty or thirty years hence might use him as the subject of a term paper.  But no chance of that any more.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 30, 2012, 07:36:12 PM
I never really noticed it before but it is interesting that the Scamdal coincides with Walpurgisnacht and the eve before the great communist holiday, May Day. Means nothing but I'm sure some DUmp conspiracy theorist can make something of it.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 07:40:05 PM
Yeah, I was on FR at the time too, looking forward to every DUmmy FUnnies.

Those were the days. I barely post at FR anymore.

and Frank, thumbs up! Consistent quality though all the years. Love your writing.

This was a typical DUmmie ALERT! posted inside the DUmmie FUnnies while the Scamdal was going on, to advise interested parties that something new had transpired.  There were hundreds of such DUmmie ALERT!s, but this is the only one I can find at the moment:

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DUmmie ALERT!

DUmmie ALERT!

DUmmie ALERT!

(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Eferrari/FatAndy.jpg)

RED ROUND ONE DISAPPEARS!

INTO THIN AIR, EVAPORATES!

WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN!

WITH THE WIND, GONE!

sfexpat2000 ALLEGES KIDNAPPING BY “freepers”!

ALLEGES FOUL PLAY BY “freepers”!

flyarm IN PARIS!  ON A SHOPPING SPREE!

ABANDONS SICK-BED OF THE RED ROUND ONE!

SICK-BED EMPTY, UNOCCUPIED, NEVER OCCUPIED!

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dummiedestroyer/can-o-worms.jpg)

OH RED ROUND ONE, WHERE ART THOU?
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 08:15:40 PM
I never really noticed it before but it is interesting that the Scamdal coincides with Walpurgisnacht and the eve before the great communist holiday, May Day. Means nothing but I'm sure some DUmp conspiracy theorist can make something of it.

I remember that being pointed out in the DUmmie FUnnies, but I don't recall who said it; I would've guessed it was you.

By the way, about the third day into the Scamdal, it was obvious what was going on; that this was poor stupid Beth's baby, and not the red round one's.

I think everybody had grasped that, consciously or subconsciously, by Sunday of the first week.

Some primitives made a big deal about proponents of open and honest fund-raisers being "ghouls," chasing after a dying man, but that of course was shit.

When it was understood what was really going on, all focus switched from the red round one to poor stupid Beth, where it remained until the end of the Scamdal.  No one paid attention to the red round one, who was left in peace and quiet while all eyes watched poor stupid Beth **** up over and over and over again.

Poor stupid Beth's biggest mistake was believing that freerepublic was "six old men with sockpuppets," of little or no consequence.  And so at first, none of the primitives were watching the DUmmie FUnnies; after all, poor stupid Beth had said freerepublic didn't matter.

As a consequence, the scammers were compelled to hurriedly backtrack and change their stories on details examined in the DUmmie FUnnies (and later, at our old home and on Scamdy.com) some days previously, tripping all over each other in their "explanations" or "clarifications."

franksolich had advised poor stupid Beth from Day One--in fact, circa 3:32 p.m. central time, April 30, about two minutes after the Scamdal was launched--that it might be a good idea to "assign" a primitive to hang around the DUmmie FUnnies to see what was being said, so as to keep her story-line straight.

But did poor stupid Beth heed the advice and counsel of franksolich?

N-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.

It's really odd, the things that happen to primitives who ignore franksolich's advice and counsel.....
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 09:41:54 PM
To conclude the commemoration of this most memorable day seven years ago, it must be pointed out that even to this day, no one knows whatever happened to the money that was raised.

One person might know, but as she's now non compos mentis, no point in demanding the answer from her.

As for a point that's neither here nor there, but belongs somewhere, poor stupid Beth is on record--in the newspaper--as admitting that she herself never met the late red round one in real life, in person.

That's right; sfexpat2000 never met Andy Stephenson.  She said so herself.

She knew him only via the internet.

But back to wrapping this up, no one even knows how much money was raised.

Speculations seem to be on the "too high" side, especially given that the primitives are notorious for always promising, never delivering. 

It is possible that whatever money was actually raised, most of it came from "freepers" who wrong-headedly thought proponents of open and honest fund-raisers were "too hard" on the scammers.  Scamdy had to deal with a few of those bleeding hearts from this side.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Doubleplusungood on April 30, 2012, 09:58:55 PM
I was full time poster at Hannity's forum in those days and never knew this went down. I missed out on the good times.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: GOBUCKS on April 30, 2012, 10:01:00 PM

That's right; sfexpat2000 never met Andy Stephenson.  She said so herself.

He hardly had time for her. Every day during the Andyscam, a half dozen DUmmies would claim to have met him that day, and would recount their conversations.

Even when he was alleged to be in Johns Hopkins for his imaginary surgery dozens of DUmmies claimed to have visited him there.

Dozens of DUmmies claimed to be corresponding with him by e-mail, even when he was supposedly in intensive care.

It was all these co-conspirators who made the Andyscam extraordinary.

Of course many of the announced pledges never resulted in money - they were bait to lure in money from simpleminded DUmmies who thought they were doing good.

Poor stupid DUmmies never heard of the "judas goat" model for fundraising.

With all those swarms of DUmpmonkeys in constant close physical and electronic contact with the round red sodomite, it is amazing that coach was able to slip through and kill the son of a bitch.

But he did.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on April 30, 2012, 10:11:22 PM
He hardly had time for her. Every day during the Andyscam, a half dozen DUmmies would claim to have met him that day, and would recount their conversations.

Even when he was alleged to be in Johns Hopkins for his imaginary surgery dozens of DUmmies claimed to have visited him there.

Dozens of DUmmies claimed to be corresponding with him by e-mail, even when he was supposedly in intensive care.

It was all these co-conspirators who made the Andyscam extraordinary.

Of course many of the announced pledges never resulted in money - they were bait to lure in money from simpleminded DUmmies who thought they were doing good.

Poor stupid DUmmies never heard of the "judas goat" model for fundraising.

With all those swarms of DUmpmonkeys in constant close physical and electronic contact with the round red sodomite, it is amazing that coach was able to slip through and kill the son of a bitch.

But he did.

Just right off the top of my head, the primitives who actually met the late red round one in real life included the sensitive lad, the MeganMonkey primitive, the liberalnurse primitive, and a whole lot of primitives around New Jersey.

Which made sense, because that's where the late red round one spent all his time before flying back to Seattle for his final days; as a guest in the Streisandian digs of Leona Helmsley of DUmmieland, the now-mausoleumed flyarm primitive.  flyarm has really big digs there--they surpass even those of the rich bitch the kpete primitive--and so one reasonably assumes the late red round one had a comfortable time there.

The one that always got me, though, was the Joan_Alpern primitive, the "psychic."  An occasion arose where the red round one needed some quick cash, and he wrote her a check for $300. 

The check bounced.

What got me about this was that if the Joan_Alpern primitive was in fact psychic, how come she didn't know in advance the check would be no good?
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 04, 2012, 06:08:02 PM
I chose "knew it was there, but ignored it", but should of been "watching it once in a while, but not wholly". I remember it well.

I misssed all of it. Just before the Scam broke out I was busy dealing with some idiots on another message board that refused to deal with some  Asslicker that though it was ok to personally attack Conservatives that went far beyond anything we here have seen from DU. Ptarmy and myself had seen this go on and on and I was hoping that would ban him. Little did I know the moderators on the site were more interested in keeping the fights going no matter the damage caused. So I left and joined another site and later CU after the Scam broke out.
What a mess. Many of the originals from there are here or at CU today.

Yeah, speed_addiction was a problem, both on the DUmmie FUnnies and at our old home.

He later got exposed as a poseur, and was banned from freerepublic, but our old home accepted his apologies, and he hung around there.  I wonder what's happened to him since.

Another member of the DUmmie FUnnies that's been long absent is Barset.

Barset was hilarious.  Barset was great.

One wonders whatever happened to Barset, who evaporated with the Scamdal.....
I remember Speed_Addict. I know about his fake military service story. I never saw it. However, I remember his prison stories well and I thought they were dubious. Why would someone brag about being in prison. I have wondered about him too.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 04, 2012, 06:12:59 PM
It was Conservative Underground or FR, since the Cave didn't exist yet.  But understood anyway. ;)

Those were fun days to be moderating all the lurkers from the DUmp who were looking for the straight dope, since no one at DU could speak truth to stupid. (Sarcasm intended)

Scamdy was back in 2005 to early 2006 if I recall. That's the biggest scandal I recall. I can't think of any scandal comparable to Scamdy to this day.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on May 04, 2012, 06:29:38 PM
I actually got into an argument with Free Republics own TIT impersonator Speed Addiction.  If I remember correctly he claimed an inside source to the Scamdy camp, and I called BS.  Then we got into it over all his other claims.  I guess I should call TIT a Speed Addiction impersonator since he came after.

SA did make some wild claims, didn't he?  I wonder what happened to him?
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 04, 2012, 06:42:07 PM
SA did make some wild claims, didn't he?  I wonder what happened to him?

Hey--didn't StinkDUd say something about having a mole over here? :???: :fuelfire: :whistling:
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on May 04, 2012, 06:43:48 PM
He hardly had time for her. Every day during the Andyscam, a half dozen DUmmies would claim to have met him that day, and would recount their conversations.

Even when he was alleged to be in Johns Hopkins for his imaginary surgery dozens of DUmmies claimed to have visited him there.

Dozens of DUmmies claimed to be corresponding with him by e-mail, even when he was supposedly in intensive care.

It was all these co-conspirators who made the Andyscam extraordinary.

Of course many of the announced pledges never resulted in money - they were bait to lure in money from simpleminded DUmmies who thought they were doing good.

Poor stupid DUmmies never heard of the "judas goat" model for fundraising.

With all those swarms of DUmpmonkeys in constant close physical and electronic contact with the round red sodomite, it is amazing that coach was able to slip through and kill the son of a bitch.

But he did.

It always cracks me up when you mention that coach killed the red round one.  Hi 5.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Tucker on May 04, 2012, 06:45:11 PM
SA did make some wild claims, didn't he?  I wonder what happened to him?

I do believe that he is on CU.

He came clean before the old CU was over ran with paulbots. All was forgiven.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 04, 2012, 06:54:29 PM
I do believe that he is on CU.

He came clean before the old CU was over ran with paulbots. All was forgiven.

SA made claims he was an Army Ranger and in prison.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Chris_ on May 04, 2012, 06:55:59 PM
SA made claims he was an Army Ranger and in prison.
I believe the latter, not the former.  I think both turned out to be bullshit.

Who the hell would brag about being in prison? :whatever:
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 04, 2012, 07:13:50 PM
I believe the latter, not the former.  I think both turned out to be bullshit.

Who the hell would brag about being in prison? :whatever:

I don't actually remember his military story, but is well known from what I recall.

I remember his prison story more.  His prison story was fake because like you said who brags about being prison. I don't get it either. They rather put it behind and move on.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Duke Nukum on May 04, 2012, 07:47:52 PM
I don't actually remember his military story, but is well known from what I recall.

I remember his prison story more.  His prison story was fake because like you said who brags about being prison. I don't get it either. They rather put it behind and move on.
I remember one military story where a camel exploded while he and his unit where out on patrol that allegedly happened during the first gulf war.

I remember one prison story where the prisoners found out they had been fed zoo grade meat.

I remember some story, maybe the one that got him sent to "prison" where he and/or his brother stole a plane a flew it into Mexico, or something.

I remember he claimed he had some trigger event in his life that caused him to want to live life like it was a Jerry Bruckheimer movie.

I also remember a claim that he owned  a gas station that he was able to buy because he treated someone well in prison. The details elude me.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 04, 2012, 07:50:30 PM
It always cracks me up when you mention that coach killed the red round one.  Hi 5.

Me too.

It sets the pie-and-jam primitive, the grasswire primitive, off, scurrying around for her deerhunter cap and magnifying glass, going out again in zealous pursuit of finding the smoking gun.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: GOBUCKS on May 04, 2012, 07:54:25 PM
It always cracks me up when you mention that coach killed the red round one.  Hi 5.

Well, you know franksolich is a nice guy. In fact he's one of the nicest guys one could ever hope to meet.

Part of his niceness is manifested in humility and self-deprecation, so he always declines to take credit for the sodomite's timely passing.

But those of us who followed the saga in real time know better.

It's easy to doubt that coach is a stone-cold killer, but remember Chuck Barris was a CIA hitman while hosting The Gong Show.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Duke Nukum on May 04, 2012, 08:10:09 PM
If franksolich killed Andy, then he also killed Steve Jobs.

Andy had a form of cancer that rarely responds to treatment for any length of time.

Andy knew his time was limited and threw himself into the whole verified voting thing in the hopes of leaving a legacy. He failed. It happens.

None of the Primitives, so far as I know, threw themselves into Andy's cause after his death. In fact, whenever any state attempts to verify voting by making a photo ID a requirement of voting, the Primitives only cry "racism."

The Primitives can kiss Duke Nukum's ass.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 04, 2012, 09:17:35 PM
I remember one military story where a camel exploded while he and his unit where out on patrol that allegedly happened during the first gulf war.

I remember one prison story where the prisoners found out they had been fed zoo grade meat.

I remember some story, maybe the one that got him sent to "prison" where he and/or his brother stole a plane a flew it into Mexico, or something.

I remember he claimed he had some trigger event in his life that caused him to want to live life like it was a Jerry Bruckheimer movie.

I also remember a claim that he owned  a gas station that he was able to buy because he treated someone well in prison. The details elude me.

I think you are onto something. He lives his life like a movie, in this case Jerry Bruckheimer movie. I am guessing the real SA is a bored person and one day concocts a bunch of lies. 
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: GOBUCKS on May 04, 2012, 09:21:36 PM
If franksolich killed Andy, then he also killed Steve Jobs.

Coach never laid a glove on Jobs.

But if poor stupid Beth had run a crooked scam to pay for his treatment, coach would have iced him, too.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 04, 2012, 09:30:43 PM
Coach never laid a glove on Jobs.

But if poor stupid Beth had run a crooked scam to pay for his treatment, coach would have iced him, too.

I paid some attention to Scamdy, but didn't know the exact nature of it other than some questionable fundraising.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 05, 2012, 06:40:34 AM
I paid some attention to Scamdy, but didn't know the exact nature of it other than some questionable fundraising.

Uh huh.

I always thought it funny, the "open and honest" election primitives being against open and honest fund-raisers.

The bottom line was, and is, that poor stupid Beth was trying to raise money for an operation that had already been had a couple of months previously, and in Seattle, not Baltimore, and for purposes other than medical bills.

No one will ever know the "why" of it, because that's been frozen in poor stupid Beth's now-petrified, now fossilized, cerebral-cells, and can't come out.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 05, 2012, 10:18:11 AM
Uh huh.

I always thought it funny, the "open and honest" election primitives being against open and honest fund-raisers.

The bottom line was, and is, that poor stupid Beth was trying to raise money for an operation that had already been had a couple of months previously, and in Seattle, not Baltimore, and for purposes other than medical bills.

No one will ever know the "why" of it, because that's been frozen in poor stupid Beth's now-petrified, now fossilized, cerebral-cells, and can't come out.

There were so much details. I do remember the Seattle and Baltimore thing.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: JakeStyle on May 05, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
I do believe that he is on CU.

He came clean before the old CU was over ran with paulbots. All was forgiven.

He still posts there, just not very often.  His new name is Speedy.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Tucker on May 05, 2012, 10:37:47 AM
He still posts there, just not very often.  His new name is Speedy.

Yeah, I know.

I just didn't think that his new name was important.

I don't condone what he did but life is too short to hold grudges or anger all of the time. All of my disgust is focused on DUmmies and the democrat party. They are a cancerous disease.

The only democrat that I like as of today is dead Ted. He needs company.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: I_B_Perky on May 05, 2012, 08:35:54 PM
I remember one military story where a camel exploded while he and his unit where out on patrol that allegedly happened during the first gulf war.

I remember one prison story where the prisoners found out they had been fed zoo grade meat.

I remember some story, maybe the one that got him sent to "prison" where he and/or his brother stole a plane a flew it into Mexico, or something.

I remember he claimed he had some trigger event in his life that caused him to want to live life like it was a Jerry Bruckheimer movie.

I also remember a claim that he owned  a gas station that he was able to buy because he treated someone well in prison. The details elude me.

I was a lurker at Cu in those days. I remember his story well. If I recall... he got out of prison, on a life sentence, due to some technicality, something about mandatory sentences, and ended up working for some gas station where the owner let him sleep in one of the bays and then eventually bought the place. Then he showed a pic of his hummer. Along with his stories bout how he was in Somalia, etc. Then he said he went bankrupt due to some major customer at the garage stiffing him. I knew speed addiction was a never a Ranger because if a former Ranger had ever got busted for some major weight, like he said, it would have been all over the news. He also said something about his brother or somebody coming into his house and shooting his ass.  :bs:

Just way too much crap to believe. He eventually said his military service was as a commo guy when he got outed. Then said some Ranger came to his garage and dressed him down and he took it. Waaay too much BS.  :bs:

Anyway... I never wanted to join that site and call him out because of Gator and his moral clarity BS. Gator is an asshole. You listening Gator? You're an asshole!!!   Well... I always liked Frank's posts. And then one day... Frank "went away" from CU. Well I googled Franksolich eventually and found him here and lurked for a while. Then while on a 12 pack of Michelob one Saturday nite, I decided to join.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.  :-)

Anyway... I remember the scamdy. It was... great! Kept me on the edge of my seat. Sorry the man died and all that, but he was a con artist like speed addiction. Probably the only thing either of them regret is getting caught.

Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 05, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
He still posts there, just not very often.  His new name is Speedy.
I think Speedy is banned from CU.

Yeah, I know.

I just didn't think that his new name was important.

I don't condone what he did but life is too short to hold grudges or anger all of the time. All of my disgust is focused on DUmmies and the democrat party. They are a cancerous disease.

The only democrat that I like as of today is dead Ted. He needs company.
I don't have any grudge against SA either. I knew he was lying before he was exposed.

I was a lurker at Cu in those days. I remember his story well. If I recall... he got out of prison, on a life sentence, due to some technicality, something about mandatory sentences, and ended up working for some gas station where the owner let him sleep in one of the bays and then eventually bought the place. Then he showed a pic of his hummer. Along with his stories bout how he was in Somalia, etc. Then he said he went bankrupt due to some major customer at the garage stiffing him. I knew speed addiction was a never a Ranger because if a former Ranger had ever got busted for some major weight, like he said, it would have been all over the news. He also said something about his brother or somebody coming into his house and shooting his ass.  :bs:

Just way too much crap to believe. He eventually said his military service was as a commo guy when he got outed. Then said some Ranger came to his garage and dressed him down and he took it. Waaay too much BS.  :bs:

Anyway... I never wanted to join that site and call him out because of Gator and his moral clarity BS. Gator is an asshole. You listening Gator? You're an asshole!!!   Well... I always liked Frank's posts. And then one day... Frank "went away" from CU. Well I googled Franksolich eventually and found him here and lurked for a while. Then while on a 12 pack of Michelob one Saturday nite, I decided to join.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.  :-)

Anyway... I remember the scamdy. It was... great! Kept me on the edge of my seat. Sorry the man died and all that, but he was a con artist like speed addiction. Probably the only thing either of them regret is getting caught.


The gas station story was another one. Gator is no longer at CU.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: I_B_Perky on May 05, 2012, 09:05:14 PM
I haven't been to CU since I found this place. I'm a one site guy!!!!   :-)
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: delilahmused on May 05, 2012, 09:55:06 PM
I DO miss AnonymousArmy! He just kind of disappeared after this whole thing faded away.

Cindie
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 05, 2012, 10:15:52 PM
I DO miss AnonymousArmy! He just kind of disappeared after this whole thing faded away.

Me, too.

But the mission was accomplished, and alas there was nothing else holding us all together, other than that we'd all served under the hostile fire of primitives who observed no boundaries, exhibited no decency.

Towards the end, I think everybody was just.....worn out, drained.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: GOBUCKS on May 05, 2012, 11:08:44 PM
Me, too.

But the mission was accomplished, and alas there was nothing else holding us all together, other than that we'd all served under the hostile fire of primitives who observed no boundaries, exhibited no decency.

Towards the end, I think everybody was just.....worn out, drained.
Well, anyway, thanks for your service.

It was funnier than hell for us bystanders, and you did finally ice the bugger.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: txradioguy on May 06, 2012, 01:18:02 AM
I was right there with you, frank, on the ENORMOUS and hugely entertaining DUmmie FUnnies threads. This was before I became DUFU co-host, but, like you, I followed the Andy Stephenson Situation very closely and participated in all of the DUFUs. It was one of the most memorable times I've had on the internets.

Yeah I was in the middle of it on two different forums as well. CU and Free Republic. Posting info reposting info that Frank was putting up at FR over in CU and at one point confronting WillPitt on CU and rendering him unable to respond.

It was a crazy few days. I'm still waiting for Pitts army of ninja lawyers to arrive at my front door.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: txradioguy on May 06, 2012, 01:30:48 AM
SA did make some wild claims, didn't he?  I wonder what happened to him?

He's still around at CU. after the crash he changed his name to IRRC Speedy.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: txradioguy on May 06, 2012, 01:41:40 AM
Kelvin Mace   (1000+ posts)             Fri Jun-03-05 11:30 PM
Original message
It has come to my attention that an "anti-Andy Stephenson" domain

has been registered in my name.

Some clown, (J'Accuse, Bev Harris!) has registered or had a stooge register the domain scamdy.com. "Scamdy" is the childish nickname freepers have created for Andy in their vile postings at FR and CU.

I can only assume the intent of this person was to create a site mokcing or attacking Andy, then when the WhoIs registry was checked, it would look like I was being disloyal and we would have another 600 post thread arguing the evidence for and against me.

The end result, more discord and mistrust at DU, Bev Harris and her fellow Freepers laughing their ass off at my expense.

The registration info has my home address (which is not used in my other domain registrations) and uses a phone number I only give to my artists and writers. Of all the people who would know that number, only Bev knew the number had a connection to Andy and "scamdy".

I will know soon enough since the person who registered the domain still had to pay with their credit card. I have contacted the registrar and my attorney. I am exploring legal action and what laws may have been broken.

I WILL prosecute!

Please keep this kicked and be on the look out for similar dirty tricks.

Here is the registry listing:

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Domain name: scamdy.com

Registrant:
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Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: NHSparky on May 06, 2012, 01:57:44 AM
What a mess. Many of the originals from there are here or at CU today.

RN?
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 08:55:23 AM

That was s-o-o-o-o funny, the allegations of the malicious cartoon character primitive, the "Kevin Malice" primitive.

This was before franksolich was invited into the inner group of Scamdy; there'd been some hesitation about inviting me aboard because of my undeserved reputation and the unfair perception of me as a "loose cannon."

franksolich may be a loose cannon, but I'm not that loose.

But anyway, no hard feelings.

The original Scamdy had been built by the members of democraticunderground involved in checking out the scam, but it got taken down only a day or so before I was invited to join, because of the malicious cartoon character's whining--as if he and other Democrats, liberals, and primitives haven't practiced deception before.

It was put back up, and lo and behold, franksolich was the new owner of Scamdy, at $9.95 per month.

An angry newspaper reporter in Seattle confronted me, demanding to know the "whats" of it, but I could not answer for what'd happened before franksolich was involved; I'd been told the previous owner was registered under the name of the malicious cartoon character's pet dog.  I'm sure he thought I was lying, but I wasn't.

Scamdy under my ownership remained unmolested for a couple of years thereafter, until I finally decided to let it die.  I announced this at our old home (that I was going to let it lapse), but then when it did die, Fat Che boasted that franksolich had "forgotten" to renew it, and snapped it up for himself.

I hadn't forgotten a damned thing; I purposely let the site die.

I have no idea what Fat Che did with Scamdy under his ownership.

The malicious cartoon character, the most boring primitive ever--who hated the prominent election fraud activist because he'd tried to cheat her, and she wouldn't let him cheat her--is not going to believe this, but Bev Harris had no connection, no connection whatsoever, with Scamdy.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: txradioguy on May 06, 2012, 09:12:31 AM
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I have no idea what Fat Che did with Scamdy under his ownership.

I just checked.

www.scamdy.com now redirects to Big Jerry's salon.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 09:26:25 AM
I just checked.

www.scamdy.com now redirects to Big Jerry's salon.

Thanks, sir; I wondered, but I wasn't curious enough to check it out myself.

As you know, Fat Che was notorious for trying to blackmail his fellow primitives on Skins's island, the most elemental "trick" of his being collecting ISP (internet service provider) numbers, and going from there.

I always had this "picture" of Fat Che sitting at the kitchen table, shirtless, his big belly hanging over and down in front, nearly sagging to the floor, as he scissored ISP numbers off of sheets of paper, pasting them into a book, as if he were collecting postage-stamps.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: obumazombie on May 06, 2012, 10:44:09 AM
So to recap this scam, a bunch of libs got upset that someone wanted money for a cause, the libs donated, then got upset when the money wasn't used the way they intended, or wanted ? So let's say a conservative had money taken from them at the threat of gunpoint, and the money was used in a manner the conservative disagreed with...

Edited to add "n"
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 06, 2012, 10:51:55 AM
RN?

Yup. RN.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 10:53:49 AM
So to recap this scam, a bunch of libs got upset that someone wanted money for a cause, the libs donated, then got upset when the money wasn't used the way they intended, or wanted ? So let's say a conservative had money taken from them at the threat of gunpoint, and the money was used in a manner the conservative disagreed with...

That was the perception of the members of democraticunderground who were involved with Scamdy, and also the attitude of certain other members who chose not to get involved.  

I don't think any of them however donated any money.

No one knows how much money was actually raised, and I still suspect hardly any money was raised.

And what was raised, most of it probably came from this side, from decent and civilized but stupid people who thought our side was "picking on a dying man."  Which of course was bullshit.  
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 11:00:09 AM
Forever embedded in the memory is something from a gulled primitive, but not on Skins's island.

I forget which site it was, other than that it wasn't Skin's island.

That of the primitive, in a wheelchair because his legs had been amputated clear up to his groin, and subsisting on $550-a-month disability checks, but who'd managed to donate $300 to poor stupid Beth, standing up in righteous indignation and fury in front of his computer after he learned it'd been a fraud.

The liberalnurse primitive told him to go **** himself.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: txradioguy on May 06, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
So to recap this scam, a bunch of libs got upset that someone wanted money for a cause, the libs donated, then got upset when the money wasn't used the way they intended, or wanted ? So let's say a conservative had money taken from them at the threat of gunpoint, and the money was used in a manner the conservative disagreed with...

Edited to add "n"

The backstory is that he was supposedly near death from pancreatic cancer.  So near death he was able to flit around the country for almost a year before he just HAD to have his operation at Johns Hopkins.  Never mind the fact the surgery could have been done where he lived in Seattle.

And in the end...despite what the DUmmies say...Andy didn't die because of the exposing of his fraudulent fund raising or because he didn't get his liver transplant in time...he died from a post op infection.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 11:08:03 AM
The backstory is that he was supposedly near death from pancreatic cancer.  So near death he was able to flit around the country for almost a year before he just HAD to have his operation at Johns Hopkins.  Never mind the fact the surgery could have been done where he lived in Seattle.

The surgery had been done in Seattle, at Virginia Mason hospital.....in February 2005.

Poor stupid Beth launched the scam on April 30, 2005, after that.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: obumazombie on May 06, 2012, 11:15:47 AM
That was the perception of the members of democraticunderground who were involved with Scamdy, and also the attitude of certain other members who chose not to get involved.  

I don't think any of them however donated any money.

No one knows how much money was actually raised, and I still suspect hardly any money was raised.

And what was raised, most of it probably came from this side, from decent and civilized but stupid people who thought our side was "picking on a dying man."  Which of course was bullshit.  
So, the libs supported the cause in spirit, not in any other meaningful way, yes, I am starting to see why they became so righteously indignant.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
So, the libs supported the cause in spirit, not in any other meaningful way, yes, I am starting to see why they became so righteously indignant.

Poor stupid Beth used sockpuppets to rev up the fund-raising when things got slow.

That, I could never figure out; for a primitive who'd been on Skins's island only six months by then--she'd joined in November 2004--she sure seemed to have a lot of weight to throw around, including her sockpuppets.

Anyway, something like this would happen:

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sfexpat2000

Come on, folks!  Time's wasting!  We need your money, and we need it now!  And as much of it as possible!

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pittypatty

How does one donate?  I wanna donate!

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IHateBush

Through his paypal account!  It goes right to him!

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gunk4278

But what if one wants to send a check or money order or cash?

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plutplut

Here's his post office address in Seattle!  after which address was given  Send it now!

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LongDog

Yeah!  Empty those wallets, people!

And so on.

My fellow alum frowns on the use of sockpuppets--or at least he did back then--and we were always stymied why an exception was made for poor stupid Beth; it was obvious what she was doing here.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 11:36:44 AM
By the way, today's the seventh anniversary of the night the primitives broke into the mailroom at Johns Hopkins and found the certified check.

Odd, that the primitives found the certified check before the proponents of open and honest fund-raising got paypal put a "stop" on the funds.

(Of course, no such "stop" ever occurred; individuals cannot prevent paypal from fulfilling its contractual obligations to its customers.....contractual obligations which at the time [2005] included that paypal "held" all funds for three or five days after receipt; I forget which.)
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: GOBUCKS on May 06, 2012, 11:54:33 AM
By the way, today's the seventh anniversary of the night the primitives broke into the mailroom at Johns Hopkins and found the certified check.

I wonder, if one were to gain access to the area of a huge institution like Johns Hopkins where mail is received, how one would go about looking for a single piece of mail.

Of course, payments to large medical centers are often handled somewhere other than the hospital campus.

Nevertheless, how many bags, baskets, truckloads of mail would arrive at a place like Johns Hopkins Hospital on any given day?

If given free rein to rummage through all that mail (much of which would fall under federal privacy laws), how likely would it be for a handful of moonbats to locate that one single envelope?

How many envelopes would they have to open to know they'd found the right one?

Those DUmpmonkeys in Baltimore pulled off a real miracle, didn't they?
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 12:26:01 PM
Those DUmpmonkeys in Baltimore pulled off a real miracle, didn't they?

Uh huh.

I still can't believe poor stupid Beth thought that fable credible.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: txradioguy on May 06, 2012, 12:38:21 PM
By the way, today's the seventh anniversary of the night the primitives broke into the mailroom at Johns Hopkins and found the certified check.

Odd, that the primitives found the certified check before the proponents of open and honest fund-raising got paypal put a "stop" on the funds.

(Of course, no such "stop" ever occurred; individuals cannot prevent paypal from fulfilling its contractual obligations to its customers.....contractual obligations which at the time [2005] included that paypal "held" all funds for three or five days after receipt; I forget which.)

Didn't we determine that their "check" wasn't really a check but more of the stub from a check?

I remember commenting to that it looked like something someone printed off of their printer at their house using Quicken.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 12:44:45 PM
Didn't we determine that their "check" wasn't really a check but more of the stub from a check?

I remember commenting to that it looked like something someone printed off of their printer at their house using Quicken.

That was a fiasco, the way the primitives who went over to our old home to "explain" things, handled the matter of checks and receipts.

I disremember what was resolved about the checks, but the receipts were fake.  One of the members of Scamdy lived near Baltimore at the time, and during one of his trips there, went to the business office of Johns Hopkins with images of the "receipts."

He was shown blank receipts for purposes of check-and-cash payments.  No match, not even close.

This led to the biggest reform in accepting "evidence" from the primitives (about anything); photographs and images of documents are not enough.  After all, one can do all sorts of things with photoshop.

It has to be verified in real life.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Tucker on May 06, 2012, 01:21:32 PM

I don't think any of them however donated any money.



Just a guess, but they probably donated as much to Andy as they donated to Steve's campaign which coincidentally is a moniker of their fearless leader...

zero.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 06, 2012, 03:04:03 PM
That was the perception of the members of democraticunderground who were involved with Scamdy, and also the attitude of certain other members who chose not to get involved.  

I don't think any of them however donated any money.

No one knows how much money was actually raised, and I still suspect hardly any money was raised.

And what was raised, most of it probably came from this side, from decent and civilized but stupid people who thought our side was "picking on a dying man."  Which of course was bullshit.  

I don't recall anyone talking bad about Andy Stephenson at CU. Not sure about FR. Stephenson if I recall was new to politics and was largely apolitical for most of his life. I think PayPal froze one of the account to raise money from DU. I think Scamdy alienated people from DU and some came to CU.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 06, 2012, 03:06:19 PM
The backstory is that he was supposedly near death from pancreatic cancer.  So near death he was able to flit around the country for almost a year before he just HAD to have his operation at Johns Hopkins.  Never mind the fact the surgery could have been done where he lived in Seattle.

And in the end...despite what the DUmmies say...Andy didn't die because of the exposing of his fraudulent fund raising or because he didn't get his liver transplant in time...he died from a post op infection.

He probably would of survived and lived today if it was not for that infection. I felt sorry for him and his family the way DU treated him.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 03:13:05 PM
I think PayPal froze one of the account to raise money from DU.

Never happened.

It couldn't have happened even if one tried to; paypal does not "freeze," and never has "frozen," funds belonging to a customer, unless ordered to do so by some court or the U.S. Department of Justice.

It never happened.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 06, 2012, 05:28:44 PM
Never happened.

It couldn't have happened even if one tried to; paypal does not "freeze," and never has "frozen," funds belonging to a customer, unless ordered to do so by some court or the U.S. Department of Justice.

It never happened.

I heard that allegation second hand. So, it is questionable.
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: GOBUCKS on May 06, 2012, 05:46:04 PM
I don't recall anyone talking bad about Andy Stephenson at CU. Not sure about FR. Stephenson if I recall was new to politics and was largely apolitical for most of his life. I think PayPal froze one of the account to raise money from DU. I think Scamdy alienated people from DU and some came to CU.

He was a fraudster, hooking up with Bev Harris's "black box voting" scam.

They were cashing in on the morons who bought the idea that the presidential election in Ohio was somehow crooked and could be voided.

Even though he was eventually canned by Bev Harris, he continued to conduct his part of the swindle until coach killed his ass.

Now, we have to trust that coach offed him. As far as I know, no normal person, even coach, can attest to having seen the carcass.

If he was sick, it was full-blown AIDS.

His only saving grace was his boyfriend. There's never been a homo nickname funnier than "termite". 

 
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 05:48:36 PM
I heard that allegation second hand. So, it is questionable.

I challenge anybody to try to interfere between paypal and a customer.

It can't be done, excepting through law-enforcement via a judge or the courts.

As to Scamdy, no one involved even tried.  No one at no time contacted paypal.

This is one of those memes the primitives used--that the red round one's paypal account was frozen by the "freepers"--over and over and over again, and it's been said so often that primitives actually believe it.

It never happened, it couldn't have happened.

It's along the same line as one of the other oft-repeated lies the primitives tell; that the "freepers" compelled Johns Hopkins and the surgeons to delay, or even cancel, surgery for the red round one.  That one too's been told so many times the primitives actually believe it.

I challenge anyone to try to interfere between a physician and a patient.

Or, in this case, a "patient;" there was no operation at Johns Hopkins, nor had one ever been planned.  
Title: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2012, 05:58:43 PM

There was the case of the mysteriously always-changing news story, too.

Like nadin now, poor stupid Beth back in 2005 was a "journalist," for a San Francisco-area on-line "newspaper."

She wrote a news story about a prospective operation for the red round one, and after it was posted on that obscure on-line "newspaper," it was given to the primitives as "proof" the need (for money) was real.

Problem, however.

Poor stupid Beth wouldn't leave the article alone.

She kept editing and re-editing it several times, as late as half a year after the Scamdal had died.

Somewhere along the line, she made up quotes ostensibly from the owner of the Baltimore Orioles baseball team, and the surgeon at Johns Hopkins.

I think the damned thing was changed about six or seven times.

It's not there any more, because someone got into trouble with someone, or rather, two someones.
Title: Re: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on May 07, 2012, 03:35:23 AM
At the time of the "Scamdal", I worked at a hospital larger than John's Hopkins. Rarely if ever do checks get lost. Coded improperly? Possible. Would have never prevented the red round one from being treated. Another head fake from those who thought the "freepers" killed Andy.
Title: Re: Re: poll: where were you during the Scamdal?
Post by: franksolich on May 07, 2012, 08:08:16 AM
At the time of the "Scamdal", I worked at a hospital larger than John's Hopkins. Rarely if ever do checks get lost. Coded improperly? Possible. Would have never prevented the red round one from being treated. Another head fake from those who thought the "freepers" killed Andy.

Tell me, please, how this chronology works out:

First, poor stupid Beth told the tale of the primitives clandestinely breaking into the mail-room at Johns Hopkins during the middle of the night, to find that check.

Like sneaky cat-burglars, they were.

Then a few days later, poor stupid Beth alleged that "freepers" had gotten the red round one's paypal account "frozen."

How could there've been a check if no funds were available to purchase it?

Poor stupid Beth was obviously in some sort of time-warp here.