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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on February 20, 2012, 07:02:06 PM
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Stinky The Clown
It was seventy years ago today that America sent Japanese Americans to our own concentration camps.
On this day in 1942, FDR signed the order that sent them there.
A VERY dark day in our history, indeed.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002330374
Damn them fascist repukes.
Oh wait.
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Correction: It was seventy years ago today that a life-long member of the Democratic Party sent Japanese Americans to our own concentration camps.
They seem to have a bad habit of doing things like that.
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It was seventy years ago today that a Progressive President sent Americans to our own Progressive concentration camps. And dammit, now we can't get away with it any more so we have to rely on Planned Parenthood to carry on the work of the Progressive Death Camps.
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Why is the old dude--as are most of the primitives, period--so exercised about past wrongs, instead of trying to ameliorate wrongs currently happening?
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:46 PM
Kalidurga
4. I am doing a report on this...
well the broader issue of how "alien enemies" were treated during WWII. Executive Order 9066, was among the worst things a president has ever done. I can't get my head around how anyone could sign that. It was all bad. The Japanese being arrested. The German sailors, Italian waiters, housewives, children. Then the grab of Japanese and other "alien enemies" from South America. And then the cover up. To this day we know very little of what happened.
Executive Order 9066 was rescinded by Republican president Gerald Ford on February 19, 1976. Choke on that lurkers.
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Death camps? ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Shouldn't that read:
It was seventy years ago today that a Democrat President America sent Japanese Americans to our own concentration camps.
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Sounds like the Beatle song Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
It was 70 years ago today..
FDR put the Japs away..
OK, I wrote the first two lines. Someone else can finish the song.
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Wait, what.....a Democrat signed an Executive Order to inter innocent American citizens?
It's a good thing the current socialist in charge isn't a student of history.
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Executive Order 9066 was rescinded by Republican president Gerald Ford on February 19, 1976. Choke on that lurkers.
+1 :cheersmate:
And this~
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,69661.0.html
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+1 :cheersmate:
And this~
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,69661.0.html
One of the two reasons the old dude posted his concern about this is to deflect from his own racism.
"Hey, look, I'm not racist--I'm against this dirty deed that was done by others before I was even born."
He's hoping one forgets that he lives in the third most-affluent county in the United States, in a place that's lily-white, far removed from the diversity of Baltimore.
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It was seventy years ago today that a Progressive President sent Americans to our own Progressive concentration camps. And dammit, now we can't get away with it any more so we have to rely on Planned Parenthood to carry on the work of the Progressive Death Camps.
It was a socialist plot.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002330374
Damn them fascist repukes.
Oh wait.
Hey Vinny The DUde, you voted for him!
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Sounds like the Beatle song Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
It was 70 years ago today..
FDR put the Japs away..
OK, I wrote the first two lines. Someone else can finish the song.
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It was 70 years ago today
FDR Put the Japs away
And though they claim to be the ones oppressed
Only Dems have made the mass arrests
So may I introduce to you
The liberal's wettest dream
Democratic Concentration Camps
They're Democratic Concentration Camps
We hope you will enjoy your stay
Democratic Concentration Camps
Shut up and vote just how we say
Democratic Concen-
Democratic Concen-
Democratic Concentration Camps
We'd like to stick you in here
Conservatives must go
A way to shut you up for good
We'd like to put you all away
We'd love to see you gone
You know we really want to run the show
But we just don't have the votes to go
You conservatives are really pests
And you vote against your interests
So let me introduce to you
The sum of all the country's fears
Democratic Concentration Camps
To help you get the tune right:
[youtube=425,350]xoJGDC10lZw[/youtube]
:-)
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dandi H5 good stuff.
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And all this time I thought that it was the Japanese who attacked the US. Oh well, I was only 3yo.........
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FDR loved him some fascist totalitarianism, he just thought Hitler did it too fast.
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I was pretty unhappy with this thread.
Godwins rule was broken but I'm sure that there was no understanding of that.
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It was 70 years ago today
FDR Put the Japs away
And though they claim to be the ones oppressed
Only Dems have made the mass arrests
So may I introduce to you
The liberal's wettest dream
Democratic Concentration Camps
They're Democratic Concentration Camps
We hope you will enjoy your stay
Democratic Concentration Camps
Shut up and vote just how we say
Democratic Concen-
Democratic Concen-
Democratic Concentration Camps
We'd like to stick you in here
Conservatives must go
A way to shut you up for good
We'd like to put you all away
We'd love to see you gone
You know we really want to run the show
But we just don't have the votes to go
You conservatives are really pests
And you vote against your interests
So let me introduce to you
The sum of all the country's fears
Democratic Concentration Camps
To help you get the tune right:
[youtube=425,350]xoJGDC10lZw[/youtube]
:-)
I thought that I had a gift for lyrics. Dandi, sir, :bow:
H5 given--and another when I get to work.
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It was 70 years ago today
FDR Put the Japs away
And though they claim to be the ones oppressed
Only Dems have made the mass arrests
So may I introduce to you
The liberal's wettest dream
Democratic Concentration Camps
They're Democratic Concentration Camps
We hope you will enjoy your stay
Democratic Concentration Camps
Shut up and vote just how we say
Democratic Concen-
Democratic Concen-
Democratic Concentration Camps
We'd like to stick you in here
Conservatives must go
A way to shut you up for good
We'd like to put you all away
We'd love to see you gone
You know we really want to run the show
But we just don't have the votes to go
You conservatives are really pests
And you vote against your interests
So let me introduce to you
The sum of all the country's fears
Democratic Concentration Camps
To help you get the tune right:
[youtube=425,350]xoJGDC10lZw[/youtube]
:-)
Excellent!!!!! BRAVO! BRAVO! :clap:
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Shouldn't that read:
It was seventy years ago today that a Democrat President America sent Japanese Americans to our own concentration camps.
One big difference between ours and Germany's camps.
Ours didn't have "showers".
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One big difference between ours and Germany's camps.
Ours didn't have "showers".
Precisely.
And there may well have been cause for concern.
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Death camps? ::) ::) ::) ::)
Yeah, they're getting a little lost in hyperbole over there. "Concentration camp" just meant a gathering place to confine a large number of people until the truth about the Holocaust death camps emerged after WW2, there were plenty of 'concentration camps' that were collecting points for displaced people/refugees and enemy aliens run by friends and foes from WW1 to the end of WW2. The death camps were a thing apart, they used the same name to hide their purpose (Although Dachau was originally an actual concentration camp to segregate political enemies, and became a death camp later once the 'Final Solution' started).
There was nothing at all unusual or illegal in rounding up and confining enemy citizens in your own country during war, it was an entirely normal practice in European countries (In the case of WW2, meaning the Axis citizens located within the US were completely fair legal territory for assembly and confinement for the duration). Where FDR's order went overboard was the racial/ethnic component regardless of actual citizenship, and the expropriation of the property of completely law-abiding US citizens of Japanese ancestry.
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Not to defend those horrible actions, but I need to clarify a few things for the DUmbasses:
1) Families were not torn apart.
2) Jewelry, including gold teeth, weren't ripped from the people in the camps and used for the war effort.
3) They were fed, had gardens, and, aside from being interred, had communities.
4) There were no mass murders.
5) Family members were actually allowed to serve in the military, insinuating that many, while disagreeing with it, did understand to some extent the reason behind it.
6) When they were released, they didn't look like skeletons.
This:
(http://historyz.com/ebay/3429w.jpg)
Is not the same as this:
(http://la8period7.pbworks.com/f/1274111475/concentration%20camps2.jpg)
Oh, and last I checked, the Jews weren't allowed gardens.
While each person's experience was as varied as each person, there were some constants such as the cafeteria style mess halls, latrines for bathrooms, and barracks for houses. The concentration camps were, as you know, small communities with schools, medical clinics, farms and social activities. Within the barbed wire fences, those interned were able personalized their "homes" and organize various activities to be as comfortable as possible.
http://japaneseinterncamps.weebly.com/in-camp.html
Yes, they were bad and should never be repeated, but to compare them to hellholes such as Auschwitz is utter idiocy.
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(http://la8period7.pbworks.com/f/1274111475/concentration%20camps2.jpg)
Oh my, I see the Jews so loved the German concentration camps that they laid down and refused to be liberated.{DU/mode]
That ain't even funny.....but it is probably close to DUmmie-think.
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It was 70 years ago today
FDR Put the Japs away
And though they claim to be the ones oppressed
Only Dems have made the mass arrests
So may I introduce to you
The liberal's wettest dream
Democratic Concentration Camps
They're Democratic Concentration Camps
We hope you will enjoy your stay
Democratic Concentration Camps
Shut up and vote just how we say
Democratic Concen-
Democratic Concen-
Democratic Concentration Camps
We'd like to stick you in here
Conservatives must go
A way to shut you up for good
We'd like to put you all away
We'd love to see you gone
You know we really want to run the show
But we just don't have the votes to go
You conservatives are really pests
And you vote against your interests
So let me introduce to you
The sum of all the country's fears
Democratic Concentration Camps
To help you get the tune right:
[youtube=425,350]xoJGDC10lZw[/youtube]
:-)
Hey, you did a great job completing it. Very Good!!
So, you wanna be Lennon or McCartney?
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Yeah, they're getting a little lost in hyperbole over there. "Concentration camp" just meant a gathering place to confine a large number of people until the truth about the Holocaust death camps emerged after WW2, there were plenty of 'concentration camps' that were collecting points for displaced people/refugees and enemy aliens run by friends and foes from WW1 to the end of WW2. The death camps were a thing apart, they used the same name to hide their purpose (Although Dachau was originally an actual concentration camp to segregate political enemies, and became a death camp later once the 'Final Solution' started).
There was nothing at all unusual or illegal in rounding up and confining enemy citizens in your own country during war, it was an entirely normal practice in European countries (In the case of WW2, meaning the Axis citizens located within the US were completely fair legal territory for assembly and confinement for the duration). Where FDR's order went overboard was the racial/ethnic component regardless of actual citizenship, and the expropriation of the property of completely law-abiding US citizens of Japanese ancestry.
I also wonder why it is always the people of Japanese lineage that are mentioned. There were only five hundred more Japanese interred that Germans. A good portion of that number is due to Japanese-American dual citizens who eith renounced US citizenship or would not renounce Japanese citizenship. There is nothing immoral about imprisoning citizens of a foreign nation that you are at war with provided they are treated well.
I disagree with the expropriation of property of people that were obeying the law. FDR didn't, and apparently nobody could tell him no.
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Yeah, whenever I see an old Japanese person with a serial number on their forearm, I shudd- oops. Wait. That didn't happen, either.
Oh well.
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I disagree with the expropriation of property of people that were obeying the law. FDR didn't, and apparently nobody could tell him no.
FDR said he was an even better socialist that Stalin...redistribute the wealth and all, you know. ...probably amongst his supporters.
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I also wonder why it is always the people of Japanese lineage that are mentioned. There were only five hundred more Japanese interred that Germans. A good portion of that number is due to Japanese-American dual citizens who eith renounced US citizenship or would not renounce Japanese citizenship. There is nothing immoral about imprisoning citizens of a foreign nation that you are at war with provided they are treated well.
I disagree with the expropriation of property of people that were obeying the law. FDR didn't, and apparently nobody could tell him no.
For reasons that can't really be attributed to anything but racism, Orientals were not regarded as 'Real' US citizens even if they were born in the US, an artifact of the importation of Chinese coolies for railroad-building and mining in the latter half of the 19th Century. For quite awhile that was actually the law, although a child of Italian, Serbian, or whatever immigrants born here was a citizen from birth. I'd have to look it up, but I believe that law had changed before WW2, though the thinking persisted.
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What they did was wrong but it doesn't compare to the three years my father spent in a German POW camp untill his camp was liberated by American forces in 1945.
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These pukes don't have a clue, do they? One of these so called camps is located outside of Spokane WA. The place is a paradise nestled down between gently rolling hills with a creek running thru the bottom! It's used now for a kids summer camp! Doubt Auschwitz could be used for any kind of camp!
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What they did was wrong but it doesn't compare to the three years my father spent in a German POW camp untill his camp was liberated by American forces in 1945.
That was the other thing the old dude was trying to do.
First, the old dude wanted to show he's not a racist by decrying a racist act that took place before he was even born, where both the perpetrators and nearly all the victims have long been dead.
Second, the old dude was applying relativism--"we're just as bad as they are"--when in fact there are degrees of "badness." The worst of the camps here in America into which a few tens of thousands of Japanese were sent were nothing compared with the best of the camps in Europe and Asia into which millions, tens of millions, of others were sent.
It's really puerile, this constant primitive assertion that stepping on someone's toe is "just as bad as" killing someone.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:10 PM
Stinky The Clown (45,085 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
It was seventy years ago today that America sent Japanese Americans to our own concentration camps.
On this day in 1942, FDR signed the order that sent them there.
A VERY dark day in our history, indeed.40
Who?
Tell us stinkDUde..WHO???
Was there a "D", invoved?
Tell us stinkDUde.
I thought FDR was your big hero, stinkDUde.
stinkDUde just dissed the major regressive icon of the socialist left.
stinkDUde is a loser. :loser:
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Like I said, he needs to go back to playin' with the cat in his basement head! He's just makin' a fool of himself with tripe like this! He wants everyone to compare our internment camps durin' WWII to Hitlers death camps. What a putz!
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Like I said, he needs to go back to playin' with the cat in his basement head! He's just makin' a fool of himself with tripe like this! He wants everyone to compare our internment camps durin' WWII to Hitlers death camps. What a putz!
As I posted on another thread, there was a MAJOR difference between our camps and Hitler's.
Ours didn't have "showers".
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As I posted on another thread, there was a MAJOR difference between our camps and Hitler's.
Ours didn't have "showers".
And, we actually fed them better than many of our citizens could afford! far cry from a concentration camp! Any of you DU pukes ever see what our POW's looked like after bein' the guests of the Japanese durin' WWII?
You fail to realize that it was as much for their own safety to intern certain nationalities as it was for the fear of espionage!