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Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:18 PM
adigal (3,881 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
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My friend has no heat
I live in upstate NY. It is going to be about minus 10 degrees tonight. My retired friend, living on Social Security, has sold on ebay for the past few year to make extra money, but with the economy, it sometimes cost more than she made, so she stopped. She grows almost all of her own food, cuts her own firewood, is very self-sufficient, but she got heating help from HEAP, a program that helps with heating costs. Her wood allotment was cut from 3 cords last year to one cord this year, and by the time she found out, it was cold and difficult to get into the woods for more wood. Mind you, she is 67 years old.
She has no money for kerosene, not enough wood to keep her house over 50 degrees. She needs kerosene for that. I gave her some wood we had cut, and hope that will hold her over for now. I'm so glad that people like Mitt Romney are keeping their tax cuts, while the poor got their heating help cut by 2/3. BTW, she has to stay there to keep her plants alive, so she can sell some in the spring, and make a few dollars.
God bless America.
Can't you guys come up with a new bouncy outline?
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Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:29 PM
Star Member crim son (26,134 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. I am sickened and angry at the same time.
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Bless your friend and to Hell (if there was one) with the likes of Romney.
So, you're gonna blame Romney when the tall tale took place in New York, a state controlled by the democrat party?
I say blame the tree huggers for not allowing more trees to be cut down.
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Sun Jan 15, 2012, 05:48 AM
IamK (564 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
26. Romney is not the president....
The Che avatar doesn't hide your hunger for grubs.
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Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:42 PM
Shankapotomus (109 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. How far upstate is she?
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I'm in NJ and don't have a car. Otherwise, I'd bring her some firewood.
Here is the Craigslist results for free firewood in the Catskills area:
http://catskills.craigslist.org/search/zip?query=Free+fire+wood&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=
It wouldn't make a difference if she were only a mile away. You're still useless.
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Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:44 PM
Star Member ejpoeta (8,120 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. where in wny is she? we burn wood in an outdoor wood burner.
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maybe there is some way we could help.
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Sat Jan 14, 2012, 09:44 PM
adigal (3,881 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
16. She is in the Adirondacks
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We just found her a cord of free wood. Thank you all so much. I am amazed at how much kindness there is here on this site. If this were on free republic, they would have told her to get off her 67 year old butt right now, and go cut more wood. Thank you.
Of coarse you did. If you had to give out a actual location, they would find out your story is made up and that you're a lying POS.
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Sat Jan 14, 2012, 09:27 PM
adigal (3,881 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. You are all the nicest people!!!
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I will tell her that more money was allocated for HEAP this past week. I got her some wood, and my huaband just told me that our local outreach has some wood outside, so I will tell her about that, too. I offered for her, her dog and two cats to come to my house, but she does all organic gardening and is hoping to do a coop next summer and sell organic veggies, so she has a lot of plants from last year still in the house (she will do cuttings, etc.) so she doesn't want to leave, as she will lose all of her plants. We have so extra kerosene in our fuel tank, and I will see if we can get some out to get to her this weekend, also.
Thank you all for your offers of help. I didn't expect that. I really was just venting at how screwed up we are as a country when presidential candidates who are billionaires say the poor are just envious of the wealthy. Not that they are struggling to live or anything.
Peace.
Mission accomplished.
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If you live in upstate NY like I do you do not head into the winter unprepared unless your an ass. Of course relying on others for your needs qualifies you as an ass!
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What a minute -- I thought they were "very concerned" about global warming in the Northeast. Not so much anymore?
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Response to adigal (Original post)
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 09:27 PM
adigal (3,881 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. You are all the nicest people!!!
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I will tell her that more money was allocated for HEAP this past week. I got her some wood, and my huaband just told me that our local outreach has some wood outside, so I will tell her about that, too. I offered for her, her dog and two cats to come to my house, but she does all organic gardening and is hoping to do a coop next summer and sell organic veggies, so she has a lot of plants from last year still in the house (she will do cuttings, etc.) so she doesn't want to leave, as she will lose all of her plants. We have so extra kerosene in our fuel tank, and I will see if we can get some out to get to her this weekend, also.
Thank you all for your offers of help. I didn't expect that. I really was just venting at how screwed up we are as a country when presidential candidates who are billionaires say the poor are just envious of the wealthy. Not that they are struggling to live or anything.
Peace.
Found some free money from the government but neither you or your "huaband" would get off your lazy asses to either go pick up some or go into the woods and cut any for her.
In other words charity for a liberal begins with taking money from someone else and not a damn thing more.
Compassionate my ass,compassion is when you sacrifice your time and goods to help out someone in need not sit around bitching that someone else has more then you think they should.
Useless idiots.
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"...but she does all organic gardening ......sold on ebay for the past few year to make extra money."
Well, she should turn off the damn "grow lights" then. Those things eat up the electricity and the cops can find "grow operations" by checking electric bills. She may soon be staying in a warm place with 3 hots and a cot.
Just trying to be helpful here. :-)
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Sounds like grandma has a lot of expensive hobbies that that money would be better spent on saving for kerosene. Just a thought.
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Of course, if "Teh Wun" bothered to do any domestic drilling, heating oil wouldn't be $3.60/gallon and kerosene wouldn't be upwards of $4/gallon.
Bite my ass, DUmmies.
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I don't see any of the Presidential candidates on this list of New York state officials and Senators. Surely there must be some mistake. The DUmp couldn't possibly be blaming the candidates for something they dislike about a government service that the candidates have absolutely no control over, right? That would be ludicrous...like me blaming Governor Cuomo for something about Kansas State services that I dislike.
:lmao:
Governor Cuomo
Comptroller DiNapoli
Attorney General Schneiderman
Adams, Eric
Addabbo, Joseph P., Jr
Alesi, James S.
Avella, Tony
Ball, Greg
Bonacic, John J.
Breslin, Neil D.
Carlucci, David
DeFrancisco, John A.
Diaz, Ruben
Dilan, Martin Malavé
Duane, Thomas
Espaillat, Adriano
Farley, Hugh T.
Flanagan, John J.
Fuschillo, Charles J., Jr.
Gallivan, Patrick M.
Gianaris, Michael
Golden, Martin J.
Griffo, Joseph A.
Grisanti, Mark
Hannon, Kemp
Hassell-Thompson, Ruth
Huntley, Shirley L.
Johnson, Owen H.
Kennedy, Timothy
Klein, Jeffrey D.
Krueger, Liz
Lanza, Andrew J
Larkin, William J., Jr.
LaValle, Kenneth P.
Libous, Tom
Little, Elizabeth
Marcellino, Carl L
Martins, Jack M.
Maziarz, George D.
McDonald, Roy J.
Montgomery, Velmanette
Nozzolio, Michael F.
O'Mara, Thomas F.
Oppenheimer, Suzi
Parker, Kevin S.
Peralta, José
Perkins, Bill
Ranzenhofer, Michael H.
Ritchie, Patty
Rivera, Gustavo
Robach, Joseph E.
Saland, Stephen M.
Sampson, John L.
Savino, Diane J.
Serrano, Jose M.
Seward, James L.
Skelos, Dean G.
Smith, Malcolm A.
Squadron, Daniel L
Stavisky, Toby Ann
Stewart-Cousins, Andrea
Valesky, David J.
Young, Catharine
Zeldin, Lee M.
Peter J. Abbate, Jr.
Thomas J. Abinanti
George Amedore
Carmen E. Arroyo
Jeffrion L. Aubry
William A. Barclay
Inez D. Barron
Michael Benedetto
Ken Blankenbush
William F. Boyland, Jr.
Philip Boyle
Edward C. Braunstein
James F. Brennan
Anthony J. Brindisi
Harry B. Bronson
Alec Brook-Krasny
Daniel J. Burling
Marc W. Butler
Kevin A. Cahill
Nancy Calhoun
Karim Camara
Ron Canestrari
Robert J. Castelli
Nelson L. Castro
John D. Ceretto
Barbara M. Clark
William Colton
James D. Conte
Vivian E. Cook
Jane L. Corwin
Marcos A. Crespo
Clifford W. Crouch
Brian Curran
Michael Cusick
Steven Cymbrowitz
Michael G. DenDekker
Jeffrey Dinowitz
Janet L. Duprey
Steve Englebright
Rafael L. Espinal, Jr.
Herman D. Farrell, Jr.
Gary D. Finch
Michael J. Fitzpatrick
Christopher S. Friend
Dennis H. Gabryszak
Sandy Galef
David F. Gantt
Vanessa L. Gibson
Joe Giglio
Deborah J. Glick
Phillip Goldfeder
Andy Goodell
Richard N. Gottfried
Al Graf
Aileen M. Gunther
Sean T. Hanna
Stephen Hawley
Carl E. Heastie
Andrew Hevesi
Dov Hikind
Earlene Hooper
Rhoda Jacobs
Ellen Jaffee
Hakeem Jeffries
Mark Johns
Tony Jordan
Steve Katz
Brian Kavanagh
Micah Kellner
Brian M. Kolb
Rory I. Lancman
George S. Latimer
Charles D. Lavine
Joseph R. Lentol
Barbara Lifton
Guillermo Linares
Peter D. Lopez
Vito J. Lopez
Dan Losquadro
Donna Lupardo
William Magee
William B. Magnarelli
Alan Maisel
Nicole Malliotakis
Margaret M. Markey
David G. McDonough
John J. McEneny
Tom McKevitt
Steven F. McLaughlin
Grace Meng
Donald R. Miller
Joel M. Miller
Michael Miller
Joan L. Millman
Michael Montesano
Joseph D. Morelle
Francisco P. Moya
Dean Murray
Catherine Nolan
Daniel J. O'Donnell
Bob Oaks
Félix Ortiz
Philip A. Palmesano
Amy Paulin
Crystal D. Peoples-Stokes
N. Nick Perry
J. Gary Pretlow
Dan Quart
Edward P. Ra
Annie Rabbitt
Andrew P. Raia
Phil Ramos
Bill Reilich
Bob Reilly
José Rivera
Naomi Rivera
Peter M. Rivera
Samuel D. Roberts
Annette Robinson
Robert J. Rodriguez
Linda B. Rosenthal
Addie J. Russell
Sean Ryan
Joseph S. Saladino
Teresa R. Sayward
William Scarborough
Michelle Schimel
Robin Schimminger
Sheldon Silver
Michael Simanowitz
Aravella Simotas
Kevin Smardz
Eric A. Stevenson
Robert K. Sweeney
James Tedisco
Claudia Tenney
Fred W. Thiele, Jr.
Matthew Titone
Michele R. Titus
Lou Tobacco
Raymond Walter
Helene E. Weinstein
Harvey Weisenberg
David I. Weprin
Keith L.T. Wright
Kenneth Zebrowski
Schumer, Charles E
Gillibrand, Kirsten E.
New York State Congressional Delegation
Ackerman, Gary, New York, 5th
Hanna, Richard, New York, 24th
Bishop, Timothy, New York, 1st
Clarke, Yvette D., New York, 11th
Crowley, Joseph, New York, 7th
Engel, Eliot, New York, 17th
Hayworth, Nan, New York, 19th
Higgins, Brian, New York, 27th
Hinchey, Maurice, New York, 22nd
Israel, Steve, New York, 2nd
King, Pete, New York, 3rd
Vacant, New York, 26th
Lowey, Nita, New York, 18th
Buerkle, Ann Marie, New York, 25th
Maloney, Carolyn, New York, 14th
Reed, Tom, New York, 29th
McCarthy, Carolyn, New York, 4th
Owens, Bill, New York, 23rd
Grimm, Michael, New York 13th
Meeks, Gregory W., New York, 6th
Gibson, Chris, New York, 20th
Nadler, Jerrold, New York, 8th
Rangel, Charles B., New York, 15th
Serrano, José E., New York, 16th
Slaughter, Louise, New York, 28th
Tonko, Paul D., New York, 21st
Towns, Edolphus, New York, 10th
Velázquez, Nydia M.,, New York, 12th
Vacant, New York, 9th
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I don't see any of the Presidential candidates on this list of New York state officials and Senators. Surely there must be some mistake.
The DUmp couldn't possibly be blaming the candidates for something they dislike about a government service that the candidates have absolutely no control over, right? That would be ludicrous...like me blaming Governor Cuomo for something about Kansas State services that I dislike.
Oh but madam, surely you're familiar with grouchy old Don, the NNNLHOI primitive, and the burdened primitive, the now-gone-away Tyler Durden?
They've both been on record many times as blaming Ronald Reagan for things that happened when Jimmy Carter was president, and Reagan a private citizen.
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We just found her a cord of free wood. Thank you all so much. I am amazed at how much kindness there is here on this site. If this were on free republic, they would have told her to get off her 67 year old butt right now, and go cut more wood. Thank you.
You fool, actually we wouldn't of posted about it on a message board we would be out there doing something about it or digging into our own pockets to help. A friend of mine did a fundraiser around Christmas, nothing spectacular, just basically did a matching donation thing for a food bank, he's not rich, but he managed to collect tons of food and raised over $2,000 to purchase gift cards to grocery stores to give to those who need them because of the Obamaeconomy.
ETA: He's a staunch Republican!
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I don't see any of the Presidential candidates on this list of New York state officials and Senators. Surely there must be some mistake. The DUmp couldn't possibly be blaming the candidates for something they dislike about a government service that the candidates have absolutely no control over, right? That would be ludicrous...like me blaming Governor Cuomo for something about Kansas State services that I dislike.
:lmao:
Governor Cuomo
Comptroller DiNapoli
Attorney General Schneiderman
Adams, Eric
Addabbo, Joseph P., Jr
Alesi, James S.
Avella, Tony
Ball, Greg
Bonacic, John J.
Breslin, Neil D.
Carlucci, David
DeFrancisco, John A.
Diaz, Ruben
Dilan, Martin Malavé
Duane, Thomas
Espaillat, Adriano
Farley, Hugh T.
Flanagan, John J.
Fuschillo, Charles J., Jr.
Gallivan, Patrick M.
Gianaris, Michael
Golden, Martin J.
Griffo, Joseph A.
Grisanti, Mark
Hannon, Kemp
Hassell-Thompson, Ruth
Huntley, Shirley L.
Johnson, Owen H.
Kennedy, Timothy
Klein, Jeffrey D.
Krueger, Liz
Lanza, Andrew J
Larkin, William J., Jr.
LaValle, Kenneth P.
Libous, Tom
Little, Elizabeth
Marcellino, Carl L
Martins, Jack M.
Maziarz, George D.
McDonald, Roy J.
Montgomery, Velmanette
Nozzolio, Michael F.
O'Mara, Thomas F.
Oppenheimer, Suzi
Parker, Kevin S.
Peralta, José
Perkins, Bill
Ranzenhofer, Michael H.
Ritchie, Patty
Rivera, Gustavo
Robach, Joseph E.
Saland, Stephen M.
Sampson, John L.
Savino, Diane J.
Serrano, Jose M.
Seward, James L.
Skelos, Dean G.
Smith, Malcolm A.
Squadron, Daniel L
Stavisky, Toby Ann
Stewart-Cousins, Andrea
Valesky, David J.
Young, Catharine
Zeldin, Lee M.
Peter J. Abbate, Jr.
Thomas J. Abinanti
George Amedore
Carmen E. Arroyo
Jeffrion L. Aubry
William A. Barclay
Inez D. Barron
Michael Benedetto
Ken Blankenbush
William F. Boyland, Jr.
Philip Boyle
Edward C. Braunstein
James F. Brennan
Anthony J. Brindisi
Harry B. Bronson
Alec Brook-Krasny
Daniel J. Burling
Marc W. Butler
Kevin A. Cahill
Nancy Calhoun
Karim Camara
Ron Canestrari
Robert J. Castelli
Nelson L. Castro
John D. Ceretto
Barbara M. Clark
William Colton
James D. Conte
Vivian E. Cook
Jane L. Corwin
Marcos A. Crespo
Clifford W. Crouch
Brian Curran
Michael Cusick
Steven Cymbrowitz
Michael G. DenDekker
Jeffrey Dinowitz
Janet L. Duprey
Steve Englebright
Rafael L. Espinal, Jr.
Herman D. Farrell, Jr.
Gary D. Finch
Michael J. Fitzpatrick
Christopher S. Friend
Dennis H. Gabryszak
Sandy Galef
David F. Gantt
Vanessa L. Gibson
Joe Giglio
Deborah J. Glick
Phillip Goldfeder
Andy Goodell
Richard N. Gottfried
Al Graf
Aileen M. Gunther
Sean T. Hanna
Stephen Hawley
Carl E. Heastie
Andrew Hevesi
Dov Hikind
Earlene Hooper
Rhoda Jacobs
Ellen Jaffee
Hakeem Jeffries
Mark Johns
Tony Jordan
Steve Katz
Brian Kavanagh
Micah Kellner
Brian M. Kolb
Rory I. Lancman
George S. Latimer
Charles D. Lavine
Joseph R. Lentol
Barbara Lifton
Guillermo Linares
Peter D. Lopez
Vito J. Lopez
Dan Losquadro
Donna Lupardo
William Magee
William B. Magnarelli
Alan Maisel
Nicole Malliotakis
Margaret M. Markey
David G. McDonough
John J. McEneny
Tom McKevitt
Steven F. McLaughlin
Grace Meng
Donald R. Miller
Joel M. Miller
Michael Miller
Joan L. Millman
Michael Montesano
Joseph D. Morelle
Francisco P. Moya
Dean Murray
Catherine Nolan
Daniel J. O'Donnell
Bob Oaks
Félix Ortiz
Philip A. Palmesano
Amy Paulin
Crystal D. Peoples-Stokes
N. Nick Perry
J. Gary Pretlow
Dan Quart
Edward P. Ra
Annie Rabbitt
Andrew P. Raia
Phil Ramos
Bill Reilich
Bob Reilly
José Rivera
Naomi Rivera
Peter M. Rivera
Samuel D. Roberts
Annette Robinson
Robert J. Rodriguez
Linda B. Rosenthal
Addie J. Russell
Sean Ryan
Joseph S. Saladino
Teresa R. Sayward
William Scarborough
Michelle Schimel
Robin Schimminger
Sheldon Silver
Michael Simanowitz
Aravella Simotas
Kevin Smardz
Eric A. Stevenson
Robert K. Sweeney
James Tedisco
Claudia Tenney
Fred W. Thiele, Jr.
Matthew Titone
Michele R. Titus
Lou Tobacco
Raymond Walter
Helene E. Weinstein
Harvey Weisenberg
David I. Weprin
Keith L.T. Wright
Kenneth Zebrowski
Schumer, Charles E
Gillibrand, Kirsten E.
New York State Congressional Delegation
Ackerman, Gary, New York, 5th
Hanna, Richard, New York, 24th
Bishop, Timothy, New York, 1st
Clarke, Yvette D., New York, 11th
Crowley, Joseph, New York, 7th
Engel, Eliot, New York, 17th
Hayworth, Nan, New York, 19th
Higgins, Brian, New York, 27th
Hinchey, Maurice, New York, 22nd
Israel, Steve, New York, 2nd
King, Pete, New York, 3rd
Vacant, New York, 26th
Lowey, Nita, New York, 18th
Buerkle, Ann Marie, New York, 25th
Maloney, Carolyn, New York, 14th
Reed, Tom, New York, 29th
McCarthy, Carolyn, New York, 4th
Owens, Bill, New York, 23rd
Grimm, Michael, New York 13th
Meeks, Gregory W., New York, 6th
Gibson, Chris, New York, 20th
Nadler, Jerrold, New York, 8th
Rangel, Charles B., New York, 15th
Serrano, José E., New York, 16th
Slaughter, Louise, New York, 28th
Tonko, Paul D., New York, 21st
Towns, Edolphus, New York, 10th
Velázquez, Nydia M.,, New York, 12th
Vacant, New York, 9th
Damn! What a list. If they would all just send her a wooden #2 lead pencil, she could heat her house for a year. ...or...just fire one of them and give her the salary and she could move to Florida where she would probably be of as much service to the state of NY as anyone on that list.
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Well Obama did say we can't keep our thermostats at 70 anymore, so maybe she should just grab a sweater a la Carter the 1st.
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How come none of them are comparing the times now to when Bush was in office? and how come none of them are blaming Obama?
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Well Obama did say we can't keep our thermostats at 70 anymore, so maybe she should just grab a sweater a la Carter the 1st.
More of his "Do as I say" shit. Wasn't it reported a couple of years ago that he "likes it hot" and keeps the Whitehouse themostat on 84 degrees. You can do that when someone else is paying the bill.
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More of his "Do as I say" shit. Wasn't it reported a couple of years ago that he "likes it hot" and keeps the Whitehouse themostat on 84 degrees. You can do that when someone else is paying the bill.
It is good to be King.
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I wonder if the DUmbasses know there was no HEAP program until it was signed into law by President Reagan.
It's amazing that so many deadbeat democrats survived all those pre-global-warming winters.
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It's all about the free with them.
The ant, the grasshopper. Then there's the DUmmy. :loser:
The woman had at least 6 months to get it together. No, she waits until she nearly freezes to death.
Critical thinker right there. :whatever:
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The thread at DU has bugged me, and it really points out a fundamental difference between me (us?) and them.
There was a need. People offered help and solutions. The offers were rejected when Big Gov came through. To them that was a hallelujah moment. To me it was unnecessary once they had wood for her.
And, really, what was she doing not being prepared? 67 is not too old for many people to prepare for winter by cutting wood.
Gads they are flipping helpless.
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The DUmmies are just practicing "It's Romney's fault..." in case he wins the primary and then eventually the election. It's kind of cute. No blame for Obama, who has come right out and said that electricity rates would 'necessarily skyrocket'. Trust me, Obama kept his little promise with that statement.
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Auntie Bush (12,381 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
29. Someone should make this situation known to Obama, Local TV stations,
and national TV stations. Send it to Fox...bet $5000 (lol) they won't mention it...if they did they'd say, "Take a shower and get to work chopping... the exercise is good for you and will warm you up."
Then they would probably say under there breath...Maybe she'll have a heart attack and then we'd have one less person on welfare.
All kidding aside...that the true essence of Rethug thinking.
I hate to break this to you Auntie Bush ( ha ha, funny name, NOT ) but Obama doesn't give a damn about you or any other DUmmy. He wants your pennies period.
Some lefty news station may care. I know here they love broke down DUmmy stories that portray you idiots as victims. Only thing is the comment section usually exposes what a DUmmy the person looking for sympathy really is. It's funny. That's right, it's HILARIOUS !
One correction there hon, we don't wish people dead. We have class, something you people know nothing about. We help those that need help, not those that demand it.
Smoke on that for a while.
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Auntie Bush (12,381 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
29. Someone should make this situation known to Obama, Local TV stations,
At one time, it use to be call Keef. Then it became call Madcow. Now it's call obama. In DUmbdom hierarchy, that's as high as they can go. They've reached the end of the grid.
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At one time, it use to be call Keef. Then it became call Madcow. Now it's call obama. In DUmbdom hierarchy, that's as high as they can go. They've reached the end of the grid.
Nothing bad would ever happen if only the jug-eared muslim knew.
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Well Obama did say we can't keep our thermostats at 70 anymore, so maybe she should just grab a sweater a la Carter the 1st.
All he has to do now is get on tee-vee and tell us that. Oh, and something about "malaise". I hear that did wonders for Carter's reelection chances.
OTOH, I'm curious as to what temperature the White House is heated to in winter, and cooled to in summer. August in DC can be, to put it mildly, a cast-iron bitch.
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Auntie Bush (12,381 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
29. Someone should make this situation known to Obama, Local TV stations
Seriously? do you think the media would do anything that would reflect badly on Obama? they're his cheerleaders, heck when they graduate with their Journalism Degrees they get kneepads along with their Diploma's.
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/ObamaLibMediaCheerleaders-1.jpg)
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All he has to do now is get on tee-vee and tell us that. Oh, and something about "malaise". I hear that did wonders for Carter's reelection chances.
OTOH, I'm curious as to what temperature the White House is heated to in winter, and cooled to in summer. August in DC can be, to put it mildly, a cast-iron bitch.
Personally I would like to see the return of the misery index. Funny you never hear of that from media these days.
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The Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) is a United States federal social services program first established in 1981
That awful, evil, Ronald Reagan!
29. Someone should make this situation known to Obama
:lmao: :mental: DUmmies, you know he doesn't give a shit. Unless this is a mole, poking fun at you.
I'm not sure I believe this story. Anybody 67 years old, living in the Adirondacks, knows what's what. They're not a braindead teenager, or a scatterbrained flake. Nature can kill you there, and nobody gets caught short in heating fuel. Not unless they want a Darwin award.
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That awful, evil, Ronald Reagan!
:lmao: :mental: DUmmies, you know he doesn't give a shit. Unless this is a mole, poking fun at you.
I'm not sure I believe this story. Anybody 67 years old, living in the Adirondacks, knows what's what. They're not a braindead teenager, or a scatterbrained flake. Nature can kill you there, and nobody gets caught short in heating fuel. Not unless they want a Darwin award.
Err, Karin, I have seen people from spring to fall to go into the sides of the roads looking for dead wood trees, the States incourage this, the scavengers clean out all the dead wood that would be a problem in a forest fire,. Problem comes when a company with a contract with the state runs the people off and leave the dead wood laying around.
67 is a good ripe old age to be chopping wood, good exersize and a a death penility to those with heart conditions.
We up here in NH. have thousands of miles of roads that go into the deep woods, the dead wood is abundent and free for for those that will take the time to wander into the woods and haul it out. Chopping dead wood is something a 12 year old can do, it is the the fresh new downed trees that need a lot of strength.
All ways a problem for the people that scavenege for a living, or just take advantage of the stuff no one else wants.
Then there is the problem of the number of people that heat with wood. Not but a few in the citys , and with the new built homes in the country, and NO fire place------All electric or Propain .
We have an abundence of wood for heating up here, Problem is we need a place to burn it. A fire place that will not suck out all the air that is hot in the home. Then the safty that the stove is far away from the walls to not burn the house down.
Takes money to install a wood heating system, sure the wood is free but one has to prepare a proper stystem to insure safty and get the heat to go into the home and not out the chimmy.
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Reading the original bouncy, the first thought was maybe this woman at 67 is too old to cut wood (although my dad is the same age and does over 100 cords a year to keep the woods cleaned out and make a little spending cash.) But when looking again, I noticed the author specifically pointed out that she "cuts her own firewood." This changes things, it's not that she can't cut wood, it's that she doesn't want to, she wants wood cut, split, and stacked for her, free of charge. I also live in NY, there is no reason she can't get free wood, she just doesn't want to work at it. Some examples:
1. I know a couple guys who heat with wood, that go around to logging skid yards and offer to cut up the butt ends and scabs the loggers don't want. But this must be too much work, finding the loggers, talking to them, then cutting the wood and hauling it home.
2. One of my brothers owns a sawmill, and while he sells hardwood slabs, he gives away the softwood slabs simply to keep them from piling up on him. It's not the best wood, but it's free, just have to haul it away and cut it up.
3. Talk to tree services. They are always looking for places to dump wood. Now this can be a crap shoot at times, you never know what you might get, but building up a relationship with a tree service can help you pick and choose what gets dumped. I've got several dozen people I dump hardwood for (just dumped fifteen 10 wheeler loads of oak and maple for a guy last week), totally free of charge. But once again, you have to work at cutting and splitting it.
4. If you are really desperate, go around to large production companies and haul away their broken pallets. Once again, not great wood, but it burns. But that takes work too.
I guess the point is, there is no reason why you have to be cold in NY if you heat with wood and are willing to work at it. Free wood is fairly abundant.
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Reading the original bouncy, the first thought was maybe this woman at 67 is too old to cut wood (although my dad is the same age and does over 100 cords a year to keep the woods cleaned out and make a little spending cash.) But when looking again, I noticed the author specifically pointed out that she "cuts her own firewood." This changes things, it's not that she can't cut wood, it's that she doesn't want to, she wants wood cut, split, and stacked for her, free of charge. I also live in NY, there is no reason she can't get free wood, she just doesn't want to work at it. Some examples:
1. I know a couple guys who heat with wood, that go around to logging skid yards and offer to cut up the butt ends and scabs the loggers don't want. But this must be too much work, finding the loggers, talking to them, then cutting the wood and hauling it home.
2. One of my brothers owns a sawmill, and while he sells hardwood slabs, he gives away the softwood slabs simply to keep them from piling up on him. It's not the best wood, but it's free, just have to haul it away and cut it up.
3. Talk to tree services. They are always looking for places to dump wood. Now this can be a crap shoot at times, you never know what you might get, but building up a relationship with a tree service can help you pick and choose what gets dumped. I've got several dozen people I dump hardwood for (just dumped fifteen 10 wheeler loads of oak and maple for a guy last week), totally free of charge. But once again, you have to work at cutting and splitting it.
4. If you are really desperate, go around to large production companies and haul away their broken pallets. Once again, not great wood, but it burns. But that takes work too.
I guess the point is, there is no reason why you have to be cold in NY if you heat with wood and are willing to work at it. Free wood is fairly abundant.
You really need to be careful with the highlighted above, the pallet wood is usually very dry wood making it very easy to over fire your wood stove. Use in moderation.
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You really need to be careful with the highlighted above, the pallet wood is usually very dry wood making it very easy to over fire your wood stove. Use in moderation.
Also watch out for chemical saturation. They could emit dangerous fumes.
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Cleaning a fireplace at her age isn't easy either.
If someone had thought about maybe purchasing two $40 a piece creamic tower heaters, it would have been better. I have two. I use them in my big bedroom and in my bathroom when it gets real cold. It never gets hot, controls the temp, costs pennies to use.
If you close off the rooms you don't use, those heaters will actually heat two rooms per heater. They work really well.
We have a fireplace. My husband buys wood down the street from an older gentleman for $100 a cord. We found him in the newspaper. He'll load your truck or trailer if you want. The fireplace is nice to have but you still need to watch it and clean it. Lugging in wood isn't ideal even to me but it is better than freezing to death.
Maybe next year the DUmmies will pop for a few heaters instead. :whatever:
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You really need to be careful with the highlighted above, the pallet wood is usually very dry wood making it very easy to over fire your wood stove. Use in moderation.
That and a lot of them are treated with FR chemicals so even if they do burn they'll give off tons of not-so-nice fumes.
Yeah, short of cutting my own trees down (and far too many of them are pine, which makes them virtually worthless) and splitting them, it's buying wood.
Unfortunately, wood is usually much pricier than in other areas. Typical price for seasoned wood is upwards of $250/cord. If you're lucky they'll deliver and stack it for you. The 1/3 cord we got was $90, and we hauled it/stacked it. But it beats the hell out of the $5-6 per bundle the tourists buy outside Cumberland Farms on their way "upta camp" in the mountains.
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That and a lot of them are treated with FR chemicals so even if they do burn they'll give off tons of not-so-nice fumes.
Yeah, short of cutting my own trees down (and far too many of them are pine, which makes them virtually worthless) and splitting them, it's buying wood.
Unfortunately, wood is usually much pricier than in other areas. Typical price for seasoned wood is upwards of $250/cord. If you're lucky they'll deliver and stack it for you. The 1/3 cord we got was $90, and we hauled it/stacked it. But it beats the hell out of the $5-6 per bundle the tourists buy outside Cumberland Farms on their way "upta camp" in the mountains.
What about the seniors that have no place to burn wood, it comes down to having to chose between the electric and the gas or oil to keep warm at 32 degrees outside and food to live.
Do we dare suggest the seniors give up their home, their pets, the life style they worked all their lives for to force more assisted living conditions on them??? A double or triple room in a nursing home and they have to leave behind all that is important to them. We thank them for their service to our country, it is just hard luck that there are few relatives left to help you, most friends have died or are in ill health to help you or visit.
Tough cookies people, you are 67, have worked for over 50 years, paid taxes, raised and put kids through college, some that may have given their lives for our country, whats the complaint, your savings are gone, due to bad investments and the stock market, now you cry out you cannot afford medication, heat and food, taxes and a life time of work is gone.------Your problem-----You know life, it sucks. DAMNATION on those that dare to live a long fruitfully life. This whole mind set makes me SICK and wondering where we go next.
----So Liberals expect people who built and suffered for this country at their old age to give to them what their grandparents worked for??? WTF, uncle AL has no family but has a coin collection that he could give to me if I can find a way to get him in a Nursing home. Nothing really wrong with uncle Al but he has to take heart medication and insists on chopping wood for heat. For his own good I believe we have to claim him incompetent, put him away some where he is SAFE and take over without his knowledge of consent every darn piece of his life, the things he worked so hard to acquire.
Most seniors that can no longer drive, need to lug about an oxygen tank cannot be expected to be dragging a tank of O2 outside to cut wood.
This thread has a very close to liberal bent to it, expecting a 67 year old to chop her wood when for all we know she is in a wheel chair.
The seniors that need help after a life time of helping others is my concern, the help for the adults who have lived on the government teet for all their lives, unless disabled as children become a second thought.
Conservative though is to first help those that helped us and our country, everyone falls on hard times, the older generation has bailed their kids out of all kinds of messes, but when it comes time to find the family is bleed out by the family and can no longer help the kids, the liberal kids and family think nothing or rushing in and taking what they wish from their grandparents and other family members.
So what is the age the liberals put at when a family member is helped, 67 years or 77 ? Insane, long as they have something they want, the freaking Liberals will have grand pa responsible for for chopping wood at 90.
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Vesta, consider this an intervention.
It's okay not to post. Really.
And if I'm not capable of getting around, caring for myself, etc., I'm either going into an assisted living facility/nursing home, or taking one long last walk into the woods. The hardest thing about growing old is admitting when you're no longer capable of caring for yourself. Yeah, it sucks, but life is full of sucky shit.
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And if you're in a wheelchair and essentially helpless, you have no business being in a cabin in the Adirondacks. They won't even allow cell towers there. At this point in life and disability, one gets to town, and arranges for appropriate facilities.
The alternative is to become dinner for the wildlife that live there.