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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 26, 2012, 03:30:43 PM
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Oh, this is rich:
MrScorpio (50,040 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
George Zimmerman is all-American
We are a nation of immigrants and descendants of immigrants from different parts of the globe.
As such, a blurring of the color lines is only a natural outcome away from the established norms of racial and ethnic identity.
Those issues of race and ethnicity should eventually become less relevant, even if the issues of wealth and class are still tied somewhat to the older, more well defined definitions of racial identity.
As more people of non-specific racial backgrounds intermingle across familial and social confines, the degree to which any strict adherence to any specific definition would be diminished... Theoretically, of course.
However, in spite of the persistence of maintaining those older and less relevant definitions of race and identity, we must insist on classifying ourselves solely on the basis of individual national origin.
No matter our name, or race, or skin color, or the origin of our parents, we must insist on calling ourselves as nothing more than "Americans".
In a way, that should be our only racial identity.
However, the classication of those first and foremost who must change the dynamic are the people who are in the position of the majority. Namely, the almagamation of national origins identified as "white people".
In spite of the fact that class and wealth, as well as definitions of established norms are still entwined with racial and ethnic identity in this country, we need to reassess the importance of this way that we identify ourselves. For you see, demographics are quickly changing.
Who we identify as a the standard of Americaness today and in the future will look and sound nothing like what we've known in the past.
In the future, people of varied and non-specific racial and ethnic indentity, like Zimmerman will find themselves as the new "white". Except for the fact it really doesn't mean anything and has no basis in reality. It's all made up and thus anyone can be called white if we play that game.
But regardless of such a faulty assessment, we all must insist that purity is a myth. It always has been. This interchange of race and ethnicity has always been the norm. Especially in open societies of almagamation like ours.
It's time to define who we are, in spite of what we look like, as merely "American".
That's how the rest of the world looks at us.
We need to do the same for ourselves.
libodem (8,096 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. Sounds like the calm voice of reason
Well thought out and well put. Makes me a little ashamed of hatin' on Zimmerman.
We are all some delightful blend or another. That is part of what makes this a great country.
MrScorpio (50,040 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. Basically, I don't give a damn what Zimmerman's own "race" is supposed to be
What matters are his own motives and actions.
If he chose to racially profile someone and then shoot that person to death, then he's the one in the wrong here.
How he self-identifies, in spite of his own actual ethnicity is more an issue for him than it is me.
If he lives a life where he defines himself in a faulty way (i.e., anything other than solely "American"), yet insists on focusing on the definition of others (Black-American and otherwise)… To me, that makes him wrong.
It doesn't matter what he actually is, it matters what he thinks he is… And he should have been thinking of himself and of others only in terms of being "American".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002614395
Yeah, such racism is just what you'd expect from a white hispanic.
This is a delightful little technique. The sum totality of Zimmerman's guilt has been based on the fact he's white. He's white so obviously he chased down Martin and executed and he chased down Martin and executed him because he's white.
Every other argument they have is based on refuting exculpatory evidence: the denial of blood stains, the assumption that his heavy breathing was him chasing Martin instead of returning to his vehicle, the doctored audio tape. All of it is supposed to prove Zimmerman is a racist. There is no evidence--zip, zero, zilch--to affirmatively prove that Zimmerman stalked and killed Martin out of a fit of racist pique. That Martin is dead at Zimmerman's hand has never been in dispute; however, the left wants to assign motive with nothing but emotional speculation.
Why?
Because he's not black.
Now we are treated to the high dudgeon that we--and by "we" he means "not him"--are too race conscious. You who were guilty of being racist enough to kill and now guilty of not being color blind; you who chafe at Affirmative Action and school admission quotas. You who asked that the evidence be borne-out before relinquishing the Hangman's hood to Al Sharpton. You, who abviously would except health care mandates had a Caucasian Kiucinich imposed them rather than the black Barack.
You're to blame for the hyper-racial sensitivites paralyzing the nation.
Mr. heres-O thought you should know that we--and by "we" he means "you"--need to do better.
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Oh, this is rich:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002614395
Because he's not black.
MrScorpio (50,040 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. Basically, I don't give a damn what Zimmerman's own "race" is supposed to be
What matters are his own motives and actions.
If he chose to racially profile someone and then shoot that person to death, then he's the one in the wrong here.
The DUmmies are now latching onto this excuse, because Zimmerman is part black.
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I was watchin' the news yesterday afternoon and there was a law professor on that said the case against Zimmerman was so flimsy and not a prosecutable case by any definition of the word, that he said the DA oughta be arrested! He even described it as bein' a crime against America!
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I was watchin' the news yesterday afternoon and there was a law professor on that said the case against Zimmerman was so flimsy and not a prosecutable case by any definition of the word, that he said the DA oughta be arrested! He even described it as bein' a crime against America!
Was that well known lefty Alan Dershowitz?
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The DUmmies are now latching onto this excuse, because Zimmerman is part black.
They're also latching onto the edges of the "self-loathing" excuse.
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They're also latching onto the edges of the "self-loathing" excuse.
They're going to project their own self loathing onto him yet.
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I was watchin' the news yesterday afternoon and there was a law professor on that said the case against Zimmerman was so flimsy and not a prosecutable case by any definition of the word, that he said the DA oughta be arrested! He even described it as bein' a crime against America!
I hope this case goes the way of the Mike Nifong fate.
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I have always thought I was "American", that's it, that's all....now I find out from the DUmmie that I'm U-R-Pee'n-American....and the white race is doomed.
Well, that's the way it sounded to me. The sooner we white, evil U-R-Pee'n's die the better this country will be.
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Was that well known lefty Alan Dershowitz?
Didn't catch the name, but it was Faux Snooze, so it won't mean shit to a DUmbass.
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What I want to know is...
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Is THAT the best pic MrDorkio has of himself? Bent wire framed glasses?
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What I want to know is...
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Is THAT the best pic MrDorkio has of himself? Bent wire framed glasses?
Actually, it is the best picture of Lamond.
In photos without that hood, you get the full pineapple head effect.
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From some guy on Twitter:
#Zimmerman is part black #Obama is part black. If Obama had a son would he look like Zimmerman? #saysomethingniceaboutobama
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MrScorpio, boy primitive
However, in spite of the persistence of maintaining those older and less relevant definitions of race and identity, we must insist on classifying ourselves solely on the basis of individual national origin.
No matter our name, or race, or skin color, or the origin of our parents, we must insist on calling ourselves as nothing more than "Americans".
In a way, that should be our only racial identity.
However, the classication of those first and foremost who must change the dynamic are the people who are in the position of the majority. Namely, the almagamation of national origins identified as "white people".
I agree, this is rich.
Making the case that all citizens of this nation should fall under the category of "Americans" and then vainly trying to make the case that the only one's who can truly change the dynamic are "white people" completely ignores the problem altogether. There is no consideration of the point that there's many "non-whites" who falsely blame their own misfortunes upon "white people" when the probability is extremely high that race played no part. I would make the argument that until these "non-whites" overcome their knee-jerk reactions in this manner, that any attempt by "white people" to "change the dynamic" (as if its their responsibility alone) is not attainable because the "non-whites" viewpoint won't allow it.
The boy primitive's viewpoint is a prime example.
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Too late, DUmmies. Your version of this case hinges on Zimmerman being a Honkey-Ass-Cracka 1%er who was motivated by race. Now that we know he is a multi-racial Hispanic Democrat, you have once again managed to be footballed by Lucy.
You DUmmy-Ass-Primitives.