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Interests => All Things Edible (and how to prepare them) => Topic started by: Mr Mannn on March 27, 2012, 07:20:41 PM
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Make fun of me if you want but I made my first purchase of a month's worth of freeze dried food.
I jumped on the survival band wagon. I'm not planning on a utter breakdown, but on a civil disruption where things will be real bad for a few months. Certainly I doubt that I am discerning enough to see any kind of collapse like this coming in time to make it to a mountain cabin.
so I will likely be stuck in a city. and there may be time to hit the store. likely the cans of chili will be gone, and all the bread. But I did pick up something that won't be the first to be snapped off the shelf.
Four bean with seasonings soup mix. 99 cents. It comes in the same plastic tube packaging that spaghetti comes in. There is a packet of dry powder, and four kinds of beans, none of which I am familiar with.
The directions say to bring a pot (7 cups) of water to a boil and simmer on low heat for two hours. add the seasonings in the last 10 minutes.
There is just no way I'm gonna watch a pot for two hours. especially with Zombies poking about. So here is the survival part. I'm gonna drop the beans in cold water like overnight add the mix when it looks ready, and nuke it till its good and hot.
If your in your car buggin outa town, its the kinda thing you could toss together and forget until you are hungry. Sure it will be a cold soup, but its food.
what do ya think, will it work? has anyone ever bypassed cooking time like this?
I'll be trying this over the weekend, so I will give you the results. But I post this to get any advice you can give me. believe me...I need good advice.
Oh, one other question. anyone try this making cold rice?
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I don't think the beans will get soft without applying heat. You don't have to watch the pot for 2 hours, you can go away and do something else. I wonder why they instruct you to add the seasonings at the end? I would be inclined to add at the beginning.
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Well, since you're bugging out in a car....several years ago, a woman wrote a cook book for cooking on the exhaust manufold of her and husbands semi truck. She had recipes and times for a whole bunch of stuff. Steaks to peach cobbler.
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If there is any thing acidic in the flavoring the dried bean wont get soft.
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To echo Karin, I don't think the beans will get soft without a long slow boiling. My experiences with preparing dried beans have been somewhat uneven, but I've generally found the cooking times on the packaging to be a wee bit on the optimistic side.
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To echo Karin, I don't think the beans will get soft without a long slow boiling. My experiences with preparing dried beans have been somewhat uneven, but I've generally found the cooking times on the packaging to be a wee bit on the optimistic side.
When ever I get a hankering for dried beans. I soak them all night and then cook all day in a crockpot. Throw in some diced up onions along with some crumbled up fried bacon and let stew for about the last hour or so.....while I'm cooking cornbread.
Add a dash of the bacon grease as desired for added heart health.....just keep in mind which end of the lifecycle you're subtracting years from... :-)
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Yeah, Johnny, that tracks my own experience a lot better than 'Two hours.'
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Watching too much "Preppers"?
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Watching too much "Preppers"?
That old missle silo was pretty cool.
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OK, will an overnight soak work with rice?
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Ever tried recipes for lentils Indian/Pakistani style? I have a friend who is teaching me to cook Pakistani food. We make Moong dal all the time. You don't have to soak the lentils and it's ready in an hour or so. It's super cheap and tasty. If you want recipes, let me know. You might need to buy a few spices you don't currently own, but they are cheap too :).
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I'm gonna try to get beans soft with just water this weekend. I may have to get a solar stove. that will be interesting.
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Ever tried recipes for lentils Indian/Pakistani style? I have a friend who is teaching me to cook Pakistani food. We make Moong dal all the time. You don't have to soak the lentils and it's ready in an hour or so. It's super cheap and tasty. If you want recipes, let me know. You might need to buy a few spices you don't currently own, but they are cheap too :).
Please do add some recipes to the recipe forum. I'm always looking for tasty, cheap meals.
Speaking of soaking over night, I cook steel cut oats that way. Boil 4 cups of water, turn off heat, add 1 cup steel cut oats, cover and let sit over night. The next morning all you have to do is heat them up and they are done. Gives me 4-5 days worth of breakfast.
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Please do add some recipes to the recipe forum. I'm always looking for tasty, cheap meals.
Speaking of soaking over night, I cook steel cut oats that way. Boil 4 cups of water, turn off heat, add 1 cup steel cut oats, cover and let sit over night. The next morning all you have to do is heat them up and they are done. Gives me 4-5 days worth of breakfast.
I soak my oats in milk in the refrigerator... no cooking required.
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Please do add some recipes to the recipe forum. I'm always looking for tasty, cheap meals.
Speaking of soaking over night, I cook steel cut oats that way. Boil 4 cups of water, turn off heat, add 1 cup steel cut oats, cover and let sit over night. The next morning all you have to do is heat them up and they are done. Gives me 4-5 days worth of breakfast.
I am going to try that!
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I soak my oats in milk in the refrigerator... no cooking required.
And that too!
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:rofl:
If you like wet porridge, add more milk or let it sit longer. Eight hours (or overnight) is usually enough. You could probably make a large bowl that would last a few days if you wanted.
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Please do add some recipes to the recipe forum. I'm always looking for tasty, cheap meals.
Speaking of soaking over night, I cook steel cut oats that way. Boil 4 cups of water, turn off heat, add 1 cup steel cut oats, cover and let sit over night. The next morning all you have to do is heat them up and they are done. Gives me 4-5 days worth of breakfast.
CR,
Posting it now.
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:rofl:
If you like wet porridge, add more milk or let it sit longer. Eight hours (or overnight) is usually enough. You could probably make a large bowl that would last a few days if you wanted.
Never even though about that. That is a good idea. I am going to try it out.
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I might do that too. I usually made a single serving every day but got tired of fixing it. :thatsright:
Toss in a serving of fruit and yogurt and you have a breakfast party.
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You guys can go ahead and have that gruel....enjoy, ya hear?
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Make fun of me if you want but I made my first purchase of a month's worth of freeze dried food.
I jumped on the survival band wagon. I'm not planning on a utter breakdown, but on a civil disruption where things will be real bad for a few months. Certainly I doubt that I am discerning enough to see any kind of collapse like this coming in time to make it to a mountain cabin.
so I will likely be stuck in a city. and there may be time to hit the store. likely the cans of chili will be gone, and all the bread. But I did pick up something that won't be the first to be snapped off the shelf.
Four bean with seasonings soup mix. 99 cents. It comes in the same plastic tube packaging that spaghetti comes in. There is a packet of dry powder, and four kinds of beans, none of which I am familiar with.
The directions say to bring a pot (7 cups) of water to a boil and simmer on low heat for two hours. add the seasonings in the last 10 minutes.
There is just no way I'm gonna watch a pot for two hours. especially with Zombies poking about. So here is the survival part. I'm gonna drop the beans in cold water like overnight add the mix when it looks ready, and nuke it till its good and hot.
If your in your car buggin outa town, its the kinda thing you could toss together and forget until you are hungry. Sure it will be a cold soup, but its food.
what do ya think, will it work? has anyone ever bypassed cooking time like this?
I'll be trying this over the weekend, so I will give you the results. But I post this to get any advice you can give me. believe me...I need good advice.
Oh, one other question. anyone try this making cold rice?
Raised my kids on 4-5 6-7 8-9 bean soup Throw into a big pot, bring to a boil shut off the heat and wait one hour.
The seasoning pack is dehydrated ham, you can make this at home and when hard place in a blender and grind into a power that is the exact same of a seasoning pack.
Those bags of bean mixes with seasoning cost 2-3 times of the individual bags of beans. Experiment and make your own. ----------Throw a 1/4 cup of beans into a blender, 1/4 cup of different beans, turn the machine on to grind and stand back, pulse the sucker if you must until you have a fine meal of beans. Cooks faster then the whole bean and the fiber you get keeps you regular for days at a time.
Throw in some dehydrated onions and garlic, salt and pepper , Pack in a food saver vacuum bag and do so for dehydrated ham in separated packing's.
Cook this stuff until it is mush then add more water and add a spoonful of the ham stuff, add a potato or a bit of carrot and dinner is done in 30 minutes. No potato or carrot, no problem, bring along some bread crumbs to add , You have your protein, and carobs, add some dandelion greens to the pot.
When life is at stake who worries about the taste of food, one just needs food regardless of the taste and is greatfull to get it.
Panama as I was was a kid watched the street people cook raw rice in oil then add water to finish the cooking. These were the street people that lived in 100 gallon drums for shelter, if they were lucky.
When the Zombies hit there is no choice but to understand their thinking in order to survive yourself. Check them out on how they survived and take a page out of their history as to how you survive among them.
Shit when all goes to hell and we of the tecnology age have to face life as we never knew it, time to look back on all things from cooking, building shelter and surviving as did generations ago. Until technology can come back in our lives this will be a fight between those that have it and those that don't.
So far the enemy living back in the stone age has managed to somehow buy technology from advanced civilisations and are facing us down. They have our technology to use as a threat to others. Their people have yet to see a flush toilet or a Microwave.
Get a set of the Fox Fire books that instruct people on how to live as they did in the 1800 and survive, use what technology still available today to intergrate all learning and insure your children and grandchildren can live FREE.
I am so glad I am an old lady in these times, the future of my family is way too horrible for me to contemplate.
BTW check into the Warsaw Ghetto that had people that planned ahead for the German Occupation. They had food and weapons stored secret bunkers built and made the mistake of talking about it to their friends and Rabies.
Just a little bit of torture can expose even family members. We cannot be surprised at what pulling the toe nails out of an 5 year old will cause the parents to say, who whey will inform on, who will they expose just to save the child.
Do as you must for the future but be very careful what you say and to those you say it to. This is a one mans or woman's problem to save the family or selves. Were I to know of land to build a bunker on, last thing I would do is to tell anyone. Yes I would ask advice on many things for survival but it would be in a round about way, don't want a 7 year old to go to school and tell friends his Dad is building a shelter.
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That old missle silo was pretty cool.
Ya, but the dude was decidedly a Moonbat.
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Ya, but the dude was decidedly a Moonbat.
An ARMED Moonbat. That was kind of scary.
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OK. Friday Night 7:30. I put the beans in a container with two cups of water (seemed more than enough). Snapped the lid on and put in the fridge. 7:30 AM will be twelve hours. we will see if they get soft.
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OK, its 3 in the morning. checked the beans...some of them are soft! Others give when I squeeze them between my fingers.
Back to bed, BUT. The experiment IS a success! The beans softened overnight in cold water!
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OK, its 3 in the morning. checked the beans...some of them are soft! Others give when I squeeze them between my fingers.
Back to bed, BUT. The experiment IS a success! The beans softened overnight in cold water!
Of course they did!
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Of course they did!
At least on brilliant mind agreed with me...
now tell these two:
I don't think the beans will get soft without applying heat.
To echo Karin, I don't think the beans will get soft without a long slow boiling.
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OK, its 3 in the morning. checked the beans...some of them are soft! Others give when I squeeze them between my fingers.
Back to bed, BUT. The experiment IS a success! The beans softened overnight in cold water!
Glad to know that it was a success!
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Glad to know that it was a success!
The Zombies may come...but I'll still eat like a king!