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Title: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: Skul on March 31, 2012, 11:38:39 AM
Seems the DUmpmonkeys are already getting their excuse ducks in a row.
Their whining is beginning to sound like a Prius in full electric drive.
Question is... how long before they pull a Volt, and burst into flames.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002498854
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dajoki (9,185 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:29 AM
dajoki (9,185 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore


 Supreme Court Might Decide Their Second Election
Supreme Court Might Decide Their Second Election
by Cenk Uygur | March 30, 2012 - 9:19am
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/node/42284

It was a similar crew of conservative justices on the Supreme Court that decided that their long-held beliefs on states' rights were irrelevant and made George W. Bush our next president in 2000. Now, they're back!!! And they might decide yet another presidential election.

Imagine the damage it does to President Obama to strip him of his signature accomplishment right before the election. It would also allow the Republicans to say -- "See, we told you so! It was unconstitutional all along. It was a wild, socialist over-reach of big government." It creates a permanent stain on the law -- as if there was something horribly wrong with it all along. And it takes it off the books at a moment when it is still relatively unpopular. So, before any of the popular provisions are put into effect it would go in the record books as a complete disaster.

Why don't you just hand the Republicans the election? Which is, of course, exactly what the conservatives of this court would love to do. These conservative justices are given far too much deference in the media. They are largely partisan hacks.

Antonin Scalia is a complete fraud. He will bend any so-called principle to get to the political result he wants. If it's upholding anti-gay legislation or striking down federal laws he doesn't like, he is a huge advocate for states' rights. But if it's marijuana legalization or euthanasia or Bush v. Gore, then he hates states' rights. So, which one is it? Here's how you can tell -- which side is the Republican Party on?

Remember, this is a guy who goes duck hunting with Dick Cheney and attends political fundraisers with the Koch brothers. Of course, he doesn't recuse himself from any cases that involve those people. In fact, he votes on their side nearly 100% of the time.

We've been hearing for at least thirty years about the dangers of activist judges. That it is so wrong for unelected officials, like judges, to invalidate laws made by the people's representatives. Now, all of a sudden, the Republicans love that idea! They want to interpret the Commerce Clause in a way that it has not been interpreted since 1937. They want to invalidate a sitting president's signature piece of legislation for the first time in 75 years. And their hack, partisan justices on the Supreme Court can't wait to do their bidding.

<<snip>> (his)
Which DUmmie will be the first to lick the spittle from the inside of the window?

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Poll_Blind (20,169 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. This one is ALL on Obama. He didn't have to adopt the individual mandate the insurance companies...

...demanded. This is his baby. He did NOT have to adopt that bullshit about an individual mandate.

His choice, his consequences. He knew he was rolling the dice in a big way but he desperately wanted big legislation and was willing to make questionable deals with the devil to get it.

And he got exactly that: A deal with the devil. Reminds me of the character in Faustus who wants something to remove his beard without a razor.

The crap he smears on his face eats off his beard, alllright, but also his skin.

PB 
I think PB didn't so much as lick, as to just smear it around for another DUmmie.

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Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:57 AM
 Jackpine Radical (33,040 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. He would probably never have gotten anything through without the Mandate.

Still, maybe in the long run we as a nation (but probably not Obama) would be better off if he had just stood up and proposed a public option so that there was no mandate to buy from private companies, and then taken his case to the public. But instead he did all that fancy bullshit about letting the Congress write the legislation. Even if he had lost (a likely outcome), he would have educated the public, and he might have actually won if he could get enough voters to pressure the Blue Dogs. At the very least, he would have made clear to the public who the enemies of accessible health care are.

I don't see how we would be much worse off now if he had done that.
Which party was in control at that time?

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Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:41 AM
polichick (28,896 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. If they do it again, maybe the walking dead American people will...vote democrat, again.  :rotf:

...finally wake the **** up. Really, what will it take?!?

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Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:42 AM
libtodeath (401 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. Sadly when we are all living under the american xtian taliban.
Sadly, you're really stupid, and live under a rock.
Fishing for DUmp cred?
Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: franksolich on March 31, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
Isn't "Cenk" that Turkish guy who interviewed my fellow alum Skins via telephone for his radio show that one time?
Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: Skul on March 31, 2012, 03:43:44 PM
Not familiar with that.
Is it mentioned at www.electstevedawes.com ?
Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: franksolich on March 31, 2012, 05:31:05 PM
Not familiar with that.

On the tenth anniversary of Skins's island in January 2011, the primitives were making a big deal about getting recognition from the news media, because my fellow alum Skins was going to appear on some Turkish guy's radio show.

They even promised a youtube of it.

Well, I can't hear, but I thought perhaps I should at least watch it, to see how my fellow alum was doing--much in the same way Kremlinologists at the State Department used to closely watch appearances of the socialist Politburo during the parades in Red Square on May Day; to see which ones were ailing, and which ones were healthy.

So I watched this radio show on youtube, although obviously I didn't hear what was said.

It was a disappointment; it showed the Turkish guy in real life talking with a cardboard cut-out of an ancient photograph of my fellow alum.  (Apparently Skins was actually talking over the telephone.)
Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: Mr Mannn on March 31, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
There is a flaw in the OP argument.

If the USSC wanted to overthrow and election, they would instead have agreed to hear the birth certificate case.
THAT would have thrown out an election.

All this does is show America what it already knows, Obama is incompetent.
Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: thundley4 on March 31, 2012, 05:48:01 PM
There is a flaw in the OP argument.

If the USSC wanted to overthrow and election, they would instead have agreed to hear the birth certificate case.
THAT would have thrown out an election.

All this does is show America what it already knows, Obama is incompetent.


Obama, an affirmative action law professor, is incompetent, and no longer is licensed to practice law. 
Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: diesel driver on April 01, 2012, 06:57:20 AM
Isn't "Cenk" that Turkish guy who interviewed my fellow alum Skins via telephone for his radio show that one time?

I think he was one of Keef Olberdorks co-workers (now FORMER co-worker) at Current TV.

According to Wiki, he had a show on MSNBC, but his time slot was given to "Weird Al" Sharpton.

His show preceded Keef's in the Current schedule.
Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: USA4ME on April 01, 2012, 07:52:38 AM
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Cenk Uygur

Imagine the damage it does to President Obama to strip him of his signature accomplishment right before the election.

Note there's no concern for the letter of the law or how this legislation will (negatively) effect the American people.  The only concern is liberalism, the Dem party, money, and power.

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Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: franksolich on April 01, 2012, 08:07:20 AM
I think he was one of Keef Olberdorks co-workers (now FORMER co-worker) at Current TV.

According to Wiki, he had a show on MSNBC, but his time slot was given to "Weird Al" Sharpton.

His show preceded Keef's in the Current schedule.

Okay, I found it.

Anybody know what my fellow alum Skins said in it?

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTJVfS_deeI[/youtube]
Title: Re: The SCOTUS election excuse
Post by: Ballygrl on April 01, 2012, 08:30:13 AM
Hey frank, I clicked that youtube, sorry I just couldn't sit through it, but it's from Cenk Uygur's show, I just went to wiki, do you think Cenk is a mole? how the heck can anyone go from 1 view to such an extreme view over a short period of time?

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Early years (1980s–1990s)

While in college, he wrote a column in the Daily Pennsylvanian criticizing affirmative action recruiting at the university and suggesting that all students should be "judged on their merits rather than their physical characteristics."[10] He supported the pro-life position on the abortion issue, criticized the radical aspects of the feminist movement, and felt Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was treated unjustly during his Senate confirmation hearings.[15] He also criticized organized religion as based on mythology and as a divisive force between peoples.[16]

He has stated that he worked for a time for Republican former New York Congressman Joe DioGuardi.[17] and voted for George H. W. Bush in the 1992 presidential election and for Bob Dole in 1996.

Uygur supported the Gulf War of 1990–1991, and supported the War in Afghanistan from its beginning in 2001 until 2009—though he has strongly opposed the Iraq War.[5]