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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: JakeStyle on April 01, 2012, 02:44:34 PM
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nadinbrzezinski
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 11:40 AM
Zimmerman case: This is what is at stake
Last edited Sun Apr 1, 2012, 11:47 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Stake, and why the NRA already kicked money to the Zimmerman defense...nothing less than stand your ground laws.
This is why this case has taken on civil rights dimensions. The NRA types fear, wrongly, that this will lead to gun grabbing laws. Of course if you are Wayne LaPierre even revising SYG laws is gun grabbing.
So I expect that aspect of this to take form in the next few weeks.
They are also desperate.
Some defenders have implied medics used surgical glue...well out of the scope of practice for urban EMS in the US.
Others that they used quick clotting powder, again out of the scope of practice for urban EMS.
Here linky
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/243620-Texas-lawyers-offer-10-000-for-George-Zimmerman-s-legal-defense
TheWraith
1. Uh, the NRA has not contributed money to Zimmerman's defense.
Your premise is wrong. Also off topic for GD.
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5. The NRA is providing $$$$ for Zimmermans defense?
You have a cite for that, of course.
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10. Ties... what "ties"?
The guy sits on the BOA of the NRA?
He's an NRA "Life Member"?
He once shook hands with Wayne LaPierre at a gun show?
He has every Ted Nugent record ever made?
I'm confused here.
Which one?
Cite, please.
nadinbrzezinski
12. Whatever
Disagree all you want but the laws are now at stake.
Have a wonderful, even fantastic day.
Oh and in my view at the very least they need revision. The author agrees.
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13. So...
are you going to do the honorable thing and edit your OP, or just... "whatever"?
nadinbrzezinski
14. Have a good life
Bye.
zappaman
17. LOL
Nadin of Arc NEVER admits mistakes or edits OPs when shown to be wrong....which she almost always is.
:cheersmate:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503388
Oh my.
nadinbrzezinski (103,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Zimmerman case: This is what is at stake
Stake, and why the NRA already kicked money to the Zimmerman defense...nothing less than stand your ground laws.
This is why this case has taken on civil rights dimensions. The NRA types fear, wrongly, that this will lead to gun grabbing laws. Of course if you are Wayne LaPierre even revising SYG laws is gun grabbing.
So I expect that aspect of this to take form in the next few weeks.
They are also desperate.
Some defenders have implied medics used surgical glue...well out of the scope of practice for urban EMS in the US.
Others that they used quick clotting powder, again out of the scope of practice for urban EMS.
Here linky
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/243620-Texas-lawyers-offer-10-000-for-George-Zimmerman-s-legal-defense
This group is associated to the NRA.
TheWraith (23,105 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. Uh, the NRA has not contributed money to Zimmerman's defense.
Your premise is wrong. Also off topic for GD.
nadinbrzezinski (103,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. Actually a group connected to the NRA has
And exactly how is discussing SYG laws off topic.
TheWraith (23,105 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. No, a group of people in Florida has.
Your premise is still wrong.
And discussion of gun laws goes in the guns group. There's a very explicit mention in the page to post a new GD thread that discussion related to gun laws goes there.
nadinbrzezinski (103,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
8. Except when there is a big story
Did the Trayvon Martin case fall off the front pages?
Also this is not jst the law, but civil rights.
Some of us can see beyond you know.
Some of us can, but nadin can't even see her behind.
KansDem (21,579 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. Mabe not the NRA, but The National Association for Legal Gun Defense wants to...
Gun Owners Group Offers $10K to Zimmerman's Defense
A group representing gun owners involved in self-defense shooting incidents has offered to help George Zimmerman with his legal bills, the Orlando Sentinel reported.
The National Association for Legal Gun Defense wants to donate $10,000 to help defray Zimmerman's legal expenses, a member, said attorney Blue Rannefeld of Fort Worth, Texas, told the Sentinel on Saturday.
Rannefeld said he is still trying to contact Zimmerman, 28, and his attorney, Craig Sonner of Altamonte Springs, to make the offer.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002500364
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11. IIRC...
the National Association for Legal Gun Defense is 3 guys in a trailer park.
Quite a bit of difference from an organization with 3 million plus members.
$10,000?
That won't even cover lunch orders for the defense team for the duration of any trial.
rhett o rick (20,362 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. I see this also as about Bullyism.
The reason for the right backing Zimmerman isnt just racism (which is included in bullyism) it's the support of bullies. The right loves their bullies.
nadinbrzezinski (103,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
9. Part and parcel
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5. The NRA is providing $$$$ for Zimmermans defense?
You have a cite for that, of course.
nadinbrzezinski (103,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
7. This lawyer group from Texas has ties
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/243620-Texas-lawyers-offer-10-000-for-George-Zimmerman-s-legal-defense
-..__... (6,866 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. Ties... what "ties"?
The guy sits on the BOA of the NRA?
He's an NRA "Life Member"?
He once shook hands with Wayne LaPierre at a gun show?
He has every Ted Nugent record ever made?
I'm confused here.
Which one?
Cite, please.
nadinbrzezinski (103,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. Whatever
Disagree all you want but the laws are now at stake.
Have a wonderful, even fantastic day.
Oh and in my view at the very least they need revision. The author agrees.
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13. So...
are you going to do the honorable thing and edit your OP, or just... "whatever"?
nadinbrzezinski (103,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. Have a good life
Bye.
Why does nadin always act as if by putting another primitive on her "iggy" list, she's depriving him, punishing him, in some way?
franksolich's mole would love to be on nadin's iggy list, but can't get there, as nadin's not smart enough to see that kissing her ass sometimes can be accurately thought of as kicking it.
zappaman (4,416 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. LOL
Nadin of Arc NEVER admits mistakes or edits OPs when shown to be wrong....which she almost always is.
zappaman (4,416 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. jeezus...
after which an image of a face-palm
Hangingon (2,079 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
16. Looks like a pretty obscure group.
Open carry forum seems to question them. NRA guys I know don't know anything about them. Looks like a small outfit. Guess it won't keep the loonies from seeing ghosts.
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OMG! :rotf:
I already said this:
Zimmerman should hire Jose Baez (Casey Anthony's lawyer). So even if he is guilty, he will walk.
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I am kind of in shock she hasn't self deleted yet.
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zappaman (4,416 posts)
17. LOL
Nadin of Arc NEVER admits mistakes or edits OPs when shown to be wrong....which she almost always is.
zappaman This message was hidden by Jury decision.
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I want to understand how after 8 years of the SYG law that this one incident will force a change in the legislation?
I bet it has saved hundreds of people and ended the careers of many a criminal.
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I want to understand how after 8 years of the SYG law that this one incident will force a change in the legislation?
I bet it has saved hundreds of people and ended the careers of many a criminal.
House Dems eye policy responses to shooting death of Trayvon Martin
By Mike Lillis - 04/01/12 12:20 PM ET
In the wake of the slaying of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, House Democrats are drafting legislation designed to prevent similar tragedies in the future.
The lawmakers want to adopt tougher rules for neighborhood watch programs, eliminate certain state gun laws, rein in racial profiling and require an examination of racial disparities nationwide.
The Democrats behind the legislation – all members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) – say the steps might have prevented last month's fatal encounter between Martin, 17, an unarmed African-American walking home from a convenience store in Sanford, Fla., and George Zimmerman, 28, a Latino neighborhood watch volunteer carrying a 9mm handgun.
The Hill (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/219385-house-dems-eye-policy-responses-to-shooting-death-of-trayvon-martin)
I really hate that conservatives are politicizing this young man's death. :sarcasm:
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Nadin of Arc. A very nice description.
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She just cannot see that she could be in the wrong, she's like a rock, a really dumb rock
nadinbrzezinski
30. Yup, it's like the reflexes neurologists test for
Hit the knee in the right place with hammer...and knee will kick.
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She just cannot see that she could be in the wrong, she's like a rock, a really dumb rock
That's an insult to rocks! :tongue:
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She just cannot see that she could be in the wrong, she's like a rock, a really dumb rock
It's a liberal trademark. I don't know if it's genetic, or environmental, but all liberals have this trait.
http://www.electstevedawes.com/
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Lord, please take her keyboard away. That much stupid arrogance needs to be stopped before we reach the Rubicon.
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Lord, please take her keyboard away. That much stupid arrogance needs to be stopped before we reach the Rubicon.
We've passed that point . . . :o
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Nadin of Arc. A very nice description.
Didn't Joan go up in flames? :naughty:
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Didn't Joan go up in flames? :naughty:
Good point.
www.electstevedawes.com
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rhett o rick
3. I see this also as about Bullyism.
The reason for the right backing Zimmerman isnt just racism (which is included in bullyism) it's the support of bullies. The right loves their bullies.
Yep, you caught us. We're backing a Hispanic Democrat because, well, **** you, that's why. :whatever:
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nadinbrzezinski
30. Yup, it's like the reflexes neurologists test for
Hit the knee in the right place with hammer...and knee will kick.
My knee doesn't have that capability. This must be a magic knee.
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The knee doesn't kick, Nads, the leg does that. Neurologists aren't the only docs who do that either. God please shut that womyn up!
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My knee doesn't have that capability. This must be a magic knee.
How did your magic knee grow? :whistling:
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Really this is utterly wrong - bullying poor nadin by suggesting that her posts contain facts rather than demonstrable falsehoods...
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Didn't Joan go up in flames? :naughty:
I'll supply the fire wood! Who has some fire starter and matches?
The Hill (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/219385-house-dems-eye-policy-responses-to-shooting-death-of-trayvon-martin)
I really hate that conservatives are politicizing this young man's death. :sarcasm:
Today I heard an obviously black woman, describe him as a "little" boy, for cripes sake! He's over 6 feet tall and played football! Not exactly a babe in the woods! Anyone know the size of Zimmerman?
Never mind the fact DUmmies, he was part of Neighborhood Watch, and took his job seriously.
Never mind the fact he was actin' suspiciously.
Never mind the fact he was walkin' around in a neighborhood that was not his own, in the rain, without a jacket.
Never mind Zimmerman thought he might have been on drugs.
Never mind he confronted Zimmerman and laid hands on him!
None of that shit matters as long as you race baitin' bastards can try and start racial strife!
I'm ashamed you people are part of the human race! Orangutangs have a better sense of morality than you assholes!
I have yet to see any primitives discuss the fact that Zimmerman was injured in this exchange. Pretty peculiar they leave that part out, ain't it?
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I'll supply the fire wood! Who has some fire starter and matches?
Today I heard an obviously black woman, describe him as a "little" boy, for cripes sake! He's over 6 feet tall and played football! Not exactly a babe in the woods! Anyone know the size of Zimmerman?
Never mind the fact DUmmies, he was part of Neighborhood Watch, and took his job seriously.
Never mind the fact he was actin' suspiciously.
Never mind the fact he was walkin' around in a neighborhood that was not his own, in the rain, without a jacket.
Never mind Zimmerman thought he might have been on drugs.
Never mind he confronted Zimmerman and laid hands on him!
None of that shit matters as long as you race baitin' bastards can try and start racial strife!
I'm ashamed you people are part of the human race! Orangutangs have a better sense of morality than you assholes!
I have yet to see any primitives discuss the fact that Zimmerman was injured in this exchange. Pretty peculiar they leave that part out, ain't it?
There ya go gett'n all factual on them. Stop it, that's just mean.
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Please help me out with this statement from nads:
Some defenders have implied medics used surgical glue...well out of the scope of practice for urban EMS in the US.
Others that they used quick clotting powder, again out of the scope of practice for urban EMS.
Is she claiming that the EMS in an urban setting has no way to deal with bleeding? I would think that an urban setting would have many stabbings and gunshot wounds that could potentially cause a victim to bleed out. Are the EMS in urban areas only able to watch the bleed out occur?
Unlike nads I don't know everything and am just curious.
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How did your magic knee grow? :whistling:
With silver bells cockle shells, and pretty maids all in a row.
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Please help me out with this statement from nads:
Is she claiming that the EMS in an urban setting has no way to deal with bleeding? I would think that an urban setting would have many stabbings and gunshot wounds that could potentially cause a victim to bleed out. Are the EMS in urban areas only able to watch the bleed out occur?
Unlike nads I don't know everything and am just curious.
Any EMT can use pressure dressings/tourniquets, and many probably carry QuikClot Combat Gauze (excellent stuff) for use when needed.
And just a hint for you nads, nothing is out of the scope of practice if your medical control authorizes it. Us EMT's can do whatever the Doc says we can.