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TheMastersNemesis
We Need To Silence RW Hate Radio Once And For All.
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I do not care about the POS on hate radio. We ought to silence hate radio. If we are going to survive as a country we need to stop these people from spilling so much vitriol. Remember they are calling for violence against Democrats, homosexuals, minorities etc in thousands of coded ways.
We need to toos O'Reillay, Hannity, Limball, Beck and others out of the country. They are not fellow Americans. If we let them persist the country will go down.
The killing of the Arab women is a casualty of the race and class war that hate radio is inciting. How many more innoccent people are going to be murdered because of the RW.
Addendum - We need to put maximum political pressure on them. Take away their sponsors. Go after them personally for being the racists, bigots and misogynists they are. To a Limbaugh routine on them. Confront them in public when we see them. Unless they feel the heat from fair minded people, nothing will change.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002467940
Earlier they wanted us right wingers to be rounded up for being mentally ill and our way of thinking becoming a crime, now they want to actually make conservative radio personalities leave the country, making them unemployed is no longer good enough.
A couple of voices of sanity in this thread,
arcane1
2. If only we didn't have that pesky 1st amendment n/t
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razorman
6. Absolutely. How inconvenient. Actually, this post sounds uncomfortably
similar to the "hate speech" it decries. Also, to what murders of Arab women is the poster referring?
If he means the various "honor killings" going on around the world, they are being perpetrated by evil barbarians who likely don't even own radios. As much as I despise the views of people like Beck, Limbaugh, etc., I am not going to pretend to be privy to some 'hidden hate code' in their speech. They have a right to their opinion, just as we do.
Occulus
14. We already have horrifying validation of the OP's premise
Radio Rwanda.
The Velveteen Ocelot
3. Sure is a shame we have that inconvenient Constitution standing in the way
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of silencing everybody we don't agree with.
"There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats." - Albert Schweitzer
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stop them
4. it does get in the way of a good totalitarian system...n/t
TheMastersNemesis
9. Totalitarianism Is What They Support And Advocate
Virtually all of the eliminationist rhetoric comes from the RW and hate radio. Beck talks that trash almost all the time in many subtle and even overt ways. What part of Rove's one party system mantra do we not understand. They silence others all the time with intimidation and scorched earth character assassination. We can play parliamentary games all we want, but they will win the war because they have bought all the messaging outlets. 90% of the dial is pretty much hate radio all across the country.
Lionessa
13. Rather than silence, perhaps accountability and some
regulations to stop the rampant lying. Other than that, what you suggest is just wrong on so many levels.
Be careful what you wish for, if we make lying on the radio illegal your side could find itself silenced.
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TheMastersNemesis
We can play parliamentary games all we want,...
Interesting things, these parliamentary "games." In that form of gov't, an individual can advance legislation and, if it passes and does well, that individual can then crow they were the one who introduced it to be considered. However if it goes bad, they can hide behind that same parliamentary procedure by rightfully claiming that a majority of fellow parliamentarians thought it was a good idea, too.
The one system which eliminates the ability to find shelter behind others for the introduction of bad policies is a dictatorship. If it's good, it's your fault, and if it's bad, it's your fault. Nowhere to hide.
It seems this primitive wants a totalitarian left-wing dictatorship. No surprise coming from Skin's island.
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Remember they are calling for violence against Democrats, homosexuals, minorities
For all you non-English speakers, like nadin, above is a good example of what we call "synonyms".
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Yes, silence everyone who disagrees with us.
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TheMastersNemesis
Remember they are calling for violence against Democrats, homosexuals, minorities etc in thousands of coded ways.
Alright. Who was the last one to have the code key and didn't pass it on!!
When I hear "John has a long mustache", only thing I can think of is that John needs a trim.
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Alright. Who was the last one to have the code key and didn't pass it on!!
When I hear "John has a long mustache", only thing I can think of is that John needs a trim.
They are much smarter than I am, they always pick up on the dog whistles that constantly come from the right, and I miss every one.
It's almost like they are making this up.
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Two threads about silencing us this weekend. Did something happen that I missed?
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Two threads about silencing us this weekend. Did something happen that I missed?
They are all just giddy that some guy that they classify as white blew away a black kid, and they can use that to try to score all kinds of political points.
When they get giddy, they really let loose what they believe.
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They are all just giddy that some guy that they classify as white blew away a black kid, and they can use that to try to score all kinds of political points.
When they get giddy, they really let loose what they believe.
Living in an area with a large black and Latino population, I've know for a long time that the two groups have an intense dislike for each other.
Nadin, living in S Cal. should know this as well. In fact, she should do an expose' on it for the benefit of DUmmies everywhere.
Bust some delusion balloons.
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Living in an area with a large black and Latino population, I've know for a long time that the two groups have an intense dislike for each other.
Nadin, living in S Cal. should know this as well. In fact, she should do an expose' on it for the benefit of DUmmies everywhere.
Bust some delusion balloons.
She is a trained historian after all. :rotf:
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Maybe you fascist f'n Progs should just start taking up arms so we can get this shit over with.
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As usual, the left is holding up a mirror and blaming the right for their own actions, thoughts and wishes. No one on the right calls for silencing opposition, they recommend voting them out of office. Only the left believes that all people must bow to their wishes.
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Living in an area with a large black and Latino population, I've know for a long time that the two groups have an intense dislike for each other.
Nadin, living in S Cal. should know this as well. In fact, she should do an expose' on it for the benefit of DUmmies everywhere.
Bust some delusion balloons.
I've noticed this too, but never understood why.
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Maybe you fascist f'n Progs should just start taking up arms so we can get this shit over with.
Two years, Reb . . . shit will start happening inside of two years.
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Two years, Reb . . . shit will start happening inside of two years.
If zero gets re elected, sooner.
I've heard that the 47% is up to 49% now. When it crosses the threshold, all hell will break loose.
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Every now and then the veil slips and the fascism is revealed.
I just know if progressives ever do get power, they will instigate a bloody purge, They want it so bad, You can just feel it, their hate is so strong. Murder is so close to the surface at DU.
Freedom cannot coexist when liberals rule.
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Maybe you fascist f'n Progs should just start taking up arms so we can get this shit over with.
I was just thinking gun sales in FLA must be through the roof after this. I remember seeing photos taken by a Cuban classmate of the camps they had in the glades back in the '60's. They were as well armed as the guys in Nam. (Maybe even better it the truth be known). A shoot out between the blacks and Latinos could be quite messy.
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I feel it fitting to post this:
http://www.orthodoxnet.com/news/WhySocialismAlwaysResultsInTyranny.html
By Adrian Krieg
WAKE-UP CALL AMERICA - 1998
The Controlling Elite Love Socialism for the People-Control Properties of the System, But for the Average Citizen the Results Have Always Been Disastrous.
In the 20th century there have been numerous political systems, but in the latter half of the century there were only two survivors, Socialism and Capitalism. So we have at this time in the Western world, which for all practical purposes controls the world, two opposing political systems. (I have already previously stated that there is no basic difference between socialists and communists. There are, however, some very important factors relating to socialism of which you should be aware. Socialism will not work in a free market economy and, as a consequence it invariably deteriorates into a totalitarian state. Anyone wishing to argue that point is asked to point to one single instance where this was not the result).
It therefore behooves us to remember who the worst despotic governments of this century were: Nazis in Germany, Fascists in Italy, Communists in the USSR, [Romania, East Germany, Bulgaria, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Cuba, North Korea, Cambodia, Vietnam, etc.] and China - each and every one of them a paragon of socialist endeavor. Their leaders; Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin [Ceausescu, Tito, Pol Pot, etc.] and Mao Tse Tung. The outstanding legacy of these individuals is that they each tried to out-do the others in the total number of their own citizens which they murdered. It is a fact that each of these men killed more of their own civilian citizens than they lost in military conflict.
The reason for this is inherent to socialism. It promises things that it cannot possibly deliver. When socialist politicians in power come to the realization that it is impossible to deliver on their promises and political unrest develops, they have two options if they plan to stay in power. First, they must locate a scapegoat on whom they can blame their inability to deliver. Any Jew can tell you who that was for the Germans and the Russians. The second is to develop, and rapidly so, a state security apparatus to keep them in office - the SS, the KGB, [Securitate, Stasi] etc.
The basic tenants of socialism are:
1. Seduce the populace into accepting the government as the arbitrator of all problems; government from cradle-to-grave
2. Begin delivering on those services to make the citizens dependent
3. Take away the citizens' guns
4. Increase taxes on all services while destroying any free market alternative services
5. Blame the chosen scapegoat for the inability to meet demand for services
6. Have the centralized national police force round up any dissidents
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Socialism cannot work because the cost of services must be collected in the form of taxes, and this is not a sustainable possibility. The reason is that since government pays for all services, neither the producer nor the consumer cares about the cost, and hence there is an uncontrolled spiral of inflation (today's medical costs are a case in point and healthcare is not yet totally socialized). Furthermore, the government has no funds or assets. It only has the funds it confiscated from its citizens. The total inefficiency of a centralized bureaucracy does not help either.
Once citizens are weaned on this cradle-to-grave concept and are no longer self-reliant, they become wards of the state and will not accept any reduction of services. The government subsequently has no option but to reduce services, and as popular resistance develops State repression begins. This is the socialist cycle. It has been found to occur in every socialist state in existence to date.
The current most outrageous examples of this are North Korea and Cuba. These two societies share much in common - both are socialist, both are totalitarian, both have more political prisoners then any nation close to their size, both have non-working universal health care, in both the citizens suffer malnutrition, and both have food and fuel rationing. Their leaders and party members, in the meantime, eat caviar and drink champagne.
Socialism can never work in any environment. It violates human nature and logic.
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The capitalist economic system differs greatly from its socialist adversary in numerous ways. While the socialist system is a top down centralized arrangement, the capitalist system, which can only exist in a free market economy that recognizes the right of private property, is totally controlled by the market itself. Interestingly, personal freedom, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness can also only thrive in free market economies. Capitalism is a sort of volatile and confusing situation where the capital markets dictate demand, price, and methods of distribution. The reason that the left is so very successful in criticizing capitalism is because it is not regulated and therefore difficult to explain. The reason capitalism works so well is that demand dictates production as well as price, thus avoiding market inequities and shortages.
Socialism's principal theorem is centralization of markets under government control. This has never worked and there is not one single instance in world history where centralized governmental market manipulation has been successful. This, however, does not deter the Robert Reichs (America's socialist Secretary of Labor who said, "Greedy corporations are screwing their employees, squeezing down wages while increasing profits." This statement, from an economic illiterate who has never in his entire life worked for, or in, a business that made a profit. He appears to me to be a little man with a Napoleon complex, who, while having no clue about anything to do with economics, presents himself as a great expert. Corporate downsizing, mergers, and staff reductions has a great deal to do with international trade policies, NAFTA, EC, WTO, etc. and very little to do with greed.) of this world, who continuously make every effort to centralize economic as well as social and political power for themselves and their Satori masters (the ruling elite).
George Washington said it best: "Government, like fire, is a good servant, but a fearful master." All capitalist functions are directed at free market concepts. A free market is one that serves society with little government interference. This concept is unpopular with the Satori because in order to attain more and more power they require centralization of all economic, social, and political functions. Because of their poor performance in the political frame they have altered their modus operandi and are now implementing their schemes through judicial activism. These judicial incursions, which by the way, in the United States are in violation of constitutional law, have been sold to the public based on the false misnomer that greedy capitalists don't care about the people, their welfare, safety, or health, but that politicians do.
This, without doubt, is a ludicrous statement. The capitalist must perform to market standards. Competition will put him out of business if he provides an inferior product or service. He is furthermore constrained by his customers, stockholders, board of directors, lending institutions, as well as numerous laws, and, if all else fails, product liability statutes. In addition there is a veritable alphabet soup of governmental agencies which oversee his product, conduct with employees, public safety, product safety, environmental compliance, and financial performance.
In fact capitalists are over-regulated, which causes a considerable burden to be put on the public in the form of increased prices. A noteworthy fact is: the most egregious acts against the consumer, the environment, and the public in general, have all been made by socialist states.
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A shoot out between the blacks and Latinos could be quite messy.
That would be like the Iran-Iraq war back in the 80s.
The proper policy is to ship more firepower to whichever side is losing.
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That would be like the Iran-Iraq war back in the 80s.
The proper policy is to ship more firepower to whichever side is losing.
The winning side will still result in a population percentage in the single digits.
Uh-oh. Did we just hint at a conspiracy to the lurking DUmmies?
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Living in an area with a large black and Latino population, I've know for a long time that the two groups have an intense dislike for each other.
Agree. I grew up in Tampa, and when I was in HS the biggest fights were between Latinos and blacks. And it was never one-on-one, it was in groups and with weapons. "Intense dislike" is too kind; they hated each other.
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They have the Legacy Media. No? :???: :mental:
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Living in an area with a large black and Latino population, I've know for a long time that the two groups have an intense dislike for each other.
Nadin, living in S Cal. should know this as well. In fact, she should do an expose' on it for the benefit of DUmmies everywhere.
Bust some delusion balloons.
Many "hate crimes" are Black vs Hispanic. There is a lot of distrust.
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Living in an area with a large black and Latino population, I've know for a long time that the two groups have an intense dislike for each other.
Nadin, living in S Cal. should know this as well. In fact, she should do an expose' on it for the benefit of DUmmies everywhere.
Bust some delusion balloons.
Yep! we've had problems here in NJ between blacks and latinos, blacks feel as if latinos are given preferential treatment as far as owning their own businesses and employment.
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TheMastersNemesis
We can play parliamentary games all we want,...
We played a little parliamentary game over here on Saturday.
The left got humiliated.
Not even enough MP's to fill a minivan (or retain "official" political party status for that matter).
Put that in your pipe and smoke it bitches.
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Two threads about silencing us this weekend. Did something happen that I missed?
http://www.electstevedawes.com/ And the fact DU is all up in arms about it. Nads and Stevie the Boy Wonder are collaborating now.
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We played a little parliamentary game over here on Saturday.
The left got humiliated.
Not even enough MP's to fill a minivan (or retain "official" political party status for that matter).
Put that in your pipe and smoke it bitches.
I read about that yesterday on the internet. Congrats! :cheersmate:
Now, if we could do half that good here come November... :yahoo:
However, in the 35-40 years I have been fighting the left (started out with public land closures back in the 70's), one thing you must remember. Never, NEVER think for one second they will just go away when they are defeated. They are like weeds, a disease, a cancer. Whenever you think you have them "under control", they spring back up again somewhere else.
Never, NEVER, NEVER, EVER stop attacking them, and never compromise with them on ANYTHING!!!! Remember, if you don't keep them under your boot, they will be in your face. And I don't care how "fascist" that sounds, believe me, the left wouldn't hesitate one second to do the same to the right!
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I read about that yesterday on the internet. Congrats! :cheersmate:
Now, if we could do half that good here come November... :yahoo:
However, in the 35-40 years I have been fighting the left (started out with public land closures back in the 70's), one thing you must remember. Never, NEVER think for one second they will just go away when they are defeated. They are like weeds, a disease, a cancer. Whenever you think you have them "under control", they spring back up again somewhere else.
Never, NEVER, NEVER, EVER stop attacking them, and never compromise with them on ANYTHING!!!! Remember, if you don't keep them under your boot, they will be in your face. And I don't care how "fascist" that sounds, believe me, the left wouldn't hesitate one second to do the same to the right!
Just like in gun control.
They haven't given up on a total private ownership of guns. They know the timing is not right. When they think it is, they'll call for a ban.
They won't give up on any issue.
There's only one way to totally stop them.
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TheMastersNemesis (573 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. I Do Not Consider Them Fellow Americans.
I do not consider them as fellow Americans at all. I am a veteran and I consider them just like the enemy. They are like the VC nor NVA in Vietnam in my books. I would not waste my time defending any one of them if they were in harms way. They are the enemy of democracy. They are deliberately killing this country.
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29. yeah? Well YOUR delusions don't hold sway.
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Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:38 AM
greytdemocrat (827 posts)
30. Yep.
According to the OP Super Genius you'd have to get rid of Mike Malloy too.
Great job Comrade!!!
Credit where due.
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TheMastersNemesis (573 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. I Do Not Consider Them Fellow Americans.
I do not consider them as fellow Americans at all. I am a veteran and I consider them just like the enemy. They are like the VC nor NVA in Vietnam in my books...
ahem...
(http://www.1stcavmedic.com/Jane_Fonda/Jane_gun.jpg)
This guy is either:
A) a rabble-rousing mole
B) so locked into his mindset he's oblivious to outside data that does not conform to his conclusions
C) he is aware but trying to obfuscate behind a wall of absurdities
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All of this BS, when you have Al Sharpton Marching around inciting even more race hate. Brilliant ****ers.
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Perhaps it's time to check on whether he's a veteran or not.
Cindie
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I read about that yesterday on the internet. Congrats! :cheersmate:
Now, if we could do half that good here come November... :yahoo:
However, in the 35-40 years I have been fighting the left (started out with public land closures back in the 70's), one thing you must remember. Never, NEVER think for one second they will just go away when they are defeated. They are like weeds, a disease, a cancer. Whenever you think you have them "under control", they spring back up again somewhere else.
Never, NEVER, NEVER, EVER stop attacking them, and never compromise with them on ANYTHING!!!! Remember, if you don't keep them under your boot, they will be in your face. And I don't care how "fascist" that sounds, believe me, the left wouldn't hesitate one second to do the same to the right!
:werd: ^5
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If your ideas were such a huge success then Air America would still be on the airwaves and Rush and Beck,Boortz and Hannity wouldn't be. Face it the only way your side will stop Conservative talk radio is to force your views to be heard and no one elses.
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Oh, lookie, Ban is crying because someone else has stolen something he posted before:
BanTheGOP
32. OP is a few years too late
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Frankly, we will have a tougher time to do anything the OP would like to enact. I wrote on this very aspect three years ago here:
"Return the Fairness Doctrine...NOW!!"
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BanTheGOP/59|
Of course, this would have worked in conjunction with banning the republican Party, which I argue is NOT a political party with first amendment privileges, but an organization that has criminal elements and intent with its purpose, which subjects it to existing RICO statutes.
The fact is the Obama administration should just enact its Executive Branch powers under the US Constitution and tax the radio stations out of existence, in much the same way he has bankrupted new coal mining startups. THAT would be the first immediate effect, and can be done virtually overnight.
Ha ha. Life sucks when you don't get the street cred you deserve, eh, ban :tongue:
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BanTheGOP
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The fact is the Obama administration should just enact its Executive Branch powers under the US Constitution and tax the radio stations out of existence, in much the same way he has bankrupted new coal mining startups. THAT would be the first immediate effect, and can be done virtually overnight.
:lmao:
Mole....
Somebody, alert the MIRT!
:rotf:
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"We can play parliamentary games all we want, but they will win the war because they have bought all the messaging outlets. 90% of the dial is pretty much hate radio all across the country."
Actually, in terms of voices on the media, I'd say we're more or less even. Conservatives control talk radio with the exception of NPR, and liberals control TV news networks with the exception of Fox News.
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"We can play parliamentary games all we want, but they will win the war because they have bought all the messaging outlets. 90% of the dial is pretty much hate radio all across the country."
Actually, in terms of voices on the media, I'd say we're more or less even. Conservatives control talk radio with the exception of NPR, and liberals control TV news networks with the exception of Fox News.
The liberals have also lost the almost universal advantage they had on the internet.
Back in the early 90's, when the WWW was young, it was dominated almost entirely by college kids on university accounts ( my first 'browser' was Lynx, connected to what little web there was via a Vax account ) - at that point, what wasn't military based was liberal. Unfortunately for the liberals, the internet is accessible by everyone, including those they would like to silence.
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Stupid Ban The GOP has to be stupid on a Nadine like level . Anyone care to help him out on who ACORN was helping out . SEIU ,the UAW and any number of other organizations that might not do so well with a RICO investigation on them?