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Title: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Kyle Ricky on March 05, 2012, 12:28:55 PM
I am wonderring who you think was worse between obama and Carter. So which one and why? I don't know all that much about carter, just what I been told and read. He was pretty bad as a president, so they say.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: FreeBorn on March 05, 2012, 05:04:33 PM
Back in '78 I actually got to see Jimmeh play softball across the street from the White House.
Haven't seen Obungler in person but I've seen videos of his performance on the links.
So far as sports prowess goes I'd have to say the two are neck and neck, IOW they both suck equally.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Zeus on March 05, 2012, 05:09:00 PM
I think Obama is on course to make carters' presidency look like a raging success.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: NHSparky on March 05, 2012, 05:34:14 PM
As bad as Obumbler was, I have to admit that in March of 1980, Carter was far worse.  Consider where we were back then.

Malaise, double-digit inflation, unemployment near where it is now, gas lines out the wazoo (and IIRC, nearly as high of a price as now when adjusted for inflation), Iranian hostage crisis, and just announcing a boycott of the Moscow Summer Games.

So as bad as Obumbles is, I'll still have to give the nod to Carter at this point, but O has a lot of time left to seriously **** us over.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: DefiantSix on March 05, 2012, 05:41:33 PM
As bad as Obumbler was, I have to admit that in March of 1980, Carter was far worse.  Consider where we were back then.

Malaise, double-digit inflation, unemployment near where it is now, gas lines out the wazoo (and IIRC, nearly as high of a price as now when adjusted for inflation), Iranian hostage crisis, and just announcing a boycott of the Moscow Summer Games.

So as bad as Obumbles is, I'll still have to give the nod to Carter at this point, but O has a lot of time left to seriously **** us over.

The only problem about comparing the malaise, etc. of the Carter era to the horse crap of the O'Bumbles is that the gub'mint has gotten much more blatent about fudging the damned numbers which tell us how ****ed we are.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: NHSparky on March 05, 2012, 06:08:29 PM
The only problem about comparing the malaise, etc. of the Carter era to the horse crap of the O'Bumbles is that the gub'mint has gotten much more blatent about fudging the damned numbers which tell us how ****ed we are.

IOW, while you have the Tea Party folks who are rightly up in arms over it, most Americans don't, provided they keep getting their free shit.

Yeah, we're pretty well screwed regardless.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: obumazombie on March 06, 2012, 12:24:24 AM
owebuma is a far better vote buyer. He is also the inspiration behind the series of toys by Mattel. The inaction figure with the kung fu grip on your wallet right hand, and the sleight of hand job left hand. The owebuma bobble head doll, bobble not included. And the canadian made Magical Misery dunderBlunderbus tour bus. I notice owebuma doesn't drive around in that much any more. As for economics, owebuma's policies are set to sink the country. Carter only caused a few leaks in the economic ship of state.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Mr Mannn on March 06, 2012, 06:19:13 AM
Obama is worse cause he's a slut.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 06, 2012, 07:20:11 AM
Carter.  Why?  Because of him and his inaction with the Shah, et. al., we now have the ****ed-up mess that Iran--and the rest of the Muslim world--has become.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: DefiantSix on March 06, 2012, 07:55:01 AM
Carter.  Why?  Because of him and his inaction with the Shah, et. al., we now have the ****ed-up mess that Iran--and the rest of the Muslim world--has become.

Yes, but Carter only created ONE America-hating Islamofascist regime during his tenure.  Teh ReichsMessiah has at least FIVE to his credit so far, with 10 months left to his term.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: marv on March 06, 2012, 08:15:53 AM
The only difference between Jimmy and hussein is that hussein is doin' it on purpose..........
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Eupher on March 06, 2012, 08:34:16 AM
One of the photographs that will also stick in my brain vis a vis Carter was one of him finishing a run -- might've been a marathon.

I can't find it on the web - must've been scrubbed, because the photo was not at all complimentary.

Here's a link to the story, but no photo:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1095400/1/index.htm

Carter looked like death warmed over, and that image pretty much matched the mood of the country at that time. I always had the sense that that image did more to torpedo him as the complete failure he was than any other, especially his fellating of Yasser Arafat.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: obumazombie on March 06, 2012, 08:39:18 AM
One of the photographs that will also stick in my brain vis a vis Carter was one of him finishing a run -- might've been a marathon.

I can't find it on the web - must've been scrubbed, because the photo was not at all complimentary.

Here's a link to the story, but no photo:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1095400/1/index.htm

Carter looked like death warmed over, and that image pretty much matched the mood of the country at that time. I always had the sense that that image did more to torpedo him as the complete failure he was than any other, especially his fellating of Yasser Arafat.
Didn't he get old Yasser a Nobel peace prize ?
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Eupher on March 06, 2012, 08:42:15 AM
Didn't he get old Yasser a Nobel peace prize ?

Carter himself was presented that politically-arranged "honor" in 2002, but as the NPP is decided upon by a board of raging moonbat liberals in Stockholm, I would doubt that Carter had any direct influence.

But who knows?
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 06, 2012, 08:44:56 AM
Dumb and Dumber.  Not sure which is which.  The full scope of Carter's incredible blundering in Iran and Panama have only become apparent with the passage of time, Obama's blundering in Egypt and the Arab Spring generally, Iran, HCRA, and a runaway EPA don't look as bad now, but in the fullness of time, I expect them to mature into first-order nightmares (I omit Korea, since while he hasn't actually accomplished anything positive there, neither has anyone else since the Armistice started).
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: NHSparky on March 06, 2012, 11:11:33 AM
I will say this in faint defense of Carter, or in major damming of Obama...Obama had the benefit of history in looking at Carter's ****ups.  Carter had no such predecessor to use as a template.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: thundley4 on March 06, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
I will say this in faint defense of Carter, or in major damming of Obama...Obama had the benefit of history in looking at Carter's ****ups.  Carter had no such predecessor to use as a template.

Which makes his trying the same failed policies more of a failure.  Carter was never called a SCOAMF.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: CG6468 on March 06, 2012, 12:18:54 PM
Carter's gas rationing caused me to miss work at times. The rabbit-fearing freak was an idiot and still is.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Chris_ on March 06, 2012, 12:22:43 PM
Carter's gas rationing caused me to miss work at times. The rabbit-fearing freak was an idiot and still is.
At least you had a job to drive to.  A lot of people can't say that today.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 06, 2012, 01:49:02 PM
Carter was a naval officer and successful peanut farmer, while Obama was a community organizer. Just saying.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Eupher on March 06, 2012, 01:58:51 PM
Carter was a naval officer and successful peanut farmer, while Obama was a community organizer. Just saying.

Not to mention governor of Georgia. And I think he was in Congress somewhere along those lines, or that might've been in the Georgian congressional delegation -- I fergit.

With Carter as CIC, all I know is I was one poor mofo while on active duty in those days. Had money enough for two trips to the commissary, two taxi rides BACK from the commissary, a couple of haircuts, and a train ticket to get to work. Not much after that -- I think we got a pizza a couple of times. The DM rate was probably favorable by a couple of pfennigs enough to allow us that luxury.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: CG6468 on March 06, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
Carter was a naval officer and successful peanut farmer, while Obama was a community organizer. Just saying.

Carter was not a peanut farmer. He had a peanut warehouse.

That would go with his peanut brain.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 06, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
Not to mention governor of Georgia. And I think he was in Congress somewhere along those lines, or that might've been in the Georgian congressional delegation -- I fergit.

With Carter as CIC, all I know is I was one poor mofo while on active duty in those days. Had money enough for two trips to the commissary, two taxi rides BACK from the commissary, a couple of haircuts, and a train ticket to get to work. Not much after that -- I think we got a pizza a couple of times. The DM rate was probably favorable by a couple of pfennigs enough to allow us that luxury.


I do remember the dollar losing about a third of its value vs. the DM while I was stationed in Germany in those years (From 2.60-something DMs to the dollar, down to around 1.75 per), fortunately I didn't have a family to support then and didn't have any contracts (Like car payments or rent) that had to be paid in DM.  The value of the buck in the US was going to Hell at the same time, of course, due to out-of-control inflation while military pay completely failed to keep pace...all leading to the mid-grade NCO shortage crisis at the end of the 70s because not many high-quality guys were choosing to stay in service, they couldn't afford to and anyone who did stay out of loyalty was being worked to their failure point and beyond to take up the slack.  The Desert One fiasco finally brought the whole charade of fake readiness reports and capability gaps to light, and it also got Carter booted, then the damage could begin to be repaired.  You can't buy an off-the-shelf Army or Navy, and it takes a lot longer to fix one than it does to wreck it.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: obumazombie on March 06, 2012, 05:10:14 PM
Carter was a naval officer and successful peanut farmer, while Obama was a community organizer. Just saying.
He was also nuclear qualified, which is no small intellectual achievement.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: thundley4 on March 06, 2012, 06:02:55 PM
He was also nuclear qualified, which is no small intellectual achievement.

Yeah, not so much. Oh wait, I was too. It didn't take a lot of brains.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: obumazombie on March 06, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
Yeah, not so much. Oh wait, I was too. It didn't take a lot of brains.
Well, i think you are being overly modest. Plus I don't see owebuma measuring up anywhere near that intellect level.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: NHSparky on March 06, 2012, 06:22:44 PM
Yeah, not so much. Oh wait, I was too. It didn't take a lot of brains.

Same here.  And unlike Carter, I didn't piss all over the nuclear industry.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: thundley4 on March 06, 2012, 07:20:13 PM
Same here.  And unlike Carter, I didn't piss all over the nuclear industry.

I still support it whole heartedly.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: obumazombie on March 07, 2012, 12:26:47 AM
I still support it whole heartedly.
Ditto.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 07, 2012, 09:29:02 AM
Well, i think you are being overly modest. Plus I don't see owebuma measuring up anywhere near that intellect level.

Yeah, complaining about discrimination and demanding more entitlement funding won't really do much to change things when a reactor starts going south.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 07, 2012, 04:32:32 PM
I still support it whole heartedly.

Same here.
Title: Re: Obama vs. Carter - who was worse?
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 07, 2012, 04:42:05 PM
Carter had this race won by several lengths but there's a dark horse on the inside closing fast.