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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gina on April 17, 2012, 10:41:47 AM
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A pair of twin girls may have come from the womb of a Chicago native, but in the eyes of the government, they are children without a country.
Ellie Lavi, an American citizen living in Israel, wanted her children to be American as well, despite the fact that they were born in Israel. But her twin daughters, Maya and Shira, now 2 ½ years old, are unable to gain status as U.S. citizens. Lavi, a single mother in her 40s, used a donor sperm and egg from a clinic in Israel to conceive her children through in-vitro fertilization. Now, the U.S. State Department is refusing to grant citizenship to her children because she is unable to prove that any of the donors are American citizens.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47073090/ns/today-today_news/#.T42OYuzs_Gg
Interesting............. even though they are anoymous sperm donors there has to be some record of them like sperm vial 23423545 matches Johnny Reb ya know :???:
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the U.S. State Department is refusing to grant citizenship to her children because she is unable to prove that any of the donors are American citizens.
Neither was Obama's dad. :popcorn:
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WTF? I've never heard that both parents had to be US citizens when the kid is born in a forum country. What about children of US service members when the other parent is a native to whatever country the service member is in?
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Neither was Obama's dad. :popcorn:
Yeah, if that is the case, how is Obama a citizen then? :popcorn:
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WTF? I've never heard that both parents had to be US citizens when the kid is born in a forum country. What about children of US service members when the other parent is a native to whatever country the service member is in?
Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] Nationals and Citizens of The United States At Birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom
are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one
of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of
parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of
such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or
periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen
years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or
periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as
that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22
U.S.C. 288) by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically
present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a
person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the
United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the
International Organizations Immunities Act, may be included in order to satisfy the
physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born
on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form
on that date;
Sec. 309. [8 U.S.C. 1409] – Children Born Out of Wedlock
(a) The provisions of paragraphs (c), (d), (e), and (g) of section 301, and of paragraph (2) of section
308, shall apply as of the date of birth to a person born out of wedlock if (1) a blood relationship between the person and the father is established by clear and convincing evidence,
(2) the father had the nationality of the United States at the time of the person's birth,
(3) the father (unless deceased) has agreed in writing to provide financial support for the person until
the person reaches the age of 18 years, and
(4) while the person is under the age of 18 years-
(A) the person is legitimated under the law of the person's residence or domicile,
(B) the father acknowledges paternity of the person in writing under oath, or
(C) the paternity of the person is established by adjudication of a competent court.
(b) Except as otherwise provided in section 405, the provisions of section 301(g) shall apply to a
child born out of wedlock on or after January 13, 1941, and before December 24, 1952, as of the
date of birth, if the paternity of such child is established at any time while such child is under the age
of twenty-one years by legitimation.
(c) Notwithstanding the provision of subsection (a) of this section, a person born, after December
23, 1952, outside the United States and out of wedlock shall be held to have acquired at birth the
nationality status of his mother, if the mother had the nationality of the United States at the time of
such person's birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or
one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.
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Something else to add to this: What about the people to waltz into this country from Mexico and have their kids on our land? Neither of those parents are citizens, but the kid becomes one.
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Something else to add to this: What about the people to waltz into this country from Mexico and have their kids on our land? Neither of those parents are citizens, but the kid becomes one.
14th Amendment to the Constitution:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv
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14th Amendment to the Constitution:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv
It makes no sense to be like that. It is helping one but not the other. It is total bullshit. They need to remove section one from the 14 amendment.
and according to section three: How is John Kerry a senator? Did he not give comfort to Vietnam after the war?
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14th Amendment to the Constitution:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv
It's been argued that the 14th was added to make the children of former slaves be accepted as citizens.
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Anchor babies. One of the strongest footholds an illegal alien can get. No compunction against using their babies as weapons in an immigration war.
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It's been argued that the 14th was added to make the children of former slaves be accepted as citizens.
Slavery has been gone for over a century, so it may be time to abolish the 14th amendment?
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It's been argued that the 14th was added to make the children of former slaves be accepted as citizens.
Well, regardless of how/when/for what the 14th was added, it's there and it's a part of COTUS.
I'd personally LOVE to see the anchor baby provision in it thrown out, if not the entire Amendment. Hell, Prohibition came about as a result of the 18th Amendment and went away when the 21st Amendment was ratified. It can be done. :cheersmate:
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This thread could lead to a vas deferens in opinions. But that's where dem sperm comes from.
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This thread could lead to a vas deferens in opinions. But that's where dem sperm comes from.
I learned that from a song sung by Urethra Franklin.
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http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47073090/ns/today-today_news/#.T42OYuzs_Gg
Interesting............. even though they are anoymous sperm donors there has to be some record of them like sperm vial 23423545 matches Johnny Reb ya know :???:
Can't blame it on me...I left all my sperm donations in the hay loft of the old barn. :-)
My X-wife was born in Germany in 1947. Her dad was American and her Mother was British. She was a German and a British citizen but not an American citizen. It caused her and her family a lot of problems ever time he got transferred from here to whereever or from there back here. She finally got her US citizenship after we married.
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the U.S. State Department is refusing to grant citizenship to her children because she is unable to prove that any of the donors are American citizens.
Neither was Obama's dad. :popcorn:
Irony is think here, isn't it... :popcorn:
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I lost mine jackin' it in.......San Diaaaago.
That's not gonna make any sense to non-South Park fans.