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The Bar => Introductions & Subsequent Welcomes => Topic started by: vaelapapke on January 12, 2012, 08:08:46 PM
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Hi... My name is Vaela, I'm 20 years old. I am extremely liberal but I have recently been wanting to have a really good, deep conversation with someone who actually DISAGREES with me. All of my friends are liberal, too, and that's fine but it gets old always agreeing with everyone.... I would really love to have an intelligent discussion with a conservative who has an open mind like mine, so we can maybe learn more about each other as people...you know?
I'm so sorry if I'm intruding here. I have been searching all night for a place to find someone who will intelligently debate with me! I have resorted to conservative forums! I promise I'm not trying to stir up any trouble, I just am craving a good debate/conversation with someone with differing opinions!
I am an atheist, I am pansexual (basically a lesbian but I'm engaged to a man), and I support President Obama.
I love my country and I love all of its citizens even if we disagree, and I just want to make 2012 a better year where we are less divided. I want to hear your side of the story personally and I want you to hear mine... I just really, REALLY would be so appreciative if you would give me a chance...
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Thank you, DixieBelle
Please give me a chance! I thank you in advance!
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:clap: Admitting that you have a problem is the first step on the path to recovery. :)
Welcome aboard !!! :cheersmate:
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Welcome! :cheersmate:
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Welcome to CC.
Feel free to enter into discussions here and I would discourage you from trying to get people to email or IM you outside the board,it sounds like phishing.
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:clap: Admitting that you have a problem is the first step on the path to recovery. :)
:lmao:
H5!
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Okay. Sorry!
I just really want a debate...I've been on omegle for hours trying to find someone to talk to me. It's really depressing! I hate being surrounded by people who agree with me 24/7. I want to have an open-minded discussion, you know? So frustrating! I'm hoping I can find mutual respect here!
I will admit, that quip about admitting I have a problem was pretty funny. Kudos.
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There are several forums here to discuss things so give a look see at things posted and have at it.
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If you want a place to start, I too am an atheist, and my wife is a born-again Southern Baptist - has been for 32 years now. But I'm also a very pro-life conservative. Because of Obama's past and current associations and his performance in office, I find him very frightening.
I suggest starting a couple of threads on topics of interest to you.
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That's really cool that an atheist and a Baptist can be married. I love that kind of thing. I just want to make the country less divided.
I'm really searching for a real-time debate, I'm not having much success, it's really quite sad. I don't want to just talk to people who will reiterate my own opinions. Blah! Omegle is just full of people hitting on me. Facebook is full of liberal friends of mine., I just want to chat with a conservative! I want to open my mind a little bit! So frustrating!
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Welcome! You'll need a thick skin and an open mind. Don't be surprised if your opinions change.
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I'm sick of being in a society where it's "I HATE LIBS" or "I HATE CONSERVATIVES" No. I don't hate anyone! We just disagree, and if we could all just have calm discussions...I think we'd be much happier.
I don't know if my opinions will change, but I hope to be more tolerant of conservatives in my daily life by understanding them better through debate. That is my main intention. I want to come to a place where we are all equal and respectful.
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I'm sick of being in a society where it's "I HATE LIBS" or "I HATE CONSERVATIVES" No. I don't hate anyone! We just disagree, and if we could all just have calm discussions...I think we'd be much happier.
I don't know if my opinions will change, but I hope to be more tolerant of conservatives in my daily life by understanding them better through debate. That is my main intention. I want to come to a place where we are all equal and respectful.
What exactly is it that you want to debate?
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welcome
if we could all just have calm discussions...I think we'd be much happier.
i agree ijust saw a poll that said america is 2 to 1 conservative. if everyone could just settle down and have these "calm discussions" i'm willing to bet it would be 99 to 1. so it'd be ironic "We are the true 99%"
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I think you might find what your looking for here if your for real. If not there's lots of rope here also. Welcome.
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I'm sick of being in a society where it's "I HATE LIBS" or "I HATE CONSERVATIVES" No. I don't hate anyone! We just disagree, and if we could all just have calm discussions...I think we'd be much happier.
I don't know if my opinions will change, but I hope to be more tolerant of conservatives in my daily life by understanding them better through debate. That is my main intention. I want to come to a place where we are all equal and respectful.
We don't hate much of anyone here...but we do make fun of some liberals and the huge gaps we notice in their logic. Maybe you should look around a little, jump into a few threads with interesting subjects. Just don't "poop and swoop," stick around in a thread and defend your position logically, factually, and fairly politely. :-)
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Welcome and why in the hell are you marrying a man when you are attracted to women? is it so you can get insurance benefits?
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Welcome and why in the hell are you marrying a man when you are attracted to women? is it so you can get insurance benefits?
Organic turkey baster......and hates men so she wants to screw up his life.
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Welcome and why in the hell are you marrying a man when you are attracted to women? is it so you can get insurance benefits?
:lol:
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I'm sick of being in a society where it's "I HATE LIBS" or "I HATE CONSERVATIVES" No. I don't hate anyone! We just disagree, and if we could all just have calm discussions...I think we'd be much happier.
I don't know if my opinions will change, but I hope to be more tolerant of conservatives in my daily life by understanding them better through debate. That is my main intention. I want to come to a place where we are all equal and respectful.
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so." -Ronaldus Maximus
I'd suggest you start off by viewing his 1964 speech, "A Time For Choosing." Look at what he said nearly 50 years ago, and how much has come true today, if not made worse.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY[/youtube]
From that speech:
"You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man's age-old dream--the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order -- or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. Regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would sacrifice freedom for security have embarked on this downward path. Plutarch warned, 'The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits.'"
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Vaela,
If you are really looking for a discussion then you are not an extreme liberal.
Extreme liberals see conservatives as evil, and seek to deny all speech but their own. An extreme lib is all for denying rights guaranteed in the constitution like freedom pof speech, press, assembly, religion, and the right to own guns. They tend to propose rule by an elite few, not by the people. Extreme liberals are one party rule to the point of toltalitarianism.
If that is not you, then you are not extreme.
I am concerned that you are posting your personal information online. Use the edit key and REMOVE your email. This is an open board and can be read by anyone, members or not. Offering your phone online to strangers is foolishness and invites trouble.
Open a thread and start a test debate. If you are as open and polite as you are now, then you will have your discussion. make sense?
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I am concerned that you are posting your personal information online. Use the edit key and REMOVE your email. This is an open board and can be read by anyone, members or not. Offering your phone online to strangers is foolishness and invites trouble.
Word. You will be surprised at all the nasty emails you get from your own party members.
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I have edited the original post to remove personal information. It is against board rules to post that kind of stuff.
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OK, so everyone's been nice. Do you want to start a conversation?
go ahead, type something.
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OK, so everyone's been nice. Do you want to start a conversation?
go ahead, type something.
Maybe she didn't expect to get these kind of replies. After all, on a board like DU, she'd already be banned. Now she doesn't know what to do, there isn't much to take back with her to say, "Look how nasty these Cavers are..." :lmao:
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Maybe she didn't expect to get these kind of replies. After all, on a board like DU, she'd already be banned. Now she doesn't know what to do, there isn't much to take back with her to say, "Look how nasty these Cavers are..." :lmao:
:lmao: You know, her plan was foiled I bet! :lmao:
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You're not "pansexual", you like to cum a lot and don't care how. Hopefully you're at least hawt.
You're not "liberal" because you support a system that must, by definition, monopolize all political and economic power. Just wait until they reveal their corruption/incompetence and then try voting them out of power and see just how "liberal" they really are.
You only support Obama because you're too young and stupid to know what you really want. Hopefully, you'll either grow out of it or die trying.
Oh, sorry, almost forgot my manners...
"Good morning."
O-)
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You're not "pansexual", you like to cum a lot and don't care how. Hopefully you're at least hawt.
You're not "liberal" because you support a system that must, by definition, monopolize all political and economic power. Just wait until they reveal their corruption/incompetence and then try voting them out of power and see just how "liberal" they really are.
You only support Obama because you're too young and stupid to know what you really want. Hopefully, you'll either grow out of it or die trying.
Oh, sorry, almost forgot my manners...
"Good morning."
O-)
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Only 1 gray hare.
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:lmao: You know, her plan was foiled I bet! :lmao:
Oh dear, soiled again. :rofl:
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You're not "pansexual", you like to cum a lot and don't care how. Hopefully you're at least hawt.
You're not "liberal" because you support a system that must, by definition, monopolize all political and economic power. Just wait until they reveal their corruption/incompetence and then try voting them out of power and see just how "liberal" they really are.
You only support Obama because you're too young and stupid to know what you really want. Hopefully, you'll either grow out of it or die trying.
Oh, sorry, almost forgot my manners...
"Good morning."
O-)
:lmao: Why is "pansexual" even a type of sex...er "screwedupness?" Sounds like Bi-sexual to me? What's wrong with the latter term? There's so many -sexuals these days, I can't even keep track.
This is the problem if you're a liberal. You're either a free sqirit, and "don't like labels," or you're politically incorrect. :whatever:
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Pansexual????????...I guess a girl could use the handle but I see no way a guy could be this way....even with virgin olive oil.
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Rachael Ray uses EVOO.
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Pansexual????????...I guess a girl could use the handle but I see no way a guy could be this way....even with virgin olive oil.
that actually turned me on :lmao:
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:lmao: Why is "pansexual" even a type of sex...er "screwedupness?" Sounds like Bi-sexual to me? What's wrong with the latter term? There's so many -sexuals these days, I can't even keep track.
This is the problem if you're a liberal. You're either a free sqirit, and "don't like labels," or you're politically incorrect. :whatever:
Under normal latin rules "pan" means "all" so it would include just about anything.
Maybe she likes bunnies too.
*grooms ears*
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Hmmm. After all that: A marvelous opening. Her desperate plea to give her a chance. She just wants a good discussion. She even gave out personal information she was so desperate for communication.
Even after a TMI moment (do we really need to know you're pansexual on your first post?)
after all of that, now she just ups and disapears.
Why? Cold feet? Not from a 20 year old. those kids are fearless!
I'm beginning to wonder if there was an ulterior motive here.
Seen it before. Theres one in GD right now. Its a hit and run liberal. I just want a good debate, and then vanish/ Is exposure to truth like Raid on the Progressive roaches?
Come on kid. whats holding you back?
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It's possible that the personal information they posted belonged to someone in law enforcement and a trap was being set, or she was giving the information of someone she doesn't like.
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It's possible that the personal information they posted belonged to someone in law enforcement and a trap was being set, or she was giving the information of someone she doesn't like.
Like Obama track us down shit?
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I'm sick of being in a society where it's "I HATE LIBS" or "I HATE CONSERVATIVES" No. I don't hate anyone! We just disagree, and if we could all just have calm discussions...I think we'd be much happier.
I don't know if my opinions will change, but I hope to be more tolerant of conservatives in my daily life by understanding them better through debate. That is my main intention. I want to come to a place where we are all equal and respectful.
I HATE LIBS. So, with that, eat poop and choke on it, fruitcake.
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I HATE LIBS. So, with that, eat poop and choke on it, fruitcake.
A huge ditto!
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At last count there were 12 genders. A perfect dozen. If "Pansexual" becomes an accepted it's lucky 13, or, a baker's dozen.
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I'll apologize later if you prove me wrong, but I 'really' don't believe you. Regardless, welcome to posting at CC.
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She is conspicuous by her absence.
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I am an atheist
Nice. I'm kinda nonreligious, some might classify me as agnostic, I haven't found a religion I like yet. Atheism is cool.
I am pansexual (basically a lesbian but I'm engaged to a man)
Nice. I'm pro-LGBT rights.
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