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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on January 21, 2012, 09:45:12 AM
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Sarah Ibarruri (17,056 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
A right wing extremist I know said this about Obama:
He promised to fix the economy, but has done nothing.
My response was that it was very clever of him to blame Obama for a disaster caused by Republican ideology and the implementation of that ideology. And that even to this date, Republicans are sabotaging Obama at every turn.
He immediately said, "Look, if you're going to lay blame on Republicans, let's just stop discussing this now."
Typical Repukes. They f*ck things up, then blame others.
She is going to give DOTY 2012 a real campaign
Newbie makes a bid for cred.
Populist_Prole (895 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. I had a similar conversation with a friend that went further right after Obama was elected
A friend of mine I've known a long time ( back when he was center left, and I was center-right ) His complaint was nearly the same as the one you spoke to mentioned. Also he likes to say "He hasn't DONE anything!" a lot. Then speaks of how he's sick of Republicans and Democrats arguing. I try to say why, just as you did, the reasons the arguments are taking place, and what's at stake, and who is trying to do what, or prevent, as the case applies. He then immediately snaps and gets combative "He's gonna take our guns away, just you wait and see!!" WTF???
Cosmocat (3,749 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
11. I have given up
trying to even understand, must less try to convince republicans otherwise.
I know SO many really great, really kind, decent, hard working and giving people who are republicans, and there just is something about how they are wired that they just have this visceral hatred of pretty much any democrat. It isn't just BO, it is any D.
I know people who hated Clinton with a vengence when he was president, who now don't think he is all that bad.
They just want Rs in office, bottom line.
:rotf:
no_hypocrisy (22,611 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. Romney more or less said the same thing during his acceptance speech in NH.
Said that the US lost its credit rating because of Obama.
Of course Os billions and billions of dollars in debt had nothing to do with it.
Sarah Ibarruri (17,056 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
24. Yep! That's what Repukes do. They destroy, then blame others. nt
The irony of this statement given the nature of the thread,blaming Republicans for everything escapes the dim wits feeble mind.
treestar (31,315 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
13. As a right wing extremist, he should be happy the government
"does nothing," since the magical free market will fix it all. The less Obama does the better should be his way of thinking.
It is typical of right wingers to want to stop all discussion once they are challenged.
Funny,we allow libs to sign up here and post...the few that do run away within a day.
The threads are here to prove it.
Populist_Prole (895 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. Oh yes, that's the ole' "thought terminating cliche" dynamic
They have a talking point ( or points ) and are able to spew them, but since they are low-info types or ideological hacks, cannot defend them, and get mad as hell if they're put in a position when they have to...Since there's nothing there. Referring to the neo-rightie friend of mine I was speaking about above, I'm aamazed at how poorly prepared he is to think things through. He's so easy to lick in a debate because he's so willingly uninformed. When challenged, his answer is, 9-times out of 10, "I'm just sayin'!". What's THAT mean? He must use that term a dozen times/day everytime he gets in a fix.
lindysalsagal (595 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
16. A close friend of mine does this: Never has an answer to my questions.
Makes assertions he can't back up, and then refuses to look at all the evidence that I can show him.
The hatred is in-penetrable. Logic, facts, reason, history, none of it matters. Any meaningless insult like socialist will do: Hate makes no sense unless you're a hater, and then it's the only thing that makes sense.
The door is open here,you won`t get near it though.
Sarah Ibarruri (17,056 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
28. I know! And you're right. I don't get it though...
Some of these people aren't idiots. I mean, they can read and write, have gone to college, etc. They KNOW. So why do they defend this bullshit?
Does it all go back to the studies done that show the right wing brain is terrified and needs authoritarians and control to feel comfy?
Not like the socialist/communist fantasies of the DUmp after a century of history showing what misery and failure they were and are.
proud patriot (99,176 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. Ask him How Obama creating 1 million more jobs than bush did is doing nothing?
ask him how republicans invoking the filibuster more times in 3 yrs than the combined total of of filibusters invoked between the years 1889 and 2009 in helping to create jobs?
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Sarah Ibarruri (17,056 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. Exactly! And I didn't get a chance to ask him because...
he refused to discuss the issue any further. The minute you introduce facts, right wingers go crazy.
"Facts" are not things made up out of the thin air or taken out of context.
AnotherMcIntosh (463 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
19. You say, "They f*ck things up, then blame others." Did the Repubs force him to appoint Geithner?
Or vote in favor of the $700 billion bailout before becoming President. Or disburse $350 billion in bailout funds after taking office?
Or appoint other Goldman Sachs personnel?
Is there anything that President Obama has done that is admittedly his fault?
Whoops,that killed it.
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She is going to give DOTY 2012 a real campaign
Newbie makes a bid for cred.
:rotf:
Of course Os billions and billions trillions and trillions of dollars in debt had nothing to do with it.
The irony of this statement given the nature of the thread,blaming Republicans for everything escapes the dim wits feeble mind.
Funny,we allow libs to sign up here and post...the few that do run away within a day.
The threads are here to prove it.
The door is open here,you won`t get near it though.
Not like the socialist/communist fantasies of the DUmp after a century of history showing what misery and failure they were and are.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
"Facts" are not things made up out of the thin air or taken out of context.
Whoops,that killed it.
FIFY
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Sarah has to be a mole.
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Sarah has to be a mole.
Stupid Sarah's a slattern.
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Sarah has to be a mole.
I don't know but some moles take the patterns of really DUlusional DUches and integrate them into their own character. ::)
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Populist_Prole (895 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. Oh yes, that's the ole' "thought terminating cliche" dynamic
They have a talking point ( or points ) and are able to spew them, but since they are low-info types or ideological hacks, cannot defend them, and get mad as hell if they're put in a position when they have to...Since there's nothing there. Referring to the neo-leftie friend of mine I was speaking about above, I'm aamazed at how poorly prepared he is to think things through. He's so easy to lick in a debate because he's so willingly uninformed. When challenged, his answer is, 9-times out of 10, "I'm just sayin'!". What's THAT mean? He must use that term a dozen times/day everytime he gets in a fix.
Changed it for accuracy.
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Does Sarah actually forget things started going downhill when the Democrats won in 06?
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She is going to give DOTY 2012 a real campaign
I don't know if I want to be her campaign manager, if she's really like this then I kind of don't like her, but there's still a part of me that thinks she's a mole so I adore her.
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Does Sarah actually forget things started going downhill when the Democrats won in 06?
Yeah, she does.
But all one has to do is consult the official statistics--statistics kept by the Magic One's administration now, remember--to see it happened about the time Bela and Harry took over, on January 3, 2007.
Almost exactly to the exact day, the good times screeched to a halt.
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Sarah has to be a mole.
Seriously, for some reason I get that feeling.
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I don't know but some moles take the patterns of really DUlusional DUches and integrate them into their own character. ::)
If you're going to do it, you have to adopt a persona and play the role to the hilt, or else just go completely low-profile and noncommittal without ever saying what you really think or pointing out their stupidity, no matter how glaring.
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Hey Sarah, it's cute that you still blame the repukes, when your party has been messing things up since 2007. Ever since Nancy took the gavel things have gotten worse every year.
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treestar
It is typical of right wingers to want to stop all discussion once they are challenged.
Making the false claim that this bad economy is a result of "Republican ideology and the implementation of that ideology, and that even to this date, Republicans are sabotaging Obama at every turn" is being challenged? Hardly.
But if I run across someone as stupid as you or the sarah imadimwit primitive, I personally see no reason to waste my time talking to fools. If you want to view that as stopping all discussion, feel free. I could care less as long as you shut up and go somewhere other than where I'm at.
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Sarah's a ho and a bit twisted. Who would have sex with someone they constantly say they hate ?
Sarah. Once you go Rethug you never go back. :rotf: She's a wicked nasty Lib chick.
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Hey DUmbasses, how was the economy prior to January of '07 when you Dims took over Congress? If you idiots can remember through your drug-induced haze, the '06 election was about the war, NOT the economy which was performing well. The economy started tanking in October-November of '07, 10 months after you liberal f'ers took control of Congress.
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Sarah doesn't post enough to be a serious contender. There's way too many more deserving DUmmies.
Besides. I still believe that most of what Sarah states to be true. The stupid is strong with her.
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Not like the socialist/communist fantasies of the DUmp after a century of history showing what misery and failure they were and are.
Please don't insult Socialists like me or Communists like BlindPig by calling the latte' liberals on the DUmp socialists or communists. They are far closer to your ideology than they are to ours.
That said, don't partisans of both corporate parties always blame the other party for everything that goes wrong? When was the last time a President accepted responsibility for his own screw-ups? LBJ when he decided not to run again? Richard Nixon when he resigned? Jimmy Carter after Desert One?
Nothing more recent comes to mind.
And that said, Sarah what's her face IS an idiot.
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They are far closer to your ideology than they are to ours.
You are out of your rabid-assed mind, Yosef.
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Please don't insult Socialists like me or Communists like BlindPig by calling the latte' liberals on the DUmp socialists or communists. They are far closer to your ideology than they are to ours.
That said, don't partisans of both corporate parties always blame the other party for everything that goes wrong? When was the last time a President accepted responsibility for his own screw-ups? LBJ when he decided not to run again? Richard Nixon when he resigned? Jimmy Carter after Desert One?
Nothing more recent comes to mind.
And that said, Sarah what's her face IS an idiot.
How in the hell are any of them even close to our ideology?
They want the government to take care of their every need, while bringing the productive down to their level, just like you socialists.
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Nutcase nadin would squash Imaboobi like stepping on a roach.
She could be a runnerup, though.
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How in the hell are any of them even close to our ideology?
They want the government to take care of their every need, while bringing the productive down to their level, just like you socialists.
You just proved my point. Thanks.
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You just proved my point. Thanks.
When the hell have we ever called for the government to take care of our needs, fool? Socialist morons like yourself are the ones calling for that shit.
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Please don't insult Socialists like me or Communists like BlindPig by calling the latte' liberals on the DUmp socialists or communists. They are far closer to your ideology than they are to ours.
That said, don't partisans of both corporate parties always blame the other party for everything that goes wrong? When was the last time a President accepted responsibility for his own screw-ups? LBJ when he decided not to run again? Richard Nixon when he resigned? Jimmy Carter after Desert One?
Nothing more recent comes to mind.
And that said, Sarah what's her face IS an idiot.
Spare me the :blah: :blah: :blah: utopian fantasy as laid out in some book that postulates a communal society of benevolent and happy people all working together for the common good.
Its ability to happen ends when the book is closed and human nature takes over.
The result of all your theories and dreams is exactly what was and is in the form of communism...own it if you are honest.
Look at your own fellow travelers,for all they (and likely you) talk about compassion and care what is the one and only thing that motivates them.
The word "Me",it is the start and the finish of everything to the left,"what do I get that I don`t have to earn by my labors?"
To even begin to institute such a fantasy requires a central authority,the god of the left.
Only at the point of a gun can it be enforced and a population enslaved.
The history of Lenin,Stalin,Khrushchev,Mao,Castro,Kim and Chavez was no accident,it was inevitable and how folks like you so deliberately refuse to admit it speaks to your own ignorance.
Last I checked you asked for some opinions to be shared and discussed http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,68503.0.html and we are waiting for a reply.
Do you have the ability or are you a post and run eunuch?
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Spare me the :blah: :blah: :blah: utopian fantasy as laid out in some book that postulates a communal society of benevolent and happy people all working together for the common good.
Its ability to happen ends when the book is closed and human nature takes over.
The result of all your theories and dreams is exactly what was and is in the form of communism...own it if you are honest.
Look at your own fellow travelers,for all they (and likely you) talk about compassion and care what is the one and only thing that motivates them.
The word "Me",it is the start and the finish of everything to the left,"what do I get that I don`t have to earn by my labors?"
To even begin to institute such a fantasy requires a central authority,the god of the left.
Only at the point of a gun can it be enforced and a population enslaved.
The history of Lenin,Stalin,Khrushchev,Mao,Castro,Kim and Chavez was no accident,it was inevitable and how folks like you so deliberately refuse to admit it speaks to your own ignorance.
Last I checked you asked for some opinions to be shared and discussed http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,68503.0.html and we are waiting for a reply.
Do you have the ability or are you a post and run eunuch?
H5
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Please don't insult Socialists like me or Communists like BlindPig by calling the latte' liberals on the DUmp socialists or communists. They are far closer to your ideology than they are to ours.
That said, don't partisans of both corporate parties always blame the other party for everything that goes wrong? When was the last time a President accepted responsibility for his own screw-ups? LBJ when he decided not to run again? Richard Nixon when he resigned? Jimmy Carter after Desert One?
Nothing more recent comes to mind.
And that said, Sarah what's her face IS an idiot.
Actually I think most of us here would consider ourselves conservative. "Progressives" don't always have a D behind their name. The last true conservative we had was Ronald Reagan. Every other president since then has grown government that has regulated more and more of our lives (light bulbs...they're going to force us to use light bulbs with mercury in them to save the planet...wait til those hit the landfills). I don't want to be Greece.
Cindie
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Actually I think most of us here would consider ourselves conservative. "Progressives" don't always have a D behind their name. The last true conservative we had was Ronald Reagan. Every other president since then has grown government that has regulated more and more of our lives (light bulbs...they're going to force us to use light bulbs with mercury in them to save the planet...wait til those hit the landfills). I don't want to be Greece.
Cindie
Truer words were never spoken. George the Elder comes to mind. He did more to ban guns than any democrat President ever did.
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You just proved my point. Thanks.
What are you talking about? How in the world did I prove your point that the DUmmies resemble our beliefs in the least?
they are for everything we are against, and for the exact same things that you want, more spending, higher taxes, and more government regulation. We want less spending, lower taxes, and minimum government regulations.
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When the hell have we ever called for the government to take care of our needs, fool? Socialist morons like yourself are the ones calling for that shit.
I'm half stoned on pain meds, (unlike the DUmmies I am not using them for fun), and he still doesn't make sense. :-)
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What are you talking about? How in the world did I prove your point that the DUmmies resemble our beliefs in the least?
they are for everything we are against, and for the exact same things that you want, more spending, higher taxes, and more government regulation. We want less spending, lower taxes, and minimum government regulations.
You are a capitalist. You believe that you have the right to accumulate as much capital, or profit, or wealth, as you can, yes? Most of the DUmmies, as you call them, think the same thing. They just want more window dressing in the form of regulations on it. I don't believe you have the right to accumulate as much wealth as you possibly can. I think you must be stopped from doing so, by whatever means necessary.
Does that answer your question?
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You are a capitalist. You believe that you have the right to accumulate as much capital, or profit, or wealth, as you can, yes? Most of the DUmmies, as you call them, think the same thing. They just want more window dressing in the form of regulations on it. I don't believe you have the right to accumulate as much wealth as you possibly can. I think you must be stopped from doing so, by whatever means necessary.
Does that answer your question?
Thank you,you have just proved my point about Lenin,Stalin,Khrushchev,Mao,Castro,Kim and Chavez being no accident that sidetracked the glorious state of communism.
It has to be brutally enforced as you just admitted because it cannot stand on its own.
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You are a capitalist. You believe that you have the right to accumulate as much capital, or profit, or wealth, as you can, yes? Most of the DUmmies, as you call them, think the same thing. They just want more window dressing in the form of regulations on it. I don't believe you have the right to accumulate as much wealth as you possibly can. I think you must be stopped from doing so, by whatever means necessary.
Does that answer your question?
Fortunately you're powerless to stop it.
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You are a capitalist. You believe that you have the right to accumulate as much capital, or profit, or wealth, as you can, yes?
Yes. Now tell me just what is the downside of having/accumulating/possessing/EARNING wealth? Who determines what is "enough wealth"? When did "profit" become a "four-letter" word in this country? How is Bill Gates having billions making my life, or anyone else's, poorer?
Most of the DUmmies, as you call them, think the same thing.
No, they don't. DUmmies think anyone who has more than they do needs to have it taken away, and given to them.
They just want more window dressing in the form of regulations on it. I don't believe you have the right to accumulate as much wealth as you possibly can. I think you must be stopped from doing so, by whatever means necessary.
Regulations are fine, UNTIL they become burdensome to the point of actually telling you HOW you should run your business. Why do you think manufacturing is moving "off-shore"? Oppressive regulations, DUH! It's like sand in the engine of the country's economy. As far as stopping my right to accumulate EARN as much wealth as I possibly can, go right ahead. Doing so will kill this economy quicker than Lord Zero could hope to.
Does that answer your question?
Yes. I questioned your intelligence. You answered as I expected you to.
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You are a capitalist. You believe that you have the right to accumulate as much capital, or profit, or wealth, as you can, yes? Most of the DUmmies, as you call them, think the same thing. They just want more window dressing in the form of regulations on it. I don't believe you have the right to accumulate as much wealth as you possibly can. I think you must be stopped from doing so, by whatever means necessary.
Does that answer your question?
Both you and the DUmmies want to restrict how much wealth or property that one can have. Then you want to take that wealth or property from those who have it so you can have more than you have now. In the end you and the DUmmies have the same goal, control over the people and as many freebies as you can get from those who are productive.
You can believe all day long that we don't have the right to accumulate wealth, the concept of freedom and individual liberty says otherwise and most Americans take those rights seriously, we will stop punks like you from stripping us of our individual liberty. You do not have the right to anyone's wealth.