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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on April 10, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
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Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:27 AM
Star Member Sarah Ibarruri (17,928 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
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Small example of lovely conversation I had this a.m. with a Libertarian nutjob
Libertarian: “When governments spend more than they have, that’s what happensâ€
Me: “You’re either out of your mind, or you're choosing voluntary blindness, but let’s assume that were the situation, what’s your solution?â€
Libertarian: “You lower your spending!â€
Me: “But what about the fact that the mega-wealthy are no longer paying equitable taxes? If you have no revenue or very little revenue, how can you even spend ANYTHING? There's nothing TO spend!â€
Libertarian: “Are you kidding me? The rich paying the bulk of the taxes in the U.S. What kind of tax rates would you like them to be paying? Let me ask you something, do you routinely spend more than you make?â€
Me: “No, I don’t. I do put funds into my piggy bank. There would be a problem if I didn’t put funds in there, and that’s what’s happened in the U.S. I want them to pay the same rates they were paying before Reagan. Let me explainâ€
Libertarian interrupted me
Again
And again
And again
Then I went quiet, then Libertarian said, “Fine, go ahead but you’re WRONG, and you won’t listen because you're hard-headed!!â€
Me: “Listen up. If you have a parent with children, and that parent works but keeps the money for HIMSELF and doesn’t share it with his children, according to YOU, the solution to that problem, is for the children to eat less and go shoeless, since they’re eating more than the money available for them to eat and wear shoes.
Libertarian: “No, that’s not what I saidâ€
Me: “Oh, it sure as hell is, but you said you’d let me finish!!!!â€
Libertarian uttered: “Nuts! You're nuts!†then went into silence and seething anger.
Me: “Corporations and the rich are not paying their fair share in taxes, and you know this for a fact because I've mentioned this before so of course this country's govt has much less funds to pay necessary things with. Also, corporations are selling their foreign-made products to us, products that once were manufactured here, and for which the American workforce got paid for making. That means less revenue to go into our country. So there you have 2 monstrously huge reasons our govt has no funds. It’s NOT that vital, life-giving programs are spending more than this country is making. It’s that the funds that were going into this country HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY BY THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS, AND THESE NEED TO BE PUT BACK.
Libertarian: “Can I talk now?"
Me: "NO."
Libertarian: "You want to take money from the rich. It’s always the rich, the rich, corporations, the rich, corporations, blah blahâ€
Me: “Hey, iIf they’re the ones responsible for the f'd up situation we're in, I’m not going to protect their evil asses like you do.â€.
And so it went.
Her analogy is so misplaced. Wait a minute. Her brain is misplaced.
Sarah Ibarruri (17,928 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
11. He made 'some' money in the market, but he's by no means rich. His kids are not doing well
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financially in this economy, but does he connect the dots? NO, of course, why should he? He's a Republican, they're not here to connect the dots or understand anything.
I suppose it never occurred to you that you'd have to make your own way in this world?
That's the problem with you people. You expect demand handouts.
HughBeaumont (18,414 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. This sounds like every conversation I've had with every Libertarian and Republican ever.
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Not only are they serial interruptors and talk for the sake of hearing themselves talk, it just amazes me how steadfastly protective they are of the wealthy and corporations and how insistent they are that lower taxes on the wealthy (or even more hilarious, elimination of them completely) and less money towards social programs is the solution that ails all of our problems.
It also amazes me about libertarians how they insist up and down that "they're not Republicans", yet subscribe to and practically trip over themselves to defend every failed Republican economic policy there is. Paulites are even worse; they want to pretty much eliminate the social safety net instead of merely defund it. Yeah, good luck fending off THAT mob, guys.
Ever listen to a liberal being interviewed on the radio or TV? They don't let anyone else get a word in edgewise.
Mimosa (8,799 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. Most of the self-described libertarians are in fact rightwing Republicans
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Every now and then I used to visit a couple of boards where most of the males posting claimed to be 'libertarians'. Having leaned that way when I was young I know libertarian philosophy.
You can tell when a self-described libertarian is really a rightwinger by their views on abortion. That's where they can't keep up the pretense.
Oh good. That means that our percentages of conservative/moonbat just went up.
Conservative= 50%
Moonbat= 20%
From the hashmarked dirty drawers:
Skidmore (26,597 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. Your conversation in totality sounds like my brother's diatribe
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last month, only he was presenting both sides as a unified argument and arriving at the conclusion that he's "tired of supporting lazy people" and just wants some of his money back. I got whiplash and a severe headache afterward. His conclusion is also that he hates both parties and will not vote. Period.
:lol: Believe me when I say, it was personal.
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I'm always amazed that DUmpmonkeys can remember each and every word spoken, and quote them.
They have to be the smartest people on the interwebs.
I'm also not surprised they the biggest liars on the interwebs.
What a stupid bouncy. zero :stoner:
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I'm always amazed that DUmpmonkeys can remember each and every word spoken, and quote them.
They have to be the smartest people on the interwebs.
I'm also not surprised they the biggest liars on the interwebs.
What a stupid bouncy. zero :stoner:
Negative-50 bongs. It fails that badly. The Bouncy format never changed.
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They're like idiot-savants, perfect recall of every word spoken in their stupid arguments, but not enough brain wattage to think through the factual impossibility of the colossal tax load their spending dreams would require.
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They're like idiot-savants
DAT, you give them waaaay too much credit. They're just plain, run-of-the-mill idiots.
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So, Obamanomics is working then? Whodathunkit! :whatever:
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:yahoo: for Sarah being back but................Sarah Sarah Sarah, can you imagine having sex with her if you're a guy?
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Sweetheart, would you like to make love?
Sarah: NO! I don't want to screw, I want to talk about Repugspukes
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Sweetheart, I didn't say screw, I said make love, there's a difference ya know?
Sarah: YES! you're right, there's a difference between the 2 terms, Democrats makes love to the Country and you Repugspukes screw the Country!
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Sweetheart, unemployment has gone up under your guy, as has gas prices, food prices, the misery index, and your guy has spent more in 3 years then every President combined, now let's just put politics aside for an hour and make love.
Sarah: NO! I don't want to get screwed by you, I'm upset, angry, furious.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Sweetheart, you're always upset, angry and furious.
Rush Limbaugh: Great news folks, we were picked up by a radio station in Philadelphia and our sponsors have increased.
Sarah: And shut that damn guy off on the radio, I'm fed-up with listening to him.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: I didn't even turn the radio on, you said you were changing stations and just stopped there to see what Rush was saying, it's not my fault you chose to listen for 3 hours.
Sarah: Oh shut up, I want to break up with you, I asked for advice and everything at DU, some people agreed with me and some thought I was a fool and they said I treat you like crap.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Well you do!
Sarah: how dare you.........
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Oh shut up bitch and get in that bed and and do your womanly duties!
Sarah: OK, but just this time, then we're going to break up.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Yeah yeah, you always say that.
Sarah: Ohhhhhhhh! frank, oh Chris, oh BSS, I mean Rebel, ooooops I mean GOBUCKS, I mean Tucker, I mean Nice Conservative Guy who treats me nice.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Who are those people you named?
Sarah: I'm just fantasizing, that's all.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: I really need to find a nice Conservative girl.
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Sarah Ibarruri (17,928 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
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financially in this economy, but does he connect the dots? NO, of course, why should he? He's a Republican, they're not here to connect the dots or understand anything.
Let me see if I can connect some dots.
Dot 1: When George W. Bush (a republican) was president and the republicans controlled congress my business was good, I wasn't in debt, and I had money in my savings account.
Dot 2: When the democratics took control of congress my business started dropping, my debt started increasing, and my savings shrunk.
Dot 3: When the democratics controlled congress and 0 (a democratic) became president my business almost disappeared, I'm in debt up to my eyeballs, and my savings is gone.
Okay. It looks like dot 1 connected to dot 2 connected to dot 3 means democratics are a bad things. Now that I've connected the dots what is your point? Is it that you're an idiot?
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:yahoo: for Sarah being back but................Sarah Sarah Sarah, can you imagine having sex with her if you're a guy?
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Sweetheart, would you like to make love?
Sarah: NO! I don't want to screw, I want to talk about Repugspukes
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Sweetheart, I didn't say screw, I said make love, there's a difference ya know?
Sarah: YES! you're right, there's a difference between the 2 terms, Democrats makes love to the Country and you Repugspukes screw the Country!
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Sweetheart, unemployment has gone up under your guy, as has gas prices, food prices, the misery index, and your guy has spent more in 3 years then every President combined, now let's just put politics aside for an hour and make love.
Sarah: NO! I don't want to get screwed by you, I'm upset, angry, furious.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Sweetheart, you're always upset, angry and furious.
Rush Limbaugh: Great news folks, we were picked up by a radio station in Philadelphia and our sponsors have increased.
Sarah: And shut that damn guy off on the radio, I'm fed-up with listening to him.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: I didn't even turn the radio on, you said you were changing stations and just stopped there to see what Rush was saying, it's not my fault you chose to listen for 3 hours.
Sarah: Oh shut up, I want to break up with you, I asked for advice and everything at DU, some people agreed with me and some thought I was a fool and they said I treat you like crap.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Well you do!
Sarah: how dare you.........
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Oh shut up bitch and get in that bed and and do your womanly duties!
Sarah: OK, but just this time, then we're going to break up.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Yeah yeah, you always say that.
Sarah: Ohhhhhhhh! frank, I mean Rebel, ooooops I mean GOBUCKS, I mean Tucker, I mean Nice Conservative Guy who treats me nice.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: Who are those people you named?
Sarah: I'm just fantasizing, that's all.
Nice Conservative Guy who treats Sarah really good: I really need to find a nice Conservative girl.
I imagine that's pretty close to the truth.
H5
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Hahahaha H5 Bally
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:rofl: And a new fun word!
I want to talk about Repugspukes
Ohhhhhhhh! frank, I mean Rebel, ooooops I mean GOBUCKS, I mean Tucker,
Are you listening at my door? :panic: :naughty:
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Sarah Ibarruri
Me: “But what about the fact that the mega-wealthy are no longer paying equitable taxes?"
(snip)
Me: “Corporations and the rich are not paying their fair share in taxes, and you know this for a fact because I've mentioned this before..."
See, that ends the conversation with me. She can have the opinion that the wealthy aren't paying equitable taxes, and I would let her know that it's just her opinion, but it's not a fact. I'm not interested in discussing her opinion, or the opinion of any liberal for that matter.
Got that, Sarah? It's your opinion, which is irrelevant.
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Tax every corporation and person making over $250K at 100% and it still would cover one years budget , let alone make a dent in the deficit. Obama's "Buffet Rule" is just a reelection ploy to make the little people feel better. The money from the Buffet Rule would be spent in a matter of weeks if not days by Obama.
Spending has got to be cut. Period.
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Sarah: Ohhhhhhhh! frank, oh Chris, oh thundley, oh BSS, I mean Rebel, ooooops I mean GOBUCKS, I mean Tucker, I mean Nice Conservative Guy who treats me nice.
Oooops, added thundley to the list.
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She certainly is gaining on Beth as being the most stupid woman on the internet.
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See, that ends the conversation with me. She can have the opinion that the wealthy aren't paying equitable taxes, and I would let her know that it's just her opinion, but it's not a fact. I'm not interested in discussing her opinion, or the opinion of any liberal for that matter.
Got that, Sarah? It's your opinion, which is irrelevant.
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Also, toss in the 50% that pay zero taxes. Start bitching about them Sarah, and maybe we'll let you in the house once in a while.
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Poor, rejected DUmmy Sarah Imaboobi, used and tossed aside by countless anonymous one-night stands, has become a boiling cauldron of hatred.
With so much time on her hands, waiting for the telephone to ring, she fills the hours by fantasizing about how she'd like to abuse repukes, who in her mind take the place of all the men who have sampled her wares and found them wanting.
Poor, poor Imaboobi. Used, abused, confused.
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The funny part is that in her bouncy she admitted the logical solution to our financial woes... stop spending so damn much money. That is what is known as a liberal accidentally telling the truth.
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The funny part is that in her bouncy she admitted the logical solution to our financial woes... stop spending so damn much money. That is what is known as a liberal accidentally telling the truth.
Even a blind squirrel will find a nut now and then.
But if "stupid Sarah" were dirt, she'd cover Texas.
http://www.electstevedawes.com
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Sarah Ibarruri
Me: “Listen up. If you have a parent with children, and that parent works but keeps the money for HIMSELF and doesn’t share it with his children, according to YOU, the solution to that problem, is for the children to eat less and go shoeless, since they’re eating more than the money available for them to eat and wear shoes.
So the 'rich' are like parents to the 'poor'?
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^ I didn't read as much into it as some here, because this entire conversation never happened.