The Doctor.
The Problem Isn't Guns... It's CONSERVATIVES with Guns.
Think about this, please. In a nutshell:
Here on DU, you will find the most socially responsible, safety-minded, and conscientious gun owners and advocates anywhere on the internet. I've put this to the test. Had I access to the advanced search function, I'd have one of the links right here, but if anyone wants, I'll explain it and do the digging anyway.
I know that pro-2nd DUers are an easy target because they are the closest at hand, but if anyone should decide to take an honest look at the gun violence in this nation, they will find that all liberals, including the pro-2nd ones (it's more complicated than 'pro-2nd', but for the sake of brevity...) are vested in ending the strife, corruption, and lies that lead to such tragedies.
We know damn well that Trayvon was shot because his killer was afraid of black people. We know damn well that there is an active element in the media and woven into our social networks that exacerbates those fears in people. Trayvon did not die simply because someone had a gun...
He died because a "CONSERVATIVE" had a gun.
When it comes to guns, the grown-up, thoughtful, and reverent attitude towards weapons of such power radiates from liberal types that know what they are dealing with and how important it is to educate people and relieve the pressures that cause desperate people, including misguided conservatives, to resort to deathly violence.
You have to travel a total 180º from that attitude to arrive at the ultimately childish, hyper-macho, and absolutely naïve attitude of abject disregard for the potency and potential for horror guns can cause that we find all the time in today's 'conservative' gun owner.
How difficult is it to actually point to the 'conservative' roots and ideologies that have compelled virtually every single act of violence that did not otherwise have a money or personal motive?
Let's put it this way: a stoned squirrel could figure it out.
I'd like to think that DU knows this already. Not because we're all necessarily 'stoned' or 'squirrely'... or some combination thereof, but because it has been obvious to all of us that the rejection of a civilized approach is entirely the method of 'conservatives'.
THIS is what we have to be afraid of. Not 'Guns', but the mêmes and propaganda that foster hatred and foment violence in people with guns who are too stupid to own them. We can't keep guns out of the hands of anyone who wants them without denying those who truly need them. If we tried to impose draconian gun restrictions I can guarantee you that the rabid conservative gun-nuts would have channels to obtain them, while the lawful liberals would be (slightly) more likely to turn them over. It won't work.
In the meanwhile, what this says is that we have to educate people about the danger of conservatives with guns. We have to get people to understand that the conservative mindset is based on fear and they are somewhat more likely to be carrying guns. We have to instruct people that dealing with a conservative is often like dealing with an animal that is already afraid of an unfamiliar environment and will likely respond with violence when clearly out of their intellectual, social, or conceptual depth.
I'm saying this without one ounce of humor or sarcasm. These people are DANGEROUS, and we should make sure that everyone is AWARE of that.
In the meanwhile, if anyone can think of any plausible law that would keep guns out of the hands of most 'conservatives', I'd love to hear it.
I have a few ideas myself.
The Doctor.
9. Start with an MMPI 2.
Then do a full evaluation to see if someone has irrational fears or prejudices.
That would screen 98% of 'conservatives'.
The Doctor.
14. Conservatives are more dangerous than Liberals.
Because they tend to be less civilized.
We should educate people about this.
jillan
19. How do you know that Zimmerman was a conservative? Did you see his voter id?
The Doctor.
9. Start with an MMPI 2.
Then do a full evaluation to see if someone has irrational fears or prejudices.
That would screen 98% of 'conservatives'.
The Doctor.
14. Conservatives are more dangerous than Liberals.
Because they tend to be less civilized.
We should educate people about this.
The Doctor.
14. Conservatives are more dangerous than Liberals.
Because they tend to be less civilized.
We should educate people about this.
The Southside of Chicago has Republicans? who knew!
The DUmmie is ignoring the fact that the guy that shot the black kid is Hispanic, even though his name is Zimmerman.
Response to The Doctor. (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 06:36 PM
jillan (28,951 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
19. How do you know that Zimmerman was a conservative? Did you see his voter id?
Response to jillan (Reply #19)
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 06:48 PM
Star Member randr (4,068 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. The reports of Zimmerman's frequent calls to 911
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indicate an unbalanced mental condition. I am not sure I would make a leap to call that "conservative". Certainly it should have raised red flags with local authorities.
And by the way DUmbasses, records as recent as 2009 indicate that 93% of all black murder victims were killed by other blacks, so there's no ethnic cleansing in progress the way you'd like to portray it. The black population's greatest threat is itself. I think it's despicable, the way you assholes are trying to fan the flames of race-hate for purely political purposes, while you all but ignore the stories of black-on-white hate crimes and the problems within the black community itself.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-3153497.html
And by the way DUmbasses, records as recent as 2009 indicate that 93% of all black murder victims were killed by other blacks, so there's no ethnic cleansing in progress the way you'd like to portray it. The black population's greatest threat is itself. I think it's despicable, the way you assholes are trying to fan the flames of race-hate for purely political purposes, while you all but ignore the stories of black-on-white hate crimes and the problems within the black community itself.The blessings of diversity.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-3153497.html
I called him a white guy because I thought he was. His mugshot looked like a white guy. My apologies. But it doesn't even matter. The guy, whether he was white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc murdered a kid with candy and tea for whatever reason. It's really unfortunate. :(
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/02/17/i-am-dr-amy-bishop/
My husband just bought me a gun. I guess I'm dangerous too. :whatever:
If you open carry, no one but conservatives will talk to you.
And by the way DUmbasses, records as recent as 2009 indicate that 93% of all black murder victims were killed by other blacks, so there's no ethnic cleansing in progress the way you'd like to portray it. The black population's greatest threat is itself. I think it's despicable, the way you assholes are trying to fan the flames of race-hate for purely political purposes, while you all but ignore the stories of black-on-white hate crimes and the problems within the black community itself.A very similar phenomena applies to muslims.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-3153497.html
I called him a white guy because I thought he was. His mugshot looked like a white guy. My apologies. But it doesn't even matter. The guy, whether he was white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc murdered a kid with candy and tea for whatever reason. It's really unfortunate.The fact they publish this character's junior high school photo doesn't make him an innocent, and doesn't necessarily make his death a murder.
I called him a white guy because I thought he was. His mugshot looked like a white guy. My apologies. But it doesn't even matter. The guy, whether he was white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc murdered a kid with candy and tea for whatever reason. It's really unfortunate. :(
The Doctor
...Let's put it this way: a stoned squirrel could figure it out...
In the meanwhile, what this says is that we have to educate people about the danger of conservatives with guns. We have to get people to understand that the conservative mindset is based on fear and they are somewhat more likely to be carrying guns. We have to instruct people that dealing with a conservative is often like dealing with an animal that is already afraid of an unfamiliar environment and will likely respond with violence when clearly out of their intellectual, social, or conceptual depth.
I'm saying this without one ounce of humor or sarcasm. These people are DANGEROUS, and we should make sure that everyone is AWARE of that.
No, they want this guy to be a lily-white W.A.S.P., and by golly, nothing is going to dissuade them.
And while the boy's death is tragic and unnecessary, would you dipshits over at DU be crying so hard had the kid been white and the shooter black?At the DUmp, it would have been an even bigger tragedy if the dead guy was a muzzie savage.
Yeah, didn't think so.
The Problem Isn't Guns... It's CONSERVATIVES with Guns.
My husband just bought me a gun. I guess I'm dangerous too. :whatever:Just picked up my CCW permit to go with the gun that DH gave me for our anniversary.
The problem isn't conservatives and guns, it's conservatives who don't have enough guns, stooooopid!(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1024/lyndanthemini.jpg)
I called him a white guy because I thought he was. His mugshot looked like a white guy. My apologies. But it doesn't even matter. The guy, whether he was white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc murdered a kid with candy and tea for whatever reason. It's really unfortunate. :(
We know damn well that Trayvon was shot because his killer was afraid of black people. We know damn well that there is an active element in the media and woven into our social networks that exacerbates those fears in people. Trayvon did not die simply because someone had a gun...
Just picked up my CCW permit to go with the gun that DH gave me for our anniversary.
A white woman packing sneaky heat. The primitives worst fear. :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Aside from all the bullshit the NAACP and every other race hustler out there is trying to pull, I don't buy Zimmerman's story. You can't just chase someone with a gun and hold them at gunpoint if they're doing nothing wrong. I hope they prosecute this idiot. I do, however, hope they leave the damn emotional and societal BS out of it and prosecute it on legal grounds alone.
I'm just waiting for all the facts to come out before I make any kind of judgement on this. The DUmmies on the other hand will claim Zimmerman is a freeper no matter what. :-)No way.
Wait, what, I'm a conservative and I have guns. See Dummies, no problems.
Now if the DUmbasses and their ilk were to violate my home, threatening my families health, well then I have a little something special for them.
Hell, I'll even be to prove that I used restraint in dealing with the DUmbass, because I'll still have 13-14 rounds left in the magazine when I'm done.
My wife has her carry permit. She has a Glaco carry purse and a fag-bag. Her carry weapon is a S&W 386PD. It's a 17 oz. 7 shot 357 mag.
I reload her ammo. It's a downloaded 38 spl. but it beats a stick in the eye.
BTW, don't let the race hustlers and the idiots at DU make you hate this kid. You don't know anything about him yet.
As of yet, no one murdered anyone.
The candy issue is a liberal strawman. It's being used to distract from the fact that Zimmerman had no idea what the "kid" had hidden in his hands, as they were hidden.
If the "kid" was told to stop and he refused, taking one step forward toward Zimmerman, I would have shot him as well.
Jess, can you point me to an article that states that? I just read one article on it this morning and from what I was reading the cops felt like Zimmerman was being truthful when he said the Trayvon assaulted him. Zimmerman was the one that called 911 and no one can tell which person was pleading for help in the background. It could have been Trayvon or it could have been Zimmerman.
IF it was Zimmerman and he had the means to stop his attacker then ... there was no crime.
IF it was Trayvon and Zimmerman shot him to death then there is a murder.
Unless you have some other information I would not call this a murder. It very well could have been justifiable homocide.
KC
My wife has her carry permit. She has a Glaco carry purse and a fag-bag. Her carry weapon is a S&W 386PD. It's a 17 oz. 7 shot 357 mag.
I reload her ammo. It's a downloaded 38 spl. but it beats a stick in the eye.
"Toots" packs a Walther PPK. Used to belong to her Daddy! He carried it in the front pocket of his "bibbies" for as long as I can remember!
****er was absolutely deadly with the thing. He got it years and years ago to protect the family at the homestead from copperheads! Never knew they smelled like cucumber until I visited him in West by God Virginny back in the early '80's!
This dope is actually suggesting that only conservatives are prone to violence, when we have a shit ton of violence coming from the Occupy fools.Indeed.
If I am walking in a neighborhood, where I or a family member/friend lives, I don't have to listen to some stupid neighborhood watch person. From what I understand, the dispatcher told Zimmerman NOT to approach the kid, but he didn't listen and played cop. That's only from what I have read. None of us were there... so....
I'm sure that Trayvon felt the same way.
How did that work out?
Wife and step-son have both gotten tbeir permits. I've passed the test, but haven't applied yet.The nice thing was that I just showed them my ID and my DD214 and that is all it took. Of course they took close to all of those 45 days they are allowed to get it to me.
We DO have a S&W 9mm. :-)
Did you miss the "self-appointed" part? This idiot was a cop wannabe. Types like that are normally hotheads that never pass the psych eval.
No I didn't miss it. It wasn't the time to argue semantics with a guy that has a gun and you have a bag of candy.
I'm no fanboy of Zimmerman's, but you choose your battles. This one was not a winnable
All that being said...the outrage in the AA community is a little hypocritical if you ask me. I don't remember them getting so up in arms when an innocent AA is shot by another AA for no reason other than to take his tennis shoes or just because he was in the line of fire of a drive by.
That's what bothers me. Where are the protests when kids and innocent people are killed everyday in the black community?It should bother patriotic Americans. But some narratives advance race hustling and race baiting better than others.
That's what bothers me. Where are the protests when kids and innocent people are killed everyday in the black community?
There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well.
The great Booker T Washington said it best:Or get off the lib plantation.
No I didn't miss it. It wasn't the time to argue semantics with a guy that has a gun and you have a bag of candy.
I'm no fanboy of Zimmerman's, but you choose your battles. This one was not a winnable
The nice thing was that I just showed them my ID and my DD214 and that is all it took. Of course they took close to all of those 45 days they are allowed to get it to me.
http://www.electstevedawes.com/