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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dixierose on January 22, 2012, 06:06:37 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002203321
nadinbrzezinski
War in Syria may now be inevitable
According to a source in the U.S. government, one week ago, the Arab League Secretary-General, Nabil al-Arabi, told the Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, Jeffrey Feltman, that the Assad regime was breaking the terms of the Arab League initiative. If true, this quiet admission of failure preceded the high-profile resignation of Algerian League delegate Anwar Malek, who told Al Jazeera that his team had been unable to prevent the Assad regime’s “multiple crimes against humanity†and that the mission itself was a “farceâ€. More delegates are now said to be planning to quit.
When I asked a State Department spokesperson yesterday to confirm al-Arabi’s judgment, delivered in advance of the League report on Syria, he referred me to Hillary Clinton’s Wednesday interview with Qatari PM Jassim bin Jabor Al Thani, who said: “hat is now obvious today is that attacks are still ongoing and it seems that the Government of Syria is still not ready to change its course.†Quite simply, a consensus is forming in Washington and Arab capitals that the “last chance†effort to broker an end to the violence in Syria is an embarrassing shambles.
So where does that leave the Assad regime? As first reported by Foreign Policy magazine, the Obama administration has begun the preliminaries of “internationalising†the response to ongoing Syrian crisis. They are weighing the option of some kind of humanitarian military intervention, most likely led by Turkey. Repeated attempts to get a UN Security Council resolution condemning the regime have failed chiefly because Russia will not give up its ally in Damascus. Cyprus, which is the Kremlin's Mediterranean partner in money laundering and corruption, has just violated EU sanctions by allowing a Russian ship full of "35 to 60 tons of ammunition and explosives" to sail for Syria’s Russian-controlled port of Tartus.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/michaelweiss/100129733/war-in-syria-may-now-be-inevitable/
Ok CBS first last night, NPR this afternoon... I can smell a pattern when I see one... the chess board is set.
pinto
8. What a stretch of an assessment. The blogger here cites a Foreign Policy blog that states -
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"The options under consideration include establishing a humanitarian corridor or safe zone for civilians in Syria along the Turkish border, extending humanitarian aid to the Syrian rebels, providing medical aid to Syrian clinics, engaging more with the external and internal opposition, forming an international contact group, or appointing a special coordinator for working with the Syrian opposition (as was done in Libya), according to the two officials, both of whom are familiar with the discussions but not in attendance at the meetings."
How he spun this into "war is inevitable" is anyone's guess.
(aside) The blog noted in the OP is 10 days old, fwiw. It's a fluid situation, nothing is inevitable. Hyperbole doesn't benefit any realistic discussion of the situation.
(ed for clarity)
zappaman
9. Guess the OP accidentally made up their own ideas what the blog was about.
Yup, it happens some times.
Reporting isn't always easy.
:rofl:
nadinbrzezinski
10. I know exactly what he cited
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FYI, Foreign Policy is AIMED straight at the Foreign Service, and there is more... the US has threated to close the Embassy, Canada already did. everybody is screaming for citizens to get the hell out, and all that.
The article he cited, which is a LONG read, was published in December... FP has a few more fascinating articles there. I might direct you to Foreign Affairs too.
Oh and I forgot, the State Department travel Warning as of the 11 had a curious para about Credentialed diplomats kidnapped.
Oh and let me tell you go read the LONG policy paper on Syria from the Henry Jackson Society.
Oh and here is the original WAPO story on closing the embassy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-preparing-close-embassy-in-syria/2012/01/20/gIQAhOxREQ_story.html?tid=pm_pop
It is making it's way to third tier papers now.
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So.....the yenta getting ready to watch a chess match.
What if it turns out to be a football game instead?
<<already smells a pattern of 10-yard lines.
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jberryhill
14. Can you clarify "may now be inevitable"
Something which "may" occur is indefinite.
Something which is "inevitable" is certain to occur, as all conditions precedent have been met.
So, can you express "may now be inevitable" in terms of a stated probability within a given time frame, and at what point we consider the inevitability not to have occurred?
uhoh....does he realize who he's talking to... LOL
nadinbrzezinski
16. You can go ahead and email the Henry Jackson Society
since he is a lead writer for them.
http://www.henryjacksonsociety.org/
I am sure they want to hear from you
huh? :???:
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I had to nadin that.
The Henry Jackson Society is a non-partisan association. The society's goals include the promotion of "democratic geopolitics". The society is named after Henry M. Jackson, the late Democratic Senator from Washington State. Besides favoring labor unions, full employment, and welfare in domestic policy, Jackson was in foreign policy known for his opposition to communism and support of a strong military.
Inspired by Jackson, the society sponsors research on democratization and advocates the support of democracy movements internationally by democracies. The society supports the intelligent and proportional use of military power in specific situations: to end ethnic cleansing, to remove dictators after non-military methods have failed, and to prevent the breakdown of the rule of law. Its perspective has been described as Atlanticist. It supports the European Union and advocates a European Security and Defence Policy called "military interoperability".
Originating within the University of Cambridge, the organisation is now based in London. It is a registered charity in the United Kingdom.
The society was founded in March 2005 by academics and students at Cambridge (mostly affiliated with the Centre for International Studies), including Brendan Simms, Dr. Alan Mendoza, Marko Attila Hoare, Gideon Mailer, James Rogers and Matthew Jamison. It organises meetings with speakers in the House of Commons. The society advocates for an interventionist foreign-policy that promotes human rights and reduces suffering, by both non-military and military methods, when appropriate. .
In 2006, the society worked to raise the profile of the Ahwazi Arabs of Iran, who it claims are presently being oppressed by the Iranian regime. The society's Executive Director, Dr Alan Mendoza, appeared as a guest on Iran's Press TV several times and has taken payment from the channel.
The organisation is a registered charity, The Henry Jackson Society: Project for Democratic Geopolitics and fundraises via private donations and from grant-making organisations which support its work.
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I don't think the Henry Jackson Society is appropriate for the yenta, because I'm sure the yenta, like all the other primitives, fought hand-over-fist against George Bush's attempts to liberate the Afghanis and Iraqis.
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I swear, it's so fun and easy to get her going... :lmao:
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Nada's skin is microns thick.
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I swear, it's so fun and easy to get her going... :lmao:
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Now I know where the Mayans got the idea the world would end on 12/21/2012 - Nadin Abbott!!!!
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So war is inevitable. How many DUmmies will volunteer to be human shields?
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The only pattern I see is a DOTY winner acting like a humongous douchebag.