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TheMastersNemesis
It's Looking More And More Like The Recession Was A Deliberate Set Up By GOP
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Hey workers be glad for the $10 an hour job you have just gotten. It's better then no job at all. That's the new meme coming from RW'ingers and the GOP. That is the latest new little ditty coming from the right during this recovery. And I am beginning to believe that the near depression was a set up to wipe out as many higher paying jobs as possible starting in late 2006.
Bush and his team knew that we were losing jobs by mid 2006 but decided to cover it up and ride it out. They wanted to make sure the economy tanked right after November 2008 so the next President would be blamed for the crash. It played both ways, it gave big business the opportunity to dump all these high paid and older employees. They could blame the "economic cycle" for all the carnage.
They could also blow up the deficit even further so they could end Medicaid, Social Security and Medicare as well as dump the entire safety net. They could rail about the deficit spending needed to save the economy if the Democrats were in power. Then they could resist all efforts to recover and allow corporations to bring jobs back at $10 an hour. People would be so desperate that they would be grateful for these jobs.
With the help of the media the GOP could then yell and scream that over regulation was killing good job and stopping prosperity. They could attack the long term unemployed and poor as slackers and leeches trying to bring down the rich. The could then pump the poor for more money for the rich. They could claim that the poor were waging war against "success". That the poor should not vote because they would raise taxes.
Bush and the GOP would put Obama in a box by bailing out the banks, force him to continue because that would be his only option left. And when he did it blame him for the bailing and bonus by stopping needed anti bonus legislation. They were forced to save the banks first because the economy crashed during the election.
And in the process the GOP and it allies could trash Europe as well by all the derivatives they allowed US Banks to fraudulently sell them. We did not need the example of "socialist Europe" for the American public to look to.
When you look at how the GOP is operating now it seems more obvious that they planned the whole thing all along. And the American worker can now look forward to $10 an hour as the "new norm".
And then they could paint the recession was an "Obama recession" that all the jobs were lost on his watch while the recession continued for months into his administration.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002573427
Wow do the DUmmies ever bother to think before they hit post?
So now the biggest idiot ever, George W Bush, was able to pull this over on the smartest president ever. :lmao:
Tippy
43. It's up to each and every one of US to carry this message
Who is willing to help?
I'm doing my part to shine the light on this brilliant theory. :rotf:
TheMastersNemesis
8. By Mid 2006 Things Were Obvious
By 2006 it was obvious that something was going on. There are a lot a of things about the labor stats that are not immediately obvious that the public would not see. For one Bush and his administration eliminated the "mass layoff" report from the national data. So even though you could show job increases there was no information about layoffs. The media and the corporations were hiding how many they were laying off. The other factor was the continuing massive and unreported outsourcing. The other factor was that we were getting over 100,000 per month in new immigration. There was a lot of jobs being converted to contract labor. Workers being downgraded in their jobs were still being reported as employed.
Housing prices were rising too fast and people were borrowing to guy real estate they could turn over. Plus I noticed that loans were being just passed on. And it looked like paper was being passed on and commissions were being paid on the higher value of the housing.
When I read the business section of the papers I could see the labor picture being glossed over.
The Bush administration ignored and covered up a lot of things. The patterns that I was seeing in labor had been going on for years and nothing had changed since I left the labor department.
So the guy who put up the tin foil hat picture can believe what he wants. He is probably a troll. At least the cat is cute.
:mental:
NNN0LHI
23. I get nervous when I see someone who is older than me suggesting this all began in "late 2006"
Might have all began for a lot of people about then, but it sure as heck didn't start for me then. More like 1981 for me. Reagan convinced people that being anti-union was cool. About the same time everyone's wages and benefits froze in place or declined.
I have a neighbor who always complains that the best jobs his sons can find is $10 an hour. This fellow has had two newer imported cars in his garage for over 20 years since he moved out here. Now he can't figure out why wages are so low. Its a mystery to him.
This much damage could not have been done in 6 years.
Don
Grouchy old Don sets them straight, it is all Reagan's fault.
Dont call me Shirley
71. Bush appeared to be dumb, part of his schtick. He is actually a criminal genius
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along with his whole extended family, psychopathic geniuses; a very scary combo.
Ohh I see Bush is really a genius he just made the DUmmies think he was stupid.
kentuck
67. I always thought Bush was very lucky in that he was leaving as it was crashing...
What if it had happened two years before? What would Dubya and the Republicans have done? A stroke of luck for them that Obama was coming into the mess.
Let's think this through, the economy was doing okay up until around 2007 and 2008. Bush was still in the White House, but who had the House and Senate?
Nah the democrats being in power couldn't possibly have had a thing to do with it, it's all Chimpy's fault, who turns out not to be a huge moron but a super genius that outsmarted the sooper geniuses of DU by making them think he was a dunce. And one must get up pretty early in the afternoon to fool the geniuses of DU. :lmao:
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The recession may have been a set up, but the DUmmies have the wrong perpetrators as usual. The whole problem was the house of cards that was built on DemonRat policies collapsed.
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Nothing is ever the fault of their party which had the power in 2006 and started spending like mad. Yes, this is why your calls stupid and rightfully so.
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Nothing is ever the fault of their party which had the power in 2006 and started spending like mad. Yes, this is why your calls stupid and rightfully so.
I guess what happened is the repukes ****ed everything up so bad from 2001 to 2007 that even the great Pelosi and 0bama couldn't fix it. The democrats have only had control of most of the government for 4 years now. :-)
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So we forced Obama to spend more in 3 years then every President combined?
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kentuck
67. I always thought Bush was very lucky in that he was leaving as it was crashing...
What if it had happened two years before? What would Dubya and the Republicans have done? A stroke of luck for them that Obama was coming into the mess.
The crash? I often wonder if Soros had anything to do with it to get Obama elected, heck, I can't find out if Soros lost or made money on it.
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So, if the GOP can grow or contract the economy at will and the democrats are powerless to do otherwise...
...why would we vote democrat?
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The crash? I often wonder if Soros had anything to do with it to get Obama elected, heck, I can't find out if Soros lost or made money on it.
There has been speculation as to If Soros after cashing out on the Euro was going to bet against the US Dollar next. Yes it would be interesting to see where he put his money next. trouble is he operates behind so many front companies it would take literally a room full of Investment analysts untold time to follow any sort of paper trail.
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Nothing is ever the fault of their party which had the power in 2006 and started spending like mad. Yes, this is why your calls stupid and rightfully so.
They didn't have control in '06, but the economy was roaring along during that time. Unemployment was very low. The economy started tanking Oct-Nov of '07, when Dims had controlled Congress since January.
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The state of the economy was well know to owebuma. He politicized it to be one of the worst ever.
Then he used that con to beg the American people for the job of President so that he would be able to fix the economy while restoring the climate, and causing the rising sea levels to recede.
He wanted it, he begged for it, he got it.
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I blame it all on FDR.
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So, if the GOP can grow or contract the economy at will and the democrats are powerless to do otherwise...
...why would we vote democrat?
Exactly. Why waste time with powerless amateurs? We would vote GOP and get them to grow the economy.
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I remember the democrats (specifically Pelosi) talking the economy down WAY before 2008, self fulfilling prophecy.
Look at the hypocrite and gas prices. What was the price when Obama took office DUmmies? What is it now? What will it be come November?
[youtube=425,350]tbzzeuYJteY[/youtube]
What happened to this DEMOCRATIC ACTION on gas prices DUmmies? Pelosi claimed they fixed it all in the first 100 hours of her taking over. Why does Obama have to do anything? Pelosi claimed the Dems already did what Obama says he is going to do.
Nancy Pelosi Press Release on August 1, 2003. Where Are the Jobs, Mr. President?
Washington, D.C. -- House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement today on the Bureau of Labor Statistics' announcement that 470,000 people abandoned their job searches in July and that 3.2 million private sector jobs have been lost since President Bush took office:
"The fact is that President Bush’s misguided economic policies have failed to create jobs. Since President Bush took office, the country has lost 3.2 million jobs, the worst record since President Hoover. And today we learned that in July nearly half a million people gave up looking for a job.
"Job losses are taking a real toll on the financial security of American families. While Democrats are fighting for opportunity, jobs, and economic security for working families, Republicans continue to focus on helping those who need help the least.
"According to today’s survey, while the national unemployment rate dropped slightly, it still stands at a near record high. In addition, the unemployment rate for African Americans was still over 11 percent in July (it is currently around 16%), and the unemployment rate for Hispanics was 8.2 percent in July. (currently around 11%)
"It is time for President Bush and the Republicans to get to work for all Americans, not just the elite few." (same old tired line..)
At the time of the Shrew's comments, we had had the market crash of 2000 (Clinton tech bubble burst), 9-11 and the cost of going to war. I know...I know, those aren't serious US job killers like bank ATM's, Kiosks (remember that one from way back when?), Arab Spring uprising, Japan's tsunami and nuclear disaster, floods, tornadoes...
In August 2003when Pelosi was running around like this --> :panic: , the Unemployment Rate was 6.1%.
August 2004 5.4%
August 2005 4.9%
August 2006 4.7%
August 2007 4.9%
Unemployment steadily went up from there. What does 2007 have in common with democrats? It was the year they took over the house and senate.
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I remember the Dems all in lock step claiming that Bush was presiding over the "worst economy since the Great Depression" while gas was under 2 bucks, and UE was under 5%.
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I remember the Dems all in lock step claiming that Bush was presiding over the "worst economy since the Great Depression" while gas was under 2 bucks, and UE was under 5%.
Yes, it is worse than that now and the economy is booming. The hypocrites lie all the time.
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I remember the videos of the Republicans telling Barney Frank and the Dems something had to be done about the housing mess before the bubble popped and they said it will never happen. I will have to find them.
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Ahhh yes, this is from 2004. Well before the bust.
Maxine Waters denies there is any issue.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ohyu7-b7F8[/youtube]
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I think if the OP of that thread would only go to www.electstevedawes.com they would see where it all began
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If I had any doubts that the DUmpmonkiees are delusional it now utterly comfirmed that they are.
To any DUmpsters reading this, you "people" are the biggest ****ing idiots that take up breathing space.
FOAD
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It's Looking More And More Like The Recession Was A Deliberate Set Up By GOP
Alright...Which one of you clowns left Lord Roves "Recession Generator" on?
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002573427
Wow do the DUmmies ever bother to think before they hit post?
So now the biggest idiot ever, George W Bush, was able to pull this over on the smartest president ever. :lmao:
I'm doing my part to shine the light on this brilliant theory. :rotf:
:mental:
Grouchy old Don sets them straight, it is all Reagan's fault.
Ohh I see Bush is really a genius he just made the DUmmies think he was stupid.
Let's think this through, the economy was doing okay up until around 2007 and 2008. Bush was still in the White House, but who had the House and Senate?
Nah the democrats being in power couldn't possibly have had a thing to do with it, it's all Chimpy's fault, who turns out not to be a huge moron but a super genius that outsmarted the sooper geniuses of DU by making them think he was a dunce. And one must get up pretty early in the afternoon to fool the geniuses of DU. :lmao:
I came close to posting this last night but I began to have doubts about the motive of Master Nemesis, suspecting a mole or mole trap based on the low post count.
I noted they dragged out all the usual suspects including Bush, Reagan, and even Nixon. The level of ignorance at the DUmp is stupifying at best.
As BEG points out there is ample evidence of the dims DUmping the economy. Lets start with Chuck-U-Schumer causing a bank run and failure. Nice work Chuck-U. Or the problems created by Friend of Anzio Chris Dodd and Barney-let me be-Frank (who at one point was involved with a Federal housing official in an other than official capacity). <cringe>
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Low-count posters making outlandish, crazy, or vulgar posts against the opposition make themselves look like obvious moles, whether on a moonbat board, or one for real Americans.
Objective is to make the board look like a bunch of nuts.
This Master Nemesis is an example of one on a moonbat board.
It's also easy to find examples of the other type.
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Low-count posters making outlandish, crazy, or vulgar posts against the opposition make themselves look like obvious moles, whether on a moonbat board, or one for real Americans.
Objective is to make the board look like a bunch of nuts.
This Master Nemesis is an example of one on a moonbat board.
It's also easy to find examples of the other type.
I was looking at post counts as I went through that thread and couldn't help wonder. I figure the poster who used 'dim' was also gone as a troll or mole, the alert buttons were pushed all across DUmp DUmb on that post. :hammer:
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The key to really building hate, distrust and discontent is getting them all paranoid that everyone suspects everyone else is a mole. Wherever there is morale, it must be suppressed.
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Passing that minimum wage bill was the beginning of the beginning of the economic downturn.
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They didn't have control in '06, but the economy was roaring along during that time. Unemployment was very low. The economy started tanking Oct-Nov of '07, when Dims had controlled Congress since January.
I remember Bwarney Fwank tellin' the Repub Senators there wasn't a damn thing wrong with Fannie and Freddy at a financial hearing on the housing market!
The Dems put the kabash on "W" and the Repubs tryin' to reign them in! The Repubs saw it was a fallin' off a cliff, and Reid, Pelosi, Frank, and Dodd just went ahead and pushed it off!
Tell me again DUmbasses how the Repubs sank the economy! Idiots! Facts are like garlic is to a vampire to you morons!
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An excellent older article on the Contrived Crisis from the Canadian Free Press. To those intested in this subject it is an excellent primer. Lurking DUmmies are advise not to go to the link as it contains truth, will burn your eyes, and, cause hair to grow on your palms.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8713
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Through a series of supposedly random but arguably deliberate chain of events, America is poised to jettison 220 years of a free market system called capitalism, in favor of the tried and failed system of socialism. This writer, and others, are now starting to question how we reached this point.
Last summer, as McCain and Obama were in the midst of their campaigns to capture the presidency, a series of events dramatically changed the focus of the campaign from Iraq to the economy. From that point on, Obama took the lead and eventually won the presidency.
June 26, 2008: Democrat Chuck Schumer leaked a memo questioning the solvency of IndyMac bank. This memo precipitated a run on IndyMac which led to its failure. Federal regulators pointedly cited U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., in explaining the bank’s failure. “The immediate cause of the closing was a deposit run that began and continued after the public release of a June 26 letter to the OTS and the FDIC from Senator Charles Schumer of New York.â€
This event, coupled with the Lehman Brothers collapse in September, marked the beginning of the current economic meltdown and provided the ammunition for massive government intervention in the private market.
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I remember Bwarney Fwank tellin' the Repub Senators there wasn't a damn thing wrong with Fannie and Freddy at a financial hearing on the housing market!
The Dems put the kabash on "W" and the Repubs tryin' to reign them in! The Repubs saw it was a fallin' off a cliff, and Reid, Pelosi, Frank, and Dodd just went ahead and pushed it off!
Tell me again DUmbasses how the Repubs sank the economy! Idiots! Facts are like garlic is to a vampire to you morons!
Yes, I posted the video of such exchanges a few post up.
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Gee DUmmies how do you reconscile this little tid bit:
Sept. 15, 2008: Obama and McCain are virtually tied in their race for the presidency. Out of no-where, in the space of less than 2 hours, the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the U.S. to the tune of $550 billion. Rep. Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania said that if authorities had not closed the banks, $5.5 trillion would have been withdrawn from US banks, which would have caused the collapse of the US within 24 hours.
This seminal event marked the ascendancy of Obama’s candidacy, and eventually resulted in his election as president.
I guess this should make you wonder who could [would] do such a thing?? <cough, cough, George Soros, cough, cough>