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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rebel on March 30, 2012, 09:24:57 AM
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...after the complete and total moron apparently ran his damn mouth.
COVINGTON, Ohio – A Cincinnati Bengals cheerleader faces prison time after being indicted by a grand jury Thursday for allegedly having a sexual relationship with a teenage student while teaching at an Ohio high school, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported.
The Kenton County grand jury in Covington, just south of Cincinnati, indicted Sarah Jones on first-degree sexual abuse and unlawful use of electronic means to induce a minor to engage in sexual or other prohibited acts. Each charge carries up to five years in prison, if Jones is found guilty.
---MORE--- (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/30/bengals-cheerleader-indicted-for-allegedly-having-sex-with-student/?test=latestnews?test=latestnews)
(http://cdn.jockpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/sarah-jones-bengals-cheerleader-04.jpg)
http://www.bengals.com/team/cheerleaders/SarahJ/772eb0af-d35f-4c26-b862-10f658415317
Idiot. Comments are hilarious.
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She could have performed all the sexual abuse on me she wanted............ :hyper:
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Why didn't I ever have a teacher that looked like that? :???: :bawl: :banghead: :tongue:
One of the two elementary school teachers living a floor below me is hot. Her roommate isn't bad, either . . . :fuelfire:
ETA for two things: WS, if you enjoy it, is it really "abuse?" :tongue:
Also, http://www.electstevedawes.com
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was it a male or female student?
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in her bio
WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO YOUNG KIDS ABOUT BECOMING A CHEERLEADER? Believe in yourself and stay positive. Live out your dream with hard work, discipline, and a big smile.
:lmao:
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...after the complete and total moron apparently ran his damn mouth.
(http://cdn.jockpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/sarah-jones-bengals-cheerleader-04.jpg)
http://www.bengals.com/team/cheerleaders/SarahJ/772eb0af-d35f-4c26-b862-10f658415317
God Bless America!
Idiot. Comments are hilarious.
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Interesting. If she were a guy, she'd be looking at 10 years + lifetime sex offender registration.
Instead, we get a bunch of "God, I wish it were me!!" comments. Sorry, I'm on the 10 year side of the fence.
Why a woman like that who can obviously have sex with 90% of ANY man over 18 she chooses to be with has sex with someone illegal, well, she deserves to be Bubba-ette's bitch for the next decade.
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She doesn't look nearly that good in her mug shot.
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She doesn't look nearly that good in her mug shot.
Her mom looks pretty rough too. :rofl:
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How old was the teen?
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Well, after yesterdays Canadian beauty queen it was difficult but I got son to look at her picture. :lmao:
Me, "Hey...Hey..."
Son, "Yes sir."
Me, "Come here and look at this."
Son, "Oh no, not another one."
Me, "No this one is a real woman and a school teacher."
Son, "Well."
Me, "You got any teachers that look like this."
Son, "No."
Me, "Well shes been caught screwing one of her students."
Son, "Lucky bastard."
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Millions of straight guys all over would kill a baby seal to have sex with her and she chases a kid?
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This is her mugshot.
(http://media.mugshots.com/thumbs/gallery/images/0f/14/Sarah-Jones-mugshot-11699106.400x800.jpg)
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This is her mugshot.
(http://media.mugshots.com/thumbs/gallery/images/0f/14/Sarah-Jones-mugshot-11699106.400x800.jpg)
And? I'd hit it twice and lick the taint to close out the night.
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I was just doing some research about this online. The student involved is denying anything happen, and the students parents have nothing but nice things to say about her.
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Btw, there is not a damn man here, including you GOPCongress, that wouldn't hit an NFL cheerleader while you were in H.S. if you say you wouldn't, you're lying through your teeth. Sorry, H.S. is 15-18, with 15 being on the VERY low end. 16 year old boys know right and wrong. They're not being "taken advantage of". Hell, this"ll hit home for JohnnyReb, but Joe, retired USAF Major and Vietnam Vet, Wild Weasel pilot. Of "Chapin Furniture", in Chapin, SC married his wife when she was 15. He's married to her this day. Pedophilia, to me, is a 30 Y/O manipulating a 12 year old into sex. We're talking about a H.S.er and a 25 Y/O hottie cheerleader, and she could have been 24 at the time.
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Rebel, the difference is I'm NOT a teen now. I'm an ADULT.
And let me ask YOU this. If YOU had a 16 teen daughter who did the nasty with her teacher, would YOU be so gung ho on not saying this wasn't kosher? I mean, have NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER?
Other than the fact I may go to jail for murdering this son-of-a-bitch,
What I would do at 16 is NOT the same thing as what I would do as an adult. Would I do her? Probably. But there is no contradiction anywhere in this sequence. Pure and simple. In the above example, my daughter may have wanted to do her teacher. It still doesn't detract from the fact he would be a perverted son of a bitch molester. Same with this woman.
OK, let's put this out there.
Does everyone here think that if an adult woman screws a 16 year old teen boy, should she go to jail for statutory rape? If so, how long?
Now, same question, but reverse the sexes: If an adult man screws a 16 year old teen girl, should he go to jail for statutory rape? If so, how long?
EVERYTHING is the same. No coercion, full consent. But you are the parent.
It's ok to be hypocritical in your answer. Just be honest about it.
(DISCLAIMER: My family friend works with victims of sex offenses, as well as offenders, so I probably have a lot more insight into this subject)
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Guys are different than girls. If you don't understand the difference, you're either a liberal or naive as hell. 17 isn't a child. You're not one of those guys that oppose me when I say a 16-17 Y/O murderer should be put to death, are you? If so, do tell me what magical fairy sprinkle dust they sprinkle on people on their 18th Birthday. They seemed to have missed me.
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Also, "Joe", of Chapin Furniture, retired USAF Major and combat pilot, married his wife at 15. He was 18. Was he a predator? Because they're still married. ....almost 50 years. Sorry, I don't do this absolute or zero tolerance bullshit. I'm intelligent enough to look at the situation.
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Well, after yesterdays Canadian beauty queen it was difficult but I got son to look at her picture. :lmao:
Me, "Hey...Hey..."
Son, "Yes sir."
Me, "Come here and look at this."
Son, "Oh no, not another one."
Me, "No this one is a real woman and a school teacher."
Son, "Well."
Me, "You got any teachers that look like this."
Son, "No."
Me, "Well shes been caught screwing one of her students."
Son, "Lucky bastard."
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
:rotf:
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She had to expect him to brag.
How does he NOT brag?
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Loose lips sink scholar ships.
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She had to expect him to brag.
How does he NOT brag?
It has been years but we in our neck of the woods had a very sexy teacher at the local High School talked and with sex convinced 3 young kids to kill her Husband.
Oh so easy to manipulate the minds of young kids with Sex and Promisses. This woman even dragged into the plot a young female student that had a mad crush on her. Perhaps not sexual but one of hero worship. The young girl thought she would be able to work with her in the future.
Now for the Nitty Gritty, MALES and FEMALES regardless of what the Woman's Organizations say are DIFFERENT.
Females need to think back to when they were 13-16 and what would cause them to keep quiet about some married old teacher hitting on them. Yuck, unless they can get A+ in their class or some great gifts, who wants to make it with an old man when one can do so with the Captain of any sports in school. What on earth do these kids have in common with some old man who is 28, with a wife and kids.????? Unless the child is being in some way black mailed or there is a subtle threat involved, what teacher would be hanging out with kids at the mall ???
Men are in it for the sex unless they go bonkers as this one male teacher and leave his wife and kids--also her age for a mid life crises.
Females that go for the little boys are a piece of work unto themselves. WHY, do they feed on youth, use sex as a weapon to get what ever they want or need that Adults their age do not give them???
Now Amy Fisher proved the exception to the rule, and the Idiot wife of an older lover to the teen, when shot still called out " My Joey would not do this to me".
Crap, the male gets the shit end of the stick and we call the females disturbed. Very interesting that both sexes are treated differently when caught in a sex mess with minors.
Two girls, two boys, had anything ever come up like this in their lives as kids, I believe more questions would have gone to my daughters as to how things came to pass then to the boys that were just all so happy to have something to screw . Fancy this is just homework for Sex Education classes.
Smart Moms keep the sheets on the beds of a teenager Male white.
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It has been years but we in our neck of the woods had a very sexy teacher at the local High School talked and with sex convinced 3 young kids to kill her Husband.
Oh so easy to manipulate the minds of young kids with Sex and Promisses. This woman even dragged into the plot a young female student that had a mad crush on her. Perhaps not sexual but one of hero worship. The young girl thought she would be able to work with her in the future.
That happened down here as well. An NCO's wife was screwing a 17 year old and got him and a friend to kill her husband. I'm pretty sure the age doesn't mean a damn thing. There are far more cases of adult men conspiring with the woman they're banging to kill her husband.
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Guys are different than girls. If you don't understand the difference, you're either a liberal or naive as hell. 17 isn't a child. You're not one of those guys that oppose me when I say a 16-17 Y/O murderer should be put to death, are you? If so, do tell me what magical fairy sprinkle dust they sprinkle on people on their 18th Birthday. They seemed to have missed me.
I did not SAY that guys are different than girls! And this has NOTHING to do with crimes of violence, such as murderers, in which I have no problem with them being put to death at any age.
But that is not the issue. The issue is legality, but you did not answer the question that I posed. I specifically asked what you would do in BOTH circumstances. So let me make it a bit easier to ask.
Let's say you have twin children, one son and one daughter, alike in every way other than their sexes: disposition, intelligence, etc.
One weekend, your son's female teacher has sex with him, while your daughter's female teacher has sex with her.
WHAT would your reaction be to EACH INCIDENT? Please answer that question and we can carry the discussion further. Consequential discussion points can be disease, pregnancy, etc., but answer the your reactions to each incident first, otherwise the discussion becomes fallacious.
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One weekend, your son's female teacher has sex with him, while your daughter's female teacher has sex with her.
WHAT would your reaction be to EACH INCIDENT? Please answer that question and we can carry the discussion further. Consequential discussion points can be disease, pregnancy, etc., but answer the your reactions to each incident first, otherwise the discussion becomes fallacious.
How old? BTW, did you mean to say "female teacher has sex with her"?
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Interesting. If she were a guy, she'd be looking at 10 years + lifetime sex offender registration.
Instead, we get a bunch of "God, I wish it were me!!" comments. Sorry, I'm on the 10 year side of the fence.
Why a woman like that who can obviously have sex with 90% of ANY man over 18 she chooses to be with has sex with someone illegal, well, she deserves to be Bubba-ette's bitch for the next decade.
I agree with you to the extent she could probably have any adult she wanted. In the big picture of things was this really a crime or just a stupid act on her part. Someone who committed a real crime will get a early release to make room for her in prison.
Incidently I'd say the same thing if the sexes were reversed and it was consensual.
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I apologize, Rebel. Let me restate it in the following way:
"One weekend, your 16-year-old son's female teacher has sex with him, while your 16-year-old daughter's male teacher has sex with her."
Now, my contention is they are both statutory rapes, and both should be handled equally harsh. Both should see jail time, and both should have to register as sex offenders. Why? Because the teachers are in a position of trust and influence over my children, and they abused their influence to my children. But this opinion is open for subsequent debate.
I agree with you to the extent she could probably have any adult she wanted. In the big picture of things was this really a crime or just a stupid act on her part. Someone who committed a real crime will get a early release to make room for her in prison.
Zeus, a "real crime" HAS been committed here! As far as someone else getting out, that's not in the cards.
Look, I've said earlier in a disclaimer that my family friend (wife's school mate) is a sex offender registration officer in Ventura County. In fact, she works with victims of sex abuse, including those whom you wouldn't classify as real "abuse" victims. These are the teen victims of adult offenders. The problem is not just in the physical act, but the emotional component and, in many cases, dispiriting consequences that the teen victim suffers through statutory rape, different than consensual sex with their peers. This is why I'm a firm believer in the current laws, despite popular belief that women teachers who screw teen boys should be held less accountable than men teachers who screw teen girls. Incidentally, I also hold the same views for homosexual encounters; the actual sex act is not the point; the statutory difference between adult and teen IS the point.
I really hope this has clarified my own position.
Finally, I also have NO qualms for adult sexual behaviors (other than teachers with their over-18 high school students). Any sex between consenting adults, including groups, is fair, and in fact, I approve whole-heartedly, because adults can handle consequences more readily than teens.
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I apologize, Rebel. Let me restate it in the following way:
"One weekend, your 16-year-old son's female teacher has sex with him, while your 16-year-old daughter's male teacher has sex with her."
Now, my contention is they are both statutory rapes, and both should be handled equally harsh. Both should see jail time, and both should have to register as sex offenders. Why? Because the teachers are in a position of trust and influence over my children, and they abused their influence to my children. But this opinion is open for subsequent debate.
Zeus, a "real crime" HAS been committed here! As far as someone else getting out, that's not in the cards.
Look, I've said earlier in a disclaimer that my family friend (wife's school mate) is a sex offender registration officer in Ventura County. In fact, she works with victims of sex abuse, including those whom you wouldn't classify as real "abuse" victims. These are the teen victims of adult offenders. The problem is not just in the physical act, but the emotional component and, in many cases, dispiriting consequences that the teen victim suffers through statutory rape, different than consensual sex with their peers. This is why I'm a firm believer in the current laws, despite popular belief that women teachers who screw teen boys should be held less accountable than men teachers who screw teen girls. Incidentally, I also hold the same views for homosexual encounters; the actual sex act is not the point; the statutory difference between adult and teen IS the point.
I really hope this has clarified my own position.
Finally, I also have NO qualms for adult sexual behaviors (other than teachers with their over-18 high school students). Any sex between consenting adults, including groups, is fair, and in fact, I approve whole-heartedly, because adults can handle consequences more readily than teens.
I agree there is the Position of authority that can muddy the waters so to speak. I just don't think consensual non coerced sex with a 16 yr old or older warrants prison time , Statutory law non withstanding.
Put real criminals in jail, sentence the stupid people to community service commiserate with their "crime".
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Quote from Zeus...
"Put real criminals in jail, sentence the stupid people to community service commiserate with their "crime"."
Not only commiserate, which could be quite appropriate, but commensurate too.
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I apologize, Rebel. Let me restate it in the following way:
"One weekend, your 16-year-old son's female teacher has sex with him, while your 16-year-old daughter's male teacher has sex with her."
Now, my contention is they are both statutory rapes, and both should be handled equally harsh. Both should see jail time, and both should have to register as sex offenders. Why? Because the teachers are in a position of trust and influence over my children, and they abused their influence to my children. But this opinion is open for subsequent debate.
Zeus, a "real crime" HAS been committed here! As far as someone else getting out, that's not in the cards.
Look, I've said earlier in a disclaimer that my family friend (wife's school mate) is a sex offender registration officer in Ventura County. In fact, she works with victims of sex abuse, including those whom you wouldn't classify as real "abuse" victims. These are the teen victims of adult offenders. The problem is not just in the physical act, but the emotional component and, in many cases, dispiriting consequences that the teen victim suffers through statutory rape, different than consensual sex with their peers. This is why I'm a firm believer in the current laws, despite popular belief that women teachers who screw teen boys should be held less accountable than men teachers who screw teen girls. Incidentally, I also hold the same views for homosexual encounters; the actual sex act is not the point; the statutory difference between adult and teen IS the point.
I really hope this has clarified my own position.
Finally, I also have NO qualms for adult sexual behaviors (other than teachers with their over-18 high school students). Any sex between consenting adults, including groups, is fair, and in fact, I approve whole-heartedly, because adults can handle consequences more readily than teens.
What age are the teachers in this scenario, and in what State did it occur?
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I apologize, Rebel. Let me restate it in the following way:
"One weekend, your 16-year-old son's female teacher has sex with him, while your 16-year-old daughter's male teacher has sex with her."
Now, my contention is they are both statutory rapes, and both should be handled equally harsh. Both should see jail time, and both should have to register as sex offenders. Why? Because the teachers are in a position of trust and influence over my children, and they abused their influence to my children. But this opinion is open for subsequent debate.
I'd beat the hell out of the male teacher and, depending on the female teachers looks, probably hi-5 him. Hypocrisy? I'm comfortable in my hypocrisy. Men are different than women.
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I'd beat the hell out of the male teacher and, depending on the female teachers looks, probably hi-5 him. Hypocrisy? I'm comfortable in my hypocrisy. Men are different than women.
Thank God for that!
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BTW, by no means do I not think she should be fired. She should have been canned the moment the incident was proven. I just don't think it should be criminal. A 26 year old having sex with a 10 year old boy? Definitely criminal. In many states, 16 is the age of consent for sex.
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Quote from Zeus...
"Put real criminals in jail, sentence the stupid people to community service commiserate with their "crime"."
Not only commiserate, which could be quite appropriate, but commensurate too.
You filling in for Lindanumbers :hammer: :-)
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You filling in for Lindanumbers :hammer: :-)
I liked how commiserate was used as an effective, and good sounding alternative to commensurate.
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BTW, by no means do I not think she should be fired. She should have been canned the moment the incident was proven. I just don't think it should be criminal. A 26 year old having sex with a 10 year old boy? Definitely criminal. In many states, 16 is the age of consent for sex.
Thus, my question in post 30.
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My sister married a teacher from our school, who happened to be our next door neighbor and a good family friend. They were married about a month after she turned 18. That was 1974 and their marriage lasted until he passed away last year.
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BTW, by no means do I not think she should be fired. She should have been canned the moment the incident was proven. I just don't think it should be criminal. A 26 year old having sex with a 10 year old boy? Definitely criminal. In many states, 16 is the age of consent for sex.
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsberg has stated that it should be 12 for girls.
She knows democrats.
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Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsberg has stated that it should be 12 for girls.
She knows democrats.
She did?
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Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsberg has stated that it should be 12 for girls.
She knows democrats.
She means that if a lib/dem/socialist is facing a statutory charge. Otherwise 18 if it's a conservative. Libs always think in terms of double standards.
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Fair enough Rebel. And for the record, in California age of consent is 18.
I won't bother any more with the discussion. In fact, most of the country agrees with the hypocrisy; that being women teachers being held to far less criminal standards than male teachers for that very reason.
I'd be interested in hearing some female points of view on this subject.
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Fair enough Rebel. And for the record, in California age of consent is 18.
I won't bother any more with the discussion. In fact, most of the country agrees with the hypocrisy; that being women teachers being held to far less criminal standards than male teachers for that very reason.
I'd be interested in hearing some female points of view on this subject.
Why are you opting to leave the discussion?
Stick around and continue to argue your POV. That is what 'discussion' is all about after all.
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Don't girls mature emotionally/mentally more quickly than guys? At least that is what they always tell us. So should the women who take advantage of young boys face stiffer penalties?
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Don't girls mature emotionally/mentally more quickly than guys? At least that is what they always tell us. So should the women who take advantage of young boys face stiffer penalties?
Did you say stiffer ? I was thinking more severe, but I like where you're going with this.
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Did you say stiffer ? I was thinking more severe, but I like where you're going with this.
It don't get any stiffer than 16/17 year old....even in death.
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I liked how commiserate was used as an effective, and good sounding alternative to commensurate.
Believe or not that was my intent, even if it wasn't quite proper usage of the term, but I gave pause because i figured someone would have to jump in and correct my "Mistake".
It's all good. :cheersmate:
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She did?
Ginsburg recommended that the age of consent for purposes of statutory rape be lowered from 16 to 12. [See pages 69-71 and the specific recommendation regarding 18 U.S.C. § 2032 on page 76.]
National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/55139/ginsburg-vs-mothers-day-tko/ed-whelan)
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Believe or not that was my intent, even if it wasn't quite proper usage of the term, but I gave pause because i figured someone would have to jump in and correct my "Mistake".
It's all good. :cheersmate:
I believe you. Now do you believe I "got it" when I replied to the commiserate comment ?
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I believe you. Now do you believe I "got it" when I replied to the commiserate comment ?
roger that , received 5x.
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Beauty.
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Interesting Chris, the article reminds that the Nambla wants to lower the age of consent for males to 8 years old.
Problems are just what is consent to an act to a child really mean to THEM. Kids are curious yes but they do not usually experiment with shoving big things up their butt.
As no one has commented on the up thread when a typo read how would you feel about a daughter who had sex with a female teacher, later corrected to a daughter having sex with a male teacher, I want to do so.
Brings back memory's of a female PE teacher in Highschool, a woman of size both in height and weight that would prance into the shower rooms and hung out in the changing rooms. Even at 13 years old we found, or most of us did this really creepy. We had privacy at home, even our Mothers seldom saw us Naked, or even our Doctors for a physical exam, there were the Johnny's and sheets covering most of us, still do to this day.
How does this effect the child's life in the future, does this mean they go life long with guilt and shame??? Will this cause confusion about sex as they mature????
I believe I would be 800 times more outraged if a same sex teacher or any adult, went after my kids. This is so much more unnatural then most anything I can think of.
This in fact can lead to sex for ones own pleasure and little thought to the object of their desire. ----May as well take a bunch of 7 Th. grade boys on a field trip to a farm and introduce them to sex with sheep.
Society in a Mans world covers up the transgressions of the Male Adult caught having the Hots for a Female student.
School districts just send them off to another school. What to do with a Female Teacher that has the hots for little boys ????
These school districts ran by Men mostly do the same thing when a Male teacher has the Hots for the little boys, or the Female teacher has the Hots for little girls. This cannot get out to the Public, things like this can put a black eye on the School Board and raise some ugly questions about who knew the teacher was a paedophile. Who knew the Teacher in question was a paedophile and going after opposite sex students.
More to this then some Teacher using their Authority to get off on some kind of power trip. There is Bureaucracy and people needing to keep quiet about this SHIT.
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I'd beat the hell out of the male teacher and, depending on the female teachers looks, probably hi-5 him. Hypocrisy? I'm comfortable in my hypocrisy. Men are different than women.
I am a woman and kinda agree with Rebel (do we have a sign of the cross smiley?).
A male's future isn't going to be ruined by everyone finding out he had sex with a female teacher unless she is like Bertha Ballbreaker
A female is more delicate and thus will have a tainted future either being called a slut or feeling like a slut.