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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ogre on February 18, 2012, 02:35:33 PM
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proud2BlibKansan
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 02:40 PM
Had coffee with Congressman Cleaver (MO 5th) this morning
Took some rough notes and don't have time to write a full report but wanted to share. He said some very interesting things. Mainly about the GOP Congress reps.
"This is an assault on working people. We've come to the conclusion that govt workers are the enemy. Why?"
Congress now wants to force the unemployed to get a GED. Plus a drug test.
Cleaver has 20,000 government workers in his district. He is appalled by the attacks on them by the GOP in DC.
A GOP congressman from Lubbock, TX wanted an amendment to a bill that wouldn't allow federal $$ to be used to repair the plumbing in the White House.
Some GOPers vicariously identify with millionaires.
The only attention getters in DC are the wealthy people.
GOP wants the people to hate the government because they believe that wins them elections.
Gingrich is promoting hatred for government yet he's trying to join the system.
For the first time in history, the GOP is opposing a mass transit bill. This is because it benefits urban areas and the GOP doesn't want to spend $$$ in urban areas because the urban vote is traditionally Democratic.
They don't want Pres. Obama seen on evening news signing ANY bill. That would create the image of a successful presidency.
Henry Bloch called Cleaver to complain GOP is trying to keep him from paying more taxes. "Henry Bloch knows a little bit about taxes."
"We need GOP prez candidates to stay on TV."
"Some of the GOP in DC couldn't have gotten elected just a few years ago because the GOP wouldn't have allowed it."
"I'm glad I'm a Democrat because I don't think like THEM."
This is exactly how the zombie Apocalypse starts, first one cub reporter, then another.
Where does the madness end. :panic:
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Sorry DUmmie, but Maxine Waters has already let us know how you dims feel about republicans.
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Did someone have need of my expertise, by mentioning my calling card ?
There's no need to fear,
obumazombie is here.
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Sat Feb 18, 2012, 01:40 PM
Star Member proud2BlibKansan (90,139 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Henry Bloch called Cleaver to complain GOP is trying to keep him from paying more taxes. "Henry Bloch knows a little bit about taxes."
Here Bloch, Buffett, and all you other phony lying sacks of shit. Put your money where your mouth is and write a big, fat check and send it here:
Attn Dept G
Bureau of the Public Debt
P. O. Box 2188
Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188
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This is exactly how the zombie Apocalypse starts, first one cub reporter, then another.
Where does the madness end. :panic:
I have to say, sir, that's one damned fine headline you made up there.
Awesome.
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"Some of the GOP in DC couldn't have gotten elected just a few years ago because the GOP wouldn't have allowed it."
Yep, it's amazing what can be done when responsible citizens decide to change things. Let us sincerely hope that continues.
Congress now wants to force the unemployed to get a GED. Plus a drug test.
That is a fantastic idea!! Anyone pulling unemployment has plenty of time to repair their education. Go for it!!
GOP wants the people to hate the government because they believe that wins them elections.
Personally, I would think this says a lot more about the Dims in control than it does about the GOP...
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Quote from MrsSmith
"Personally, I would think this says a lot more about the Dims in control than it does about the GOP... "
Dims is doubly appropriate when you consider the muslim concept of "dhimmitude" , one might say, Dim, for short. x_0
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Typical! You don't have to have any responsibility, can work for the gubmint, it's damn near impossible to get rid of yer useless ass, don't have to pay into yer pension like the rest of us, get absolutely free insurance while the rest of us pay hundreds a month, and just go on yer merry way thumbin' yer nose at the rest of us, who BTW pay yer ****in' salaries!
Yeah, it's the GOP that hates America. Communist bastards!
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Wonderful.
I just can't wait till she buys a camera. :banghead:
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Congress now wants to force the unemployed to get a GED. Plus a drug test.
WTF is wrong with that?
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WTF is wrong with that?
You got me. I thought that was a good thing, but maybe I thought wrong.
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You got me. I thought that was a good thing, but maybe I thought wrong.
Should also do it for stinkin' welfare, too! All it could do is help those needin' a hand up! All the rest, deserve to live outa their cars!
Speakin' of livin' outa yer car, how's Bobo the hobo fairin' these days?
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For some reason, I think the whole story is BullShit!!!
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Speakin' of livin' outa yer car, how's Bobo the hobo fairin' these days?
It's been a long time now; she seems to have driven up into that Great Buick in the Sky.
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For some reason, I think the whole story is BullShit!!!
It wouldn't be the first time the Die alte Sau's made things up.
Remember the time she alleged the FBI and other law-enforcement were tapping the telephone line into the Ditch Witch's hotel room? She forgot it was 2008, and made the whole thing sound as if out of Get Smart! or The Man from U.N.C.L.E. or Mission: Impossible from television of the 1960s.
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The old witch ditch in the wire tap trick.
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WTF is wrong with that?
Some of those lazy liberal assholes wouldn't pass either test.
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I have to say, sir, that's one damned fine headline you made up there.
Awesome.
Thank you sir, I try to give it my best.
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There are some things that are broken about Fed civil service, however the GOP big thinkers mostly don't understand what they are or how it actually works and are more likely to **** it up worse than they are to fix it.
Two of their biggest misconceptions, which you can gather from listening to Fox Business shows like Steve Forbes and his gang of dipping birds, are:
"Those unions must be put in their place" - Federal unions can't strike and can't bargain for pay and benefits, those are set by statute. They may technically cover a big percentage of civil service workers, but only a tiny handful actually pay dues to them. Unlike State employees, where wages and benefits can usually be bargained, unions are a toothless artifact of bygone days in Federal civil service. They can grieve stuff, sure...BFD. The grievance process is insignificant next to the thing that stands in the way of firing people quickly is all the free hearings and layers of free 'Due process' CONGRESS provides via the MSPB, EEOC, and OSC, not the unions.
"Lavish defined benefit pensions" - that stopped over 25 years ago, the current system provides a limited defined benefit (1% of annual salary per year of service, i.e. after 30 years you get 30% in pension and get to keep your health insurance as long as you keep paying for it out of that, until they convert you to Medicare at 65) plus the opportunity to participate in a very generic, inflexible crippled 401k-like program, heavily weighted to (What else) US government securities, with the most aggressive possible option being an S&P index fund. The gov does pitch in an extra 5% of your salary on a sliding scale up to the first 5% you put in, and you can put in a max of 10%. It's okay, it's not fat city.
The Dems at least understand enough about it to know that the GOP brain trust doesn't understand the way it actually works, and they're inclined to just leave it alone, which is really smarter than fixing the wrong stuff and then looking stupid when it doesn't work.
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P2BL is doing political stuff and not much education. She has been totally silent about the collapse of the the Kansas City isd. It is unaccredited and the state is about to dissolve it.
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P2BL is doing political stuff and not much education. She has been totally silent about the collapse of the the Kansas City isd. It is unaccredited and the state is about to dissolve it.
If you've been lurkin' for any length of time, then you know P2BL is so full of shit her eyes are brown.
Welcom to the Cave, BTW. Have ya checked in at the lounge yet, and introduced yerself?