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kpete (1000+ posts) Sat May-10-08 10:43 PM
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Sorry, Please forgive me if I’m not planning to "Get over it"
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Edited on Sat May-10-08 10:53 PM by kpete
Wednesday, May 07, 2008
On not getting over it
Andrew Koppelman
A few days ago, Justice Antonin Scalia, asked again about the charge of partisanship in the Supreme Court’s decision in Bush v. Gore to hand the presidency to George W. Bush, declared, “Get over it. It’s so old by now.†I’d like to examine the logic of this epigram, which has become something of a mantra among the decision’s defenders.
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There are times when “get over it†is kind and friendly advice. If I was talking to a close friend whose child had died a year earlier, for example, I would do what I could to help him get over it, and might even tell him that that’s what he needs to do.
The same words, though, would have a very different resonance if I were the one who had killed the child. Then it would not only be hideously inappropriate; it would be positively odious, showing a remarkable moral obtuseness. It might seem like a strained comparison. But I hope it isn’t too impolite to notice that tens of thousands of parents, here and in Iraq, actually have buried their children (casualty counts here, http://icasualties.org/oif / here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_conflict... and here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7967-200... ) because the Court, in its wisdom, decided that the man who had been rejected by a margin of half a million Americans, and who might well have lost the election if the Florida vote count had been allowed to proceed, ought to be president – and that man then recklessly plunged the country into an unnecessary and disastrous war.
The other problem is that “Get over it. It’s so old by now.†isn't even accurate. More Americans and Iraqis are going to die next week because of the Court’s astonishing abuse of its power. It would be nice if it were so old. But it’s not. So if you’ll forgive me, I’m not planning to get over it.
more:
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-not-getting-over-...
Quite frankly I hope you don`t ever get over it DUmmies because it was the correct decision based on law and it fuels your insane hatred to the point you are marginalized even in your supposed own party.
nichomachus (1000+ posts) Sat May-10-08 10:47 PM
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2. I'll get over it
when they pronounce a sentence on Fat Tony Scalia in The Hague.
Tangerine LaBamba (342 posts) Sat May-10-08 11:01 PM
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9. Scalia's a pig
A disgrace to the Court. He's just an embarrassment.
Now there is a lucid debate over differences of opinions. :whatever:
Agony (181 posts) Sun May-11-08 01:38 AM
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12. I SPIT in your general direction, scalia.
Edited on Sun May-11-08 02:02 AM by Agony
I will not and cannot get over this, ever.
(and **** YOU too, Agent Mike)
:rotf:
Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Sun May-11-08 05:19 AM
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17. Yeah. There are a lot of things I'm not ever going to get over and that one
made a lot of the others possible.
We're all going to be lucky if we don't pay with this maleficence with our very lives -- and that is no exaggeration. Untold numbers have so far and is there any sign it is going to relinquish? They certainly don't want this war to end -- on the contrary, they want to enlarge it.
No, I'm not going to ever get over any of this.
Nah...we will keep you alive in the camps. :-)
DUmbfuk. ::)
Festivito (1000+ posts) Sun May-11-08 07:45 AM
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24. I'll be partly over it when he resigns or dies.
I'll be over it when the rest of his five leave in disgrace.
They're still there, any questions?
You have a long wait.
stubtoe (845 posts) Sun May-11-08 11:07 AM
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42. Rehnquist died.
He should be impeached post-mortem IMHO.
Good luck on that one Skippy. :mental:
Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Sun May-11-08 08:18 AM
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27. Scalia
Scalia is what you call a "good" Catholic which means he is a "bad" Supreme Court justice. Sorry but he bows to the bishops so to speak.
He is rabidly homophobic, anti-women's rights (and abortion is the most fundmental of women's rights), anti-equality (the Catholic Church has always danced around the Curse of Ham question) and anti-affirmative action and based on his comments through the years he believes in biblical chattel law. Everything belongs to the man and no court has the right to intrude - if the man wants to beat his wife and children, that is the man's right. Most states in this country had laws based solidly on the concept of chattel law until the latter part of the last century. Slavery in fact was legal under the concept of chattel law. Everything belongs to the man. As long as the man happens to be a White Anglo Saxon Protestant aka WASP. Of course that would exclude Antonin Scalia and four other justices but why nitpick?
By the same token, he is supportive of oligarchy and the oppression of oligarchy. Read above. (The Catholic Church has always danced around the Curse of Ham question).
He also believes in the Noble Lie. Enough said.
You are not only insane but you are pathologically evil.
Annces (1000+ posts) Sun May-11-08 11:15 AM
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44. He is an awful person
Edited on Sun May-11-08 11:15 AM by Annces
Who does he think he is anyway, because he seems to be so full of baloney. And he went hunting with Cheney too. He is a person this world surely does not benefit from.
Based on your rambling,nonsensical post I would say Justice Scalia should consider himself a brilliant legal scholar and you should consider yourself an idiot.
Let it burn inside you for the rest of your pitiful,useless lives DUmmies.
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Even if one did not know of Justice Scalia, one would judge him an excellent man by the enemies that he has.
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Amazing. Liberals want to re-write the constitution to make a difference of opinion an impeachable offense... and that's for elected and appointed office holders. Imagine what they'd do to the rest of us.
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So when the SCOTUS upholds the law...as it was asked to do...the courts are wrong.
Yet if the SCOTUS had violated the law and ruled for ManBearPig they'd have been heroes?
:thatsright:
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So when the SCOTUS upholds the law...as it was asked to do...the courts are wrong.
Yet if the SCOTUS had violated the law and ruled for ManBearPig they'd have been heroes?
:thatsright:
Correct.....amazing isn't it? :mental:
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So when the SCOTUS upholds the law...as it was asked to do...the courts are wrong.
Yet if the SCOTUS had violated the law and ruled for ManBearPig they'd have been heroes?
:thatsright:
Correct.....amazing isn't it? :mental:
It boggles the mind.
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stubtoe (845 posts) Sun May-11-08 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #24
42. Rehnquist died.
He should be impeached post-mortem IMHO.
Moron.
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So when the SCOTUS upholds the law...as it was asked to do...the courts are wrong.
Yet if the SCOTUS had violated the law and ruled for ManBearPig they'd have been heroes?
:thatsright:
Correct.....amazing isn't it? :mental:
It boggles the mind.
It's so boggling I can't help but wonder how much longer their last brain cell has to go before it's gone for good.
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It's so boggling I can't help but wonder how much longer their last brain cell has to go before it's gone for good.
*ahem*
stubtoe (845 posts) Sun May-11-08 11:07 AM
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42. Rehnquist died.
He should be impeached post-mortem IMHO.
That last braincell you were asking about...yeah it just died at 11:07 am this morning.
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and ya know what? they all think and say the exact same tihing to a man. Just listen to Obama
:koolaid:
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In a few months getting over it will be a moot point.
BDS is a real condition. I endured 8 years of Clinton, but I never agonized and beat my head against a wall every night because of it.
Ann Coulter (bless her heart) was right. These people have turned politics into a religion. The insane hate at the DUmp would be alarming if if they were not so impotent.
Hey DU! :bird: I have a life, you don't!
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How could Scalia abuse power if Gore brought the lawsuit?