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Allen West On Trayvon Martin Case: 'This Is An Outrage'
Florida Rep. Allen West, a high-profile conservative and one of two African-American Republicans currently serving in Congress, lambasted the local authorities in the handling of the shooting of Trayvon Martin.
"I have sat back and allowed myself time to assess the current episode revealing itself in Sanford, Florida involving the shooting of 17-year-old Treyvon Martin. First of all, if all that has been reported is accurate, the Sanford Police Chief should be relieved of his duties due to what appears to be a mishandling of this shooting in its early stages. The US Navy SEALS identified Osama Bin Laden within hours, while this young man laid on a morgue slab for three days. The shooter, Mr Zimmerman, should have been held in custody and certainly should not be walking free, still having a concealed weapons carry permit. From my reading, it seems this young man was pursued and there was no probable cause to engage him, certainly not pursue and shoot him….against the direction of the 911 responder. Let’s all be appalled at this instance not because of race, but because a young American man has lost his life, seemingly, for no reason. I have signed a letter supporting a DOJ investigation. I am not heading to Sanford to shout and scream, because we need the responsible entities and agencies to handle this situation from this point without media bias or undue political influences. This is an outrage."
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/allen-west-on-trayvon-martin-case-this-is?ref=fpblg
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002457561
Happyhippychick
1. Well there goes your career Mr. West. Your base will now turn on you.
Hope you had fun trashing the dems who are the only friends you will now have.
BanTheGOP
2. I call BS, you ingrate West
YOU waited until a few days to make sure you didn't piss off your constituents, like a lackey, when we ALL know that this was a racist, republican-inspired, Fox-news driven white on black hate crime. To HELL with what YOU think, IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU West who make me EXCEEDINGLY ANGRY!!!
I will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to DESTROY YOUR POLITICAL career, you scumsucking piece of human waste! You and ALL your teabaggers can just go suck an egg while the adults take over. I look forward to seeing you in jail!
How dare someone wait until they get the facts before weighing in with their opinion. The whole police department acted stupidly. :tongue:
baldguy
8. He just realized he's black.
Don't worry, it'll pass I'm sure.
RZM
7. I'm not surprised at all
The notion that the right is united behind Zimmerman is probably way off base. They aren't as angry as the left about it, but I see no major push to come to his defense, at least not from political figures. I mentioned on another thread today that Glenn Beck referred to him as a 'racist' and a 'bad guy.'
He's got few friends that count.
A glimmer of sense.
11 Bravo
9. Allen West has now turned into just another "N' word for most of his supporters.
Welcome to the real world, Lt. Colonel West. The teabaggers were willing to tolerate you as long as you toed their line, but you are now officially "uppity".
No, unfortunately he and other conservative blacks have always been that and worse to the left.
The DUmmies are quick to project their racist prejudices on us.
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baldguy
8. He just realized he's black.
Don't worry, it'll pass I'm sure.
Racist asshole.
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Did my level best to figure out why the DUmbass monkeys were all stirred up.
Everything the man said was true.
I read, and reread the statement.
Finally, I saw why they have their panties in a knot......
Let’s all be appalled at this instance not because of race
That's it. Nothing more to the story.
They totally ignored everything he said, and keyed in on that one statement.
Shameful, to say the least.
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11 Bravo
9. Allen West has now turned into just another "N' word for most of his supporters.
Bravo, you idiot, we respect the facts.
I haven't been following this case too closely, except to see you idiots try to turn it into a race riot, but if what Congressman West says is born out by the facts, I don't have a problem with it.
And if he is in error on the facts, well, I don't live there and I have enough of you idiots to swat at where I live so I don't have time to to correct Congressman West and I have to leave that to the people who voted for him.
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Rep. West waited a few days for more facts to come out DUmmie instead of flying off the handle right away and running and screaming into the night like you idiots.
BTW DUmmie I'm sure you didn't mean to copy and paste this part.
I am not heading to Sanford to shout and scream, because we need the responsible entities and agencies to handle this situation from this point without media bias or undue political influences. This is an outrage."
..........and Al Sharpton just did the shiite stirring on a national level for you racist DUmmies a few minutes ago.
ETA: To correct some Nadinisms.....shhhh...I think it may be a virus.
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Rep. West waited a few days for more facts to come out DUmmie instead of the handle right off the bat running and screaming into the night like you idiots.
BTW DUmmie I'm sure you didn't mean to copy and paste this part.
I am not heading to Sanford to shout and scream, because we need the responsible entities and agencies to handle this situation from this point without media bias or undue political influences. This is an outrage."
..........and Al Sharpton just did the shiite stirring on a national level for you racist DUmmies a few minutes ago.
Al and Jesse should spend more time in Chicago and other liberal havens and try and keep their brothers from killing each other. In LAor some other city they would have written this off as just another gang banger shooting, but they don't call 911.
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The fact that you idiots think his political views should be a factor in his views on murder is astounding. So, now he IS black again, since he comdemned the murder of a black man? You pathetic cretins.
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I think that the DUmp is more dangerous to race relations than any of the other racist groups. The other racist groups are open about their racism. The DUmp is just (if not more so) as racist as the other racist groups but tries to pretend otherwise.
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I won't be surprised at all to find out this "poor" guy was a gang banger and tried to intimidate his pursuer.
The left wants and is portrayin' this guy to be an innocent just walkin' down the street, and perhaps he is, but more often than not these guys are nothin' more than street thugs lookin' to make a name for themselves by standin' up to "whitey".
Trust me, been there, done that! These guys are always big bad gang bangers until someone calls their bluff, then all of a sudden they're victims!
I repeat, I could be wrong, but 17 and walk toward an armed man?
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Happyhippychick
1. Well there goes your career Mr. West. Your base will now turn on you.
Hope you had fun trashing the dems who are the only friends you will now have.
I have to say that I've pretty much seen Conservatives upset at this shooting, but the 1 thing I've seen from Conservatives but not others is this, why only outrage when a white or in this case an hispanic kills a black? where's that outrage towards black on black violence? where's the consistency? Just look at the South Side of Chicago's crime stats.
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As the election gets closer the race war needs to be heated up, the shooter is still being described as white by the media. He is clearly not white, but that doesn't help dear leader.
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I can set my watch by how predictable the DUmp is.
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West 2016
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I have to say that I've pretty much seen Conservatives upset at this shooting, but the 1 thing I've seen from Conservatives but not others is this, why only outrage when a white or in this case an hispanic kills a black? where's that outrage towards black on black violence? where's the consistency? Just look at the South Side of Chicago's crime stats.
If the kid was white and the shooter black I know damn well Holder wouldn't be involved.
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**** you DU. Everyone I have heard (left or right) think this is outrageous but it is only the left who want to scream racism and blame their political foes. You people use real victims (by the way, the victim is Trayvon not YOU DU) to revel in your own victimization. Allen West did what everyone should do, wait until he got the facts. Something the left rarely, if ever, does.
You can't stand that we have Allen West when you have the race baiters Jessie Jackson, Al Sharton, Shelia Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel, John Conyers... I could go on and on and on.
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**** you DU. Everyone I have heard (left or right) think this is outrageous but it is only the left who want to scream racism and blame their political foes.
The 2 worst things that could happen to DU are:
No loss of innocent life
You not being a racist.
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**** you DU. Everyone I have heard (left or right) think this is outrageous but it is only the left who want to scream racism and blame their political foes. You people use real victims (by the way, the victim is Trayvon not YOU DU) to revel in your own victimization. Allen West did what everyone should do, wait until he got the facts. Something the left rarely, if ever, does.
You can't stand that we have Allen West when you have the race baiters Jessie Jackson, Al Sharton, Shelia Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel, John Conyers... I could go on and on and on.
True words, but conservatives are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Facts to a DUmmy are like sunlight to a vampire.
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Here (http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next) is an interesting article about the shooting, it certainly doesn't square with what I've read at the dump.
- The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
- The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
- Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
- Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.
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And WTF is Col West talking about OBL for? How is that relevant in any way at all to the already heated discussion? Piss poor judgement West.
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11 Bravo
9. Allen West has now turned into just another "N' word for most of his supporters.
Welcome to the real world, Lt. Colonel West. The teabaggers were willing to tolerate you as long as you toed their line, but you are now officially "uppity".
Regardless of whether Zimmerman was right or wrong, it's kind of irritating to see a make-believe phony soldier like DUmmy numbersBoo trying to smear an honest-to-god military hero like Col. West.
It's sort of like TomInTib attacking Sgt. York
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I've yet to find a conservative who isn't outraged. The difference between West and you people, he would have been outraged regardless of the color of the kid who was killed. Even if we didn't agree with him, we aren't like you, we actually respect people who share our values even when we don't share the same opinions about every single issue.
Cindie
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Exactly. Looks like the kid attacked Zimmerman and so Zimmerman managed to get his gun out and USE it. I sincerely doubt that the kid knew Zimmerman even had a gun...else he wouldn't have started the confrontation.
Also read elsewhere that the "kid", who is 6'3", was on a 5-day suspension from his school. Can't wait to find out what he was actually suspended for.
Also....oh hell, here's the thread. It's easier to link to it than repeat all of the details....since it's a three-page thread:
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?48103-Trayvon-Martin-Debunking-thread
Here (http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next) is an interesting article about the shooting, it certainly doesn't square with what I've read at the dump.
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Hmm, hey HappyHippyChick, you dumb slut, I expressed the same opinion yesterday. Is my admin position here about to be gone? :whatever:
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I've yet to find a conservative who isn't outraged.
Well, you have found one now. I'm not outraged, because I don't yet know what happened, nor do any of the vigilantes who want Zimmerman's scalp.
I'm also not impressed by a years-old photo that's being used to whip up racial hate, to energize the Kenyan's reelection.
Make no mistake, the Justice Department is coming onto the scene as a branch of the muslim's campaign committee.
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Exactly. Looks like the kid attacked Zimmerman and so Zimmerman managed to get his gun out and USE it. I sincerely doubt that the kid knew Zimmerman even had a gun...else he wouldn't have started the confrontation.
All due respect, but that's a bunch of bullshit.
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Well, you have found one now. I'm not outraged, because I don't yet know what happened, nor do any of the vigilantes who want Zimmerman's scalp.
I'm also not impressed by a years-old photo that's being used to whip up racial hate, to energize the Kenyan's reelection.
Make no mistake, the Justice Department is coming onto the scene as a branch of the muslim's campaign committee.
I thought the 911 tapes showed that Zimmerman was the one giving chase and that he was told NOT to pursue.
Cindie
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I thought the 911 tapes showed that Zimmerman was the one giving chase and that he was told NOT to pursue.
Cindie
You were not there, and I was not there. But assume Zimmerman complied w/ 911 and broke off, then suppose other guy decides he wants to teach the old guy that chased him a lesson. From the police report Zimmerman's back was wet and he was bloodied.
Maybe just a few too many people jump to conclusions and a good guy, doing neighborhood watch, is having his life ripped apart. Maybe he pushed the kid too hard and over reacted when the kid pushed back. We simply do not know exactly what happened.
I hope we learn the truth and I hope Zimmerman goes to jail if he deserves to. I also hope he walks free with an apology from CNN, et al if he deserves to be free.
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**** you DU. Everyone I have heard (left or right) think this is outrageous but it is only the left who want to scream racism and blame their political foes. You people use real victims (by the way, the victim is Trayvon not YOU DU) to revel in your own victimization. Allen West did what everyone should do, wait until he got the facts. Something the left rarely, if ever, does.
You can't stand that we have Allen West when you have the race baiters Jessie Jackson, Al Sharton, Shelia Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel, John Conyers... I could go on and on and on.
Damn right, BEG! **** you DU! What a bunch of racist opportunists they are. Allen West doesn't conduct himself according to the color of his skin - it's his character and integrity. The DU assholes could learn a lot from him. As for the people BEG mentioned in the second paragraph of her post, they use the color of their skin to be victims. They have no character or integrity. They, too, could learn a lot from Allen West.
These idiots make me sick to my stomach.
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Maybe just a few too many people jump to conclusions
Maybe you're doing the same thing.
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Maybe you're doing the same thing.
You really think so? Quote the whole thing next time Rev Sharpton.
You were not there, and I was not there. But assume Zimmerman complied w/ 911 and broke off, then suppose other guy decides he wants to teach the old guy that chased him a lesson. From the police report Zimmerman's back was wet and he was bloodied.
Maybe just a few too many people jump to conclusions and a good guy, doing neighborhood watch, is having his life ripped apart. Maybe he pushed the kid too hard and over reacted when the kid pushed back. We simply do not know exactly what happened.
I hope we learn the truth and I hope Zimmerman goes to jail if he deserves to. I also hope he walks free with an apology from CNN, et al if he deserves to be free.
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You really think so? Quote the whole thing next time Rev Sharpton.
You just call me Rev Sharpton? :chairshot:
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You just call me Rev Sharpton? :chairshot:
yup... :-)
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yup... :-)
Aight, Kwame. :popcorn:
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Aight, Kwame. :popcorn:
In protest of the current administration, I am also black. No one should question my authentic blackness unless they would in the same breath would question Rev.Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton, or Rev. Jesse "High" Jackson's authentic blackness.
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Exactly. Looks like the kid attacked Zimmerman and so Zimmerman managed to get his gun out and USE it. I sincerely doubt that the kid knew Zimmerman even had a gun...else he wouldn't have started the confrontation.
Also read elsewhere that the "kid", who is 6'3", was on a 5-day suspension from his school. Can't wait to find out what he was actually suspended for.
Also....oh hell, here's the thread. It's easier to link to it than repeat all of the details....since it's a three-page thread:
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?48103-Trayvon-Martin-Debunking-thread
Nice find and a well reasoned analysis of what is known and what is propaganda for the left. Whenefer Weird AL Sharpton gets behind some race pimping the credibility of the incident approaches zero. Sharpton should have gone to jail for the killing of an innocent over the lies of a black teen aged girl named Twala Brawley. In short, if race hustler Sharpton is claiming injustice I don't believe it.
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Could I just highlight this because it's funny?
BanTheGOP
... You and ALL your teabaggers can just go suck an egg while the adults take over.
I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever bounces off me, sticks to you!!! :lmao: :tongue:
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Nads jumps in:
nadinbrzezinski Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:13 PM
4. Looking outside
Are pigs flying? Better check that umbrella.
and gets very sneakily smacked:
The Magistrate Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #4)Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:14 PM
5. So You say, Ma'am, It Is Raining Bacon Down Your way?
4 to 6 centipedes of rain, at least! :-)
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Nads jumps in:
and gets very sneakily smacked:
4 to 6 centipedes of rain, at least! :-)
If it's raining bacon, I bet there isn't much runoff.
Think WKRP and the Turkey fiasco.
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If it's raining bacon, I bet there isn't much runoff.
Think WKRP and the Turkey fiasco.
Oh the humanity!! :-)
(I used to work at a radio station that reminded me very much of WKRP -- funny place to work!)
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If it's raining bacon, I bet there isn't much runoff.
Think WKRP and the Turkey fiasco.
Always a classic...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg[/youtube]
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you guys had me at "raining bacon" :-)
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Jakes posted this link in the Nadin thread, it's worth reading:
http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next
Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin
Kyle Rogers
Charleston Conservative Examiner
Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this.
So why does one shooting in Florida warrant weeks of national news? Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?
Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details. Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6'2†football player. Is the media really reporting the news, or is this classic agitation/propaganda to advance a political agenda.
Literally thousands of articles contain at least one false statement in the first couple of lines. They usually read "George ZImmerman, a white man," or "shoot by a white man." Zimmerman is described by family as a multiracial Hispanic. His appearance is clearly that of a Latino/Mestizo individual. However, the media wants him to be white because that better fits the political narrative they are trying to artificially create. Many news articles have also claimed the neighborhood is "mostly white." This is also a lie. The neighborhood is only 49% white. It is over half non-white.
All the way back on February 27th, the local Orlando Fox station interviewed the witness who dialed 911. Almost none of the thousands of articles since have mentioned any of the details described by the witness. Some, however, have attributed false statements to this witness. On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.
1. The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
2. The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
3. Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
4.Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.
The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.
In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.
The media also characterizes Trayvon as a "model student." In fact, he under a five day suspension when the shooting took place. That is why he was staying at a house so far from his school on a school night. A laywer for Trayvon's family has blocked access to his school records. However, you have to do something pretty bad to get suspended for five days.
Now that you know the suppressed facts of the case, you can for form a better more balanced opinion. Maybe you still think Zimmerman was wrong to pull the trigger. However, I think you will come to the conclusion that the "mainstream" clearly is pushing an agenda. Even when they have to grossly alter and adjust a story to fit that agenda.
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Jakes posted this link in the Nadin thread, it's worth reading:
http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next
Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin
Kyle Rogers
Charleston Conservative Examiner
MSM,"We report, you decide decide and determine so you don't have to."
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Jake is quoting a source to the right of "Faux News." That's not gonna be treated lightly by the DUmp nutters.
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The police report (http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf) indicates that Mr. Zimmerman had a bloody nose and a wound to the back of his head. The 911 tape has Mr. Zimmerman screaming for help, and apparently there is at least one witness who says Trayvon was on top of Mr. Zimmerman, beating the hell out of him. Seems to me that the Sanford PD did their job.
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The police report (http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf) indicates that Mr. Zimmerman had a bloody nose and a wound to the back of his head. The 911 tape has Mr. Zimmerman screaming for help, and apparently there is at least one witness who says Trayvon was on top of Mr. Zimmerman, beating the hell out of him. Seems to me that the Sanford PD did their job.
I won't hold my breath waiting for MSNBC to report that rather important fact...................
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I won't hold my breath waiting for MSNBC to report that rather important fact...................
...or change the picture to a 6'2" 200 pound football player on 5 day suspension from school which the family lawyer had the school seal his records.....sounding to me like Trayvon may have been the one looking for trouble.
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you guys had me at "raining bacon" :-)
Me too !
( *miskie gazes into the sky and prays for 'bad weather' )
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Jake is quoting a source to the right of "Faux News." That's not gonna be treated lightly by the DUmp nutters.
The guy who wrote the article though got his info from the Orlando Sentinel. This is another red herring just like Republicans want to outlaw birth control, they can't run on real issues.
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Wow....
Just read this thread in it's entirity.
Guess the interviews that I saw with the Trayvon's mother, father, one of the eyewitnesses who called 911 were all lying.
The witness saw Zimmerman on top of Trayvon. Heard Trayvon screaming for help.
Trayvon was on the phone with his girlfriend and told her some guy was following him, when Zimmerman grabbed him.
Trayvon was unarmed, had gone to the quick shop and was returning to a gated community to the dwelling of his father's fiance where he was staying.
His mother identified the screams for help that were on the 911 call, as Trayvon's.
The eyewitness said that comments that were published in the local paper as being hers, were not hers.
Trayvon was shot IN THE BACK.
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I have heard the 911 tape several times that Zimmerman made, and he was specifically told to NOT follow the kid.
Zimmerman has not been arrested, he was not drug/alcohol tested, his clothes were not taken by police, his gun was not taken.
Article quoted in one of these posts, sure attributes a whole lot of crime to a gated community. Hmmm. Aren't gated communities supposed to be safer?
Doesn't it seem logical that if someone grabs you from behind, you are going to fight back?
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^ Yes.
I'm wondering when another round of the LA Riots are going to go down. Sadly, people like Sharpton fuel this.
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The president called him "BOY"...aren't we glad the president is black and not white.
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The president called him "BOY"...aren't we glad the president is black and not white.
That's on my list of words race hustlers try to extort into disuse.
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Bravo, you idiot, we respect the facts.
I haven't been following this case too closely, except to see you idiots try to turn it into a race riot, but if what Congressman West says is born out by the facts, I don't have a problem with it.
And if he is in error on the facts, well, I don't live there and I have enough of you idiots to swat at where I live so I don't have time to to correct Congressman West and I have to leave that to the people who voted for him.
Agreed.
I refuse to discuss this until ALL the facts are made public. This premature hand-wringing the media and its followers are doing is ugly and does a disservice to the justice system in this country. If the results don't turn out the way the media and race hustlers want, it's going to be ugly. I'm glad I don't live in that area... I wouldn't want to have to deal with the fallout. And Barack Obama isn't doing a ****ing thing to keep things in check by sticking his floppy ears into the situation.
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(http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/032612.jpg)
It's a 21st-century lynch mob.
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(http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/032612.jpg)
It's a 21st-century lynch mob.
Stealing that cartoon for Facebook.
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I have heard the 911 tape several times that Zimmerman made, and he was specifically told to NOT follow the kid.
Zimmerman has not been arrested, he was not drug/alcohol tested, his clothes were not taken by police, his gun was not taken.
Article quoted in one of these posts, sure attributes a whole lot of crime to a gated community. Hmmm. Aren't gated communities supposed to be safer?
Doesn't it seem logical that if someone grabs you from behind, you are going to fight back?
I saw an interview on FoxNews with a city council woman. She said that one of the investigator flatly denied that the gun and clothes of Zimmerman were not taken.
I also heard the dispatcher tell Zimmerman not to approach the kid. Not sure what made him disobey.
I wish that we would get an official statement. There are so many different stories it's hard to know which ones to believe fully. Rest assured NO ONE knows all of the facts right now...and we are NOT getting the whole story.
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I saw an interview on FoxNews with a city council woman. She said that one of the investigator flatly denied that the gun and clothes of Zimmerman were not taken.
I also heard the dispatcher tell Zimmerman not to approach the kid. Not sure what made him disobey.
I wish that we would get an official statement. There are so many different stories it's hard to know which ones to believe fully. Rest assured NO ONE knows all of the facts right now...and we are NOT getting the whole story.
One of the stories I read online the other day, was an AP story that was a compilation from 3 different reporters. I remember the first one was from New Orleans. Can't remember where the other two were from except none were from anywhere in Florida!!
Awful lot of copy/pasting going on in some of these reports. It's no wonder there aren't any clear FACTS yet!
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I saw an interview on FoxNews with a city council woman. She said that one of the investigator flatly denied that the gun and clothes of Zimmerman were not taken.
I also heard the dispatcher tell Zimmerman not to approach the kid. Not sure what made him disobey.
I wish that we would get an official statement. There are so many different stories it's hard to know which ones to believe fully. Rest assured NO ONE knows all of the facts right now...and we are NOT getting the whole story.
According to two articles in local FL papers, the dispatcher suggested he didn't have to follow him (quite different than being told not to) and that he was actually walking back to his car when he was attacked by Trayvon. Witnesses confirmed this.
Cindie
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I know why we aren't hearing these types of details on the owebumaManiaMedia, but why not FOX ?
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I know why we aren't hearing these types of details on the owebumaManiaMedia, but why not FOX ?
Mainly because they don't want to put out unsubstantiated statements. At this point, I would wait until official pronouncements by investigators before making judgments. Fox shouldn't jump in this cesspool unless they are quoting facts. Let MSNBC resist we much all they want with their non-news racist thuggery and hypocrisy. They will still be 23% of Fox ratings at best.
IMO, if Zimmerman is innocent, he has some serious lawsuits against MSNBC, the Black Panthers, and even the Martin contingent.
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Mainly because they don't want to put out unsubstantiated statements. At this point, I would wait until official pronouncements by investigators before making judgments. Fox shouldn't jump in this cesspool unless they are quoting facts. Let MSNBC resist we much all they want with their non-news racist thuggery and hypocrisy. They will still be 23% of Fox ratings at best.
IMO, if Zimmerman is innocent, he has some serious lawsuits against MSNBC, the Black Panthers, and even the Martin contingent.
Don't tease me like that. Be still my beating heart. Throw Al and Jesse in there, and I'll be in heaven.