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Title: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Georgia Bulldog on March 04, 2012, 05:29:19 PM
Maybe she's telling the truth or maybe she's not...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002381972

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   kpete
 
I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"

SUN MAR 04, 2012 AT 06:30 AM PST
I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
bybeantown momFollow

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................. We sat down on the couch and she just cried for what seemed like forever. I held her and cried with her and said more things that I just can't remember now! Finally I got her calmed down enough to tell me the story from the beginning. The note was in her locker when she opened it before her first class. She was so upset that she went to her teacher in first period and asked to be excused to go to the bathroom. She said for first and second period she tried not to be too upset- she cried a little bit but was just trying to figure out who would leave such a piece of trash in her locker. By third period, she had shown the note to a couple of her friends and they were so helpful, trying to play detective and at the same time telling her she should just ignore the stupid people! She managed to get through a math quiz and Spanish test and headed off to lunch in a pretty solid frame of mind. And that's when it really fell apart; apparently, the girls from the day before were the authors of the note. They lined up behind my daughter to get their lunch tray and started in on her. "Birth control whore", "I told my mom you were on the pill and she said you were nothing but a little tramp" "My mom said some guy she listens to on the radio was just talking about girls like you- he even said you were a slut!" "Yeah, my mom said the same thing, said it's about time people spoke up and weren't afraid to tell the truth"! They laughed, they harassed, they said so many things my daughter couldn't begin to remember it all- she walked back to her table without food and told her friends what was going on. She cried through lunch and through the rest of the day. She said she almost went to the office to call me to come get her but she was trying to be strong and not let them win! The last class of the day, however, was the final straw- it's her history class and 2 of these little monsters are in the class with her. They start the class off by talking about current events. One of the little witches brought up Rush Limbaugh and the (male) teacher said that he was an American Icon- sometimes he says things that can be construed as insensitive but overall, he was one of the few people left in today's media who was not afraid to speak the truth! The girls began to laugh and the conversation apparently changed. I don't think the teacher had any clue as to what was going on. My daughter said the rest of the class was just a blur- when the bell rang, she ran to her locker and down to the bathroom.

I asked my daughter how these girls found out about her being on birth control. It had to have come from someone on the trip, but we have no idea who. It doesn't matter, really, I just would like to know. My daughter looked at me so innocent, so very sad and asked me "Am I a slut because I take a prescription birth control pill? I don't take it because I am having sex, I take it to help my periods- am I a bad person, Mom?"

AM I A BAD PERSON? My 16 year old daughter asked me if she was a bad person because she is on the pill! Who are we? What century do we live in? Who in the hell has the right to say these things? Who does Rush Limbaugh think he is? Why is he allowed to say these things and hurt people? Why have I spent the last 2 days trying to convince my 16 year old that she is not a slut?

On Monday, I am going to my child's high school and meeting with her counselor and principal. I don't yet know what I am going to say but I know this- nothing is going to take away the pain my daughter felt, the humiliation she felt, the indignation she felt. Nothing will make this all O.K., nothing will take us back to before this all happened. As a parent, you want to protect your child from hurt and pain. I didn't protect my child from this- I can only try to make sure that she suffers no more at the hands of these little witches. Or ignorant assholes like Rush Limbaugh.

the rest:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/04/1070800/-I-ve-spent-the-past-2-days-trying-to-convince-my-16-y-o-she-is-not-a-slut-?via=siderec

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earthside
2. Many teenage girls ...

... take birth control pills to alleviate severe acne.

The level of ignorance and hate that Limbaugh has engendered this time with his reckless language is beyond the pale.

Furthermore, it is so depressing that there are people out there who will defend him who don't even know what they are talking about ... it's just a kind of political tribalism run amuck.

Frankly, I don't think this Limbaugh/contraception debate is just a minor, radio personality controversy -- there are some real fundamental American principles and values under siege here. If Limbaugh somehow gets away with this, then I predict that the viciousness and hate from the right-wing, Tea Party faction will escalate into even more serious actions and behaviors.   

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msongs
3. so what "religion" do all these little perps belong to? nt   


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kag
4. You made me cry.

I have a 13-year old. She would have stuck up for your daughter if she had been there. Hell, my 15-year-old son would have too. My greatest anger goes to the teacher who is telling these kids that Limbaugh is a reasonable person to listen to.

I would have some choice words for the admins at that school. And my daughter would have a few mental-health days coming at the movies with me, eating popcorn and forgetting about ugly people.

I just don't understand why people must teach their children to be such loathsome, insecure, petty people.

Hugs to you and your daughter. She is a VERY brave person for trying to handle it on her own. I only wish she hadn't needed to.     

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The Backlash Cometh
6. This really drives the point home.

Limbaugh's destabilizing campaign is working. I hope the barrage of criticism against him continues.   

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Tennessee Gal
7. This story is horrific.

I just read the entire article and am quite dismayed.

It is solid evidence of what can happen in real life to innocents subjected to bullying due to the rants of ignorant assholes like Limbaugh and the just as complicit mothers of those girls who did the bullying.

When I have the time I plan to read all the comments and suggestions made below the article.

Thank you for posting it, kpete.     

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dickthegrouch
8. That's a school with a serious bullying problem

The 16 year-old needs to tell the bullies that they will be hypocrites if they use novocain next time they have their teeth cleaned. They will be interrupting another god-given function of the body - pain!     


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  Incitatus
10. And Republicans take offense to the term hate radio. nt             

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shcrane71
13. A Limbaugh fan, and FB friend reiterated Rush's diatribe against women on my page.

This person is a pastor's wife, and a school teacher.

Americans have given Rush his microphone on our public airwaves. He's abused his privileges by spewing filth, and indecency. He's solicited pornography over our airwaves. Howard Stern had to move to XM radio in order to say things that are outside the bounds of common decency, Rush should have to do the same.     

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shcrane71
18. So true, and Stern wasn't in as many markets as Rush is in. In MANY of the markets that carry

the Limbaugh show, there really is little or no competition. Certainly, there's not competition from talk radio. It's either country music, religious programming, and right-wing hate radio. And we wonder why whole populations subjected to that kind of propaganda for 20+ years has been consistently voting for right-wing extremist.       

Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 04, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
I didn't even have to read it to say, you are a liar kpete.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: thundley4 on March 04, 2012, 05:34:07 PM
TLDR.  Zero bongs, bouncies shouldn't be about family unless they are evil rethuglican relatives.  Besides, the DUmmiesalways try and make their bouncies relevant to the current news cycle.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: jukin on March 04, 2012, 05:39:29 PM
DUchebags, start your bouncy engines!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ballygrl on March 04, 2012, 05:40:12 PM
:bs: on your story!

BTW, me and a friend were talking to a couple of girls a few years ago, they were from South America and both supported Obama (yes we had a discussion with them around the election), my friend and I are in the same age group and grew up kind of sheltered, so we asked them about kids today, thinks like "is sex rampant" in the schools, you know what they said? they said the white girls were whores, would sleep with anyone just to show they were cool. That was interesting and eye opening to say the least.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 04, 2012, 05:42:06 PM
Ok I actually read the drivel. It's a "story" from dailykos. Still a bunch of BS.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: obumazombie on March 04, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
I have never heard that birth control pills were efficacious for acne. My wife, who is a Nurse, says she thinks it does, but I can't imagine it's an FDA approved use for the drug. But, as always, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ballygrl on March 04, 2012, 05:43:38 PM
update from the person who wrote the article at the Daily Kook:

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Update #2 I have been asked to update my post with this link to the petition to remove Rush Limbaugh from the Armed Forces Radio Network. Please, if you haven't done so, go sign this petition! We need to fight back- we need this idiot removed from the airways.

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Update #3 I forgot to say "thank you" for sending this to the top of the Rec List! I am so very grateful to all of you for your kind words and great advice! I need to take a little break- my family is going to take an afternoon trip together. Just get out of the house, and maybe go to a movie or shopping. I will be back later to comment and interact with all of you! BTW, I also wanted to say, I am not handling this all by myself- Beantown dad is very much involved! However, I cannot print anything he has to say on this matter right now :-)  He is beginning to calm down but this has devastated him as much (if not more) than it has me. His baby is being attacked and he just wants to mangle everyone involved! So, a break will do us all good I imagine! I will be back...
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ogre on March 04, 2012, 05:46:38 PM
Zero bongs due too the bouncy not being an original work by the gated primitive.

Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 04, 2012, 05:51:38 PM
Go read her updated version at the link.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: thundley4 on March 04, 2012, 06:08:33 PM
If the pill or other contraceptives are needed for some legitimate health reason other than contraception, then I would not have a problem with it being covered.  Unfortunately, that is a matter for the FDA to take up.  Insurance companies often refuse to cover prescription medicine if they are not being used for their FDA approved purposes.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 04, 2012, 06:12:15 PM
Call Nancy P. at once so the 16 year old can testify before congress....and let the world know that she might be a slut....are at least a safe lay.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 04, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
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kpete
 
I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"

Maybe she really is, but you really should find out first before shooting off your mouth.  Parenting like yours, always assuming your little hellion is an angel instead of examining the facts before attacking everyone else, is why this place is so ****ed already.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 04, 2012, 06:25:06 PM
If a girl wonders whether she's a slut, she probably is.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: sondrab on March 04, 2012, 06:37:27 PM
Okay, trying to not judge here but why would she be on birth control if she is not sexually active?  I keep open an honest comunication with my daughter for this reason. I was pregnant at 15 with the same man I am with today,( but was unable to support a child) hate that I had to decide but did decide on an abortion. I wouldn't just tell my daughter she has to be protected from my choices in life and put her on bc because of it. Now if its because of a history of female problems, ie, irregular periods ect. I would think that would have been part of your original post. But at that age, girls brag, and I can assure you she most have told so called friends or this would not even be an issue worth posting.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Delmar on March 04, 2012, 06:42:11 PM
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Response to kpete (Original post)Sun Mar 4, 2012, 12:22 PM
 kag
4. You made me cry.
Kag was actually moved to tears over this laughable bouncy?  How big of a sucker would you have to be?  I know that the DUmmies are stupid, but they can't expect us to believe that they're this stupid.  I didn't see a single skeptical comment.  I guess if you can believe that Sandra Fluke is a naive coed, you'll believe just about anything.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Splashdown on March 04, 2012, 06:51:23 PM
If a girl wonders whether she's a slut, she probably is.

This. Hi-5.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 04, 2012, 06:55:54 PM
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... take birth control pills to alleviate severe acne.

That's the excuse my next door neighbor (when still living in WI) always said when she put her 14 year old on BC.  Truth was, she was sleeping with EVERYONE who would get in bed with her.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Flame on March 04, 2012, 06:58:21 PM
Bull.  Complete total fabrication.  This is not the way teenagers speak to each other.  This is adult trying to sound like what they think teenagers would say and failing.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: dixierose on March 04, 2012, 06:59:56 PM
Okay, trying to not judge here but why would she be on birth control if she is not sexually active?  I keep open an honest comunication with my daughter for this reason. I was pregnant at 15 with the same man I am with today,( but was unable to support a child) hate that I had to decide but did decide on an abortion. I wouldn't just tell my daughter she has to be protected from my choices in life and put her on bc because of it. Now if its because of a history of female problems, ie, irregular periods ect. I would think that would have been part of your original post. But at that age, girls brag, and I can assure you she most have told so called friends or this would not even be an issue worth posting.

I remember having real painful periods. My doctor told me that if the medicine he gave me did not work, that birth control pills would be an option.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: longview on March 04, 2012, 07:03:21 PM
Some oral contraceptives can be effective against acne.  Some can be effective against debilitating cramps. 

This isn't the fault of Republicans.  Blame the Democrats who tried to muddy a discussion about the First Amendment by throwing in that chica and her birth control rant.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: thundley4 on March 04, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
Some oral contraceptives can be effective against acne.  Some can be effective against debilitating cramps. 

This isn't the fault of Republicans.  Blame the Democrats who tried to muddy a discussion about the First Amendment by throwing in that chica and her birth control rant.

Which as I said, I'd have no problem with a doctor prescribing them for those reasons, but many insurance companies might not cover it since they are not FDA approved for those purposes.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ballygrl on March 04, 2012, 07:10:32 PM
Okay, trying to not judge here but why would she be on birth control if she is not sexually active?  I keep open an honest comunication with my daughter for this reason. I was pregnant at 15 with the same man I am with today,( but was unable to support a child) hate that I had to decide but did decide on an abortion. I wouldn't just tell my daughter she has to be protected from my choices in life and put her on bc because of it. Now if its because of a history of female problems, ie, irregular periods ect. I would think that would have been part of your original post. But at that age, girls brag, and I can assure you she most have told so called friends or this would not even be an issue worth posting.

There are some medical reasons why girls/women are put on birth control pills, but the majority of the time it's for birth control.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: dixierose on March 04, 2012, 07:13:29 PM
Which as I said, I'd have no problem with a doctor prescribing them for those reasons, but many insurance companies might not cover it since they are not FDA approved for those purposes.

I would think that with medical advances since I was a teen (25 or so years ago) that there would be other alternatives now for those problems....but I'm not sure. I DO think that those reasons for birth control pills are a very small minority.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: sondrab on March 04, 2012, 07:16:13 PM
There are some medical reasons why girls/women are put on birth control pills, but the majority of the time it's for birth control.


Agreed but being a newbie didn't want to be a total bitch that said outright, yeah she's a slut if she's out bragging about being on bc so she can sleep with more guys and not worry about it.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: formerlurker on March 04, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
Ok, call me crazy here but HOW THE HELL DOES THE STUDENT BODY EVEN KNOW SHE IS ON BIRTH CONTROL?????    Unless of course she is in fact a slut.

That is all. 

Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: dandi on March 04, 2012, 07:21:05 PM
That one bounced so high it cleared Earth orbit two hours ago.

 :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: longview on March 04, 2012, 07:25:17 PM
Ok, call me crazy here but HOW THE HELL DOES THE STUDENT BODY EVEN KNOW SHE IS ON BIRTH CONTROL?????    Unless of course she is in fact a slut.

That is all. 



I wondered that, too.  Kids say stupid things that come back and bite them on the hip pockets once in a while.  Mine would have been in trouble for blabbing something like this.  Then I would have told them, "It will pass.  I guess you had to learn this the hard way.  You'll be okay."
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ballygrl on March 04, 2012, 07:26:55 PM

Agreed but being a newbie didn't want to be a total bitch that said outright, yeah she's a slut if she's out bragging about being on bc so she can sleep with more guys and not worry about it.

Welcome!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on March 04, 2012, 07:38:46 PM
I have never heard that birth control pills were efficacious for acne. My wife, who is a Nurse, says she thinks it does, but I can't imagine it's an FDA approved use for the drug. But, as always, I could be wrong.

http://acne.about.com/od/acnetreatments/a/bcpills.htm

Apparently, three are approved by the FDA, but only when other treatments are not working.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: sybilll on March 04, 2012, 07:52:12 PM
I wondered that, too.  Kids say stupid things that come back and bite them on the hip pockets once in a while.  Mine would have been in trouble for blabbing something like this.  Then I would have told them, "It will pass.  I guess you had to learn this the hard way.  You'll be okay."
I agree with this.  I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that she talked about getting laid to a girlfriend, and the girlfriend couldn't keep her mouth shut.
Having said that, I am sick to death of all of this birth control bullshit.  My work hours were cut, I paid $3.59 for gas today, and all the assholes care about is free birth control, abortifacients, and sterilization? 
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 04, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
My 18 year old daughter is on birth control for heavy periods. She is on the lowest dose and that seems to be working for her so far. She had terrible periods that lasted close to two weeks every month before she started the pill. I use to have terrible periods too until I had an endometrial ablation. 

This whole story is BS yet DU and the people at Dailykos (well over 500 replies so far) are lapping it up. I read the story to my husband. Didn't tell him where it was from or my opinion and he said it was a bunch of crap. Why are liberals so willing to suspend reality when one of their own spin these tall tales?
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 04, 2012, 08:09:42 PM
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... take birth control pills to alleviate severe acne.
Yes, of course. Young men have been telling young girls forever that having sex will clear up their complexions.

And when I was in high school, I got Playboy magazines for the articles.

It sounds to me like DUmmy beantown mom is trying to take over the slutty-daughter demographic from DUmmy Horse with no Brain.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: miskie on March 04, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
Ever notice how incredibly topical bouncies tend to be ? People are all over Limbaugh for his comments, and like magic a primitive child is suffering the consequence at the hands of other kids.

.. Because listening to Limbaugh & discussing current politics are what the average kid does while at school ..
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: obumazombie on March 04, 2012, 10:17:45 PM
http://acne.about.com/od/acnetreatments/a/bcpills.htm

Apparently, three are approved by the FDA, but only when other treatments are not working.
Well, I read the article, and I must admit you found a very nice tactful way of letting me know I am wrong. I was wrong, and I'm sorry that I was wrong. But not so sorry as when I have to tell my wife she was right, again.
But back on topic, what are the odds that this supposed slut is prone to acne, no other acne treatments were effective, and that she is on one of 3 birth control medicines that are FDA approved for treating acne ?
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Chris_ on March 04, 2012, 10:19:36 PM
She does have remarkably clear skin for a 30-year-old woman.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: obumazombie on March 04, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
She does have remarkably clear skin for a 30-year-old woman.
Good one.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ballygrl on March 04, 2012, 10:25:28 PM
This whole story is BS yet DU and the people at Dailykos (well over 500 replies so far) are lapping it up. I read the story to my husband. Didn't tell him where it was from or my opinion and he said it was a bunch of crap. Why are liberals so willing to suspend reality when one of their own spin these tall tales?

Their opinions are in the minority, they don't understand why, they have huge egos and need their egos stroked and their opinions reinforced by others, and since most of their views are diametrically opposite of most people they need to write articles like this to make themselves and others like them feel good. That's why the saying "annoy a republican by lying to him, anger a liberal by telling them the truth" fits so well, they don't care if it's a lie, if it makes them feel good that's all that matters.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: DefiantSix on March 04, 2012, 10:29:47 PM
My 18 year old daughter is on birth control for heavy periods. She is on the lowest dose and that seems to be working for her so far. She had terrible periods that lasted close to two weeks every month before she started the pill. I use to have terrible periods too until I had an endometrial ablation. 

This whole story is BS yet DU and the people at Dailykos (well over 500 replies so far) are lapping it up. I read the story to my husband. Didn't tell him where it was from or my opinion and he said it was a bunch of crap. Why are liberals so willing to suspend reality when one of their own spin these tall tales?

Suspend reality?  My dear lady, who was the last liberal you were aware of who spent enough time in reality to be credited with so much as az passing familiarity with it? :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: USA4ME on March 04, 2012, 11:45:36 PM
The beantown Koskiddie who made up this story writes...

Quote from:
*Final update tonight*

4. Someone just noted that this diary is being questioned as "too coincidental". I have no response to this. I won't try to dignify this with a response.

There's nothing to respond to that won't make your lie even more obvious.  You have no dignity, you anti-American trash, so just shut up.

.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 05, 2012, 07:22:18 AM
The beantown Koskiddie who made up this story writes...

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*Final update tonight*

4. Someone just noted that this diary is being questioned as "too coincidental". I have no response to this. I won't try to dignify this with a response.

There's nothing to respond to that won't make your lie even more obvious.  You have no dignity, you anti-American trash, so just shut up.

.

Oh but you did respond by bringing it up. Your "update" was a battle cry for every loser on DU and Kos to come defend your "honor".
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Airwolf on March 05, 2012, 07:23:48 AM
That one bounced so high it cleared Earth orbit two hours ago.

 :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

And will enter lunar orbit soon. Whole things a lie if it takes anyone two hours to fix a problem like this then you have a huge parenting problem. You as the parent should have been better at raising your kid so that they can and will talk to you. Otherwise your kid or kids are going to spend thier lives in constant therapy.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: jtyangel on March 05, 2012, 07:30:08 AM
Ultimately, this is the liberals fault, kpete and you want to know why? You have so convoluted the discussion to what it is really about that we get side-tracked on ridiculous issues. Now is the time, if this story is true, to tell her this is two pronged: first of all a commentator got out of hand and made a comment he regrets out of misplaced passion on the underlying issue and secondly the underlying issue is about whether or not we violate the first amendment rights of religious organizations and compel them to include coverage for certain procedures or medications(depending on its use) that they have objections too.

After that, you handle this matter as you would any other matter between teenagers. It sounds as though there are a group of children who do not like your child and have found anther reason to pick on her. As for how they found out, I would thank one of her 'friends'. Kids that age can be viscious and it's not Rush Limbaugh or conservatives or any daily issues fault that teenagers are behaving like teenagers do. Handle it as you would any other instance of teenage shittiness in my mind and for goodness sake give that child some thicker skin since this won't be the first time she has to deal with 'mean girls'(or boys) and there won't be any big bad conservative out there to blame it on.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: jtyangel on March 05, 2012, 07:40:06 AM
Okay, trying to not judge here but why would she be on birth control if she is not sexually active?  I keep open an honest comunication with my daughter for this reason. I was pregnant at 15 with the same man I am with today,( but was unable to support a child) hate that I had to decide but did decide on an abortion. I wouldn't just tell my daughter she has to be protected from my choices in life and put her on bc because of it. Now if its because of a history of female problems, ie, irregular periods ect. I would think that would have been part of your original post. But at that age, girls brag, and I can assure you she most have told so called friends or this would not even be an issue worth posting.


I do know some women take them for irregular periods; I would have been a candidate in my teens and early 20's, but I did not like the side effects of prescription bc. A girl does not have to be sexually active to take it, but I do think I"ve seen it prescribed far too quickly in many instances. Periods are irregular when you are a teenager generally because your body still hasn't figured out the whole regulating hormone thing, especially during a period of rapid changes to the anatomy. To me it seems like an extreme fix for a normal part of the female reproductive development. I know others will disagree, but I'm not a big believer in fiddling with the cycles if you can live with an irregularity here and there while the stage passes. I'm of the frank school of medicating so keep that in mind and with your grain of salt when I post of such things :lmao:
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ballygrl on March 05, 2012, 07:49:50 AM
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*Final update tonight*

4. Someone just noted that this diary is being questioned as "too coincidental". I have no response to this. I won't try to dignify this with a response.

Translation=It's a lie and I refuse to discuss it further.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Celtic Rose on March 05, 2012, 08:20:41 AM
I have never heard that birth control pills were efficacious for acne. My wife, who is a Nurse, says she thinks it does, but I can't imagine it's an FDA approved use for the drug. But, as always, I could be wrong.

I used it for acne in high school, but it wasn't as effective as I would have liked, and it ended up making me really depressed so I stopped using it. There was a bit of SHTF moment when my dad found out I was taking the BC pill. 

However, I would like to say that numerous girls were using in at my high school, and I never heard anyone say anything against them using it. 

Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Karin on March 05, 2012, 08:25:25 AM
Another bouncy ripped from the headlines.  They do this all the time.  It's lazy, uncreative, unoriginal, predictable.  And the DUmbasses lap it up every time.  Why don't they ever reach that age when a healthy dose of cynicism kicks in? 
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: seahorse513 on March 05, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
I would like to put in my two cents here...Teenage girls can be mean. These kind of happenings have been going on for years. Instead of a mother encouraging her to go on birth control, she should have been encouraging abstinence and selfrespect instead.

Acne is a part of growing up, so what are guys supposed to do when they have serious acne??? They live with it and use acne cleansers. I mean seriously people, what young teenage girl in her right mind would tell her doctor the truth?? Not many teenagers will admit they are sexually active to their doctor.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: jtyangel on March 05, 2012, 08:27:08 AM
I used it for acne in high school, but it wasn't as effective as I would have liked, and it ended up making me really depressed so I stopped using it. There was a bit of SHTF moment when my dad found out I was taking the BC pill. 

However, I would like to say that numerous girls were using in at my high school, and I never heard anyone say anything against them using it. 



Yeah, we did too and everyone knew who was using it for what reasons and the only time it was used to sting was generally if it was known that the girl was taking it to protect against pregnancy and even then, girls usually only threw that crap out there when they were fighting and being catty ie they didn't really believe what they were saying they were just being b*tchy at the moment. and this was back in the 80's no less when there was probably more stigma.

I could not take chemical bc either...it was like being in constant PMS. I hated it.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 05, 2012, 08:33:02 AM
However, I would like to say that numerous girls were using in at my high school, and I never heard anyone say anything against them using it. 

I have to agree, I was raised in a pretty darn Red State and even in the late 60s, nobody would have thought anything of it...nor did I with my own daughter 30 years later, even well-centered people make relational mistakes, and I'd much rather she was on the pill than struggling to support both herself and a living memento of some dumbshit loser whom she thought was cute, edgy, and interesting one night in her junior year of HS. 
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: wasp69 on March 05, 2012, 09:01:43 AM
Another bouncy ripped from the headlines.  They do this all the time.  It's lazy, uncreative, unoriginal, predictable.  And the DUmbasses lap it up every time.  Why don't they ever reach that age when a healthy dose of cynicism kicks in? 

Because they're perpetual children.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Rebel on March 05, 2012, 09:06:58 AM
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we need this idiot removed from the airways.

Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BadCat on March 05, 2012, 09:09:42 AM
Seeing as being a "slut" is a "badge of honor" for a lot of high school girls...this one may have been trying to earn it.

Whether by action or dialog, we don't know.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Chris_ on March 05, 2012, 09:37:16 AM
HEADLINE: Third-grader forced to apologize to Sandra Fluke for telling classmate "Yo mama is a Georgetown Law School graduate".
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: debk on March 05, 2012, 10:10:23 AM
I went on the pill a couple of months after turning 18 (1971), after many years of being a horrendous bitch in incredible pain, vomiting and having to leave class/school after I passed out (which is incredibly embrarassing when it was occurring once a month  :censored: ).

At the time I went on it, my periods were very erratic. I could have one, then less than 3 weeks later, have another, or I could go 6 weeks without one. It could last 3 or 4 days or as long as 10 or 11. I started out on the lowest dosage, and ended up on the strongest within months. Even on the pill, I still had 7 day periods, but at least I knew when they were going to show up, and though still on pain meds for a couple of days, at least I wasn't throwing up and passing out.

I was on it for 7 years, got pregnant with my daughter 3 months later. (yes, I was married and had been for a year). Was on it again in between kids, and back on it after my second. at 29. I also had my first ovary removed at 31 after the scar tissue from so many burst cysts at made the ovary attach to my abdominal wall. It was during the surgery, that my GYN said I'd have to have it all out within a few years, because not only was my uterus very tilted( he couldn't figure out how I was able to get pregnant without medical help) but that it was "constructed" the way it was supposed to be.

Not ONE time, did my insurance ever pay for my BC pills. Not one penny of the $3.50 a month they cost me. On the other hand, insurance did pay for my pain pills which were considerably more expensive.

My cousin, her daughter, and my daughter have all had trouble with their "parts" and their malfunctions from the time they were in their early teens. Kinda makes one wonder if the problems aren't somewhat genetic.

I recognize this is all TMI, but this whole birth control issue makes me livid!!!

The government does not belong in a woman's reproductive system. It should be between a woman and her doctor. The only onther individuals that should be involved are either a husband or a parent. NO ONE ELSE.

The only others who should be involved would be God and a woman's priest/pastor if wanted/needed.

NO way should a bunch of hot-air politicians who think they know more than anybody else about everything else.

I am so sick and tired of abortion being brought into political races. There is more debate about abortion, and now birth control, than there is anything else!!

Hello????? I can't make a living as a realtor anymore because of the mortgage/housing mess. I don't qualify for unemployment because I'm self employed. Yes, it was MY choice to be self-employed, but I didn't expect my chosen career to go belly up for 3+ years either. There are 1000's of people in our country, that are/were self employed like me, who, if lucky have found other jobs in the meantime....most making a fraction of what they were 4+years ago!!

Hello????? We're in a f'n war and the f'n President of the United States is spending day after day APOLOGIZING to the f'n enemy because a few copies of their Holy Book was burned. Ones that were damaged by being written in, and were disposed of the PROPER way. Yet he apologizes while the f'n people we are supposed to be liberating are killing our soldiers in retaliation!!! I might add that HE is the one who put us back full force into Afghanistan!!
And that's only a tip of the mess that the Middle East is these days. And let's not forget that those bastards want us all dead.

Hello???? Our manufacturing companies are falling by the wayside, because they can't survive anymore. Whether it be from the union demands or importation from the far east and South America.

And it goes on and on and on.....

And these F's are doin' nothing but talkin' about birth control and abortion!!!

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ANYMORE!!!!!!


Oh...and in regards to the original post....the kids(girls) at school wouldn't have known this girl was on the pill IF SHE HADN'T TOLD EITHER THEM OR ANOTHER FRIEND WHO BLABBED IT ALL OVER THE DAMN SCHOOL!!!

Kids are cruel. Particularly girls and they are wicked cruel by the time they get to high school. They use whatever "weapon" they can to attack the one they don't like. In this girl's case, they knew about the BC pills, and regardless of why the girl takes them, the little bitches are going to use that information in the meanest, cruelest way possible.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Splashdown on March 05, 2012, 11:02:48 AM
Awesome post, Deb! Hi-5.

Dead on.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: debk on March 05, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
Awesome post, Deb! Hi-5.

Dead on.

Thanks, Splash.

This whole topic has bugged me for years, but ever since it came out that ObamaCare is going to force the Catholic Church to pay for insurance to provide BC and abortions, it has sent my blood pressure into the stratosphere.

While I have always thought health insurance should have an option to pay for BC pills, just as there is an option for pregnancy care, I don't think any entity should be FORCED to pay/provide something that goes against their religious beliefs.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 05, 2012, 11:16:06 AM
They say "slut" like its a bad thing.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 05, 2012, 11:20:32 AM
They say "slut" like its a bad thing.

It's 'cause they're haters.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: obumazombie on March 05, 2012, 11:30:12 AM
It's 'cause they're haters.
And haters gotta hate.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 05, 2012, 11:38:55 AM
H5 Deb!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 05, 2012, 11:42:57 AM
Where's Jeff Foxworthy?

If you lost your cherry to stevenumbers at age 12....you might be a slut.



Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 05, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
Where's Jeff Foxworthy?

If you lost your cherry to stevenumbers at age 12....you might be a slut.





 :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:

I can just see Foxworthy doing that in a skit.  H5!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 05, 2012, 12:28:22 PM
I have to agree, I was raised in a pretty darn Red State and even in the late 60s, nobody would have thought anything of it...nor did I with my own daughter 30 years later, even well-centered people make relational mistakes, and I'd much rather she was on the pill than struggling to support both herself and a living memento of some dumbshit loser whom she thought was cute, edgy, and interesting one night in her junior year of HS. 

I know many parents that put their girls on BC when they have the slightest idea that their little Angel might start with the heavy breathing in the back seat of some guys car.

Much better to be safe than sorry!

Sounds to me like she's prolly gettin' slipped the bologna by her boyfriend on a regular basis and bragged about it to her so-called friends. That is of course if there's a thred of truth to this BS!

Oh, and about the acne cure, Proactive I believe is the name of the current hot fix for ace in teenagers.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ballygrl on March 05, 2012, 12:56:25 PM
Seeing as being a "slut" is a "badge of honor" for a lot of high school girls...this one may have been trying to earn it.

Whether by action or dialog, we don't know.

Actually I think that was kind of the point that we came away with in our conversation with the 2 young Spanish girls we were talking to.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ballygrl on March 05, 2012, 12:59:42 PM
Awesome post Deb! :cheersmate:
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 05, 2012, 01:04:44 PM


If your first lesson in drivers ed was learning to sit up in a car...you might be a slut.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: sondrab on March 05, 2012, 01:18:38 PM
Actually I think that was kind of the point that we came away with in our conversation with the 2 young Spanish girls we were talking to.

My daughter keeps telling me this is what is the norm for 7th graders. *SMH* there were two kids caught in 6th grade that were masterbating each other under the desk in class. Boy was expelled from the school, girl said she didn't ask for it or want it, called the cops and pressed rape charges so she wouldn't get in trouble at school. I call bullshit, how can you be in a class full of kids and teacher and not draw attention to unwanted advances. My daughter would have stood up and yelled "get your Fin hands off me!"  I don't know how I will handle HS!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: seahorse513 on March 05, 2012, 01:26:06 PM
Hi5 Deb!!!! Excellent post!!!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Maxiest on March 05, 2012, 01:28:58 PM
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They lined up behind my daughter to get their lunch tray and started in on her. "Birth control whore", "I told my mom you were on the pill and she said you were nothing but a little tramp" "My mom said some guy she listens to on the radio was just talking about girls like you- he even said you were a slut!" "Yeah, my mom said the same thing, said it's about time people spoke up and weren't afraid to tell the truth"!

Because of this shit right here I know its bunch of made up BS.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 05, 2012, 01:30:04 PM
I went on the pill a couple of months after turning 18 (1971), after many years of being a horrendous bitch in incredible pain, vomiting and having to leave class/school after I passed out (which is incredibly embrarassing when it was occurring once a month  :censored: ).

At the time I went on it, my periods were very erratic. I could have one, then less than 3 weeks later, have another, or I could go 6 weeks without one. It could last 3 or 4 days or as long as 10 or 11. I started out on the lowest dosage, and ended up on the strongest within months. Even on the pill, I still had 7 day periods, but at least I knew when they were going to show up, and though still on pain meds for a couple of days, at least I wasn't throwing up and passing out.

I was on it for 7 years, got pregnant with my daughter 3 months later. (yes, I was married and had been for a year). Was on it again in between kids, and back on it after my second. at 29. I also had my first ovary removed at 31 after the scar tissue from so many burst cysts at made the ovary attach to my abdominal wall. It was during the surgery, that my GYN said I'd have to have it all out within a few years, because not only was my uterus very tilted( he couldn't figure out how I was able to get pregnant without medical help) but that it was "constructed" the way it was supposed to be.

Not ONE time, did my insurance ever pay for my BC pills. Not one penny of the $3.50 a month they cost me. On the other hand, insurance did pay for my pain pills which were considerably more expensive.

My cousin, her daughter, and my daughter have all had trouble with their "parts" and their malfunctions from the time they were in their early teens. Kinda makes one wonder if the problems aren't somewhat genetic.

I recognize this is all TMI, but this whole birth control issue makes me livid!!!

The government does not belong in a woman's reproductive system. It should be between a woman and her doctor. The only onther individuals that should be involved are either a husband or a parent. NO ONE ELSE.

The only others who should be involved would be God and a woman's priest/pastor if wanted/needed.

NO way should a bunch of hot-air politicians who think they know more than anybody else about everything else.

I am so sick and tired of abortion being brought into political races. There is more debate about abortion, and now birth control, than there is anything else!!

Hello????? I can't make a living as a realtor anymore because of the mortgage/housing mess. I don't qualify for unemployment because I'm self employed. Yes, it was MY choice to be self-employed, but I didn't expect my chosen career to go belly up for 3+ years either. There are 1000's of people in our country, that are/were self employed like me, who, if lucky have found other jobs in the meantime....most making a fraction of what they were 4+years ago!!

Hello????? We're in a f'n war and the f'n President of the United States is spending day after day APOLOGIZING to the f'n enemy because a few copies of their Holy Book was burned. Ones that were damaged by being written in, and were disposed of the PROPER way. Yet he apologizes while the f'n people we are supposed to be liberating are killing our soldiers in retaliation!!! I might add that HE is the one who put us back full force into Afghanistan!!
And that's only a tip of the mess that the Middle East is these days. And let's not forget that those bastards want us all dead.

Hello???? Our manufacturing companies are falling by the wayside, because they can't survive anymore. Whether it be from the union demands or importation from the far east and South America.

And it goes on and on and on.....

And these F's are doin' nothing but talkin' about birth control and abortion!!!

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ANYMORE!!!!!!


Oh...and in regards to the original post....the kids(girls) at school wouldn't have known this girl was on the pill IF SHE HADN'T TOLD EITHER THEM OR ANOTHER FRIEND WHO BLABBED IT ALL OVER THE DAMN SCHOOL!!!

Kids are cruel. Particularly girls and they are wicked cruel by the time they get to high school. They use whatever "weapon" they can to attack the one they don't like. In this girl's case, they knew about the BC pills, and regardless of why the girl takes them, the little bitches are going to use that information in the meanest, cruelest way possible.

Well said Deb! The Koran burning was actually after it was scrawled by terrorists and that is against Islam. Burning the Koran as a result was the right procedure. Yes, kids can be cruel, especially girls. I have seen that news recently.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: NHSparky on March 05, 2012, 01:30:39 PM
Where's Jeff Foxworthy?

If you lost your cherry to stevenumbers at age 12....you might be a slut.





Or a rape victim.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: NHSparky on March 05, 2012, 01:32:32 PM
Oh, and about the acne cure, Proactive I believe is the name of the current hot fix for ace in teenagers.

Proactiv--good stuff, if you don't mind watching your daughter's face turn beet red and swell to the size of a beachball, as has happened to the girl-child here.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: sondrab on March 05, 2012, 01:33:54 PM
Deb, H5! Well said!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 05, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
My daughter keeps telling me this is what is the norm for 7th graders. *SMH* there were two kids caught in 6th grade that were masterbating each other under the desk in class. Boy was expelled from the school, girl said she didn't ask for it or want it, called the cops and pressed rape charges so she wouldn't get in trouble at school. I call bullshit, how can you be in a class full of kids and teacher and not draw attention to unwanted advances. My daughter would have stood up and yelled "get your Fin hands off me!"  I don't know how I will handle HS!

My daughter, who is a senior, said this weekend that there are at least four girls in one of her classes that are obviously pregnant.  I asked if they were treated any differently and she said no, no one seems to care. On one hand I'm glad the girls aren't treated as outcasts, on the other hand it says a lot about our society that no one seems to think its a big deal.

I have stressed to my girls (and my son) that they only have ONE first time. You can't take it back, there are no "do-overs". They are worth more than some guy's (or girl, in the case of my son) good time.  I have always used the way my husband treats me as an example of how they should expect to be treated (or the way to treat someone in the case of my son) and NEVER accept anything less.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Wineslob on March 05, 2012, 01:37:54 PM
Bull.  Complete total fabrication.  This is not the way teenagers speak to each other.  This is adult trying to sound like what they think teenagers would say and failing.


+1

BTW my daughter is on the pill, low dose, to prevent acne. Doctors orders.

No one has called her a slut. If they did, I'd make them pound sand, with their face.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: debk on March 05, 2012, 02:23:16 PM

+1

BTW my daughter is on the pill, low dose, to prevent acne. Doctors orders.

No one has called her a slut. If they did, I'd make them pound sand, with their face.

She probably hasn't told all her little girlfriends, nor the not so friends.

Ever since Accutane was taken off of the market, dermatologists have tried to find something that works without the bad side effects.

My skin was great when I was on the pill. Went to hell in a hand basket after the first ovary was removed and I finally went on Accutane at 35 when nothing else would work. My daughter was on it at 14.

I took my daughter to the GYN before she started college, to go on the pill. For 2 reasons. One she had the wicked periods that were getting progressively worse. And I wanted to make sure if she "took stupid",  got drunk or someone slipped her a roofie, she at least wouldn't get pregnant. I also thought it would be better to be proactive and be on the pill than to have to make a decision what to do if she did get pregnant. She had just turned 18.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: sondrab on March 05, 2012, 02:40:09 PM
If its a skin issue I would advise checking out the natural benefits of coconut oil and tea tree. One of my favorite things about our Drs they don't automatically pull out the RX pad.
If its just a loose girl issue, I advise not opening your legs to everyone that says I love you.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: GOP Congress on March 05, 2012, 02:44:38 PM
I think many of us are missing the big picture.

If someone told me the following with a straight face,

I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"

...I would be APPALLED that she was not raising her daughter with any morals in the first place. There is NO WAY that my daughter, or the daughter of any man I know who is actively raising her, would even have to consider THINKING that. And if she is actually taking BC because of an actual, non-sexually related medical condition, she would be intelligent enough to know how to communicate that particular medication to others (if it's their business in the first place).

Bottom line: Her daughter is either a slut like Sandra Fluke, or she's ignorant just like her parents. The parent is mostly at fault here.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: cmypay on March 05, 2012, 03:21:18 PM
My daughter is now on BC to control diagnosed PMDD. We waited until after she turned 18, to see if it would "straighten out" on its own. I'm really concerned that these girls are on BC so very young, while their bodies are still trying to mature. There are consequences to long term hormone pills, sometimes including infertility (as happened to one of my friends whose parents put her on BC pills at 14).

I just asked my daughter if anything like this has happened at her school. She informed me she was one of the last of the girls she knows to go on the pill, but no one really cares. They know who the sluts are and it's not because they take the pill.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Flame on March 05, 2012, 03:42:04 PM
My daughter, who is a senior, said this weekend that there are at least four girls in one of her classes that are obviously pregnant.  I asked if they were treated any differently and she said no, no one seems to care. On one hand I'm glad the girls aren't treated as outcasts, on the other hand it says a lot about our society that no one seems to think its a big deal.

I have stressed to my girls (and my son) that they only have ONE first time. You can't take it back, there are no "do-overs". They are worth more than some guy's (or girl, in the case of my son) good time.  I have always used the way my husband treats me as an example of how they should expect to be treated (or the way to treat someone in the case of my son) and NEVER accept anything less.


Exactly.  And I tell my kids the only 100% sure fire way to not get (or get someone) pregnant is to not have sex.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: cmypay on March 05, 2012, 03:51:54 PM
Exactly.  And I tell my kids the only 100% sure fire way to not get (or get someone) pregnant is to not have sex.


Agree! We have made it clear our preference is that our children wait until they find "the one." Seems the sex-ed courses the schools teach forget that part.

My daughter's best friend since 8th grade had a baby over Christmas break. She very obviously pregnant all of fall semester and is now back to finish her senior year. This particular young lady is a 4.0 student, who had been accepted to Duke University, but now thinks she can't attend college because of the baby. Her parents have kicked her out and she and the baby are living with her boyfriend's family. Now the poor girl thinks I hate her because she got pregnant. (This is not at all the case. I'm just disappointed) As you said, it only takes once.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: debk on March 05, 2012, 03:56:04 PM
My daughter is now on BC to control diagnosed PMDD. We waited until after she turned 18, to see if it would "straighten out" on its own. I'm really concerned that these girls are on BC so very young, while their bodies are still trying to mature. There are consequences to long term hormone pills, sometimes including infertility (as happened to one of my friends whose parents put her on BC pills at 14).

I just asked my daughter if anything like this has happened at her school. She informed me she was one of the last of the girls she knows to go on the pill, but no one really cares. They know who the sluts are and it's not because they take the pill.

Your reasoning was the same as mine, for my daughter, on the body maturity thing and also on the long-term consequences of being on the pill. Having gone through the "wait and see if it gets better" ordeal myself, I was pretty sure, that wasn't going to happen with her.

I didn't go off of it by choice, but because other issues were starting to happen, which forced me to go off of it. Also, my GYN was concerned that if I stayed on it much longer, I might not be able to get pregnant at all.

I didn't want that to happen to my daughter. It's also much easier to miss a class or two in HS than it is in college.


I really don't think whether a girl is on the pill or not, is going to make that much difference as to whether or not she has sex in middle school or high school.

What's going to make the difference in how long she waits....is how much her parents have tried to guide her into becoming a responsible adult learning to make the right choices, and how much they have taught her to respect herself and her body.   
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: delilahmused on March 05, 2012, 04:13:29 PM
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I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"

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I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
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................. We sat down on the couch and she just cried for what seemed like forever. I held her and cried with her and said more things that I just can't remember now!

Way to show her strength there. But at least you didn't have some verbatim conversation with her.

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Finally I got her calmed down enough to tell me the story from the beginning. The note was in her locker when she opened it before her first class. She was so upset that she went to her teacher in first period and asked to be excused to go to the bathroom. She said for first and second period she tried not to be too upset- she cried a little bit but was just trying to figure out who would leave such a piece of trash in her locker. By third period, she had shown the note to a couple of her friends and they were so helpful, trying to play detective and at the same time telling her she should just ignore the stupid people! She managed to get through a math quiz and Spanish test and headed off to lunch in a pretty solid frame of mind.

Honestly, this just wouldn't happen unless there are extenuating circumstances we don't know about. Nobody cares. There are enough girls using birth control that it's really no big deal (it wasn't when I was in high school and that was in the late 70's.

Either this girl has been bragging about being on the pill to anyone who will listen or she really does get around. Maybe she's one of those arrogant liberals like her mother who thinks she knows everything and tells everyone else what to think. Maybe she brags about how smart she is or does something else that puts people off. Granted, bullies can be mean and there are some people who, it seems, are bullied all the way through school and that may be the case here. They'd find something to harass her about anyway.

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And that's when it really fell apart; apparently, the girls from the day before were the authors of the note. They lined up behind my daughter to get their lunch tray and started in on her. "Birth control whore", "I told my mom you were on the pill and she said you were nothing but a little tramp" "My mom said some guy she listens to on the radio was just talking about girls like you- he even said you were a slut!" "Yeah, my mom said the same thing, said it's about time people spoke up and weren't afraid to tell the truth"! They laughed, they harassed, they said so many things my daughter couldn't begin to remember it all- she walked back to her table without food and told her friends what was going on. She cried through lunch and through the rest of the day. She said she almost went to the office to call me to come get her but she was trying to be strong and not let them win!

This simply doesn't ring true. Mom wouldn't say "some guy she listens to" nor would the daughter. My sons knew who I listened to simply because I'd bring up something he said every now and then. Discussions with my teenagers about current events & sharing opinions is one of the most rewarding things about parenting teens. It also gives you a chance to keep discussing values.

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The last class of the day, however, was the final straw- it's her history class and 2 of these little monsters are in the class with her. They start the class off by talking about current events. One of the little witches brought up Rush Limbaugh and the (male) teacher said that he was an American Icon- sometimes he says things that can be construed as insensitive but overall, he was one of the few people left in today's media who was not afraid to speak the truth! The girls began to laugh and the conversation apparently changed. I don't think the teacher had any clue as to what was going on. My daughter said the rest of the class was just a blur- when the bell rang, she ran to her locker and down to the bathroom.

If this is true he's one of the handful of conservative teachers in the country but I highly doubt he'd let this kind of harassment go on in his classroom. Besides, the teacher is exactly right about Rush. However, if this really happened why didn't your daughter tell them to shut the hell up and MYOB?

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I asked my daughter how these girls found out about her being on birth control. It had to have come from someone on the trip, but we have no idea who. It doesn't matter, really, I just would like to know. My daughter looked at me so innocent, so very sad and asked me "Am I a slut because I take a prescription birth control pill? I don't take it because I am having sex, I take it to help my periods- am I a bad person, Mom?"

AM I A BAD PERSON? My 16 year old daughter asked me if she was a bad person because she is on the pill! Who are we? What century do we live in? Who in the hell has the right to say these things? Who does Rush Limbaugh think he is? Why is he allowed to say these things and hurt people? Why have I spent the last 2 days trying to convince my 16 year old that she is not a slut?


Well somewhere along the line, IF this is even true, your daughter had to tell someone who somehow managed to let the only 3 or 4 girls in the entire school who would care about her taking birth control pills and are also mean. Also, how is it possible for a 16 year old to be this naive? Seriously, she's 16! I'd expect this kind of thing from a 12 year old but by 16 she should have the maturity to know taking birth control pills for her complexion doesn't make her a "bad person" even if some bullies said she is.

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On Monday, I am going to my child's high school and meeting with her counselor and principal. I don't yet know what I am going to say but I know this- nothing is going to take away the pain my daughter felt, the humiliation she felt, the indignation she felt. Nothing will make this all O.K., nothing will take us back to before this all happened. As a parent, you want to protect your child from hurt and pain. I didn't protect my child from this- I can only try to make sure that she suffers no more at the hands of these little witches. Or ignorant assholes like Rush Limbaugh.

the rest:
http://www.dailykos.com/s...s-not-a-slut-?via=siderec

Of course, it could simply be that the girl made out with a hot dog or she has a fat ass:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Z16H6c2NY&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 05, 2012, 04:17:10 PM
This thread proves the Dailykos commies are no better at dreaming up and constructing bouncy tales than the DUmpmonkeys.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Wineslob on March 05, 2012, 04:29:57 PM
She probably hasn't told all her little girlfriends, nor the not so friends.

Ever since Accutane was taken off of the market, dermatologists have tried to find something that works without the bad side effects.

My skin was great when I was on the pill. Went to hell in a hand basket after the first ovary was removed and I finally went on Accutane at 35 when nothing else would work. My daughter was on it at 14.

I took my daughter to the GYN before she started college, to go on the pill. For 2 reasons. One she had the wicked periods that were getting progressively worse. And I wanted to make sure if she "took stupid",  got drunk or someone slipped her a roofie, she at least wouldn't get pregnant. I also thought it would be better to be proactive and be on the pill than to have to make a decision what to do if she did get pregnant. She had just turned 18.


My wife had the same issue until she had all the...........lady parts removed. A 2 week period was the norm. Poor woman was miserable. Now.........IT"S WHOOPIE TIME.     :-)

My daughter is having the same issues...at 14.      :panic:
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: zeitgeist on March 05, 2012, 04:43:47 PM
Bad acne and heavy irregular periods.  Both good rationalizations.  They have been used for ever.  My ex's doctor used one when he put her on the pill at 16 after a regular lower unit check up reveled she was either heavily engaged in horseback riding or sexually active (to keep her mother from having a bird when she found out).  

And now for my favorite story from the sixties.  A very Catholic family with several teen age girls mom shows up heavy with child. The dirty little secret, she was on the pill and her oldest daughter had been taking her pills on the sly. Of course this was in a small coastal town where this type thing was the worst kept secret and who to chastize?  The daughter or the mom??  Nobody got away unscathed in that one.  

Ladies, in the old days didn't you have to take the pills in the correct order?
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 05, 2012, 05:16:56 PM



Liberal liar:
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AM I A BAD PERSON? My 16 year old daughter asked me if she was a bad person because she is on the pill! Who are we? What century do we live in? Who in the hell has the right to say these things? Who does Rush Limbaugh think he is? Why is he allowed to say these things and hurt people? Why have I spent the last 2 days trying to convince my 16 year old that she is not a slut?


Oh, I don't know...why dont you ask Sarah Palin's kids how they feel first?
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 05, 2012, 06:50:49 PM

If your first lesson in drivers ed was learning to sit up in a car...you might be a slut.

If ya can't hold an aspirin between yer knees, ya might be a slut!

Exactly.  And I tell my kids the only 100% sure fire way to not get (or get someone) pregnant is to not have sex.

Oh, shit! Ya suggest abstinence! You'd be infringing on their sexuality!

According to these liberal slugs, whenever you decide to spread yer legs, that's when you should let little Johny have his way with you! After all, if you' as a parent gets involved your crimpin' their style! To discourage that is a crime against humanity!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 05, 2012, 08:32:25 PM
If its a skin issue I would advise checking out the natural benefits of coconut oil and tea tree. One of my favorite things about our Drs they don't automatically pull out the RX pad.
If its just a loose girl issue, I advise not opening your legs to everyone that says I love you.


Thank you for the suggestion!!  I have very mild acne and redness.  My dermatologist gave me two different creams to use after washing my face.  The creams work, but I need something better to wash my face with other then the store bought stuff that does not work!!  Proactiv doesn't even work.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: sondrab on March 05, 2012, 08:36:48 PM
Thank you for the suggestion!!  I have very mild acne and redness.  My dermatologist gave me two different creams to use after washing my face.  The creams work, but I need something better to wash my face with other then the store bought stuff that does not work!!  Proactiv doesn't even work.

I can't use proactive or anything like it, I look like a strawberry for weeks after one application if I do. Take a look into natural healing, you'd be shocked at what vitamin D alone will do for you healthwise. Let me know if ya want a few links of my favs.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 05, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
2 days?! What kind of evidence did you present?
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: debk on March 06, 2012, 04:26:49 AM

My wife had the same issue until she had all the...........lady parts removed. A 2 week period was the norm. Poor woman was miserable. Now.........IT"S WHOOPIE TIME.     :-)

My daughter is having the same issues...at 14.      :panic:

I finally opted to have my uterus out when I was 40. Shocked the heck out of the nurse when I got up the  morning after surgery, showered and washed my hair, after they took the morphine self injector out of my arm because I wasn't using it. The morphine injector was switched out for 800 motrin "on request".

They didn't understand how I was doing so well. I was doing so well, because I was finally pain free after a 7 MONTH period!!  It was the best thing I ever did !!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 06, 2012, 05:07:03 AM
Took momma two days to tell her daughter, "You are not a slut...you are an unpaid sex worker."
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: shadeaux on March 06, 2012, 05:54:48 AM
That story is about as true as this one

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/26/1068434/-Banker-Leaves-1-Tip-on-133-Bill-to-Show-His-Disdain-for-the-99-

That turned out to be a LIE also.

I tell you, the DUmmies just like drama.  Any little thing gets them all pissy.

Speaking of acne, my son was on accutane in high school.  That was a miracle drug for him.  I had to fill out questionaires every month. The drug company wanted to make sure he wasn't female and was on or using no less than 3 methods of birth control. The doctor confirmed he was male.   :-)

I'm showing my age here but I assumed girls today were more sophisticated than we were back in the day. You'd think being on birth control pills would make you cool and Mom super cool. What do I know.

Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BadCat on March 06, 2012, 06:41:22 AM
I remember way back when I was 16.  I had a 15 year old girl friend, and we were very sexually active.  She just went down to the liberals favourite place...Planned Parenthood. 

They gave her the Pill...no charge.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 06, 2012, 06:50:33 AM
I remember way back when I was 16.  I had a 15 year old girl friend, and we were very sexually active.  She just went down to the liberals favourite place...Planned Parenthood. 

They gave her the Pill...no charge.

Yeah, but this Ms Fluke is a 30 year old slut....so evidently even the planned parenthood liberals think she old enough to accept responsibility for herself. 

BTW Is a bitter, man hating, liberal moonbat of a woman really in any danger of becoming pregnant?
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 06, 2012, 06:55:47 AM
BTW Is a bitter, man hating, liberal moonbat of a woman really in any danger of becoming pregnant?

I know that one shouldn't answer a question with another question, but the answer is . . . Would Stevenumbers hit it? :???: :fuelfire:
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 06, 2012, 07:02:58 AM
I know that one shouldn't answer a question with another question, but the answer is . . . Would Stevenumbers hit it? :???: :fuelfire:

Probably a hit and run most likely.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 06, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
Took momma two days to tell her daughter, "You are not a slut...you are an unpaid sex worker."

Ahem..."Volunteer."  Looks better on the resume that way, you know...
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: AllosaursRus on March 06, 2012, 12:51:49 PM
I know that one shouldn't answer a question with another question, but the answer is . . . Would Stevenumbers hit it? :???: :fuelfire:

'Ol SteveNumbNutz would hit this!

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7883/fatbellydancer.gif)

So, my vote would be yea!
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Gina on March 06, 2012, 12:57:27 PM
My daughter is now on BC to control diagnosed PMDD. We waited until after she turned 18, to see if it would "straighten out" on its own. I'm really concerned that these girls are on BC so very young, while their bodies are still trying to mature. There are consequences to long term hormone pills, sometimes including infertility (as happened to one of my friends whose parents put her on BC pills at 14).

I just asked my daughter if anything like this has happened at her school. She informed me she was one of the last of the girls she knows to go on the pill, but no one really cares. They know who the sluts are and it's not because they take the pill.

I am someone that has infertility issues (my body can easily get pregnant yet I can't hold onto the pregnancy).  You wouldn't believe how many women on my fertility sites have been screwed over by the pill.  Their bodies and fertility get so screwed up by the pill that when they do come off of it after deciding to conceive it takes years for their body to right itself if it even ever does. 

I got the paragard copper iud after this last baby but I am going to get it taken out.  If I get pregnant, I get pregnant and it's God's will.  I don't like anything foreign inside me (shutup).
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: GOP Congress on March 06, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
OK, gang. I figured it out. DUH!!

Statement One:

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On Monday, I am going to my child's high school and meeting with her counselor and principal. I don't yet know what I am going to say but I know this- nothing is going to take away the pain my daughter felt, the humiliation she felt, the indignation she felt. Nothing will make this all O.K., nothing will take us back to before this all happened. As a parent, you want to protect your child from hurt and pain. I didn't protect my child from this- I can only try to make sure that she suffers no more at the hands of these little witches. Or ignorant assholes like Rush Limbaugh.

Statement Two:

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On Monday, I am going to my child's high school and meeting with her counselor and principal. I don't yet know what I am going to say but I know this- nothing is going to take away the pain my daughter felt, the humiliation she felt, the indignation she felt. Nothing will make this all O.K., nothing will take us back to before this all happened. As a parent, you want to protect your child from hurt and pain. I didn't protect my child from this- I can only try to make sure that she suffers no more at the hands of these little witches. Or ignorant assholes like Rush Limbaugh.

Here is what I get:

I don't think that the REAL target of her wrath are the girls, or even Rush. The REAL target is the TEACHER who has the NERVE to support Rush Limbaugh! I think that she's going to try to get this teacher sacked, or at least put on notice, that since he supports Rush, that she's going to organize something.

In short, she's going to pull a Sandra Fluke herself.

There. Answer solved.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BEG on March 06, 2012, 01:55:04 PM
OK, gang. I figured it out. DUH!!

Statement One:

Statement Two:

Here is what I get:

I don't think that the REAL target of her wrath are the girls, or even Rush. The REAL target is the TEACHER who has the NERVE to support Rush Limbaugh! I think that she's going to try to get this teacher sacked, or at least put on notice, that since he supports Rush, that she's going to organize something.

In short, she's going to pull a Sandra Fluke herself.

There. Answer solved.

I honestly think there is no Rush loving teacher. I half wonder if there is even a 16 year old daughter.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 06, 2012, 01:59:06 PM
I got the paragard copper iud after this last baby but I am going to get it taken out.  If I get pregnant, I get pregnant and it's God's will.  I don't like anything foreign inside me (shutup).

Sounds like our Australian and Canadian friends are out of luck, then.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 06, 2012, 02:05:34 PM
Sounds like our Australian and Canadian friends are out of luck, then.

Sucks to be them! :yahoo: :tongue: :fuelfire:
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 06, 2012, 03:10:10 PM
OK, gang. I figured it out. DUH!!

Statement One:

Statement Two:

Here is what I get:

I don't think that the REAL target of her wrath are the girls, or even Rush. The REAL target is the TEACHER who has the NERVE to support Rush Limbaugh! I think that she's going to try to get this teacher sacked, or at least put on notice, that since he supports Rush, that she's going to organize something.

In short, she's going to pull a Sandra Fluke herself.

There. Answer solved.
Someone has forgotten that DUmmies lie, all the time, about every single thing.

There's no daughter, no teacher, and no school.

Chances are strong, though, that there is a slut.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Wineslob on March 06, 2012, 04:21:58 PM
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljamczcitN1qbnu3jo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: obumazombie on March 06, 2012, 05:08:05 PM
I have a trick for remembering that's beavis.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 06, 2012, 09:51:48 PM
That story is about as true as this one

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/26/1068434/-Banker-Leaves-1-Tip-on-133-Bill-to-Show-His-Disdain-for-the-99-

That turned out to be a LIE also.

I tell you, the DUmmies just like drama.  Any little thing gets them all pissy.

Speaking of acne, my son was on accutane in high school.  That was a miracle drug for him.  I had to fill out questionaires every month. The drug company wanted to make sure he wasn't female and was on or using no less than 3 methods of birth control. The doctor confirmed he was male.   :-)

I'm showing my age here but I assumed girls today were more sophisticated than we were back in the day. You'd think being on birth control pills would make you cool and Mom super cool. What do I know.



You're not showing your age.  I am 28 years old and when I was in high school, nobody bragged about being on BC.  I cannot recall a single person from high school that bragged about it.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 06, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
I am someone that has infertility issues (my body can easily get pregnant yet I can't hold onto the pregnancy).  You wouldn't believe how many women on my fertility sites have been screwed over by the pill.  Their bodies and fertility get so screwed up by the pill that when they do come off of it after deciding to conceive it takes years for their body to right itself if it even ever does. 

I got the paragard copper iud after this last baby but I am going to get it taken out.  If I get pregnant, I get pregnant and it's God's will. I don't like anything foreign inside me (shutup).

Sorry... had to do it.  :)

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmjsrwoVN01qhc4feo1_500.png)
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 06, 2012, 10:21:15 PM
I am someone that has infertility issues (my body can easily get pregnant yet I can't hold onto the pregnancy).  You wouldn't believe how many women on my fertility sites have been screwed over by the pill.  Their bodies and fertility get so screwed up by the pill that when they do come off of it after deciding to conceive it takes years for their body to right itself if it even ever does. 

I got the paragard copper iud after this last baby but I am going to get it taken out.  If I get pregnant, I get pregnant and it's God's will.  I don't like anything foreign inside me (shutup).
I was just thinking: on the one hand, liberals are demanding everything be "natural" especially when it comes to the food they put in their bodies. At the same time, they want free, unnatural drugs to stop their bodies from taking their natural course after coitus.

Go figure.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: obumazombie on March 07, 2012, 12:01:14 AM
I was just thinking: on the one hand, liberals are demanding everything be "natural" especially when it comes to the food they put in their bodies. At the same time, they want free, unnatural drugs to stop their bodies from taking their natural course after coitus.

Go figure.
Libs are a collection of integrated paradoxes.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 07, 2012, 12:08:15 AM
You're not showing your age.  I am 28 years old and when I was in high school, nobody bragged about being on BC.  I cannot recall a single person from high school that bragged about it.
I can't imagine that girls would ever want to risk being thought of as a slut, except in the inner city, where bearing a taxpayer-supported bastard is a badge of honor.

Even sluts like Kim Kardashian, and Paris Hilton, and the Kenyan's Fluke ho want people  to think of them as something else.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: zeitgeist on March 07, 2012, 01:01:41 PM
Libs are a collection of integrated paradoxes.

Within an enigma perhaps?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ARiddleWrappedInAMysteryInsideAnEnigma

 :rotf:
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: obumazombie on March 07, 2012, 05:20:07 PM
Within an enigma perhaps?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ARiddleWrappedInAMysteryInsideAnEnigma

 :rotf:
I like where you went with this. As I reviewed your link I found a possibly more appropriate description of libs. Misery wrapped in an enema.
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: zeitgeist on March 07, 2012, 06:52:33 PM
I like where you went with this. As I reviewed your link I found a possibly more appropriate description of libs. Misery wrapped in an enema.

Gracias.  I confess I was looking for a single quote but had to include the whole link.  :-)
Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: jtyangel on March 11, 2012, 10:15:06 AM
If ya can't hold an aspirin between yer knees, ya might be a slut!

Oh, shit! Ya suggest abstinence! You'd be infringing on their sexuality!

According to these liberal slugs, whenever you decide to spread yer legs, that's when you should let little Johny have his way with you! After all, if you' as a parent gets involved your crimpin' their style! To discourage that is a crime against humanity!

To be fair, young men aren't encouraged to be exactly honorable anymore either. We aren't raising either gender to be honorable and the result is encouraging young men and women both to act on their most primal NATURAL instincts. Teenagers aren't really doing anything out of the ordinary for their natural human processes, just society has coarsened to the point that it is acceptable for both men and women to have no self-restraint or self-respect AND that's been paired with having no responsibility for the outcome of the sexual act.

Title: Re: I've spent the past 2 days trying to convince my 16 y/o she is not a "slut"
Post by: obumazombie on March 11, 2012, 11:27:38 AM
It has long been a high priority on the lib agenda to separate the consequences of sex, from the act of sex. Sex without consequences. They have made quite a bit of progress as progressives in this endeavor, but because libs don't understand human nature let alone the divine, they will never be able to completely separate them.