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How To Diffuse The "Class Warfare" Talking Point With Your Repug Friends......
The latest Repug talking point against President Obama and the Dems is that they are engaging in "class warfare". I have a Repug friend that tried to use that argument on me. Here's what I did.
I asked him which class he thinks he's in. Then used the fact that 400 individuals in this country have more money than the bottom 150 million people. He backed down immediately.
Use this thread to list other ways of diffusing this bogus Repug talking point.
Can you say bouncy? :bouncy:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002221510
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The problem with the global primitive's theory is that even in socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, the top 400 (or somesuch number) have more wealth (even if "state-owned," which is not exactly what it implies) than the bottom 99% combined.
Mao didn't live in a mud hut; Stalin didn't live in a thatched-roof cottage; Fidel doesn't live in a shack.
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I asked him which class he thinks he's in. Then used the fact that 400 individuals in this country have more money than the bottom 150 million people. He backed down immediately.
Congress?
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Bouncy.
Did I win anything?
I'd just the DUmbass to prove it.
They pull numbers out of their collective asses like so many intestinal parsites.
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I want my son to have a chance to be one of those 400...the problem is the DUmmies don't want anyone to even have the chance at great wealth. ...scratch great wealth and isert, "any wealth".
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The DUmmies want their "entitlements" in the form of a social worker dumping daily wheelbarrows full of Cheetos, prescription drugs and weed in the middle of front room in their subsidized duplex (e.g. the Las Vegas Leviathan). That's the ultimate goal of their "warfare:.
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Zero bongs, didn't start with so, no bushes, no conversion, no random applause.
Very poor fiction, an overall F. Didn't meet any of the above criteria.
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Star Member global1 (9,022 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
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How To Diffuse The "Class Warfare" Talking Point With Your Repug Friends......
The latest Repug talking point against President Obama and the Dems is that they are engaging in "class warfare". I have a Repug friend that tried to use that argument on me. Here's what I did.
I asked him which class he thinks he's in. Then used the fact that 400 individuals in this country have more money than the bottom 150 million people. He backed down immediately.
Use this thread to list other ways of diffusing this bogus Repug talking point.
After further review, what kind of DUmmy has a Republican friend, besides the SS Ibestupid.
This has to be a mole. They need to be more carefull.
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Then used the fact that 400 individuals in this country have more money than the bottom 150 million people.
Why is that a problem?
If those 400 were suddenly impoverished, DUmp democrats would still be deadbeats, with not even one penny more than they have today.
Productive people will always be productive. Democrats will always be deadbeats.
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I asked him which class he thinks he's in. Then used the fact that 400 individuals in this country have more money than the bottom 150 million people. He backed down immediately.
Your comment just proved your pretend repug friend's point.
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Your comment just proved your pretend repug friend's point.
Zing! And the winner... BEG.
blm (87,684 posts)
1. answer: OK...Who's been winning this 'war' and who has no chance in hell of winning this 'war'?
Who doesn't view it as a war at all?
If the wealthy are all the left claims them to be, they'll self destruct without anyone having to lift a finger. If the primitives weren't so stupid, they'd realize this has been true throughout history.
No doubt there's some wealthy who all they can think about is more, more, and more. Let them. I can't think of a better punishment for them that to let them dwell in their own miserable existance; always looking over their shoulder wondering who's trying to cheat them and/or outdo them.
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See what Buffett's secretary would have to earn to pay a larger percentage than her Boss: LINK (http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/01/25/warren-buffetts-secretary-likely-makes-between-200000-and-500000year/)
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Why the hell should I care what someone else makes. Only DUmmies think it's a big deal and that they have a right to something that doesn't belong to them. And they're just so damn stupid about it. As long as those filthy rich "400" spout the right words, opining that they don't pay more taxes they're just super! John Kerry is incredibly stingy, he's even parked his damn yacht in a different state to avoid taxes. None of them bother to ask why Warren Buffet's secretary pays more in taxes than he does and why he doesn't do anything to help her pay less. They don't question why someone who says he should pay more in taxes is fighting the IRS for an amount that's pretty much small change to him. They question none of the excesses of Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore's excessive use of energy in his larger-than-necessary house. They never question why some rich Hollywood has been shows up at OWS for a photo op and to be fawned over and then is never heard from again. They never ask why these rich liberals, if they really believe they should be paying more in taxes, just pay whatever percentage they think they should be paying even if there's no law forcing them to. It's not like the government is going to send back several million dollars. How stupid is that? They're so damned gullible. If this really did happen the friend probably walked away laughing and shaking his head.
Cindie
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I'm certain that the 'class warfare' statement by the primitive is true in socialist societies as well - HOWEVER, in the United States, it is possible for someone who isn't politically connected to become one of those 400 people.
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I asked him which class he thinks he's in. Then used the fact that 400 individuals in this country have more money than the bottom 150 million people. He backed down immediately.
Hmm, what about the other 179,999,600 people?
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Miskie!! :rotf: :lmao: at your new avatar.
And I agree with GOBUCKS, I have no problem with 400 rich people, or 400K or 4 million of them. I do not covet. I've been instructed not to.
I hate the class warfare bullshit. It's divided this country and made people hate each other. This is not what we're about. Is anybody else getting extremely rude, pointed questions about their own personal finances? Maybe it's a regional thing here, but I was brought up to NEVER ask questions about money, even to your own parents.
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Liberalism is the belief that the man who spent his money to build a factory, employ workers and provides goods wanted by consumers unfairly profits from his endeavor so his profits are to be stripped from him and given to people who built nothing, produced nothing while consuming everything...which coincidentally are the liberals who demand more welfare.
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The whole problem with the left is its penchant to divide people. Leftism only works if minorities--of whatever stripe--are pissed off and consider themselves victims.
Which, of course, goes against everything America was founded on.
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Someone actually tried a very similar line on me.
My response was "So what ?"
Their little witticism is only valid among their own class-warfare loving peers.
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He backed down immediately.
That's it?
He didn't stammer or sputter or turn red in the face or mumble something incoherent and excuse himself and stomp off with his tail between his legs?
Zero bongs.
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How To Diffuse The "Class Warfare" Talking Point
That's "Defuze," moran.
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Essentially, the DUmmie is telling his padwons or tadpoles or whatever to answer the charge of class warfare by saying, "Yes, that is exactly right. We are engaging in class warfare."
Why would anybody rebut the truth?
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The problem with the global primitive's theory is that even in socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, the top 400 (or somesuch number) have more wealth (even if "state-owned," which is not exactly what it implies) than the bottom 99% combined.
Mao didn't live in a mud hut; Stalin didn't live in a thatched-roof cottage; Fidel doesn't live in a shack.
Feast your eyes, DUmmies. Uncle Joe's summer home in the south of Russia. One must recall that Asshole Joe croaked in 1953 and this joint is very much posh even by western standards of the time.
http://euroheritage.net/stalinshomegallery.shtml
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The problem with the global primitive's theory is that even in socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, the top 400 (or somesuch number) have more wealth (even if "state-owned," which is not exactly what it implies) than the bottom 99% combined.
Mao didn't live in a mud hut; Stalin didn't live in a thatched-roof cottage; Fidel doesn't live in a shack.
Plus, classes do indeed still exist in Socialist nations, only they tend to be based less on how much wealth one has than on how well- connected one is to the government.
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See what Buffett's secretary would have to earn to pay a larger percentage than her Boss: LINK (http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/01/25/warren-buffetts-secretary-likely-makes-between-200000-and-500000year/)
LOL, they are arguing about his on Forbes... looks like a pissing match. NO YOU DON'T... (http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbarro/2012/01/25/no-you-dont-have-to-make-200000-to-have-a-higher-tax-rate-than-buffett/)
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The problem with the global primitive's theory is that even in socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, the top 400 (or somesuch number) have more wealth (even if "state-owned," which is not exactly what it implies) than the bottom 99% combined.
Mao didn't live in a mud hut; Stalin didn't live in a thatched-roof cottage; Fidel doesn't live in a shack.
Exactly--ask them Daniel Ortega's net worth, and watch their mouths flop open and closed like a carp.
(Hint to DUmmies--upwards of $400 million, in a nation where the average income is about $450/year--and the UN estimate is closer to $300/year.)
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The proper retort at this lame attempt to justify thievery is:
"Why do you think YOU deserve what I HAVE EARNED??"
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Exactly--ask them Daniel Ortega's net worth, and watch their mouths flop open and closed like a carp.
(Hint to DUmmies--upwards of $400 million, in a nation where the average income is about $450/year--and the UN estimate is closer to $300/year.)
Or that late Kim Jung Ill... They say he is(was) worth billions, while his people starve... And one time he took like $80,000,000 from the UN for food and bought like 20 special Mercedes... yeah great system DUmmies.
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I think if he asked me I would have said the class of '79.
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"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill
This man is spinning in his grave looking at what has become of Great Britain.
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"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill
This man is spinning in his grave looking at what has become of Great Britain.
At least his American half was conservative....wonder if that runs in your DNA?
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn/biography/genealogy/churchills-american-heritage
...and unlike Moochelle...he was proud of his american heritage.
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The whole problem with the left is its penchant to divide people. Leftism only works if minorities--of whatever stripe--are pissed off and consider themselves victims.
Which, of course, goes against everything America was founded on.
Thus the "99%" versus the "1%". If they were to become successful in redistributing that wealth, they'd move on the 90% vs. the 10%, and on to the 75% vs. the 25%, the 60% vs. the 40%, and so forth until everyone is at the same level of enforced mediocrity.