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Title: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Tucker on February 17, 2012, 09:29:16 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002323511

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Nuke your neighborhood. Interactive map allows you to see the effects.

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Via NPR here's a handily terrifying interactive map where you can test-bomb nukes on your neighborhood.

The explosion creates a series of concentric circles, color-coded to show the zone where everything is incinerated, the space where most things get emulsified or crushed, the space where radiation is lethal, the space where people are poisoned by radiation, the space where they are badly burned — concentric circles of destruction. The effects are chilling and fascinating. When I tried out some of the more powerful bombs, I was stunned by their destructive power. I had no idea.

When it comes down to it, I've always been in the "the living will envy the dead" camp. I'd rather be instantaneously vaporized than live without expanded cable. So to speak.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/02/17/147042804/nuking-my-house-on-line-you-can-too

(I tried it with my Milwaukee neighborhood. Wow. I had no idea.)

Link to site:

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Cool site. If the muzzies take out NYC, NY state goes red. Same with Chicago, Detroit, Boston and Philly.

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would take out about 1/4 to 1/3 of California in it happened over Sacramento.

San Fran would suffice.

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Too many strategic hardenned targets, so I am assured a fast checkout.



I know, happy joy.

I think that this report needs an in depth expose' by a top notch cub reporter.

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Many years ago I took a class on this...strangely it gave me a sense of peace.

Those poor....down in Tijuana though, they are in the you are well you knw, and good luck, unless the army base is also targeted.

Who woulda thunk it.  :rofl:

Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Bondai on February 17, 2012, 09:54:24 PM
I went straight for DC with a Russian crowd pleaser...To bad they don't have a world map...
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 17, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Madison can't be nuked because our hippie central committee has declared it a "nuclear free zone" back in the 80's or something.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Tucker on February 17, 2012, 10:42:55 PM
Madison can't be nuked because our hippie central committee has declared it a "nuclear free zone" back in the 80's or something.

Detroit is safe. It has the largest muzzie community in the US.

On second thought, they do have a hankering to be martyrs.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Airwolf on February 17, 2012, 10:58:13 PM
This area near Omaha Nebraska has never bee nsafe . With SAC and now STTRATCOM near here they would turn this place into the backside of the moon with in half an hour after launch. there's no getting away around here even if it's not a direct hit.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: diesel driver on February 18, 2012, 04:44:04 AM
I live within 50 miles (upwind) from an Army munitions plant, which at one time I believe was #7 or 8 on the Ruskie target list for a nuke.

On a lighter note, Virginia Tech and it's large liberal contingency is well within the blast zone, and UVA is downwind.   :lmao:
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 18, 2012, 05:18:11 AM
I work about half a mile from an old nuclear weapons plant, which was razed in the 80s, and is now a Superfund site.  I moved the pointer there and set off a 10kt.  Man, I hope I'm in the field that day!
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: franksolich on February 18, 2012, 05:23:55 AM
Well, I'm disappointed.

Even the "Tsar Bomba," the big one, if dropped on San Francisco, doesn't even reach as far as Sacramento.

I thought for sure that one would undo all of northern California and half of Nevada.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: catsmtrods on February 18, 2012, 06:11:16 AM
The only one that gets to me is the largest one if they target West Point or Stewart.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Doc Savage on February 18, 2012, 06:37:11 AM
You can move it all over the world.  1 Minuteman 1MT warhead takes care of 80% of Tehran.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: FreeBorn on February 18, 2012, 06:48:36 AM
Berkeley California no longer exists. :-)

When one hears of nuclear devices usually the comparison is made as to how many Hiroshima bombs it was so purely out of nostalgia I selected 18 kilotons which "Little boy" of Hiroshima fame was.

Moving the map to the San Franfreako area Berkeley just jumped out at me and it seemed like a good place to vaporize so I selected a prominent building as ground zero. "Free Speech Movement Cafe". Bingo, that's perfect.

Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: FreeBorn on February 18, 2012, 07:19:46 AM
This reminded me of a documentary I saw years ago on television, one of the news magazine shows like 20/20 or 60 Minutes IIRC.

In it there was an ex-CIA dude interviewed, shown in silhouette and with his voice electronically garbled. What he had to say was likely the most chilling thing I have ever heard. According to agent X when the Soviet Union suddenly collapsed there was quite a vacuum of power created and a lapse of security to varying degrees concerning the nuclear weapons stockpile of the Soviets.

Some base commanders kept a tight lid on things and all was well within their sphere of influence while others simply walked away and literally left the gates wide open. Lots of nukes vanished. Agent X went on to say how we had a fairly good idea of how many they had on the whole and where they all were up until the collapse. Afterwards when the reality of what had taken place began to gel there were teams dispatched to chase down the missing nukes and see what could be done to secure them. "We had guys literally buying nukes off the tailgates of pick up trucks with suitcases of cash, they were available to the highest bidder". Many were recovered that way and many weren't, still at large and it's anybody's guess where they ended up.

From Wiki~

The collapse of the Soviet Union allowed for a warming of relations with NATO. Fears of a nuclear holocaust lessened. In September 1997, the former secretary of the Russian Security Council Alexander Lebed claimed 100 "suitcase sized" nuclear weapons were unaccounted for. He said he was attempting to inventory the weapons when he was fired by President Boris Yeltsin in October 1996.[12] In 2005, Sergey Sinchenko, a legislator from the Yulia Tymoshenko Bloc, said 250 nuclear weapons were unaccounted for. When comparing documents of nuclear weapons transferred from Ukraine to weapons received by Russia, there was a 250-weapon discrepancy.[13] Indeed, several US politicians have expressed worries and promised legislation addressing the threat.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: FlaGator on February 18, 2012, 10:19:25 AM
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Those poor....down in Tijuana though, they are in the you are well you knw, and good luck, unless the army base is also targeted.

With all the drug crime in Tijuana making it a nuclear wasteland may be an improvement.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Tucker on February 18, 2012, 10:32:01 AM
With all the drug crime in Tijuana making it a nuclear wasteland may be an improvement.

At least we'll find out if the clap strain can survive a nuclear blast.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Mike220 on February 18, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
Drop a Tsar bomba in downtown Seattle, and Washington goes red immediately.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 18, 2012, 12:05:52 PM
I live within 50 miles (upwind) from an Army munitions plant, which at one time I believe was #7 or 8 on the Ruskie target list for a nuke.

On a lighter note, Virginia Tech and it's large liberal contingency is well within the blast zone, and UVA is downwind.   :lmao:

There's a silver lining in every cloud!

Berkeley California no longer exists. :-)

When one hears of nuclear devices usually the comparison is made as to how many Hiroshima bombs it was so purely out of nostalgia I selected 18 kilotons which "Little boy" of Hiroshima fame was.

Moving the map to the San Franfreako area Berkeley just jumped out at me and it seemed like a good place to vaporize so I selected a prominent building as ground zero. "Free Speech Movement Cafe". Bingo, that's perfect.



Yer just EVIL! I luv it!
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 18, 2012, 12:18:34 PM
It all depends on who's dropping them (Or setting them off).  The Russians or Chinese would either be primarily going after military targets or that plus all major population centers, but it would be a ridiculously-difficult challenge to do that without suffering massive retaliation that even if not completely successful could render them so weakened as to be vulnerable to land attack by an unpredictable array of post-war nations with land adjoining borders...and therefore not worth it.

Far more likely, one or a few weapons delivered covertly by a third-world country willing to take a risk on not being successfully identified or just didn't care, probably Muslim.  In that case there is no point in going for strategic military targets as there are too many for that mode, and no one to three of them that would decisively cripple our military capabilities.  Such an attack would instead be aimed at inflicting the maximum population and political damage, so the short list of targets would be NYC, DC, Boston, LA, SF, Seattle, Miami, etc. (I omit Chicago because it isn't a blue-water port, and I would look for such a weapon to come in by sea shipment; and as far as Detroit goes, what would be the point?). 
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Evil_Conservative on February 18, 2012, 12:26:37 PM
Does anyone else find it kind of depressing that the DUmmies are looking up this kind of stuff?  The only city I can even see getting nuked would be NYC.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Tucker on February 18, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
Does anyone else find it kind of depressing that the DUmmies are looking up this kind of stuff?  The only city I can even see getting nuked would be NYC.

No.

The DUmmies are to stupid to realize that they would be the primary target simply because of where they choose to reside.

At least they're not sprouting off on how we would like to kill em.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Rebel on February 18, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
I live within 50 miles (upwind) from an Army munitions plant, which at one time I believe was #7 or 8 on the Ruskie target list for a nuke.

I live about 20 miles upstream from Savannah River Site (Produces nukes). I'd imagine it's WAY up there on the list. Plant Vogtle (nuke power) is right across the Savannah River.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Airwolf on February 18, 2012, 01:55:39 PM
I live within 50 miles (upwind) from an Army munitions plant, which at one time I believe was #7 or 8 on the Ruskie target list for a nuke.

On a lighter note, Virginia Tech and it's large liberal contingency is well within the blast zone, and UVA is downwind.   :lmao:

Well at least with VT and all that it would be called "Urban Renewal"
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: NHSparky on February 18, 2012, 08:50:00 PM
No doubt nads will survive the coming holocaust. She has plenty of powdered milk and is uglier than any cockroach.
Title: Re: Nuke your neighbor or how to turn a blue state red
Post by: Aristotelian on February 20, 2012, 08:45:50 AM
Interesting - if the biggest one were to be set off in central London I'd be in the fire-storm bit.

Good job Lady Thatcher, Pres. Reagan, and Pope J.P.II brought down the Soviet Union.