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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Kimberly on April 14, 2012, 07:28:33 AM
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This link is radioactive (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002559362#post5)
TheWraith (23,259 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Reminder: Cell phones do not cause cancer, nor do radio waves make you sick.
After once again seeing a big steaming load of pseudoscientific dung dropped here a little while ago, in the form of an article claiming that cell phone towers and radio waves will make you sick, I thought it was about that time for our regular reminder: they don't.
Every major scientific study has concluded that there is no tangible health risks from radio waves, in the same way that every major scientific study has shown that exercise is good for you and the Earth is more than 6,000 years old. This is not controversial at all. There are no real health risks associated with the average person's exposure to radio waves. And people who claim to be sickened by wireless devices have long since been debunked, since despite claiming immediate ill effects, they're unable to tell the difference between a wireless device which is transmitting and one which isn't even plugged in.
If cell phones actually caused cancer, with now something like 90 cell phones in the US per 100 people, science would dictate that cancer rates would have gone up, whereas they have actually gone DOWN slightly since cell phones became popular. Furthermore, if radio waves were actually in any way harmful, you'd think people would have experienced that from being near radio and TV stations which transmit at a hundred thousand watts, rather than cell phone towers which transmit at a few hundred.
The wild claims you hear about people being sickened by WiFi or getting rashes from cell phone towers are, simply put, junk. You might as well say that they were cursed by a witch--it has as much scientific validity. Either they're people who are hypochondriacs and don't understand that just because something exists doesn't make it dangerous, or they're simply misinformed.
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. Jury is not completely out with
Cell phones perse, and studies are still ongoing on that, but you knew that.
As to cell towers...mostly correct.
But cell phones themselves...I will wait...and it's believed not to be related to the radio waves by the way...
jeff47 (3,503 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. *sigh*
Really.....cell phones using the same frequencies at much, much less power may be dangerous, but cell towers, even when standing right next to them, are not?
And it's not radio waves? What is it, aether?
Response to jeff47 (Reply #10)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. Radiation from battery packages and a few other things
Sigh indeed.
To be clear from studies, not related to radio waves, either the towers or phones. Regardless, there is another danger on them clearly established by now...driving and talking/ texting.
The evidence for that other possible problem, operative word, possible, s still in the realm of statistics and epidemiology, will take a decade or two before we have anything one way or the other.
jeff47 (3,503 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
25. No, the statistics are already in.
Cell phones have been widely distributed since the 1980s. Back then they were analog units that output far more power. So if there's some effect, early adopters would show signs. They have not.
Newer, digital units have been ubiquitous since the 1990s. They use less power, and thus would logically have less effect. Again, if there was some effect, a hell of a lot of people would show signs. They have not.
There has been ample time for statistics to show a danger, and they have consistently failed to do so.
Now, what sort of radiation do you think comes from a lithium-ion battery?
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
40. Sure they are... why the WHO is still waiting for them
Have a good day.
TheWraith (23,259 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
61. Radiation from battery packages? Would you care to try that one again?
Because batteries don't "radiate."
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
63. Tell you what, take the issue with the World Health Organization
and the National Institutes of Health. I take those people are not wearing tin foil, but as I said, the evidence is not fully in, even if you want to believe otherwise.
Did I mention Centers for Disease Control?
I guess the tinfoil market over those places is high and heavy.
Have a good day.
Will let you have the absolute last word on this... since you of course have read everything on this subject. I have not, but have read enough FROM THOSE tin foil wearing lunatics to know that this is not fully settled yet...
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
65. Fully agreed
What worries researchers workng on the research studies (statistical analysis and all that jazz) are for real long term exposure...my niece's generation, who started using them pesky toys young, I dare say they use them more often than I do...hence them stats still have some time to come in.
Why NIH, CDC, WHO and a few other lunatics, are still waiting for that to come in.
I dare say for you and me it's academic, and I hope when the data comes in, it remains academic.
Of course land fills and batteries, don't get me started. that is a hole different story.
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Nads has GOT to be doing Skinner. I really cannot see why she is still without a tombstone.
Skinner. you blind fool.
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Nothing is more irritating than Nads professing absolute knowledge of something from a google search. The OP brings up a topic that is of interest to him/her and she swoops in with her nonsense as if on cue.
She owes her internet social life to the google.
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Nutcase nadin is treading thin ice here.
Her battery pack hazard is getting dangerously close to chemtrail territory.
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Nads has GOT to be doing Skinner. I really cannot see why she is still without a tombstone.
Skinner. you blind fool.
Based on the pictures, I'm surprised either $kimmer or Nadin are getting any.
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The WHO also believes that pickles may cause cancer, and rate them just as dangerous as cellphones. And coffee. That's right- Starbuck's is serving up Organic Ethiopia Sidamo Whole Bean with a heaping spoonful of death according to the WHO.
So, enjoying a piping hot Venti dark roast while eating a sandwich with a kosher dill on the side as you surf the web on the restaurant's free WiFi is guaranteed to start a Fukushima-like meltdown inside your head. Bank it.
edit: link to a report on WHO stupidity (http://www.care2.com/greenliving/does-coffee-cause-cancer.html)
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That fat broad's ignorance just ass tounds me. :-)
Radiating batteries, good grief. :banghead:
Cracks me up that she actually tries to dismiss the OP from his own thread. :rotf:
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A little blast from the past, re some democrat congresswoman shot by a nut in Arizona:
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-12-11 04:51 PM
Original message
We have crossed the rubicon... folks
I was hoping that they'd tone it down... realizing that yes... they too could be in the gun sights.
Instead we have seen an escalation to the point that no, I don't think it can be dialed down. We are at that point some of us have predicted. Things will now slowly escalate... but they will.
Hope to whoever that I am wrong... but this morning was not a small thing, nor an idiot putting foot in mouth... but a hell of an escalation.
That is all.
Politics is about to take a very nasty turn...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x185928
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I'm late seeing this one, but I could pass this up.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. Radiation from battery packages and a few other things
So, if that little battery pack in my cell phone is so deadly, then people driving Chevy Volts should die before the battery pack in their cars do. Maybe that is how Chevy plans to get around that problem.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. Radiation from battery packages and a few other things
It's hard to believe that even nadin is this dumb. What happened to all that advanced learning that she got in third world school?
Here in the redneck south we learned about batteries in 7th grade chem class. That was before lithium batteries, but I assume they operate on the same principle as other batteries.
Maybe she thinks cell phones are powered by radioisotope generators.
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"I dare say" has become the new "suffice to say".
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It's hard to believe that even nadin is this dumb. What happened to all that advanced learning that she got in third world school?
Here in the redneck south we learned about batteries in 7th grade chem class. That was before lithium batteries, but I assume they operate on the same principle as other batteries.
Maybe she thinks cell phones are powered by radioisotope generators.
Apparently it's what they taught her in secondary school physics thirty or forty years ago in Mexico.
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Nadin is the ultimate ****tard.
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If batteries gave off that kind of radiation, anyone driving a Prius or Volt would be a crispy critter within a week.
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A battery pack is what former clients of Eric Holder buy at the criminal store, prior to committing assault and...
It is a complete pack.
That is what nadin is talking about, and it is highly carcinogenic.
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Cell phones have ear worms that invade the brain...when using a cell phone, one should hold nose, close mouth and blow real hard to keep ear worms blown out.
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Nad's exposé on the dangers of batteries has just dismantled the entire green energy industry. News at eleven.
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Without batteries, most of the DUmp has no sex life.
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Without batteries, most of the DUmp has no sex life.
They are even too lazy to 'handle matters' themselves, and rely on something else to do it for them. Sad really...
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I'd venture to say the granite in Kpete's palatial estate gives off more radiation than a cell tower.
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I would think that the women from the DUmp would know something about batteries. I mean they probably use rabbits and been responsible for their own orgasms for the past decade or more. :rotf: