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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on April 19, 2012, 08:58:50 PM
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Brigid
Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
I've seen these from time to time over the years. To make a long story short, it advertised a benefit to be held for a 16-year-old girl who's been battling bone cancer since she was 11. It's to help pay for -- you guessed it -- medical expenses.
In no other civilized country do we see this!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002585628
Such bitter miserable people at the DUmp. You should be thrilled that people are willing to help out and throw a benefit for her. I bet you don't bother to donate a single dime either.
LibDemAlways
1. I take exception to only one thing in your post.
A country that does not recognize access to health care as a basic right of its citizens and that allows the degree of homelessness and poverty that exists here and that permits the rich to grow ever richer while millions struggle to stay afloat can hardly be called "civilized."
You idiots actually believe that there is no help for the needy, when the reality is there is plenty of help both from the government and the private sector.
Sarah Ibarruri
2. Thank you for mentioning this. This sort of thing is begging. That we have to beg to get health-
care, is unconscionable.
With 0bama in charge he may just prescribe her a pain pill and call it a day.
freshwest
8. +1. Plus, they don't allow hate radio to set the people against each other.
They learned the hard way.
That darn 1st amendment seems to always get in your way doesn't it?
Brickbat
9. I live near a small town and we have one of these at least once a month. I'd rather my taxes
go up than have to keep buying $5 tickets for shitty spaghetti and for bidding on auction items I'm not going to win. Spreading the cost would be better for everyone.
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Sarah Ibarruri
2. Thank you for mentioning this. This sort of thing is begging. That we have to beg to get health-
care, is unconscionable.
No, Sarah Ibepootin, you do NOT have to beg to get healthcare. All you have to do is leave for one of the socialist/communist shit holes that you DUmboCraps worship. They should be room for you in these countries as the citizens (aka people knows the REAL joys of socialism/communism) of those countries are often trying to sneak off and move here.
Maybe we should figure out a way to work a trade. We'll give them one of you people who believe that living in hell is wonderful in exchange for one of their people who knows that hell is hell and would rather come to the promised land.
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LibDemAlways
1. I take exception to only one thing in your post.
A country that does not recognize access to health care as a basic right of its citizens and that allows the degree of homelessness and poverty that exists here and that permits the rich to grow ever richer while millions struggle to stay afloat can hardly be called "civilized."
And let me take exception to a few things in your post.
--Ever been to Europe? Ever seen homeless there? Pretty ****ing sad, really. Oh, and how about that nice warm summer they had in France a few years back? How many old people roasted to death there in a matter of a few weeks? What was it, something like 15,000?
--Ever seen what REAL poverty looks like? I'm not talking the "poor" in this country that can have only ONE big-screen HDTV, or ONE cell phone with free minutes, or food out the wazoo just for the taking off the EBT card. Even the most impoverished folks in this nation have it all over some of the shitholes I've seen in my day. That includes some of your so-called "progressive" paradises.
--Since when is ACCESS to healthcare ever been denied? Oh wait--that's Canada and England you must be talking about.
Take your "civility" and shove it up your ass.
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The depressing part is that a 16 year old has cancer, not that people are trying to raise money for her. Only a liberal could take someone elses misfortune and turn it into a selfish political statement.
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We need to nationalize funeral expenses then too. When a tragedy hits a family, they usually set up a bank account for donations to help pay for the funeral. How sad that in America, people have to pay for funerals of their loved ones. ::)
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We need to nationalize funeral expenses then too. When a tragedy hits a family, they usually set up a bank account for donations to help pay for the funeral. How sad that in America, people have to pay for funerals of their loved ones. ::)
Oh, you, you know it's much more important to nationalize Bar Mitzvahs.
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Brickbat
9. I live near a small town and we have one of these at least once a month. I'd rather my taxes
go up than have to keep buying $5 tickets for shitty spaghetti and for bidding on auction items I'm not going to win. Spreading the cost would be better for everyone.
Why don't you just donate and not expect anything in return?
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Quote from...Brickbat
"9. I live near a small town and we have one of these at least once a month. I'd rather my taxes
go up than have to keep buying $5 tickets for shitty spaghetti "
These guys really need our meatless beef recipes.
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Do they not know people die of cancer in nations WITH socialized medicine, all the time? Do they not also know that when the rich in those nations get cancer, they come here to places like Mayo, Johns Hopkins, or Emory? Are they REALLY this f'n retarded? NM, rhetorical.
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We need to nationalize funeral expenses then too. When a tragedy hits a family, they usually set up a bank account for donations to help pay for the funeral. How sad that in America, people have to pay for funerals of their loved ones. ::)
That gives me an idea. The folks on Red Eye are auctioning off art to help with the Breitbart Children's Fund. What if DUmpmonkeys had to help Breitbart's kids?
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That gives me an idea. The folks on Red Eye are auctioning off art to help with the Breitbart Children's Fund. What if DUmpmonkeys had to help Breitbart's kids?
That's just it. They think they will get it but in reality only a few will and it's going to hurt everyone. Left and right.
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When have DUmpmokies ever created a charity to help anyone? They deal in emotion, hands, healing white light, and ghost chickens. If your best bet, as a sick person, is to rely on DU, you should place your head firmly between your legs and kiss you ass goodbye. They don't do that. They think the government should handle everything because they're so Damn stupid they think the government has an endless supply of wealth.
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A girl with bone cancer you say?
With Obama care she would still be squeezed out of the system and allowed to die.
Why would Obamacare do that? Because cancer is expensive. Cheaper to let a child die. That, ladies and gentlemen is our fate under Obamacare.
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But see, in Obama paradise, they never have to be generous with their money. Only yours.
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Brickbat
9. I live near a small town and we have one of these at least once a month. I'd rather my taxes
go up than have to keep buying $5 tickets for shitty spaghetti and for bidding on auction items I'm not going to win. Spreading the cost would be better for everyone.
In the first place, if you expect to win the items you are bidding on, maybe you should play the lottery instead. The idea of bidding on "stuff you're not going to win" and "shitty spaghetti" is to RAISE MONEY, DUmmie Brickmoonbatshitcrazy. I guarantee more money went to helping those people than FIVE TIMES THAT AMOUNT in taxes.
Other than that, GO TO HELL!
Also, go to http://www.electstevedawes.com
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But see, in Obama paradise, they never have to be generous with their money. Only yours.
I'm surprised crazy Sarah isn't demanding free food for all.
After all, groceries are expensive, and they're a basic human need.
Or maybe crazy Sarah has.
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The depressing part is that a 16 year old has cancer, not that people are trying to raise money for her. Only a liberal could take someone elses misfortune and turn it into a selfish political statement.
Truer words never spoken.
The DUmbasses post a thread like this on a regular basis. They get pissed off about those jars at the cash register of convenience stores to benefit some area family who's fallen on misfortune. They get huffed up and post outraged threads, making themselves look incredibly petty and cheap; probably not the effect they were going for.
We have these benefits here all the time. They're very successful, people come out in droves. See, DUmmies, you get about 4-500 people together, who bring their cash and returnables, you get businesses to donate prizes, and you set up a good time, you can raise well over $10,000. The people in trouble get some relief, and the attendees have fun. More fun than taxes, but what do you know about that?
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that permits the rich to grow ever richer while millions struggle to stay afloat can hardly be called "civilized."
anyone catch that?
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anyone catch that?
Supports what I say about it always being easy for dictatorships and banana republics to be set up by the equivalent of a snake oil salesman among leftists.
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Brickbat
9. I live near a small town and we have one of these at least once a month. I'd rather my taxes
go up than have to keep buying $5 tickets for shitty spaghetti and for bidding on auction items I'm not going to win. Spreading the cost would be better for everyone.
YOU ****IN JERKOFF ASS ****IN DOUCHENOZZLE SON OF A BITCHED DICK HEADED SLUG OF THE ****IN EARTH. IF I COULD REACH THROUGH A COMPUTER SCREEN AND BEAT SOMEONE TO A PULP, IT WOULD BE YOU. YOU ****IN SELFISH ****TARDED DICK SUCKING MOTHER ****ER!!
YOU ****IN DOUCHENOZZLE ASS ****ERS ARE ALL AGAINST ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T ENTAIL YOU TO GET YOUR ****IN DAILY HANDOUT. YOU ****TARDS ARE THE BIGGEST WASTE THIS LAND HAS EVER ****IN SEEN. YOU ****TARDS ARE NOTHING BUT A TURD THAT I WOULD LOVE TO FLUSH DOWN MY ****IN TOILET. YOU ****TARDS ARE NOTHING BUT ASS ****IN BIGOTS!!
Sorry for the rant, but I have a cousin who is 11 and has cancer. My family is going through the same thing that poor, brave, girls family is going through. Listening to people like ****tard Brickbat piss me off royally. People like him don't deserve to breath the same air as us civilized and kind people. These ****tards have no compassion for anyone because they are too busy trying to sponge off the people of this country. They would rather we full under a dictator socialist and put a child on a medical system that would surely see him die than help him in the process. What a bunch of ****tards.
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Do dummies not have google on their internets? We have fundraisers for medical treatment all the time here. Dummies would do well to remember that health care is rationed either by price or time, so of course people who live in a country with government health care will want faster/better/otherwise unavailable treatment at times. 10 second on google found this: ...James's condition is deteriorating and his wife, four children and two grandchildren held the event last Saturday in a bid to raise 10,000 as they has found a clinic in California in the USA offering ground-breaking treatment. The money is needed to pay for a 10-week course of treatment and flights and accommodation for James, his wife Liz and their youngest daughter. ... (http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/local-news/fundraiser-for-treatment-for-james-1-1412580)
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Bijou, on a similar past thread about these functions, some Brit DUmmy sniffed, "we don't have such things in Great Britain."
I simply don't understand why the DUmmies get so worked up. NY lets us gamble at them, so if you set up a casino night at the Legion, say, and add in a bunch of other games & activities, the ladies set out a buffet of food, let the drinks flow, TONS of cash is raised. And the people in trouble feel A LOT of LOVE from their community. What's not to like? You're sick as a dog, panicked about money on top of that, and you see 500 people come out for you? That's got to feel good. Better than everyone bitching about their taxes being jacked up.
Oh and BTW Brickbat, we have a huge contingent of Italians here. Our spaghetti isn't "shitty." The food is AWESOME.
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But the libs denied that "Death Panels" existed. I guess it's just impossible for libs to tell the truth.
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Did her parents fail to provide health insurance for her?
If so, she still has my sympathy and I hope she does well.
Many health insurance policies only have partial payments. For example, ours, we have to pay $2,000 out of pocket before insurance kicks in. She may have a similar situation, and a fund raiser sounds like a kind thing to do.
But it is hardly an indictment of the U.S.
In most countries in this world she'd be far worse off - perhaps in all other countries, I don't know. I'd rather come down with cancer here than any other country I know of.
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Bijou, on a similar past thread about these functions, some Brit DUmmy sniffed, "we don't have such things in Great Britain."
That's right.
In Britain and other eurotrash countries, you can die while on the waiting list for your "free" surgery.
Of course, eurotrash nationals who can afford it escape to American hospitals.
Here, you get treated first, then work out the payment schedule.
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The poor child has been battling cancer for years. I'm pretty sure they have health insurance (note, not care). I'll bet that they have exhausted the maximum benefits.
DUmmies, why not tackle the issue of the actual cost of medical care? Hell, my poor father had to get $7000 a month shots/pills (Revlimid) so he could live another 18 months. He was able to find a group (oh my, a CHAIRITY) that paid for it 100%.
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The poor child has been battling cancer for years. I'm pretty sure they have health insurance (note, not care). I'll bet that they have exhausted the maximum benefits.
DUmmies, why not tackle the issue of the actual cost of medical care? Hell, my poor father had to get $7000 a month shots/pills (Revlimid) so he could live another 18 months. He was able to find a group (oh my, a CHAIRITY) that paid for it 100%.
NUTS, my daughter has managed to stay alive needing a transplant for her liver for 5 years. We are getting close to loosing her ,now she is on O2, 24/ 7. Finally she found through her Doctors a program in Boston that as a last ditch effort would at no cost to her, try to fix her if she agrees to become a Ginnie pig. Yup, she has nothing to loose at this point and medical science has every thing to gain.
Naturally her husbands health insurance will not pay for experimental treatment so why not, if she dies perhaps science Will learn something from all this and save the lives of others in the future. Her life expediency is at 3-6 months at this time, if the experiments work she could have another 4-5 years of life or more. If they fail, she will only loose 2-3 weeks of her very uncomfortable life.
It has taken me years to come to terms that my daughter was dieing, if the situation were reversed, she would be the first to encourage me to GO FOR IT.
This is America and one has to keep looking for any kind of help they can get. We have Charity's up the ying yang, blood drives, and the bone marrow donors, complete strangers willing to give up a kidney to help someone to live.
Few country's have the number of people by percentages that dig deep into their wallets to help not just our people but to send medical help to people over seas, to friends or enemy's. We feed, cloth and at times give up our lives to help others, America is fueled with the Christian example.
God Blessed America and in return America has given blood, sweat, tears to help out the rest of the world.
I wonder if there are soup kitchens in Kenya, food stamps in Indonesia, housing for the aged in India. Do the prisoners in Turkey have TV, 3 hots a day, air conditioning ??? Egypt is the place I wish that smart ass poster could be set down in with just his clothing and $100 in their pocket.
BTW this poster has to be a mole, there to cause the dump, and us, to react to their insane post that even a serial killer would be ashamed of.
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Did her parents fail to provide health insurance for her?
If so, she still has my sympathy and I hope she does well.
Many health insurance policies only have partial payments. For example, ours, we have to pay $2,000 out of pocket before insurance kicks in. She may have a similar situation, and a fund raiser sounds like a kind thing to do.
But it is hardly an indictment of the U.S.
In most countries in this world she'd be far worse off - perhaps in all other countries, I don't know. I'd rather come down with cancer here than any other country I know of.
Oh, it's an indictment alright. An indictment on heavy regulations, no tort reform or loser pay system, on predatory attorneys, and not allowing the Capitalist free market to work its magic to provide the consumer the best product at a reasonable rate. Read up on corrective eye surgery and how much it was as opposed to how much it is now. We need the government OUT of it, not more government red tape.
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Quote from...Brickbat
"9. I live near a small town and we have one of these at least once a month. I'd rather my taxes
go up than have to keep buying $5 tickets for shitty spaghetti "
These guys really need our meatless beef recipes.
I see what you did there. H5. :rofl:
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I see what you did there. H5. :rofl:
Thanks, I try in quantity when quality isn't cutting it.
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NUTS, my daughter has managed to stay alive needing a transplant for her liver for 5 years. We are getting close to loosing her ,now she is on O2, 24/ 7. Finally she found through her Doctors a program in Boston that as a last ditch effort would at no cost to her, try to fix her if she agrees to become a Ginnie pig. Yup, she has nothing to loose at this point and medical science has every thing to gain.
I'm so sorry, Vesta. I'll pray for her. Do you have a PayPal account set up for her? I'll donate as I'm sure many others will. Why have you never mentioned this? :-(
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As usual they assume everything will be paid for. Check those socialist health care nations. They don't pay for procedures that have very little chance of success because it's NOT financially prudent. The line has to be drawn somewhere. I bet people in those countries being used to "someone else" paying for everything, don't have as many donation cans for seriously ill people. Sometimes donations are taken, not necessarily for treatment but to help them travel to far away medical facilities and/or to provide funds so the families can stay with them. Sometimes they are for experimental treatments not paid for by insurance (and no guarantee they'd be paid by the government either). Here in OR the Oregon Health Plan does not pay for any kind of advanced cancer treatment but they WILL pay for assisted suicide. Even if the doctor recommends chemo simply to make the patient more comfortable, OHP won't cover it. So basically the state will pay you to die but not to live.
Cindie
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Dr 0bama would tell her she would be better off taking a pill and leaving the resources for healthy people.
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Do dummies not have google on their internets? We have fundraisers for medical treatment all the time here. Dummies would do well to remember that health care is rationed either by price or time, so of course people who live in a country with government health care will want faster/better/otherwise unavailable treatment at times. 10 second on google found this: ...James's condition is deteriorating and his wife, four children and two grandchildren held the event last Saturday in a bid to raise 10,000 as they has found a clinic in California in the USA offering ground-breaking treatment. The money is needed to pay for a 10-week course of treatment and flights and accommodation for James, his wife Liz and their youngest daughter. ... (http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/local-news/fundraiser-for-treatment-for-james-1-1412580)
No WAY! Not possible!! Free Healthcare for all guarantees that we all live forever!!! :lalala: :stoner: :lalala: :stoner: :lalala: :stoner: [/DUmp]
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NUTS, my daughter has managed to stay alive needing a transplant for her liver for 5 years. We are getting close to loosing her ,now she is on O2, 24/ 7. Finally she found through her Doctors a program in Boston that as a last ditch effort would at no cost to her, try to fix her if she agrees to become a Ginnie pig. Yup, she has nothing to loose at this point and medical science has every thing to gain.
Naturally her husbands health insurance will not pay for experimental treatment so why not, if she dies perhaps science Will learn something from all this and save the lives of others in the future. Her life expediency is at 3-6 months at this time, if the experiments work she could have another 4-5 years of life or more. If they fail, she will only loose 2-3 weeks of her very uncomfortable life.
It has taken me years to come to terms that my daughter was dieing, if the situation were reversed, she would be the first to encourage me to GO FOR IT.
Set up a fund, vesta! I also believe many will help!
This is America and one has to keep looking for any kind of help they can get. We have Charity's up the ying yang, blood drives, and the bone marrow donors, complete strangers willing to give up a kidney to help someone to live.
Few country's have the number of people by percentages that dig deep into their wallets to help not just our people but to send medical help to people over seas, to friends or enemy's. We feed, cloth and at times give up our lives to help others, America is fueled with the Christian example.
God Blessed America and in return America has given blood, sweat, tears to help out the rest of the world.
I wonder if there are soup kitchens in Kenya, food stamps in Indonesia, housing for the aged in India. Do the prisoners in Turkey have TV, 3 hots a day, air conditioning ??? Egypt is the place I wish that smart ass poster could be set down in with just his clothing and $100 in their pocket.
^5 :clap:
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NUTS, my daughter has managed to stay alive needing a transplant for her liver for 5 years. We are getting close to loosing her ,now she is on O2, 24/ 7. Finally she found through her Doctors a program in Boston that as a last ditch effort would at no cost to her, try to fix her if she agrees to become a Ginnie pig. Yup, she has nothing to loose at this point and medical science has every thing to gain.
Vesta,
May God bless your daughter, you, and your family, and give you strength.
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^Ditto !
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I'm so sorry, Vesta. I'll pray for her. Do you have a PayPal account set up for her? I'll donate as I'm sure many others will. Why have you never mentioned this? :-(
No way, Rebel, she has a better chance getting care as an indigent patient then one that has money in the bank.
I have mentioned this years ago on the forum but never expected anyone to do more then Pray for her.
Strange as it seems the Ginni pigs get better care then the paying Patients. Each one becomes a record and perhaps a page in the medical journals. Paying patients are not tracked and the G. pigs are constantly under observation.
We have had many conversations on this and we both agree that to go into experimental surgery is the way to go.
The Doctors will monitor her more then a paying patient, call in more experts to help if they find a problem and
think out side the box.
If I could raise the money some how to pay main stream doctors to help her, she would get the care that is normal every day. With her going into the experimental process, instead of one or two doctors doing their job as they were taught 20 years ago, my daughter will have the benefit of hundreds of doctors watching her and her progress.
Thank you Rebel for your Post, we have to make decisions in life and live with them. Some times when Charity is involved all one can do to pay back is to to get all friends and family down and donate to the blood bank.
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Be assured of my prayers, vesta.