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Title: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: cavegal on February 16, 2012, 05:30:34 PM
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A single-engine aircraft carrying drugs broke the temporary flight restriction around LAX as President Barack Obama was returning to the airport aboard Marine One, sources told NBC News.

NORAD fighter jets scrambled out of March Air Reserve Base in Riverside County and immediately surrounded the Cessna 182, escorting it to the Long Beach Airport.

"After intercepting the aircraft, the F-16s followed it until it landed without incident at approximately (11:30 p.m. PST), where the plane was met by local law enforcement," according to a statement from NORAD.

Sources told NBC News that about 10 kilograms of marijuana were discovered aboard the plane.

link (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Plane-With-Drugs-Enters-Obamas-No-Fly-Zone-139472638.html)
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: Airwolf on February 16, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
I guess the DUmp will be getting a little less of their stash this week.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: TVDOC on February 16, 2012, 05:36:36 PM
When he get out of jail, that will teach the pilot to read the latest NOTAM's......

doc
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: DefiantSix on February 16, 2012, 05:40:12 PM
When he get out of jail, that will teach the pilot to read the latest NOTAM's......

doc

Assuming, of course, that the gang/cartel he was running for allows him to survive prison.  I'd go so far as to say that this question is by no means settled at this point.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: obumazombie on February 16, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
That pilot might never serve a day, if he can name some high ranking drug racketeers.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: NHSparky on February 16, 2012, 07:53:23 PM
That pilot might never serve a day, if he can name some high ranking drug racketeers.

And if he does, he might not live long enough to see inside prison.

But seriously, 10 keys?  Major?  Pfft.  Go through Otay Mesa sometime--they don't even lift an eyebrow at that.

Someone was just looking for a little hippie lettuce for a party in Malibu this weekend.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 16, 2012, 07:56:46 PM
C'mon, it was a 'Mercy flight,' delivering an emergency shipment of 'Medical' marijuana to some poor Californian who ran out.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: obumazombie on February 16, 2012, 07:56:54 PM
220 pounds, in a 182. It certainly wouldn't overweight the aircraft, but depending on how it was packaged, it might have over volumed it.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: NHSparky on February 16, 2012, 08:06:40 PM
220 pounds, in a 182. It certainly wouldn't overweight the aircraft, but depending on how it was packaged, it might have over volumed it.

10 kilos is 22 lbs.  Not even close.

Hell, for Commiefunny, that almost qualifies as "personal use" weight.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: obumazombie on February 16, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
Sorry, my expertise with liberal logic rubbed off a little.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: Chris_ on February 16, 2012, 08:11:14 PM
I heard about the plane on the radio.  I didn't realize he was bringing "refreshments" to Barry's party.

The clowns at ABC News said the plane had "mistakenly" wandered into restricted airspace.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: wasp69 on February 17, 2012, 10:27:57 PM
Too bad for the pilot he wasn't running guns, they would have given him an escort.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 20, 2012, 07:53:43 AM
Stupid is as stupid does and stupid did...... :rotf:
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: vesta111 on February 20, 2012, 09:02:01 AM
Stupid is as stupid does and stupid did...... :rotf:

Things are getting difficult for the day on pilots today that have not qualified for instrument navigation. I wonder if they still carry a half full bottle of water so they know when their aright our upside down in the clouds.

Take a look at JFK Jr. and what happend to him, wife and sister in law.    Any one can fly a little plane, some kids get a license at 10 years old.

The Bare Foot Bandit stole a couple planes and actually got them in the air just from reading books on how to fly, last one he stole unfortunately he crashed, perhaps he was talking on his stolen cell phone at the time.

My question is the Ultra lights that skim the trees, say the load capacity is 250 pounds, the pilot weighs 140,   one can carry 110 pounds of drugs with no problem.   These baby's fly under the radar screen at tree level, can fly a good distance on one tank of gas, land in a small field, or back yard, refuel and go home to be hidden in a 2 car garage.

Cost to buy one is less then a car or van, I have no idea if one needs a license to fly them, but who cares about a license if one is flying drugs.

We can get the big boys flying in drugs, but these ultralight are like mosquitoes, hard to catch and find.

Anyone know the cost of 100 pounds of Pot on today's market, for the cost of a tank of fuel and no real overhead or chance of being caught, the return on their money won't make them millionares but sure give them them a handsome living.









Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: obumazombie on February 20, 2012, 12:05:03 PM
It's hard to have large sums of money and not have it be traceable. You can't spend it auspicously for too long.
Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: TVDOC on February 20, 2012, 12:34:38 PM
Things are getting difficult for the day on pilots today that have not qualified for instrument navigation. I wonder if they still carry a half full bottle of water so they know when their aright our upside down in the clouds.

Geez vesta, stick to the Navy, at least you have some knowledge of the subject......it's obvious that you know nothing about aviation.........pilots that are not instrument rated, avoid clouds like the plague, and even then, they have a small amount of training in instrument flight......also NO AIRCRAFT can be certified airworthy without at least a "needle, ball, and airspeed", which will tell you (along with your compass) whether you're upside down or not.......

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Take a look at JFK Jr. and what happend to him, wife and sister in law.    Any one can fly a little plane, some kids get a license at 10 years old.

WRONG......you can't be issued a private license until you are 16 years of age.......you can fly with an instructor or another licensed pilot before that age, but no license.  JFK Jr. was an idiot.....he let his ego get in the way of common sense, and made (nearly) every rookie mistake in the book on that flight......he really worked hard to earn what he got......it's just a shame that he took passengers with him.....

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My question is the Ultra lights that skim the trees, say the load capacity is 250 pounds, the pilot weighs 140,   one can carry 110 pounds of drugs with no problem.   These baby's fly under the radar screen at tree level, can fly a good distance on one tank of gas, land in a small field, or back yard, refuel and go home to be hidden in a 2 car garage.

Cost to buy one is less then a car or van, I have no idea if one needs a license to fly them, but who cares about a license if one is flying drugs.

Ultralights typically carry enough fuel for no more than a two-hour flight, and they cruise at between 25 and 45 MPH.......with a maximum range of 60 miles, you are not going to make any long-distance clandestine flights, not to mention they make a lot of noise, which makes them easy to find, and are limited to flight during daylight hours.

If ultralights were even remotely useful in smuggling drugs, the cartels would have been using them a long time ago.

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We can get the big boys flying in drugs, but these ultralight are like mosquitoes, hard to catch and find.

Anyone know the cost of 100 pounds of Pot on today's market, for the cost of a tank of fuel and no real overhead or chance of being caught, the return on their money won't make them millionares but sure give them them a handsome living.

Not hard to catch when you can ride a bicycle faster than they can fly.......

I really must be bored, I actually replied to a vesta thread....... :hammer:

doc










Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: vesta111 on February 21, 2012, 05:54:27 AM
Geez vesta, stick to the Navy, at least you have some knowledge of the subject......it's obvious that you know nothing about aviation.........pilots that are not instrument rated, avoid clouds like the plague, and even then, they have a small amount of training in instrument flight......also NO AIRCRAFT can be certified airworthy without at least a "needle, ball, and airspeed", which will tell you (along with your compass) whether you're upside down or not.......

WRONG......you can't be issued a private license until you are 16 years of age.......you can fly with an instructor or another licensed pilot before that age, but no license.  JFK Jr. was an idiot.....he let his ego get in the way of common sense, and made (nearly) every rookie mistake in the book on that flight......he really worked hard to earn what he got......it's just a shame that he took passengers with him.....

Ultralights typically carry enough fuel for no more than a two-hour flight, and they cruise at between 25 and 45 MPH.......with a maximum range of 60 miles, you are not going to make any long-distance clandestine flights, not to mention they make a lot of noise, which makes them easy to find, and are limited to flight during daylight hours.

If ultralights were even remotely useful in smuggling drugs, the cartels would have been using them a long time ago.

Not hard to catch when you can ride a bicycle faster than they can fly.......

I really must be bored, I actually replied to a vesta thread....... :hammer:

doc


You are right as usual Doc, only thing I know about Today's advances in private air craft I have is going to flyins and checking out the ultra lights for sale and talking to the people that fly them.

Small town next door to us has a 4 day fly-in and all kinds of craft show up.   Only time in 15 years that I know of there was just one accident to a UL and I blame the beer waggon for that.

Crazy SOB's, these people often build their own with power from a snowmobile engine, just waiting to see how they can power one, and they will experiment using a motor from a jet Ski.   

So I saw the possibility of using them in the drug trade here on the coast.   Cigar boats off load drugs from off shore boats, head for a stretch of land with a small pier, off the cargo into one or two UL and fly it inland 30-40 miles and stash it to be delivered by other means.  One can hop skip and jump most anywhere, sort of like the old time water bucket brigade to fight fires.

Got to know I come from a family of River Rats that smuggled in booze from Canada and were smart enough to spend their money on inside plumbing and Central heating for their homes.

Small batches, not the big time stuff, simple life, nothing to call attention to themselves.  Some of the wealthiest family's lived in homes covered in tar paper, town tax man took one look and they paid the least in taxes.   Inside was a different story, and when it came time for the kids to go to college the story went around that the kid had won a scholarship.

Heading up the coast to the Bay of Fundy small towns with some of the least sea worthy lobster boats at mooring, BUT if that scow is such a wreck why does it have top of the line radar equipment on the top of the wheel house???

Yupo, water front towns = smuggling of one sort or another, fact of life.  Corruption at every turn, been this way since the ancient city's  in the Med. began trading thousands of years ago.

Fascinating for me to research the area and the life my family survived 200+ years ago to today.   So some where in my DNA when I first saw the UL and the possibility's of use other then pleasure, it clicked, sea ,air and land.

Wasn't that long ago when on the interstate 18 wheel rigs were pulled over for smuggling cheap cigarettes up from Maryland.  ------------Only thing cheaper were the old time " Sea Stores" the sailors brought home and smuggled off base.

Title: Re: F-16s Intercept Drug Plane in Obama's No-Fly Zone
Post by: NHSparky on February 21, 2012, 08:31:11 AM
And why does it not surprise me that vesta shows up in a thread where drugs are mentioned?