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Title: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Chris_ on May 07, 2008, 08:08:09 AM
Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President

BarHouse Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) told Cybercast News Service on Tuesday he will move to end the Iraq War with an immediate termination of funding if a Democrat becomes president next year.

"I will move to cut funding immediately," said Frank. "I have already done that. I voted against the war and voted to cut the funding. I would hope a Democratic president would put in place a plan that would begin a total withdrawal."

So far, neither of the Democratic presidential candidates, Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, has been willing to unambiguously commit to a plan to remove all U.S. troops from Iraq by 2013.

When the Democratic candidates were asked by NBC's Tim Russert, during the Sept. 26, 2007 debate, if they would pledge to withdraw U.S. combat troops by 2013 if they were elected president, neither Obama nor Clinton would make the pledge.

"I think it's hard to project four years from now," said Obama. "It is very difficult to know what we're going to be inheriting," Clinton said.

When Cybercast New Service asked Frank if he believed the U.S. would be out of Iraq by 2013, he said he cannot make any guarantees but that he will do his best to make sure that it happens. "Read the Constitution," he said. "As an individual member of the House, I cannot guarantee anything like that, but I can guarantee you that I will continue to support a withdrawal well before 2013."

House Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) also said it is not possible to set 2013 as a definite deadline for withdrawal. "I would say that anyone who gives a guarantee should be committed," he said.

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), the former presidential candidate, predicted that the Democrats would not take real action to end the war, even if one of their own was elected president. "I don't expect anyone to make a concrete effort to stop the war. We had the first test after the Democrats took over Congress," he said. "Nothing has happened.

MORE (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200805/POL20080507b.html)

 :censored: Barney Frank.
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 07, 2008, 08:18:46 AM
General Election soundbite alert! :-)

hit the BarackStar! with that one, and see what he has got to say.  it's a lose-lose
for him.  if he agrees with frank, he creates a bloodbath in iraq (not to mention a
death grappple with congressional republicans), and snatches defeat from the jaws
of victory.  if he disagrees, he pisses off his base.

either way, "untity", "healing", and "uniting" are all dead issues.
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: DixieBelle on May 07, 2008, 09:31:24 AM
haven't they nailed BarackStar! on his Iraq stance? Didn't he first say immediate pull out and then recently say 18-24 months or something less severe? i have a hard time keeping up with the campaign rhetoric.
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 07, 2008, 09:46:47 AM
haven't they nailed BarackStar! on his Iraq stance? Didn't he first say immediate pull out and then recently say 18-24 months or something less severe? i have a hard time keeping up with the campaign rhetoric.

and then he said that he would listen to the commanders in the field "once he has given them their new assignment",
but would defer to their judgment.  then he said something about semi-permanent security forces. 

but you're right, there was a month or so that hillary and baroque were playing this bizarre game over who would
get every single last soldier out of iraq to fastest.  you just don't hear that anymore.  s'ok, we gots the video. :wink:
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Lacarnut on May 07, 2008, 10:34:01 AM

and then he said that he would listen to the commanders in the field "once he has given them their new assignment",
but would defer to their judgment.  then he said something about semi-permanent security forces. 



Those political hacks in the Democratic party did not listen to General Petraeus when he testified before Congress recently. Bubba did not listen to the military nor did Carter. So I don't believe a word coming out of their lying mouths. 
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 07, 2008, 10:35:24 AM

and then he said that he would listen to the commanders in the field "once he has given them their new assignment",
but would defer to their judgment.  then he said something about semi-permanent security forces. 



Those political hacks in the Democratic party did not listen to General Petraeus when he testified before Congress recently. Bubba did not listen to the military nor did Carter. So I don't believe a word coming out of their lying mouths. 

neither do I.  I was just agreeing with Dixie that he has changed his story more often than he has changed his socks.
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Chris_ on May 07, 2008, 11:36:05 AM
haven't they nailed BarackStar! on his Iraq stance? Didn't he first say immediate pull out and then recently say 18-24 months or something less severe? i have a hard time keeping up with the campaign rhetoric.
Maybe he's hired John $kerry to write his speeches.
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: DixieBelle on May 07, 2008, 02:55:19 PM
let's just hope that someone in the McCain camp is putting together all of his soundbites.
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Rebel on May 07, 2008, 02:57:14 PM
let's just hope that someone in the McCain camp is putting together all of his soundbites.

I'm sure a certain talk show host is on the job.  :stirpot:
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 07, 2008, 03:00:04 PM
haven't they nailed BarackStar! on his Iraq stance? Didn't he first say immediate pull out and then recently say 18-24 months or something less severe? i have a hard time keeping up with the campaign rhetoric.
Maybe he's hired John $kerry to write his speeches.

you think he had given an irrelevant speech FOR the war, before the irrelevant speech AGAINST the war?
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: PatriotGame on May 07, 2008, 06:41:55 PM
Sounds like Barney's boyfriend left a toy or something up Barney's ass....again.

Somewhere deep in Massachusetts a string of gerbils have gone missing...
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Wretched Excess on May 07, 2008, 06:46:01 PM

obama deviated from the hive though.
Title: Re: Barney Frank Will Move to Defund War Under Democrat President
Post by: Lauri on May 07, 2008, 09:39:31 PM
i thought i just saw an article that said Congress just gave Bush his war funding thru the next year, into the next presidency even.

was i seeing things?

*goes out to look*