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The Bar => Introductions & Subsequent Welcomes => Topic started by: Destroyer25 on February 19, 2012, 01:24:09 PM
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Hi all! I'm Dest and I'm a Canadian! America's neighbor to the north. :) I'm 20, and I live in Toronto, Ontario. I define myself politically a Progressive Conservative leaning statesman and a Social Market Capitalist. I despise Obama for trying to turn America into a European style Social Democracy, I love Peter MacKay (Canada's Minister of Defense) because he's just a bad ass. :-) I'm incredibly disappointed with all the 2012 GOP candidates as everyone else is, and I'm hoping that Gov. Daniels or Gov. Christie will run in 2016.
I love debating history, mostly WWII (Rommel is my favorite general), politics, economics, current events, etc. I'm sure I'll fit in pretty well here! :)
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Welcome :cheersmate:
I have read several books on Rommel, one hard charging SOB.
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Welcome :cheersmate:
I have read several books on Rommel, one hard charging SOB.
Indeed he was.
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From one new guy to another, welcome! Though I hope you're wrong about Christie and Daniels.
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From one new guy to another, welcome! Though I hope you're wrong about Christie and Daniels.
Why is that? They're the two most intelligent Conservatives in America IMO.
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Welcome! I hope you enjoy chatting here. If you don't mind me asking, what is a Progressive Conservative? Is it an actual political party in Canada, or is it just your personal political philosophy?
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Welcome! I hope you enjoy chatting here. If you don't mind me asking, what is a Progressive Conservative? Is it an actual political party in Canada, or is it just your personal political philosophy?
They were a political Party in Canada, but they no longer exist.
Originally posted by Wikipedia
The Progressive Conservative Party of Canada (French: Parti progressiste-conservateur du Canada) (PC) (1942–2003) was a Canadian political party with a centre-right stance on economic issues and, after the 1970s, a centrist stance on social issues.
If you know your Canadian-American relations, Prime Ministers Diefenbaker , and Mulroney were leaders of the PC party. They later merged with with the Canadian Alliance (Reform Party) back in 2003, which was more of an American style Neoconservative party, to be become the Conservative Party of Canada, who are now in power under Harper.
I myself identify more with the PC, as I disagree with many of the social views of the new Conservative party.
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Why is that? They're the two most intelligent Conservatives in America IMO.
Christie is a N.E lib. Daniels is just, I don't know, but I don't trust him. They can hardly be called conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
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Christie is a N.E lib. Daniels is just, I don't know, but I don't trust him. They can hardly be called conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
You're joking right? You don't think they're Conservative? How are they not Conservative?
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Hi all! I'm Dest and I'm a Canadian! America's neighbor to the north. :) I'm 20, and I live in Toronto, Ontario. I define myself politically a Progressive Conservative leaning statesman and a Social Market Capitalist. I despise Obama for trying to turn America into a European style Social Democracy, I love Peter MacKay (Canada's Minister of Defense) because he's just a bad ass. :-) I'm incredibly disappointed with all the 2012 GOP candidates as everyone else is, and I'm hoping that Gov. Daniels or Gov. Christie will run in 2016.
I love debating history, mostly WWII (Rommel is my favorite general), politics, economics, current events, etc. I'm sure I'll fit in pretty well here! :)
Welcome! :cheersmate:
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You're joking right? You don't think they're Conservative? How are they not Conservative?
No, I'm not joking. But in deference to board rules, this is not really the place for that conversation. Perhaps if you wish to start a thread on that we can have that discussion. But for now, welcome.
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Welcome to the forum, eh ?
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You're joking right? You don't think they're Conservative? How are they not Conservative?
Welcome!! I suspect that what the members are reacting to is Canadian politics are slightly different than the US.......most of your CA party members tend to be left of "mainstream conservatives" here, particularly on social, and government encroachment issues, however, we have members from across the political spectrum..........even at least one other Canadian, who hails from the Maritimes......
Christie is liberal on some social issues (gay marriage, gun control), and Daniels has been all over the board on some fiscal policy items, not reliably conservative......
Enjoy your stay.....
doc
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You're joking right? You don't think they're Conservative? How are they not Conservative?
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,69683.0.html
Welcome--and you gave me the idea for the topic/thread. ^5 for that.
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Christie is liberal on some social issues (gay marriage, gun control), and Daniels has been all over the board on some fiscal policy items, not reliably conservative......
Enjoy your stay.....
doc
Chris Christie just vetoed NJ's same sex marriage bill though. With regard to Daniels, I was relying mostly on hearsay. I was told by a friend in Indiana that he was a good fiscal Conservative, but I guess I'll have to double check that now.
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Chris Christie just vetoed NJ's same sex marriage bill though. With regard to Daniels, I was relying mostly on hearsay. I was told by a friend in Indiana that he was a good fiscal Conservative, but I guess I'll have to double check that now.
It sorta depends on where you start from.....conservatives in the US aren't a homogeneous group (not unlike Canada), and those who come from northeastern states (and the Pacific coast) tend to be less conservative on some issues, just to stay in office.......when it comes to a national leader, we tend to become rather picky........we've had our share of "country club Republicans" in the White House over the years, and the results have not always been good (from our prospective).
To be honest, I always liked Daniels, however, some of his actions were called into question when his name popped up as a possible candidate.....you likely know more about him than I do.
doc
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It sorta depends on where you start from.....conservatives in the US aren't a homogeneous group (not unlike Canada), and those who come from northeastern states (and the Pacific coast) tend to be less conservative on some issues, just to stay in office.......when it comes to a national leader, we tend to become rather picky........we've had our share of "country club Republicans" in the White House over the years, and the results have not always been good (from our prospective).
To be honest, I always liked Daniels, however, some of his actions were called into question when his name popped up as a possible candidate.....you likely know more about him than I do.
doc
Case in point, Bush 41. He might have been from Texas when he was elected, but he's a Northeastern "moderate" Republican through-and-through.
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Case in point, Bush 41. He might have been from Texas when he was elected, but he's a Northeastern "moderate" Republican through-and-through.
I agree on that. Liberals always portray Bush as some right wing lunatic, when in actuality his domestic policy was pretty moderate. The only crazy thing he did was invade Iraq when it didn't need to be, and then he provided horrible justifications for it when there was plenty of good evidence to support his case.
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I agree on that. Liberals always portray Bush as some right wing lunatic, when in actuality his domestic policy was pretty moderate. The only crazy thing he did was invade Iraq when it didn't need to be, and then he provided horrible justifications for it when there was plenty of good evidence to support his case.
Actually, I was referring to his father, George H. W. Bush, but the same could almost be said of Bush 43 on many issues (NCLB, Medicare Part D, TARP, etc.)
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Actually, I was referring to his father, George H. W. Bush, but the same could almost be said of Bush 43 on many issues (NCLB, Medicare Part D, TARP, etc.)
Oh my bad. :-)
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Actually, I was referring to his father, George H. W. Bush, but the same could almost be said of Bush 43 on many issues (NCLB, Medicare Part D, TARP, etc.)
Let us not forget illegal immigration.....
doc
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Welcome, Dest.
It looks like you have some opinions that are looking for a nest to roost in. Dig in, and let's go.
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Welcome, Dest.
It looks like you have some opinions that are looking for a nest to roost in. Dig in, and let's go.
"Let's Get Ready to Rumble" -Michael Buffer- !