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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: TVDOC on January 23, 2012, 01:52:21 PM
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nyc-police-throw-navy-seal-into-psych-ward-for-claiming-hes-a-seal/
A Virginia man claimed to be a Navy SEAL to talk his way out of a gun possession arrest on Thursday, and the New York Police Department committed him to a psych ward thinking his claims of elite military status were the rantings of a lunatic.
Turns out the guy was in fact an elite Navy SEAL.
But as the New York Post put it, telling the NYPD “I’m in an elite military unit, you can’t arrest me,†doesn‘t help much when the city’s draconian gun laws are at issue.
Twenty-nine-year-old Shaun Day was on a leave from his duty as a Navy SEAL duty when cops nailed him for running a red light in Manhattan, New York on Thursday.
NYPD officers searched Day’s pickup truck and found a 9mm semiautomatic pistol and three magazines full of ammo.
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More at link......
doc
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Are you allowed to disclose publically that you are a seal?
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Are you allowed to disclose publically that you are a seal?
It might be against Navy regs to do so, but only because of personnel security. Since these guys are often on missions in faraway places, their families are at risk for those who would do them harm.
I'm about halfway done with reading Chris Kyle's book "American Sniper". He stated in an interview that it's "frowned upon" for even a former SEAL to write about his activities. But he did so when he was no longer active.
The photos in his book have the eyes of those who are still active blacked out to hinder their identity.
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I just remember when I was a teen going to Prince Mongo's when the Millington Navy base was still open being told by every guy that he was a SEAL :lmao:
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Are you allowed to disclose publically that you are a seal?
Sure. If they weren't, they wouldn't be given the trident to sew on their uniform.
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Are you allowed to disclose publically that you are a seal?
I don't know why people do that. If you served anywhere, doing anything and did so honorably why the need to embelish?
I've run across a fair few who claim to be paratroopers. Some are and some are not. It's pretty easy to figure out when you start talking to them. Kind of makes you want to put them on their 4th point of contact.
Roger that docstew?!
KC
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I don't know why people do that. If you served anywhere, doing anything and did so honorably why the need to embelish?
I've run across a fair few who claim to be paratroopers. Some are and some are not. It's pretty easy to figure out when you start talking to them. Kind of makes you want to put them on their 4th point of contact.
Roger that docstew?!
KC
For the record, I'm a proud, happy, operative LEG.
Never found it necessary or desirable to jump out of perfectly functioning aircraft. :fuelfire: :tongue:
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For the record, I'm a proud, happy, operative LEG.
Never found it necessary or desirable to jump out of perfectly functioning aircraft. :fuelfire: :tongue:
Ahhh, but you're forgetting that it is aircraft owned, operated and maintained by the Chair Force, therefore it is not perfectly good.
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When I worked for Best Buy in Omaha we had a real Navy Seal walk into the store and one of the guys filling in for the store security noticed he was armed with a 9mm. He approached the SEAL and asked him to leave and return with out the 9mm. The SEAL told him to go pound sand because they have orders to carry when not on base. Even though the guy on Security supposedly was a former Ranger , when he told me he was going to make him give up the weapon or leave i told him that would have probably been the last thing you would have done.
In the book " The Delta Force" by Charlie Beckwith he describes how they are issued cards with 1-800 numbers for people to call when they find one of his people armed with a weapon. I see no reason why that hasn't been done with other SF units but so far as I know Delta is the only one that did or does.
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For one thing, the SEAL in question let his weapon be seen. We were not to let people know we were carrying. You are supposed to blend in, not call attention to yourself.
Second, we were instructed than when confrointed by Law Enforcement, or in this case Security Forces, to go along with them, explain but to go along with the instructions given. Usually once you explained the LE got it and that was it. Sometimes you run intoa new guy on the job that didn't know what the deal was. Simply explaining the situation usually got the deal done.
Don't know te whole story, but a couple of things read funny in the story. Maybe the SEAL was in a pissy mood, or pissy at getting caught, or the SF was being a dick, but the one thing you don't want to do is draw attention to yourself, as happened in this story.
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oh, to clarify, not a SEAL, but have carried while in plain clothes while on duty.
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Ahhh, but you're forgetting that it is aircraft owned, operated and maintained by the Chair Force, therefore it is not perfectly good.
When asked why I joined the Navy I always told people I already knew how to swim but I was pretty sure I couldn't fly. :tongue:
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(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z19/thegodesofrock/evil_seal.jpg)
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(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z19/thegodesofrock/evil_seal.jpg)
:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
Priceless!
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Oceania base in Norfork, or Va Beach deciding on town lines.
Doing a rip off of the pipes that passed above the roads we saw every day the Seals in training jogging down the road,
Young, strong and headed for we did not know. None of these guys looked like what we see in the movies, they were not hulk or really big, just normal looking young men. We had some idea of their training, as much as any civilion knows, the stuff we did not know was perhaps 98% of what they had to do do to become Seals.
The Seals have compartments to their force, not all do the same thing. They train the same way but then branch off into different areas, some become Scuba Divers, others go into covert operations, and some jump out of a plane for some reason. Some need to speak a different language, others may be land bound at a desk for years.
This dude arrested was a strange one, he could have called his Chief or commanding officer when arrested he had no reason to divulge his Military speciality than a cook on a battle ship.
Just another man that needs to be put over the side, full of himself and a danger to his team mates.
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Vesta, ALL SEALS jump out of airplanes, scuba dive, and perform covert operations.
Damn! :banghead:
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With this story, I think the real key is that the man was pulled over after midnight, armed and without paperwork, and "incoherent rambling"... along with muttering that he was a Seal. Pretty justifiable to pick the person up.
The notion that Delta Force gives cards like that to their people sounds like a great idea.
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With this story, I think the real key is that the man was pulled over after midnight, armed and without paperwork, and "incoherent rambling"... along with muttering that he was a Seal. Pretty justifiable to pick the person up.
The notion that Delta Force gives cards like that to their people sounds like a great idea.
True Gratiot, we here in my area tend to idolise the Sub sailors for their intelligence and all the mental screening they go through. Darn but these men that have been given an education at the top of the mark, those that have to be able to keep their cool under conditions no other branch of the military has to, these guys are remarkable.
Then a couple years ago a boat came in for refit to our Yard. The comand had a van to wander the streets to haul in those too drunk or those that just needed a ride back to the base after a night on the town.
2 of the charged with picking up their crew got into big time trouble, some how they passed an old man, a former selectman from his town and decided to, of all things beat him up. Reason was they said he yelled something at them and then they darn near beat him to death.
How these perverts ever go aboard a Nuclear Sub, got past the screenings and the head shrinks is a mystery. Not just one but two sociopaths on the same boat. Boggles the mind.
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:thatsright:
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With this story, I think the real key is that the man was pulled over after midnight, armed and without paperwork, and "incoherent rambling"... along with muttering that he was a Seal. Pretty justifiable to pick the person up.
The notion that Delta Force gives cards like that to their people sounds like a great idea.
I guess what I take away from this is that liberal NYC would rather enforce their unconstitutional "Sullivan Laws" against private firearm possession, than give the benefit of a doubt to a service menber........
Pick up and detain, check credentials.....fine, but toss him in Bellevue??
doc
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When I fly in uniform with CAC ID I wonder aloud--only half jokingly--why I'm not issued a weapon. If anyone wanted trouble my presence is either a deterrant or the uniform makes me a priority target.
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When I fly in uniform with CAC ID I wonder aloud--only half jokingly--why I'm not issued a weapon. If anyone wanted trouble my presence is either a deterrant or the uniform makes me a priority target.
I don't remember if it was the Achille Lauro incednt in '84 that caused the change but it was around that time that they stopped issuing government passports to federal employees who worked overseas (IIRC they were red as opposed to blue) .
Also during the Carter years it was advised to travel in civilian clothes and regulations regarding wearing uniforms off base loosened considerably in the Navy.