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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: 5412 on January 26, 2012, 07:45:06 PM

Title: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: 5412 on January 26, 2012, 07:45:06 PM
Hi,

While I realize WND is not considered to be the best source, this sounds like it was written by a person who was in the courtroom.  Excellent read and sure hope it is true.

I find the argument that BO was vetted by the citizens in the last election repulsive.  If the public was told he was not qualified due to citizenship, the results would have been much different, and Hillary would have probably been president.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/georgia-court-told-obama-slam-dunk-disqualified/

Hope everyone is doing well,

5412
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: FreeBorn on January 26, 2012, 08:18:52 PM
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Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: Chris_ on January 26, 2012, 08:22:30 PM
You know the guy has multiple Social Security numbers, right?

Why would someone "born" in Hawaii need multiple numbers?
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: FreeBorn on January 26, 2012, 08:29:17 PM
Last I heard there are somewhere on the order of 28 SSN's attributable to Soetoro.

The guy is about as Kosher as a Halal lunch.
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: Revolution on January 26, 2012, 11:33:54 PM
Somewhere down the line after his One (hope to Him it's not two...) term is up, many years after the fact, we'll find out the truth. Frankly, it won't matter by then. The damage will still be done, and it will STILL be under construction on the long, winding road to recovery.

What a mistake the majority of the country made.
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: Rugnuts on January 27, 2012, 10:08:03 AM
from the link, about obama:
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His father’s citizenship, they said, precludes him from serving as president, since the Founders required that officer to be a “natural-born citizen,” not just a “citizen.”

The term is not defined in the Constitution, but evidence introduced included a passage from a 1875 Supreme Court opinion that states:”The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

Weldon explained in his presentation that the 14th Amendment granting citizenship did not redefine Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, which includes the requirement for a president to be a “natural-born citizen.”

well mitt's father and grandfather was born mexico. do we disqualify him??
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: thundley4 on January 27, 2012, 07:02:04 PM
from the link, about obama:
well mitt's father and grandfather was born mexico. do we disqualify him??

Yes! 
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 27, 2012, 08:55:33 PM
from the link, about obama:
well mitt's father and grandfather was born mexico. do we disqualify him??

The Romney supporters have been making a big deal of that today, however they are pretty vague about the real facts.  Born in Mexico is one thing, but were they born Mexican citizens, or was his father's birth to two US citizens that chanced to be visiting family there when he arrived, or what?
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: Eupher on January 30, 2012, 11:19:19 AM
The Romney supporters have been making a big deal of that today, however they are pretty vague about the real facts.  Born in Mexico is one thing, but were they born Mexican citizens, or was his father's birth to two US citizens that chanced to be visiting family there when he arrived, or what?

It's a little murky since George Romney was born in a Mormon colony inside Mexico. His Wiki article says he was born of American parents. It's a little murky because it could be argued that George Romney's parents weren't visiting - they were living there.

There are Mormon colonies still in Canada and in Mexico. AFAIK, any children born there are considered American, assuming they were born of American parents.
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: Rugnuts on January 30, 2012, 11:28:33 AM
It's a little murky since George Romney was born in a Mormon colony inside Mexico. His Wiki article says he was born of American parents. It's a little murky because it could be argued that George Romney's parents weren't visiting - they were living there.

There are Mormon colonies still in Canada and in Mexico. AFAIK, any children born there are considered American, assuming they were born of American parents.
i read the Wiki for natural born citizen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause_of_the_U.S._Constitution). it discusses people running for office that brought this issue to light. Mccain, Goldwater a few others.

but about george MORMONney:
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George Romney (1907–1995), who ran for the Republican party presidential nomination in 1968, was born in Mexico to U.S. parents.[45][46] Romney's grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 with his three wives and children after the U.S. federal government outlawed polygamy. Romney's monogamous parents retained their U.S. citizenship and returned to the United States with him in 1912.[47] Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country's nationality laws had been restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics aimed against American settlers.

so mitt's grand parents retained us citizenship and george was never a mexican. so that makes him a natural born citizen according to Wiki.
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 30, 2012, 04:32:40 PM
i read the Wiki for natural born citizen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause_of_the_U.S._Constitution). it discusses people running for office that brought this issue to light. Mccain, Goldwater a few others.

but about george MORMONney:
so mitt's grand parents retained us citizenship and george was never a mexican. so that makes him a natural born citizen according to Wiki.

That makes sense, I did not think his US citizenship was in doubt, but thought he might be trying to fake some Hispanic cred, and that's exactly what it looks like now.
Title: Re: Georgia citizenship hearing
Post by: rich_t on January 30, 2012, 04:38:30 PM
That makes sense, I did not think his US citizenship was in doubt, but thought he might be trying to fake some Hispanic cred, and that's exactly what it looks like now.

H5