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Title: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 02, 2012, 01:49:32 PM
This is the moment the "Hang Zimmerman!" movement fumbled and hung itself. AssFire started last night and now the rest of the lemmings are following her over the side:

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mainer

George Zimmerman's grandpa served in "military intelligence."

 Yesterday on DU, there was speculation (the subject has since been deleted by the original poster) that the Zimmerman family had ties to the CIA. The NYT has this to say about it:
 
"He (George), too, was from someplace else — the second of three children raised in a red-brick home in a cul-de-sac in Manassas, Va. His father, Robert, was a magistrate judge and a veteran of the Vietnam War, and Robert’s father worked in Army intelligence,"
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/02/us/trayvon-martin-shooting-prompts-a-review-of-ideals.html?pagewanted=3&ref=us
 
DU was not far off the mark. Now the question is, what did George's dad, Robert J, do before he became a magistrate?

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NoMoreWarNow

1. definitely a creepy layer to this

can you say psy-op?

hard to rule it out.

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mainer

5. Yet we can't deny that the PD and the prosecutor's office bent over backwards

to clear George.

And that George's past assault charges were very swiftly dropped.

Or that the mayor claimed he was "called to Washington" about this.

Or that the ME's office held onto the body for days, knowing its identity, without notifying the family.
 
Someone is exerting some powerful influence here.

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MineralMan

8. I'm not sure this is relevant, really.

I was in military intelligence, too, and even worked in the NSA building at Ft. Meade, MD, while serving in the USAF. That, and a couple of buck will buy be an overpriced cup of coffee at Starbucks.
 
It may be a fact that has no bearing on anything. In fact, that's the most likely thing.

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mainer

14. Not grandpa's influence. Father's influence.

CIA as an occupation often runs in families.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #8)

Octafish

18. Helps to understand why you appear to discourage discussion of certain topics.

"The thing is that the JFK assassination is so overloaded with conspiracy theory nonsense that it's almost impossible to discuss rationally any more."
 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=246586

And encourage others:

"By the way, this book is not the first time this has been mentioned."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002275512#post12

Just noticin'.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002505684

Sure the cranks will still crank but middle America will start watching with increasing dismay and a growing realization that those who would recruit their outrage are morons/lunatics/hucksters.

So it is with DUmbasses.

So it must be.

You cannot base your entire ideology on demonstrably untrue allegations of institutionalized injustice without casting suspicious eyes at those institutions. The more dramatic the accusations the more fanciful the suspicions.

This is the price they pay for refusing to deal with the reality that they are the best guarantors of their success ergo they are the prime reason for their own failures. To esteem you self over your ccomplishments means you blame others for your failures and that requires unfounded suspicions.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Rebel on April 02, 2012, 01:52:58 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDZBgHBHQT8[/youtube]
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 02, 2012, 01:53:41 PM
The circular firing squad is going at it--with 155mm artillery!
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 02, 2012, 02:05:37 PM
New thread.

The tempo increases:

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Sarah Ibarruri (17,718 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

Zimmerman's grandfather connected to the CIA - this explains why the murderer is not in jail

R.W. Zimmermann was working for the Central Intelligence Agency in Langley Virginia after his retirement from foreign service diplomacy. George Zimmermann's grandfather diplomatic career allotted travel to many international locations, ending his service as Consulate General in Barcelona.

http://www.reachoutjobsearch.com/


Apparently they've confused "CIA" for "the Kennedy family."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002506346

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obey

3. Well that explains why they spell their last names differently

Kinda covers up the connection.

Sneaky bass turds, clever too.

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mainer

5. The grandfather's official obituary deleted the last n from his name.

Which indicates he did drop the N during his lifetime.

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obey

20. Ah Ha, and Grampa Zimmermann was from Minnesota

as was Robert Allen Zimmerman who later changed HIS name to Bob Dylan.

I sense a pattern beginning to emerge here.

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mainer

33. And I sense a mole, Mr. 51 posts

"Active since March 24" -- after Trayvon Martin case became well known.

Posting extensively on how the CIA is not connected to the Zimmermans.

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Sarah Ibarruri

52. I never notice things like when posters became active. I guess I should. It might explain behavior

a bit.

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Tom Ripley

40. How's that spook ass taste?

You're not fooling anyone

And it goes on like this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002506346
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: AllosaursRus on April 02, 2012, 02:09:51 PM
The circular firing squad is going at it--with 155mm artillery!

Heh! did ya listen to ElRushbo today?

It appears NBC and ABC altered sound bites and video in order to push the race baitin' bull shit!

This is not goin' to end well for the MSM, O'BummerMyNutz, or the DUmmies at all!
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 02, 2012, 02:10:48 PM
The DUmmies will soon discover that Obama MIHOP or LIHOP because he needed the distraction from his failed policies and the subsequent boost in votes.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 02, 2012, 02:15:50 PM
The DUmmies will soon discover that Obama MIHOP or LIHOP because he needed the distraction from his failed policies and the subsequent boost in votes.

You know who else worked for the CIA?

That's right!

Poppy Bush.

And you know who used a stolen election in Florida to stage a national coup?

That's right!

Baby Bush

You know who signed Stand Your Ground into law?

That's rights!

Baby Bush Baby Brother

Don't tell me the CIAs fingers aren't all over this!
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Chris_ on April 02, 2012, 02:17:08 PM
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mainer

5. The grandfather's official obituary deleted the last n from his name.

Which indicates he did drop the N during his lifetime.
Oooh, you guys are so smart!
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 02, 2012, 02:23:12 PM
Heh! did ya listen to ElRushbo today?

It appears NBC and ABC altered sound bites and video in order to push the race baitin' bull shit!

This is not goin' to end well for the MSM, O'BummerMyNutz, or the DUmmies at all!

No, I didn't--but the LameStream Media is really desperate, if they're making all of these obvious mistakes.  Remember, it could all be a distraction.  As for what, I have no idea.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: RWKindaGuy on April 02, 2012, 02:29:23 PM
You know who else worked for the CIA?

That's right!

Poppy Bush.

And you know who used a stolen election in Florida to stage a national coup?

That's right!

Baby Bush

You know who signed Stand Your Ground into law?

That's rights!

Baby Bush Baby Brother

Don't tell me the CIAs fingers aren't all over this!

And, and, and ... there's that "Hispanic" Senator from Florida.  It's all coming together now.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Freeper on April 02, 2012, 02:32:45 PM
Hey DUmmies, since Poppy Zimmerman is part of the CIA what they will do is fake George's death then send him to the same island where Ken Lay is living at.
Don't tell anyone though, it's a secret.

Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Gina on April 02, 2012, 02:33:09 PM
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Tom Ripley

40. How's that spook ass taste?

You're not fooling anyone

Isn't that racist?   :???:
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on April 02, 2012, 03:12:43 PM
And, and, and ... there's that "Hispanic" Senator from Florida.  It's all coming together now.


But is he a "white" Hispanic?
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 02, 2012, 05:58:47 PM
Zut alors, zey know everysing!

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: obumazombie on April 02, 2012, 06:04:33 PM
Isn't that racist?   :???:
Where is that "that's racist" mpeg when you need it ?
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: franksolich on April 02, 2012, 06:11:03 PM
Zut alors, zey know everysing!

 :popcorn:

I was struck by this when I noticed Sherlock Judy's campfire on Skins's island the other day.

As you might, or might not, know, Sherlock Judy has been reading franksolich and seven-year-old editions of the DUmmie FUnnies on freerepublic, trying to find a smoking gun proving that freepers killed the late red round one.

She's very persistent and thoroughgoing; one has to give Sherlock Judy kudos for that.

It appears that somewhere along the line, Sherlock Judy "absorbed" the lessons of Scamdy, and is trying to apply the principles and methods used by Scamdy to "investigating" this real-life case.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: docstew on April 02, 2012, 06:56:48 PM
This is the moment the "Hang Zimmerman!" movement fumbled and hung itself. AssFire started last night and now the rest of the lemmings are following her over the side:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002505684

Sure the cranks will still crank but middle America will start watching with increasing dismay and a growing realization that those who would recruit their outrage are morons/lunatics/hucksters.

So it is with DUmbasses.

So it must be.

You cannot base your entire ideology on demonstrably untrue allegations of institutionalized injustice without casting suspicious eyes at those institutions. The more dramatic the accusations the more fanciful the suspicions.

This is the price they pay for refusing to deal with the reality that they are the best guarantors of their success ergo they are the prime reason for their own failures. To esteem you self over your ccomplishments means you blame others for your failures and that requires unfounded suspicions.

If this was an op run by the CIA (because we all know that the 0bama CIA sees a national security need for one specific teenager in Sanford, FL, to die), we have the most incompetent intelligence service in the world. The sheer level of idiocy involved in this theory is mind-boggling.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 02, 2012, 07:09:19 PM
Finally! After all this time, we now know, thanks to our intrepid DUmmie "researchers" that George Zimmerman, and George Zimmerman alone was the lone wirer of the WTC inside job!
[youtube=425,350]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI[/youtube]
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: obumazombie on April 02, 2012, 11:05:30 PM
Would someone tell Rosie that ice can rip steel, and fire can melt it ?
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: FlippyDoo on April 03, 2012, 05:39:48 AM
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Tom Ripley

40. How's that spook ass taste?

You're not fooling anyone

So you guys think you are relevant enough and important enough that you have the CIA worried enough that they've sent a mole to do some misdirection? Do you realize that when I told the other fictional spirit-guides this that one of them laughed so hard he had an asthma attack?

I hate to break the news to you DU, but you are not relevant or important. The BFEE allows you to exist for only two reasons: 1) your lunacy is funny as hell, and 2) you provide a prime example to normal and decent people of what libs are. I actually had a fictional spirit-guide friend who was on assignment with the BFEE for a while. She said that the powers the be with the BFEE says that DU has turned more people away from the demonratics and toward conservatism in the last 12 years than any other 10 republicans combined. Keep up the good work!

By the way, as to the agency, when they get tired of you they won't send a mole. They'll just have your entitlement checks cut.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: diesel driver on April 03, 2012, 05:53:50 AM
Where is that "that's racist" mpeg when you need it ?
 

You mean this one:

 :racist:

http://www.electstevedawes.com/
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: obumazombie on April 03, 2012, 09:50:49 AM
 

You mean this one:

 :racist:

http://www.electstevedawes.com/
That's EXACTLY the one I mean. I love that mpeg.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Gina on April 10, 2012, 12:15:53 PM
That's EXACTLY the one I mean. I love that mpeg.

 and this one is for Zimmerman :racista:
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: movie buff on April 10, 2012, 01:17:38 PM
But is he a "white" Hispanic?

According to that traitorous RINO POS Charlie Crist, he is.

"definitely a creepy layer to this

can you say psy-op?"
LOL! Oh, sure, a big insane psy- op conspiracy to kill some random teenage thug! Freaking imbecile.

"mainer

33. And I sense a mole, Mr. 51 posts

"Active since March 24" -- after Trayvon Martin case became well known.

Posting extensively on how the CIA is not connected to the Zimmermans. "
The paranoia is strong with this one.
This conspiracy apparently is so strong, and so deep, that they (Whoever the hell "They" are) don't even want people rumoring about it on DU!  :lmao:
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: mamacags on April 10, 2012, 01:37:49 PM
You guys are making me giggle!
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Wineslob on April 10, 2012, 01:39:37 PM
Heh! did ya listen to ElRushbo today?

It appears NBC and ABC altered sound bites and video in order to push the race baitin' bull shit!
This is not goin' to end well for the MSM, O'BummerMyNutz, or the DUmmies at all!


The "hoodie" photo was doctored also.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Rebel on April 10, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
That's EXACTLY the one I mean. I love that mpeg.

That's not an mpeg. It's a gif file.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Gina on April 10, 2012, 02:02:53 PM
That's not an mpeg. It's a gif file.

don't tell him, it's cute when he talks techie  :lmao:
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Airwolf on April 10, 2012, 04:37:08 PM
Don't you love it when the very same people say the Government has been hiding UFOS for years, won't come clean on 9/11, let the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbour and stole at least two elections can't do a simple hit on one person in the rain at night.  Thus It's another reason to get rid of Bush.......oops it was Nobama that's in charge.  He needs to get voted out even more now.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: docstew on April 10, 2012, 05:20:26 PM
Don't you love it when the very same people say the Government has been hiding UFOS for years, won't come clean on 9/11, let the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbour and stole at least two elections can't do a simple hit on one person in the rain at night.  Thus It's another reason to get rid of Bush.......oops it was Nobama that's in charge.  He needs to get voted out even more now.

I find it ironic that they believe the gov't would go to these lengths to kill some random teenager, and screw it up in the process, is the same gov't they want to hand life and death decisions about healthcare.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: BEG on April 10, 2012, 05:30:38 PM
From Twitter:

From Iowahawk

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If you think Khalid Sheik Muhammad has more civil rights than George Zimmerman, #YouMightBeAttorneyGeneraloftheUnitedStates
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Ballygrl on April 10, 2012, 05:32:39 PM
I :heart: Iowahawkblog.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: BEG on April 10, 2012, 05:35:04 PM
Apparently Zimmermans attorney's ditched him.

LINK (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/04/10/george-zimmermans-attorneys-withdraw-from-case/)
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Elspeth on April 10, 2012, 05:52:44 PM
Just saw that.  CU is down, but I posted what I could type quickly from it.  I wonder if this indicates better attorneys?  Some kind of deal?
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Rebel on April 10, 2012, 06:10:00 PM
He didn't leave them with a choice. He hasn't corresponded with them in two days and he's been talking to people on his own.
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: Elspeth on April 10, 2012, 06:22:24 PM
He didn't leave them with a choice. He hasn't corresponded with them in two days and he's been talking to people on his own.

So I gathered.  But I wondered why Zimmerman was talking to the Special Prosecutor on his own.  That seems utterly foolhardy to me.

Edited to add:

There's lots of DUmmy speculation:

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aquart
2. That's not why you drop a client. This is highly unusual behavior.

I agree with the expert on Politics Nation. The lawyers know he has done something egregious. They aren't allowed to tell but they can't defend him anymore without destroying themselves.

Right now, he seems a handy-dandy candidate for mental incompetence.

I want to know where his gun is right now.


(Politics Nation is Weird Al Sharpton's dance hour on MSNBC)


Gothmog

13. Lawyers do not drop clients for no reason

Zimmerman went off the reservation and talked to Hannity and to the special prosecutor's office without counsel being on the call. That type of conduct is very dangerous. Hannity can be called in and forced to describe everything that Zimmerman told him because there is no privilege here and this conversation is discoverable. Zimmerman's call to the special counsel is pure craziness in that he is going against his counsel's instructions.


1StrongBlackMan

8. I suspect ...

that is not it. Attorneys don't bail on high profile cases just because they discover facts contrary to what they were lead to believe, especially if they believe they will get a no bill, or no charges ...

I'd bet your next paycheck that they found out that he is going to be charged AND it would not surprise me if zimmerman confessed, or implicated himself in his call to the DA and/or hannity.

Blaze Diem

... I believe they already know Zimmerman won't be charged. That this is their attempt at formally ending and distancing themselves from the case altogether. They are telling the Press to 'no longer call our offices because we are not involved".
The 20 minutes they did spend on camera strongly defending George & laying out the reasons for his innocence was to begin the task of damage control prior to the formal announcement by the Prosecutor. They know how the public will react.

They have dropped Zimmerman as a client because he no longer needs their counsel. He will not be charged.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002543861#post2
Title: Re: The beginning of the CTs of Le Affaire d'Zimmerman; beginning of the end
Post by: obumazombie on April 12, 2012, 02:00:11 PM
That's not an mpeg. It's a gif file.
I always wondered what the "f" in "gif" stood for.