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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 26, 2012, 10:20:25 AM
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Playinghardball (2,191 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Expert warns world needs to move ‘rapidly’ toward ‘population shrinkage’
The world’s most renowned population analyst has called for a massive reduction in the number of humans and for natural resources to be redistributed from the rich to the poor.
Paul Ehrlich, Bing professor of population studies at Stanford University in California and author of the best-selling Population Bomb book in 1968, goes much further than the Royal Society in London which this morning said that physical numbers were as important as the amount of natural resources consumed.
The optimum population of Earth – enough to guarantee the minimal physical ingredients of a decent life to everyone – was 1.5 to 2 billion people rather than the 7 billion who are alive today or the 9 billion expected in 2050, said Ehrlich in an interview with the Guardian.
“How many you support depends on lifestyles. We came up with 1.5 to 2 billion because you can have big active cities and wilderness. If you want a battery chicken world where everyone has minimum space and food and everyone is kept just about alive you might be able to support in the long term about 4 or 5 billion people. But you already have 7 billion. So we have to humanely and as rapidly as possible move to population shrinkage.â€
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/26/expert-warns-world-needs-to-move-rapidly-toward-population-shrinkage/
rustydog (6,616 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. Too many people means more corporate farms to feed them, more pollution, more disease outbreaks
food wars in years of drought. privatization of water...Water wars in years of drought.
In the minds of disturbed leaders, that would encourage more wars as a population reduction tool. Of course, birth control measures would go over like a lead balloon to evangelical zealots...
NightWatcher (17,849 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. Everyone in favor of population shrinkage, take the first step
Kill yourselves and save the planet's resources.
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Taitertots (5,197 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. It is getting obvious that exponential population growth will create unacceptable problems
We can do something about it now or wait until it dramatically reduces the quality of our lives.
Remember these threads everytime you read some DU rant about how the GOP wants to kill everyone or our presumed disdain for people not like us or when you hear about the EPA wanting to randomly "crucify" US citizens so as to instill fear without regard to any real offense.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002613005
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Expert warns world needs to move ‘rapidly’ toward ‘population shrinkage’
You first.
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You first.
Weren't these the same guys 40 years ago telling us that all the world needed was...
Jackie Deshannon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMS2uMUQNnQ)
What did they think was going to happen ?
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Meanwhile, in that other thread:
TheMastersNemesis (796 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
I Love The Country But Hate Republicans And The Country They Would Produce
I love the country but I would hate the country that the GOP maggots would make it. They are a hateful evil bunch who should be extinct as a party. There is no reason the GOP should be allowed to exist in the future. The Ryan budget proves more than anything that they are the "eugenics" party. They are the racist bigoted theocratic white supremacist party who is determined to essentially murder the most vulnerable.
I would never serve in the military with a Republican. In my books they are not fellow Americans. Like I have said in the past the GOP and that ass Romney are really like public enemy number 1.
Progressives and liberals are attacked as not loving the country. The real issue is that as a progressive I will hate the country the GOP wants to produce. I would never pledge allegiance to anything the GOP wants.
There is no language on the planet that can adequately describe the evil that this GOP scum has become. GD the GOP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002612528
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That'd work just fine for DU, except for the inconvenient fact that white people don't comprise anywhere near 5/7 of the world's population. Some brown and black people are going to need to die to satisfy rich white liberal hatred of humanity.
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Weren't these the same guys 40 years ago telling us that all the world needed was...
Jackie Deshannon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMS2uMUQNnQ)
What did they think was going to happen ?
Paul Ehrlich was wrong then and he's wrong now.
Overpopulation is not the problem. Corrupt governments in third-world countries are.
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Idiots.
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That'd work just fine for DU, except for the inconvenient fact that white people don't comprise anywhere near 5/7 of the world's population. Some brown and black people are going to need to die to satisfy rich white liberal hatred of humanity.
And all those little non-white people running around also:
* Don't use solar panels
* breed prolifically
* tend to be religious
* don't have liberal arts university degrees
* would probably order red wine with fish
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Paul Ehrlich was wrong then and he's wrong now.
Overpopulation is not the problem. Corrupt governments in third-world countries are.
Yes, many conservatives have thoroughly debunked the overpopulation myth.
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Robert Heinlein, the science fiction writer, opined that the planet could support a QUADRILLION humans if it were efficiently managed, which is about a million times as much as the current population. Much of this efficiency would Obviously, that scenario would never play out.
But I myself have proven that you can put the entire population of Earth into the state of Texas, with a population density the same as the average American suburban home (2,000 sq. foot home on 4,000 sq. foot lot @ 4 people per home). The calculation did not include areas of water like lakes or eddies.
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Is this an argument for cutting of all safety net and foreign aid monies from the USA? If it is I'm all for it.
That thread is a great demonstration of why regressive-liberalism is a mental disease.
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That'd work just fine for DU, except for the inconvenient fact that white people don't comprise anywhere near 5/7 of the world's population. Some brown and black people are going to need to die to satisfy rich white liberal hatred of humanity.
The world’s most renowned population analyst has called for a massive reduction in the number of humans and for natural resources to be redistributed from the rich to the poor.
Screw that, let's just bomb all the poor people out of existence, they're the ones that are over breeding anyway.
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Is Al Gore selling "person credits" now?
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What night watcher needs to realize is that population reduction advocates are just too important. It's the other guy that needs to be "reduced". I'll give Jim Jones one thing: at least he drank the damned kool-aid, too. These population reduction punks talk a good game.
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What night watcher needs to realize is that population reduction advocates are just too important. It's the other guy that needs to be "reduced". I'll give Jim Jones one thing: at least he drank the damned kool-aid, too. These population reduction punks talk a good game.
Yeah, they should walk the talk, or borg the morgue. Let me work on that a little.
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Screw that, let's just bomb all the poor people out of existence, they're the ones that are over breeding anyway.
Ain't that the damn truth.
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We'll just have to invent the "Disintegration Booth" like in that old episode of Star Trek!!!
DUmmies get first crack!!! :tongue:
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Between plate tectonics, astrophysics, and mass casualty weapons, the problem is likely to take care of itself sooner or later.
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From SSB's 2nd thread:
Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:32 AM
RZM (5,923 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
9. Why do you even bother?
Only the most gullible will think this screed is genuine.
RZM thinks the Masturbator is a mole! :lmao: I dunno, I think he's real, and I think he and BantheGOP are capable of...something.
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Playinghardball (2,191 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Expert warns world needs to move ‘rapidly’ toward ‘population shrinkage’
The world’s most renowned population analyst has called for a massive reduction in the number of humans and for natural resources to be redistributed from the rich to the poor.
By poor, he means the entitled.
That will never work as the poor are too stupid to manage anything of value. Hell, they can't even manage themself. That's why they're poor. If the Government didn't provide for their every need, they would die.
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By poor, he means the entitled.
That will never work as the poor are too stupid to manage anything of value. Hell, they can't even manage themself. That's why they're poor. If the Government didn't provide for their every need, they would die.
Nah, it worked in Zimbabwe.
....oh....wait....
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Is Al Gore selling "person credits" now?
If he's not, maybe we can corner the market!
What night watcher needs to realize is that population reduction advocates are just too important. It's the other guy that needs to be "reduced". I'll give Jim Jones one thing: at least he drank the damned kool-aid, too. These population reduction punks talk a good game.
Actually, he didn't want to go thru the pain of poisoning, so he had one of his drones shoot him in what was left of his brain.
From SSB's 2nd thread:
RZM thinks the Masturbator is a mole! :lmao: I dunno, I think he's real, and I think he and BantheGOP are capable of...something.
Of what? Humpin' each other?
Ya know, there's about a billion Muslims that would probably agree with this guy. After all, they don't give a damn who they kill as long as they manage to take us along with their innocent victims!
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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:28 PM
backscatter712 (15,023 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. I keep coming back to the conclusion that we need to accelerate space development.
Not space exploration (not to say that space exploration isn't important)...
but space development, and space exploitation, and space colonization.
We're rapidly outgrowing this rock, and if we don't come up with a way to bring space within our reach in a cheap and reliable way, we're going to self-destruct on this rock.
I propose a terraforming colony for DUmmies exclusively on planet LV-426.
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You first.
The new shortest book ever written - "Left Wing Eugenics Advocates Who Lead By Example And Kill Themselves".
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I propose a terraforming colony for DUmmies exclusively on planet LV-426.
Nice reference. Hi5 for that one.
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TheMastersNemesis (796 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
I Love The Country But Hate Republicans And The Country They Would Produce
I love the country but I would hate the country that the GOP maggots would make it. They are a hateful evil bunch who should be extinct as a party. There is no reason the GOP should be allowed to exist in the future. The Ryan budget proves more than anything that they are the "eugenics" party. They are the racist bigoted theocratic white supremacist party who is determined to essentially murder the most vulnerable.
I would never serve in the military with a Republican. In my books they are not fellow Americans. Like I have said in the past the GOP and that ass Romney are really like public enemy number 1.
Progressives and liberals are attacked as not loving the country. The real issue is that as a progressive I will hate the country the GOP wants to produce. I would never pledge allegiance to anything the GOP wants.
There is no language on the planet that can adequately describe the evil that this GOP scum has become. GD the GOP
This sums them up perfectly. What do they hate? People that don't ascribe to their philosphy. You know what I hate about them? Not their existence or their humanity or their free speech. No, I hate a philosphy that guarantees failure and punishes any and all success or even effort.
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What night watcher needs to realize is that population reduction advocates are just too important. It's the other guy that needs to be "reduced". I'll give Jim Jones one thing: at least he drank the damned kool-aid, too. These population reduction punks talk a good game.
Sound a lot like the mullahs who recruit suicide bombers.
"You can meet 72 virgins in paradise. Me? I'll wait." :lmao:
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Sound a lot like the mullahs who recruit suicide bombers.
"You can meet 72 virgins in paradise. Me? I'll wait." :lmao:
Its a wonder why a potential suicide bomber never stops and ponders this.