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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 19, 2012, 09:00:56 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/111932
Oh my.
More job-hunting woes in this wonderful 0bamaconomy.
UrbScotty (21,061 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
When employers extend a deadline
Scene: Two nonprofit organizations, late summer 2011 into winter 2012.
Organization #1: Progressive advocacy organization
Mid- to late August: I learned of an excellent opportunity for which I think I'd be a good fit.
A couple days later: A friend of mine who works there spoke with me to discuss the job, the organization, etc., and pledged to work behind-the-scenes to get me an interview. This individual is well-known as one of the leading young progressive activists in the state, and when he promised to try to get an interview, I believe he meant it (unlike with many people). He also noted that the funding for the position is there, and in his words, "there is a lot of work to be done."
August 31: I applied.
September 7: Deadline.
Ensuing weeks: I made a small number of contacts - a couple with the organization itself, one with the aforementioned connection.
Mid-October: I checked, and the posting was still up on the website. Now says, "Deadline extended to November 1 or until ideal candidate is identified."
January 2, 2012: Position still posted on website. It still says "Deadline extended to November 1 or until ideal candidate is identified." It has been 124 days since I applied, 117 days since the original deadline, 62 days since the second deadline. Not that I'm counting. Again, as I was told a few months ago, the funding is there, and "there is a lot of work to be done."
Organization #2: Nonprofit advocacy organization. I have interned with another organization that has similar goals as this group, and I have done similar work to what I would be doing here.
Mid-November: I learned from another friend, a local staff member for this organization, about a great opportunity with this organization.
November 18: "Priority deadline;" applications submitted by that day were to be given given priority. I happened to apply that day.
November 21: Another friend of mine - a board member with this organization who knows the hiring manager - said she would recommend me for this position.
November 23: Original "hard deadline."
November 30: I contacted them to follow up, but did not receive an answer.
December 19: I received an email saying that applications were being reviewed and I would hear back soon.
December 20: A posting for the exact same position was posted on a nonprofit job board that I frequently check (but the position did not appear until 12/20; again, I had heard about it from a friend the previous month).
December 23: New "priority deadline." This time, however, there is no second deadline; they just say they will accept applications until the position is filled.
January 2, 2012: Nothing yet. 45 days since I applied.
Questions:
1. What could be going on (i.e. why are they extending these deadlines)?
2. What the hell am I doing wrong? (Okay, that's probably not something you all could answer - but I keep thinking that there's something in what I am doing that needs to change.)
3. Any tips for following up with them at this point?
Downwinder (5,091 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. Could it be funding?
UrbScotty (21,061 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. I highly doubt it.
Both positions are still listed on their respective websites. I suspect that if the funding wasn't there, they would've either (a) not posted the positions in the first place, or (b) taken down the postings.
With Org. #1, my connection said the funding was there. So unless they lost said funding...
With Org. #2, they just recently posted it on a job board.
Scuba (13,813 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. It may have nothing to do with you. I was interested in a job in 1996...
... but went elsewhere when they dragged their feet. They finally filled the position in 2003.
It was all internal turmoil holding things up.
rbnyc (16,012 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. It's amazing what's going on inside some of these organizations.
rbnyc (16,012 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. Possibility...
It's possible that the position is being funded by a grant and the grant promises to find someone with very specific qualifications that your friends may not realize are so paramount. When you review the qualifications in the job description, do you meet them all?
Or, the ultimate decision maker may have an ideal candidate in mind and just feels there's something missing from your resume, even if the job description doesn't make that clear. Can you get any specific feedback from your internal advocates.
I recently applied for a position and had a friend with a great reputation in the field close to the executive director. I have 10 years of progressive experience with great metrics, but I was amazed that I couldn't even get an interview. It turns out that they were looking for someone who was very heavy in one area that had not been made clear in the job description, and I was just light in that area.
It's hard not to take it personally.
I don't think you're doing anything wrong. Try to get feedback from your friends.
Probably the primitive would just be better off getting a job at the local factory--steady income, great retirement benefits--rather than trying to get a fancy job.
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January 2, 2012: Position still posted on website. It still says "Deadline extended to November 1 or until ideal candidate is identified." It has been 124 days since I applied, 117 days since the original deadline, 62 days since the second deadline. Not that I'm counting. Again, as I was told a few months ago, the funding is there, and "there is a lot of work to be done."
That means they looked at your weakass resume, decided you were a moron that wasn't qualified for the job, and extended it until they could find someone with a marketable skill that offered what they needed.
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Advocacy groups, huh?
I guess it's easier to bitch about homelessness then actually going out to work as a carpenter, learn enough business sense to become a GC and then go on to start a company that hires people with good wages providing needed commodities and providing valuable training.
Or maybe I'm just too bitchy.
That means they looked at your weakass resume, decided you were a moron that wasn't qualified for the job, and extended it until they could find someone with a marketable skill that offered what they needed.
Progressive advocacy groups, no less. He fails at failing.
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Seems like he is determined to work for a non-profit/liberal group and avoid being a part of the capitalist system...
Dude if this much time has elapsed since you applied and you haven't heard anything then they probably aren't interested in your skill set.
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...your skill set.
Explain this part to me.
liberal + skill set = ???
It's just not registering with me.
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Wow, you must be a loser. Nepotism didn't even help you.
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Seems like he is determined to work for a non-profit/liberal group and avoid being a part of the capitalist system...
Dude if this much time has elapsed since you applied and you haven't heard anything then they probably aren't interested in your skill set.
I wonder if the capitalist hating libs realize that with out capitalism their non-profit advocacy groups wouldn't exist. Those rich bastards that fund those groups wouldn't be rich so no funds for the dogooders to feel better about themselves.
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I wonder if the capitalist hating libs realize that with out capitalism their non-profit advocacy groups wouldn't exist. Those rich bastards that fund those groups wouldn't be rich so no funds for the dogooders to feel better about themselves.
No they don't realize it. To them they are magically funded by the poor people or the liberal causes they purport to help. All those money trees raining down into their favorite liberal causes don't you know. :thatsright: :-)
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Wow, you must be a loser. Nepotism didn't even help you.
BEG for the WIN. It might surprise you DUmbasses to hear this, but "I post a lot on DU" is not bona fide experience, even where progressive groups are concerned. As a matter of fact, I will wager that progressive groups have pretty sensitive noses for bullshit resumes from liberals. For example, "built a website to organize progressive housecats" is not real experience.
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UrbScotty (21,061 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. What could be going on (i.e. why are they extending these deadlines)?
Well, Scotty, it sounds like you aren't anyone's "Ideal candidate," and aren't too quick on the uptake to boot.
:rotf:
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rbnyc (16,012 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. It's amazing what's going on inside some of these organizations.
Hmmmm... You mean these left wing communist liberal organizations that get their money from government grants which gets their money from the taxes of the rich?
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ZERO BONG. DUmmy looking, much less attempting, to get a job.
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I don't have anything extra to add to all of you....I just thought this was a funny thread. :lmao: And it just has to be a "progressive, nonprofit" outfit. Nothing else will do. Get to work asshole. Any work at all.
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I have 10 years of progressive experience with great metrics,....does that mean she's been camping in city parks for 10 years?...you know, OWS.
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Explain this part to me.
liberal + skill set = ???
It's just not registering with me.
Rolling a joint does take a certain skill, as does melting down some heroin, filling a syringe and injecting it. I'm not saying these are useful skills but they are acquired skills.
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I have 10 years of progressive experience with great metrics = Knows all the ways to scam SSDI, welfare, Section 8, and can get out to the mailbox in under 7 seconds at the first of the month.
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I have 10 years of progressive experience with great metrics = Knows all the ways to scam SSDI, welfare, Section 8, and can get out to the mailbox in under 7 seconds at the first of the month.
Well, everyone except the Las Vegas Leviathan can get there that quick. He's too busy sleeping to be bothered with things like mail. :whistling: :-)
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All of these primitives jobless in the miraculous 'Oconomy' ? How is this possible ?
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The word "metrics" is as reliable a moonbat indicator as the word "planet".
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All of these primitives jobless in the miraculous 'Oconomy' ? How is this possible ?
Apparently the "Messiah" forgot they existed after the votes were tallied, but the DUmbasses will still pull the lever for him again.
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I've heard starting a hunger strike is the way to get a call back. Just ask H20 man.
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I've heard starting a hunger strike is the way to get a call back. Just ask H20 man.
Yeah, a hunger strike looks great on a resume.
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Yeah, a hunger strike looks great on a resume.
About as good as 'progressive metrics'. :rotf:
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Progressive advocacy organization
Nonprofit advocacy organization
UrbScotty is probably not going to get a job with either of these groups, but maybe they'll keep him in mind as a client. He needs help. Typical patronizing DUmmy--thinks he's part of the elite that was born to defend the downtrodden when he, most likely, can't take care of himself.