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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tess Anderson on January 30, 2012, 02:10:29 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002234470
I don't thinks she understands the "English only" movement - all it is is saying all government business has to be conducted in English. But her high school Spanish was a big help when she needed to find the ladies' room at a discount store ::):
HockeyMom (7,291 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Forget English Only. YOU learn some Spanish
It might help you, and others. I went shopping today in Florida just as the Ross store was opening. There were no other customers in the store, only store employees. By the time I got to the back of the store, I had to go to the Ladies Room very badly, but didn't know where it was. I went up to a woman wearing a store ID and asked where the Ladies Room was. Apparently, she did not speak English and pointed in the direction of the Manager at the front door.
Oh, no. I couldn't wait to walk all the way back there. Without even thinkinng I blurtered out in my 50 year old HS Spanish, "Donde esta EL BANO?". She stopped, turn towards me, and said, "Si, Si, SI!", and then took my hand and lead me to the Ladies Room. I waved her a quick "Gracias", and went in.
Only one other time have I had to actually use in an emergency my HS Spanish. As a teenager in NYC, I once had to "translate" to a police officier what a Spanish only speaking woman in distress needed his help for. All this with only 3 years of classroom Spanish?
My point in this? Learning another language in the USA is not a bad thing, as those English Only advocates would want people to believe. What is wrong with native English speakers learning another language, specially SPANISH? I knew when I had to take Foreign Language in HS 50 years ago that Spanish would be the most practical choice. I do not regret it, at all. I used it in NYC 50 years ago, and have used it "today" many other times in Florida.
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HockeyMom (7,291 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Forget English Only. YOU learn some Spanish
Leck mich, Schweinhundin.
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Leck mich, Schweinhundin.
I do not know what you said Mr. Tanker but that does not sound like a compliment coming from a bilingual man.
Helps as you well know to have more then the mother tongue, learning other languages is no big deal as long as we all can speak the language of the country we live or work in.
America is English speaking and should be so. Now if one goes into the hospital for a few days and the Nurses are from South of the Border it helps to be able to tell them where your OWIE is. Usefull way to explain why they have their instructions confused and the enema tube does not go in your nose. Or vice verse.
My sister in law moved to Miami and working for the state had to learn Cuban a requirement for the job. She still has her Boston accent speaking to us but there are a few strange pronunciations as she for 35 years spends most of her time speaking another language. Great her kids are bilingual, and have it over the kids that only speak English, they can work anywhere.
Any idea what it like for a small town hospital ER to have someone in great pain and not be able to speak English, we at work had people that spoke 5 different Asian dialects and English on call, the company would send them to interpret, the company was paid for the time of the worker or workers, some times it took more then one person to figure out what language the patient was speaking.
Unfortunately my Spanish is limited to just a few words, Hola and Civasa por fervour. Just enough to get me thrown in jail in Arizona.
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We all must learn Spanish so Hockymom can find the toilet when she has the runs.
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HockeyMom, chupa su madre puts tambien dame un besso en mi culo.
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×ין דבר רע ×¢× ×ž×•×“×¢ ×–×¨×™× ×©×¤×•×ª, ×בל ×× ×’×œ×™×ª צריך להיות בצורה ×ויברסלית-הבין משפטיות לשון של ×רצות-הברית.
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HockeyMom, chupa su madre puts tambien dame un besso en mi culo.
AHA, I recognise the kiss my ass, rest is kind of scary.
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uck-say i-may ock-kay oo-yay oopid-stay ore-hay
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uck-say i-may ock-kay oo-yay oopid-stay ore-hay
Oink Oink, Lovey, I love it when you speak to me like that. Makes my fanny quiver.
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Aaaaand SSB picks up a stalker chick!
:rotf:
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I'm getting off this thread if people are going to speak mexican
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002234470
I don't thinks she understands the "English only" movement - all it is is saying all government business has to be conducted in English. But her high school Spanish was a big help when she needed to find the ladies' room at a discount store ::):
Rather then instructing the rest of us to learn to speak a foreign language so that we can get along better in our own Country, hockeymom should be all over the management at Ross for hiring employees who can't speak a word of English and are unable to assist their English speaking customers.
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Aaaaand SSB picks up a stalker chick!
:rotf:
Right on, not often I get that tingle when a man spoke to me that way, damn he must be good, that Bunny bit kind of turns me on not to mention his way with words. OHHHHH I do love a silver tongued devil speaking pig Latin.
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Hey, HockeyMom. Press "1" for~
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee255/BubbaKahuna/goof/middlefingeravatar.gif)
This is America. You no likey? Too bad. Take your fat bloated faggot ass south of the border and see how well you are accommodated, Gringo.
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To the people saying "learn some Spanish," would you ever consider moving to a foreign country and simply not bothering to learn the native language? The woman didn't even know enough English to know how to answer "Where is the bathroom?" That woman is living and working in the US, and doesn't speak even the most basic level of English, and we should be the ones to make her comfortable? Forget that.
My brother's friend applied for a job a pizza place in high school, and he wasn't hired because the kitchen staff only spoke Spanish, so all the employees at the front had to be bilingual. How does that make sense?
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Hey, HockeyMom. Press "1" for~
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee255/BubbaKahuna/goof/middlefingeravatar.gif)
This is America. You no likey? Too bad. Take your fat bloated faggot ass south of the border and see how well you are accommodated, Gringo.
So I take it you do not travel outside our country. Go visit Montreal Canada and see how far you as a tourist get there speaking only English. No parlay voes, too bad. Head to Toronto, no speak Asian, too bad.
Come home and get stuck in NYC, don't understand Ebonics or Jive talk, your problem.
Take a cruise to south America and get separated from the tour, now what, how to get back to the ship when you cannot tell a cab driver where you want to go.
There is a reason the term Ugly American was coined, tourists that expected the rest of the world to speak English.
Stay out of Florida, if you have no idea of how to speak Cuban or Spanish, darn at a 7/ 11 you will have to pay $15.00 for a ice tea.
So when do you think we have to close off the gates to America from tourists that do not speak English, do we ignore tourists with big money to spend or find them the same kind of help we Americans expect to get when we travel.
Free born, unless one never leaves their small town to go anywhere then English as the only language is fine until a big company moves into town with workers from around the world. One must adapt and learn from the new comers until they learn English. As they learn English, small business must learn enough of their language mixed in with English to sell to them.
This is a new world, it took time for the immigrants in the early 1900 to learn English, no problem the new Americans helped us build America and fight and die for it.
The influx of Jews after WW2 was huge, they on landing here knew no English yet they adapted to become scientists, doctors and helped to build our space age.
Give these no English speaking people time, help them, no need to disparage a tourest or settler here, treat them as you would want to be treated were you to go for any reason to another country where no or little English is spoken.
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Vesta I've been to Mexico, three Canadian provinces including Quebec, Hawaii, Okinawa, P.I. and 23 states back here on both coasts. I'm no hick.
Anyone from anywhere that strays from the tourist areas when abroad deserves what they find there, stupid is as stupid does.
I for one DO NOT advocate for we Americans to bend over backwards to accommodate foreigners among us, when in Rome...
So far as the MILLIONS of Mexican and other Latino nationals that have snuck through a hole in the fence in the dark of night like so many animals I actually DO advocate helping them.
I'm all for providing them with a bottle of water, a burrito, a cheap pair of sneakers and a compass that points always south.
Adios. U.S.A. not YOU, esse...
Now if any of them wish to apply for citizenship THROUGH PROPER LEGAL CHANNELS and then when and IF accepted they wish to come here and join in the melting pot, assimilate themselves into OUR AMERICAN CULTURE in good faith with the heartfelt will to BECOME AMERICANS I am all for it. Seriously.
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×ין דבר רע ×¢× ×ž×•×“×¢ ×–×¨×™× ×©×¤×•×ª, ×בל ×× ×’×œ×™×ª צריך להיות בצורה ×ויברסלית-הבין משפטיות לשון של ×רצות-הברית.
Show off. :lol:
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Good grief it doesn't take a rocket scientist to find a bathroom in a department store, but obviously that is way too hard for the sooper geniuses of DU.
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I know someone who's a staunch liberal, even has the Obama/Biden signs up, her opinion? you come to this Country you learn English.
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Show off. :lol:
I know.
I was feeling a little bit attention-whorish when I posted that.
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Ian David
10. Or, you COULD have just crossed your legs and started bouncing up and down.
The pee-pee-dance is pretty much universally recognized.
:lmao:
E hey, che cosa di noi popolari italiane?
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I like this one myself. Especially the last sentence...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkmqyeYSFt0[/youtube]
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But the DUmmie profiled the poor Ross worker. The fact that she didn't try to speak to her in Swahili, Mandarin, Farsi, and Dutch before trying Spanish proves what a terrible bigot the DUmmie really is. She just assumed based on skin color.
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Good grief it doesn't take a rocket scientist to find a bathroom in a department store, but obviously that is way too hard for the sooper geniuses of DU.
Any idea where the woman came from? Some tourists and new comers have never seen a department store before, they are use to small stores that specialise in what ever.
Our American stores are a wonderment to people who come from country's that have no such thing. Supermarkets in the Veg Isle with bin after bin of fresh veggies and fruits from all over the world takes some getting use to.
We are use to this as Americans, those from other places are overwhelmed by the sight. When you put this into a Walmart with everything else stocked, it can become a boggle the mind experience.
This woman could not find the bathroom, no surprise , I have gone into new stores and had to ask where they were.
Unfamiliar territory and no idea of the lay out of the store.
At least someone got the woman to a bathroom using highschool Spanish. Good for them, the very least one can do for another human is to try your darnedest to help them in a time of need.
Freeper I believe you would not just point at the bathroom but escort them to it, I have to believe in the goodness in us all.
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Here's a good read for you, Vesta~
http://news.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=312428
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Let's be politically correct here and cover all these languages too!
Where's the bathroom?
Waar is die toilet?
Ku është banjo?
أين الØمام؟
ÕˆÖ€Õ¿Õ¥Õ² Õ§ Õ¦Õ¸Ö‚Õ£Õ¡Ö€Õ¡Õ¶Õ¨.
Banyoda harada?
Non dago bainugela?
Дзе туалет?
কোথায় বাথরà§à¦®?
Къде е банÑта?
On és el lavabo?
å«ç”Ÿé—´åœ¨å“ªé‡Œï¼Ÿ
衛生間在哪裡？
Gdje je kupaonica?
Kde je koupelna?
Hvor er toilettet?
Waar is het toilet?
Kus on vannituba?
Saan ang banyo?
Missä kylpyhuone?
Où sont les toilettes?
Onde está o baño?
სáƒáƒ“ áƒáƒ ის áƒáƒ‘áƒáƒ–áƒáƒœáƒáƒ¨áƒ˜?
Wo ist die Toilette?
Î Î¿Ï ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Î¹ η τουαλÎτα;
જà«àª¯àª¾àª‚ બાથરૂમમાં છે?
Ki kote nan twalèt la?
×יפה השירותי×?
शौचालय कहाठहै?
Hol van a fürdőszoba?
Hvar er baðherbergi?
Mana kamar mandi?
Cá bhfuil an seomra folctha?
Dov'è il bagno?
トイレã¯ã©ã“ã§ã™ã‹ï¼Ÿ
ಬಾತೠರೂಂ ವೇರೠತಂದೆಯ?
í™”ìž¥ì‹¤ì´ ì–´ë””ì—ìš”?
Ubi ipsum dolor sit?
Kur ir vannas istabÄ?
Kur tualetas?
Каде е тоалетот?
Di manakah bilik air?
Fejn hi l-kamra tal-banju?
Hvor er badet?
Øمام؟
Gdzie jest Å‚azienka?
Onde é o banheiro?
Unde e baia?
Где туалет?
Где је купатило?
Kde je kúpeľňa?
Kje je kopalnica?
¿Dónde está el baño?
Bafuni wapi?
Var är toaletten?
கà¯à®³à®¿à®¯à®²à®±à¯ˆ எஙà¯à®•à¯‡?
బాతà±à°°à±‚మౠఎకà±à°•à°¡ జరగబోతోంది?
ห้à¸à¸‡à¸™à¹‰à¸³à¸à¸¢à¸¹à¹ˆà¸—ี่ไหนหรืà¸à¹„ม่?
Banyo nerede?
Де тут туалет?
باتھ Ú©Ûاں ÛÛ’ØŸ
TrÆ°á»ng hợp của phòng tắm?
Ble mae'r ystafell ymolchi?
ווו ס די קל×ָזעט?
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Rather then instructing the rest of us to learn to speak a foreign language so that we can get along better in our own Country, hockeymom should be all over the management at Ross for hiring employees who can't speak a word of English and are unable to assist their English speaking customers.
It's my guess that Hockeymom is a lying sack of hockey pucks. Highly doubtful her local Ross employs people who can't manage English. Hell, I live close to the border and our Ross, and many other stores, try to hire bilingual people so as to serve the considerable numbers of Mexicans who cross to shop in Sierra Vista. By the way, since these fine folks shop and eat here, then depart for home, we welcome them here with open arms. They are here legally, which I know is a difficult concept for the dummies to grasp.
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HockeyMom (7,291 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
She stopped, turn towards me, and said, "Si, Si, SI!", and then took my hand and lead me to the Ladies Room. I waved her a quick "Gracias", and went in.
So she had to be led by the hand to the ladies room? This is really pathetic.
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Let's be politically correct here and cover all these languages too!
Where's the bathroom?
Waar is die toilet?
Ku është banjo?
أين الØمام؟
ÕˆÖ€Õ¿Õ¥Õ² Õ§ Õ¦Õ¸Ö‚Õ£Õ¡Ö€Õ¡Õ¶Õ¨.
Banyoda harada?
Non dago bainugela?
Дзе туалет?
কোথায় বাথরà§à¦®?
Къде е банÑта?
On és el lavabo?
å«ç”Ÿé—´åœ¨å“ªé‡Œï¼Ÿ
衛生間在哪裡？
Gdje je kupaonica?
Kde je koupelna?
Hvor er toilettet?
Waar is het toilet?
Kus on vannituba?
Saan ang banyo?
Missä kylpyhuone?
Où sont les toilettes?
Onde está o baño?
სáƒáƒ“ áƒáƒ ის áƒáƒ‘áƒáƒ–áƒáƒœáƒáƒ¨áƒ˜?
Wo ist die Toilette?
Î Î¿Ï ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Î¹ η τουαλÎτα;
જà«àª¯àª¾àª‚ બાથરૂમમાં છે?
Ki kote nan twalèt la?
×יפה השירותי×?
शौचालय कहाठहै?
Hol van a fürdőszoba?
Hvar er baðherbergi?
Mana kamar mandi?
Cá bhfuil an seomra folctha?
Dov'è il bagno?
トイレã¯ã©ã“ã§ã™ã‹ï¼Ÿ
ಬಾತೠರೂಂ ವೇರೠತಂದೆಯ?
í™”ìž¥ì‹¤ì´ ì–´ë””ì—ìš”?
Ubi ipsum dolor sit?
Kur ir vannas istabÄ?
Kur tualetas?
Каде е тоалетот?
Di manakah bilik air?
Fejn hi l-kamra tal-banju?
Hvor er badet?
Øمام؟
Gdzie jest Å‚azienka?
Onde é o banheiro?
Unde e baia?
Где туалет?
Где је купатило?
Kde je kúpeľňa?
Kje je kopalnica?
¿Dónde está el baño?
Bafuni wapi?
Var är toaletten?
கà¯à®³à®¿à®¯à®²à®±à¯ˆ எஙà¯à®•à¯‡?
బాతà±à°°à±‚మౠఎకà±à°•à°¡ జరగబోతోంది?
ห้à¸à¸‡à¸™à¹‰à¸³à¸à¸¢à¸¹à¹ˆà¸—ี่ไหนหรืà¸à¹„ม่?
Banyo nerede?
Де тут туалет?
باتھ Ú©Ûاں ÛÛ’ØŸ
TrÆ°á»ng hợp của phòng tắm?
Ble mae'r ystafell ymolchi?
ווו ס די קל×ָזעט?
Pretty sure I don't see Mayan. Why do you hate the Mayans?:)
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Someone named HockeyMom lives in Florida?
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So she had to be led by the hand to the ladies room? This is really pathetic.
This a liberal we're talking about. If she had seen a police car out front, it could have confused the poor darling. :-)
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Pretty sure I don't see Mayan. Why do you hate the Mayans?:)
:-)
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Any idea where the woman came from? Some tourists and new comers have never seen a department store before, they are use to small stores that specialise in what ever.
Our American stores are a wonderment to people who come from country's that have no such thing. Supermarkets in the Veg Isle with bin after bin of fresh veggies and fruits from all over the world takes some getting use to.
We are use to this as Americans, those from other places are overwhelmed by the sight. When you put this into a Walmart with everything else stocked, it can become a boggle the mind experience.
This woman could not find the bathroom, no surprise , I have gone into new stores and had to ask where they were.
Unfamiliar territory and no idea of the lay out of the store.
At least someone got the woman to a bathroom using highschool Spanish. Good for them, the very least one can do for another human is to try your darnedest to help them in a time of need.
Freeper I believe you would not just point at the bathroom but escort them to it, I have to believe in the goodness in us all.
The DUmmy was looking for the toilet, not the woman who didn't speak English.
If someone asks me where the restrooms are I ask them if they are a democrat or a republican, then if they say demo I tell them to go to hell. :-)
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The DUmmy was looking for the toilet, not the woman who didn't speak English.
If someone asks me where the restrooms are I ask them if they are a democrat or a republican, then if they say demo I tell them to go to hell. :-)
Or you could just tell them restrooms are for paying customers only...
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Try going to Europe and demanding that they, "Learn some English". Although many of them speak it it is considered the height of arrogance to expect them to. You'd be amazed at the difference in attitude of the natives if you make an effort to learn even a few words and phrases. It's a sign of respect for them and their country.
According to DUmmies, of course, America deserves no respect. We're supposed to spend our lives apologizing just for being American. Screw them.
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in die Hose scheißen
(Spent a year in Kitzingen)
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×ין דבר רע ×¢× ×ž×•×“×¢ ×–×¨×™× ×©×¤×•×ª, ×בל ×× ×’×œ×™×ª צריך להיות בצורה ×ויברסלית-הבין משפטיות לשון של ×רצות-הברית.
Neocon.
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I never took a class in Spanish... ever. I learned my Spanish while living in Phoenix. Rarely had to use it, but knew just enough if I had to use it or wanted to read a billboard about tires.
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No parlay voes,
Vesta, if you were trying to speak French there, you failed. Miserably.
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I remember being in Palermo a few years back. I learned a few phrases that would get me by but some things were beyond my Italian and their English.
Ordering a cappuccino to go was interesting to say the least. But between my limited Italian, the gentleman at the counters limited English and a few hand gestures we were laughing and both got what we needed. :rotf:
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I've only traveled to Europe and Mexico. When I went I took a phrase book and tried to learn a few basics. I DO NOT expect to have to do that in my own country and I WON'T.
Vesta, You mentioned business. English is the internationally recognized language of the business world. My husband works with international grad students who will many times be turned down for great jobs, not all in the US either, due to their poor grasp of English. Those students do not come to him whining about it. They come to him to ask what they can do to solve their problem; their problem.
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I've only traveled to Europe and Mexico. When I went I took a phrase book and tried to learn a few basics. I DO NOT expect to have to do that in my own country and I WON'T.
Vesta, You mentioned business. English is the internationally recognized language of the business world. My husband works with international grad students who will many times be turned down for great jobs, not all in the US either, due to their poor grasp of English. Those students do not come to him whining about it. They come to him to ask what they can do to solve their problem; their problem.
English is also the language of science and technology, airplane control, finance, and just about every other major industry. Knowing English is one of the best ways to get ahead not only in the USA but in the world. The illegals that come here and refuse to learn it are only dooming themselves to a life of poverty.
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Vesta, if you were trying to (insert any activity) there, you failed. Miserably.
FIFY.
Tell ya what, HockeyMom--you want other people to speak whatever language they want? Cool. Califunny is real big on the multiculturalism, to the point where the LAUSD is mandated to provide a translator for a student for ANY LANGUAGE, as long as there are at least five students in that district who speak the language.
LAUSD has about 700,000 students. Among the languages spoken are including, but not limited to:
Spanish
Tagalog
Russian
Korean
Japanese
Armenian
Chinese (Cantonese)
Vietnamese
Farsi
And according to LAUSD's own statistics, there are 96 languages spoken by LAUSD students.
Guess who's paying for that?
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Speaking of learning new languages....has anyone tried Rosetta Stone? I would love to learn Spanish because I'm seeing more and more job postings mentioning that being bilingual would be a plus. Rosetta Stone is expensive, so I'd like to know if it really works before I buy it.
If I need to start a new thread for this, please let me know.
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I'm seeing more and more job postings mentioning that being bilingual would be a plus.
It's too bad more and more job postings dont mention speaking English is a requirement of employment.
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It's too bad more and more job postings dont mention speaking English is a requirement of employment.
True, but for the jobs I'm looking at I believe it is more of a sales thing. The last company I worked for had a client from France and it helped greatly that we actually had a Frenchman working for us. He helped us get the contract.
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To the people saying "learn some Spanish," would you ever consider moving to a foreign country and simply not bothering to learn the native language? The woman didn't even know enough English to know how to answer "Where is the bathroom?" That woman is living and working in the US, and doesn't speak even the most basic level of English, and we should be the ones to make her comfortable? Forget that.
My brother's friend applied for a job a pizza place in high school, and he wasn't hired because the kitchen staff only spoke Spanish, so all the employees at the front had to be bilingual. How does that make sense?
I speak Spanish. It's called self-defense, I had two Peurto Rican, a Cuban, two Mexicans, and a Panamanian for novias at different times.
I'm about as gringo as they come. I walked into a McDonald's near Alexandria, VA a few years ago and tried to order QPC in English. The cashier looked at me for a second then inquired to the cashier beside her in Spanish about "What does this gaucho want?". I told what I wanted in Spanish, which surprised the hell out of her then told her to fetch her manager. He could speak English but could not explain why he had cashiers that could not. I walked out without paying.
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There is a reason the term Ugly American was coined, tourists that expected the rest of the world to speak English.
Vesta, I've seen Ugly-Americans exactly twice.
Once the "American" was an English speaking German that made an ass out of himself in Mexico. A native English Speaker could pick him out, a Mexican peon couldn't. The Mexican guy was surprised when I explained to him that guy was about as American as Lederhosen.
The second time was as a tourist in Rome. I was travelling alone and blending in with the locals (trying to speak the language and trying to dress like them) when I got pushed around by a bunch of New Yorkers travelling in a pack. A shopkeeper waited till they left his shop and laughed at how bad he had gouged the Americans. I told him I was American and he had a good laugh, he thought I was a Scot.
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Try going to Europe and demanding that they, "Learn some English". Although many of them speak it it is considered the height of arrogance to expect them to. You'd be amazed at the difference in attitude of the natives if you make an effort to learn even a few words and phrases. It's a sign of respect for them and their country.
According to DUmmies, of course, America deserves no respect. We're supposed to spend our lives apologizing just for being American. Screw them.
My German must be horrendous, any time I tried to speak a few phrases, they waived their hands and told me to just speak English.
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Speaking of learning new languages....has anyone tried Rosetta Stone? I would love to learn Spanish because I'm seeing more and more job postings mentioning that being bilingual would be a plus. Rosetta Stone is expensive, so I'd like to know if it really works before I buy it.
If I need to start a new thread for this, please let me know.
There are cheaper options that seemed to be just as good to me. (I have only tried the bootleg version I bought overseas, not the purchased version.)
The immersion and ability to correct pronounciation abilities of the software is helpful. It's also helpful to find some message boards where the language is written after you learn a bit of it and try to communicate with native speakers. At least that is my opinion.
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Thanks for the info Vagabond. I'll look into cheaper options.
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Thanks for the info Vagabond. I'll look into cheaper options.
I foxed that one, the temp company sent in a bunch or workers and they were assigned to my line. I was told all spoke English, HA, 2 days of my complaining that these people I was suppose to train could not speak English and the boss man saying they could, I headed for Barns& Nobel and the children's section. There I picked up Spanish learning tapes for Kids not Adults. Grades 0 to 2.
Teaching children to speak a language be it the Mother tongue or another is much the same in most cultures. Do any of you remember singing the Alphabet song, as a kid????? Why is it a 3 year old can sing the words to a song they hear played about the house often and at times repeat a word spoken in anger??? My first learned the word shit when I tripped over a vaccum cleaner. She passed that on to her younger siblings.
So I brought the tapes and played the age 0 first. The sound of a running faucet and the Spanish word for water.
I sort of compaired to teaching Helen Keller to understand through touch the world around her.
So on the tape went, sounds first then the Spanish word. Nothing complex just to associate words with sounds.
First 2 listening to only 30 minutes I could go to work and just using one word and allot of hand gestures give the workers a short break at the water fountain. Came break and I could just use one word or too ---- To eat that also includes drinking to let the workers know their break had arrived. Hand motions helped, to mimic breaking something and just one word to let the workers know
Much I learned to recognise when the workers were talking among themselves. There is so much in English that cannot be translated into their own language that the English word has to be used. Then the foreign words we use in English. Every one over the age of 15 has heard the word Gringo, then the curse words but no country yet has been able to beat English with the F word and the one finger salute.
The last hour of so of the tape was MUSIC. All the words used before had been placed in a catching songs. You know like the music and song from an ad that gets into the brain and drives us crazy.
I never got to the next tape for the 5 year olds, I was really feeling good about myself and finally on a 3 year old vocabulary instruct them and they UNDERSTOOD me.
Came to work one day and THEY were gone. The next group to come in were Cambodians, YIKES, One worker became my Angel, spoke English and guided me into the Phonetic pronouncing of the word. Not the spelling or written word, just the Pronouncing of the word. They stayed 3 weeks.
Had the Latinos stayed a year with us I would have been able to master the language some what. Once they were gone there was no one I could practice with those that spoke Spanish, or any of the 50+ derivatives of it.
By the way Panama has Portuguese as does Brazil as a common language.
The most important thing is to find someone you see every day that wants to learn with you, to try to learn a language by yourself is difficult at best. Think back on how you as a child learned English, pause a moment to remember what were your child's first words, Mama, daddy, so learn the same in what ever language you wish to learn, on to your child learning to request their bottle or a drink of water. -----BY BY and a hand wave placed the idea that someone was going away. Mind connection to a word and an action is the key.
Want to really learn another language, the kid tapes are the best way to start, Darn I speak English and if a split infinitive and a dangling partsable were to sneak up on me in the night, ------Clean up in Master Bed room, Verb and Noun now engaged in fight over who comes first.
By the way I tried this on Hubby, used words in Spanish to force him into learning with me. Table has food to take . Disaster, if one has no interest in learning new words, don't force them. One time I tried to request him to head out to buy us some Avocados, He as a Boston Irishman thought I wanted a new car. He spent hours in car lots looking for some kind of car that he could not pronounce after 30 minutes or so.
Remember the Nova, nice fun car -----Unfortunately if I had asked him in Spanish to head for the junk yard and find a Chevie Nova we could rebuild, he would have come with Lords knows what ------Here she is, she no go.
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:lmao:
I still like the fellow that got sued for his sign in front of his business that said, "English only spoken here"...can't remember if he won or lost but his next sign said "Speak any damn language you want, we only understand English".
:lmao: :lmao:
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There is a reason the term Ugly American was coined,
50 years ago, maybe. Way to stick with the outdated stereotypes.
Want to know who the rudest tourists are? EUROS--specifically French and Brit tourists, although for my money, Koreans are the pushiest, literally shoving their way to the front of lines, etc. However, European tourists are getting the rep the Americans had (incorrectly) 50 years ago--arrogant, penny-pinching (read: never tip), don't even TRY to speak the local language, or trash hotels.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8143780.stm
http://www.skyscanner.net/news/articles/2011/03/009492-brits-vote-themselves-worlds-worst-tourists-londoners-most-badly-behaved.html
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50 years ago, maybe. Way to stick with the outdated stereotypes.
Want to know who the rudest tourists are? EUROS--specifically French and Brit tourists, although for my money, Koreans are the pushiest, literally shoving their way to the front of lines, etc. However, European tourists are getting the rep the Americans had (incorrectly) 50 years ago--arrogant, penny-pinching (read: never tip), don't even TRY to speak the local language, or trash hotels.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8143780.stm
http://www.skyscanner.net/news/articles/2011/03/009492-brits-vote-themselves-worlds-worst-tourists-londoners-most-badly-behaved.html
Rude tourists you say, they are here for only a few days. What about the legal settlers that have to put up with us Americans that find they do not over night learn English.-------1670,s) most settlers spoke french up north.
Anyone in America legally is due respect, so a woman is confused on the first months living in America on where is what. Are we nuts to not help same as we will a person with a handicap ??? Not knowing English and learning slowly is a handicap I dare anyone to tell me they can go to China and in 3 months speak fluently.
It takes much guts to leave a country with family and life long living there. Some have to give up life long savings to travel. What they will find they do not know but anything is better then what they have escaped from.
Give me a break, people travel and immigrate around the world, this is in the nature of man, to see what the bear sees over the mountain.
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My German must be horrendous, any time I tried to speak a few phrases, they waived their hands and told me to just speak English.
Being willing to try goes a very long way with them, though, I assure you. Mine isn't bad, the problem is it's just good enough that they think I speak it really well, and then they kick into high gear where I catch about every third word.
:-)
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Anyone in America legally is due respect, so a woman is confused on the first months living in America on where is what. Are we nuts to not help same as we will a person with a handicap ??? Not knowing English and learning slowly is a handicap I dare anyone to tell me they can go to China and in 3 months speak fluently.
If I was there with the intention of living there permanently, I would damn sure have 3 months of lessons behind me in 3 months and I damn sure wouldn't be demanding they learn my native f'n tongue. You come here, it is your responsibility to learn English; not our responsibility to adapt to the ****ing language of the nation you just left. Don't like it, stay your sorry ass in your homeland.
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Rude tourists you say, they are here for only a few days. What about the legal settlers that have to put up with us Americans that find they do not over night learn English.-------1670,s) most settlers spoke french up north.
Anyone in America legally is due respect, so a woman is confused on the first months living in America on where is what. Are we nuts to not help same as we will a person with a handicap ??? Not knowing English and learning slowly is a handicap I dare anyone to tell me they can go to China and in 3 months speak fluently.
It takes much guts to leave a country with family and life long living there. Some have to give up life long savings to travel. What they will find they do not know but anything is better then what they have escaped from.
Give me a break, people travel and immigrate around the world, this is in the nature of man, to see what the bear sees over the mountain.
(http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/c/c5/McCoy_experiencing_cordrazine_frenzy.jpg)
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DUmmie wants to know....do you....
Polly-flu-franz-say?
Spread-n-zee-dutch?
Speak-mary-can?
Hob-lay-gob-lay-my-nob-lay....only spoken in San Francisco.
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Being willing to try goes a very long way with them, though, I assure you.
Uh huh. I'm sure I mangled Russian and Ukrainian quite a bit, but it was always a big "plus" with speakers of those languages that I at least tried. No one ever laughed; they were sincerely pleased that at least I tried.
Mine isn't bad, the problem is it's just good enough that they think I speak it really well, and then they kick into high gear where I catch about every third word.
In my particular, uh, case, this goes for merely hearing too; when I convey that even though I'm deaf, I can understand someone, the tendency is start speaking as if I can actually hear, while I on the inside am screaming, "Hey, hey, slow down and go back to the pace you were going before....."