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Title: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: franksolich on January 21, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002195918

Oh my.

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mfcorey1 (2,136 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

Republicans Are Afraid Of MSNBC

Here's an interesting statistic that isn't getting much attention. Of the 16 debates held thus far, the three major cable news networks (Fox, CNN, and MSNBC) carried eleven of them. Of those, the breakdown is five on Fox News, five on CNN, and only one on MSNBC.

Date Network Total Viewers Adults 25-54
Jan. 19 CNN 5,022,000 1,717,000
Jan. 16 Fox News 5,475,000 1,573,000
Dec. 15 Fox News 6,713,000 1,865,000
Nov. 22 CNN 3,599,000 1,041,000
Oct. 18 CNN 5,468,000 1,651,000
Sept. 22 Fox News 6,107,000 1,701,000
Sept. 12 CNN 3,600,000 1,100,000
Sept. 7 MSNBC 5,411,000 1,728,000
Aug. 11 Fox News 5,053,000 1,430,000
June 13 CNN 3,162,000 918,000
May 5 Fox News 3,258,000 854,000

What makes this interesting is that the single MSNBC debate drew more total viewers than four out of the five CNN debates. It beat all of the CNN debates in the key 25-54 year old demographic. In fact, in that demo, MSNBC beat every cable news debate except for one (Fox 12/15), despite its broadcast date back in September, before the campaign had begun in earnest.

With that kind of ratings performance you might think that the Republican Party would be anxious to get their candidates in front of such a large audience of engaged voters. You would be wrong. Republicans are not rushing to put their candidates on MSNBC and there can be only one reason. They are scared.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/20/1056860/-Republicans-Are-Afraid-Of-MSNBC?via=siderec

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Scuba (13,901 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. I disagree...

Republicans are afraid of the truth, and the media outlets they favor are bought-and-paid-for by the same masters as the Republicans themselves.

MSNBC distinguishes itself not by being a counter to Fox, or even a "liberal" network, but by having a few hours of truthiness on weeknight evenings.

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baldguy (26,552 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. And part of the reason for MSNBC's success is that it's an alternative to the stenographers of propaganda on Fox & CNN.

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HopeHoops (25,399 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. MSNBC is a threat to Republicans. FOX is not a threat do Democrats.

The main difference is who watches. The entire FOX audience consists of people who want to hear whatever they want to hear and nothing else (Republicans), well with the exception of the few left-wing people who monitor it so the rest of us don't have to. FOX won't change anyone's opinion, only reinforce the one they already have. MSBNC has a much wider demographic and actually CAN change people's opinions. CNN is just, well, CNN. Same shit, different day.

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tallahasseedem (3,830 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. MSNBC is a must for me now...

Especially Al, Ed and Rachel! I LOVE Al!

Okay, as many here know, franksolich doesn't do television.

I'm assuming "Ed" is that Schultz guy, and "Rachael"'s the mad cow, but who is "Al"?

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DCKit (14,950 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. They should be terra-fied.

Rachel Maddow could destroy the whole bunch of 'em with a few pointed questions.

It's one thing to spout campaign slogans, quite another to explain your insane reasoning.

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CanonRay (3,436 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. They might actually get asked a real question.

I dunno.

I recall a headline on Drudge saying that the media has been asking Republican presidential candidates hard questions while asking the Magic One easy questions.

Too bad I didn't bother saving the link, but the article was pretty good.

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justiceischeap (6,540 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. I'd guess that's why Rachel has such a hard time getting Repubs on her show

They're afraid of what she'll ask them but worse yet, their afraid of the follow-up questions. She doesn't let people get away with non-answers... even Dems.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: Odin's Hand on January 21, 2012, 09:40:34 AM
Yeah, I'm "afraid" of being shouted at with DNC talking points/Obama adoration...or I just choose not to be a masochist. Either way.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: jukin on January 21, 2012, 09:41:50 AM
Note to DUchebags, people do not laugh at what they are afraid of.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: docstew on January 21, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Or, alternate theory, the GOP wants to put their debates on new channels people actually watch.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: Ballygrl on January 21, 2012, 09:59:51 AM
Afraid? seriously? :lmao:

Why would Republicans want to be on such a low rated network?
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: Ballygrl on January 21, 2012, 10:02:21 AM
And you'd think MSNBC would get a clue, it was Republicans who tuned in to watch that fool of a network, now if they'd change their programming? they might see higher ratings.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: franksolich on January 21, 2012, 10:04:07 AM

I'm still curious as to who "Al" is; I know it's not Al Franken, but that's all I know.

Is "Al" that new Turkish guy?

This, from "franksolich meets Muhammad Ali," should explain my ignorance:

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Being deaf puts one outside the mainstream of American popular culture (perhaps no great loss; I dunno).  Celebrities on television, radio, the movie screen, concerts, plays, and the like, tend to mean nothing to us, because most of us do not bother.  Despite all the color and glitz of visual display, without hearing, it is just a chaotic mess of the loud and the flashy.

Not bothering with television of course spares me the insipidity of having to listen to the sports commentator Herb Kirkstreit and others in his profession; to this day, I am never sure which one is Roseanne O'Donnell or Rosie Barr, for another sort of example; they are just two raucous nasty fat women who look very much alike to me, nothing more.

Such holds true in the print media too; in print, I was always able to discern between the late Ann Richards, once governor of Texas, and the late Molly Ivins, once a prominent newspaper columnist, but merely seeing images or pictures of them, they both looked similar to me; miserable wretched old bitches.

The only way I am, generally, aware of the existence and appearance of a celebrity is after they show up in the history books.  This most of the time also means they are already dead by the time I know of them.

Who is who, and who is hot, at the moment has never pushed any of my buttons, rowed my boat, or rocked my chair.

In addition to being outside the mainstream of popular American culture, there is that natural courtesy to be found in most of those born and raised in Nebraska; leave other people alone unless there is a good reason to bother them.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: JakeStyle on January 21, 2012, 10:07:02 AM

The Reverend Al Sharpton has a 1 hour show on MSNBC, if you can believe it.  I've never watched but I have read that it can be unintentionally hilarious.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: Ballygrl on January 21, 2012, 10:47:18 AM
I had no idea who Al was either but Jake answered it.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: JakeStyle on January 21, 2012, 10:48:11 AM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqQe4KOrvsM[/youtube]
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: franksolich on January 21, 2012, 10:49:05 AM
The Reverend Al Sharpton has a 1 hour show on MSNBC, if you can believe it.  I've never watched but I have read that it can be unintentionally hilarious.

Thanks, sir; I was really scrambling the brains trying to figure out who it is.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 21, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
justiceischeap (6,540 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. I'd guess that's why Rachel has such a hard time getting Repubs on her show

They're afraid of what she'll ask them but worse yet, their afraid of the follow-up questions. She doesn't let people get away with non-answers... even Dems.

NOPE. It's because she smells like rotten tuna fish.
Title: Re: primitives discuss Republicans being afraid of MSNBC
Post by: Carl on January 21, 2012, 12:09:29 PM
Gosh,look what a nadin search turns up.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/09/15/obama-to-hit-five-sunday-news-shows-but-not-foxs/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/12/white-house-escalates-war-words-fox-news/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500486_162-2870925-500486.html