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Title: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: franksolich on January 10, 2012, 08:00:30 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11573245

Oh my.

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Stinky The Clown (44,341 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

Just a simple soup tip

When making beef soup (beef barley, in my case, but it applies to any vegetable beef sort of soup) from canned stock, we usually use our favorite brand of canned beef stock (or the cheapest brand we can find).

I've been using a can of condensed consomme to fortify the flavor of the ordinary stock. I've done this a few times and it seems to be best to use one can of consomme for every two cans of stock. I also add a quarter can of water to cut the cloying nature of the fully condensed consomme down to a wonderfully unctuous taste and mouth.

For stew I go one step further and add an envelope of unflavored gelatine to the stew liquid as it is thickening. Being unflavored, it adds only one thing - a luxurious mouth feel.

Oh, I dunno.

franksolich just tosses a bunch of beef bouillon cubes into the water when making beef noodle soup.

That's all it takes.

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kas125 (1,741 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. Wow, in all my years of cooking, I've never thought to add gelatin to stew, but it makes so much sense. Thanks!

Bouillon cubes, not gelatin.

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grasswire (32,544 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. I heard Alton say that.

And you know, this may explain the consistency of some good beef soups I've had. Gelatin. Interesting. Would it also work in chicken soup? Not beef stock, of course, but gelatin.

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Stinky The Clown (44,341 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. It would have the same effect on chicken soup

You ever notice when you cool the pan juices from a roast chicken they are loaded with natural gelatin? That shows up in chicken soup from natural stock but lacks in a lot of commercial stocks.

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grasswire (32,544 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. oh, sure

But homemade chicken broth that has inherent chicken gelatin doesn't have a real unctious mouth feel, in my experience. I might try it.

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pipoman (7,113 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

8. I've never used gelatine

my mother used fine tapioca in her stew for a similar effect, I have done this. I have some tapioca flour I use for thickening specifically for gluten free diets. I'll try the gelatin sometime.

I use Minor's concentrated bases for most soups. With these bases you can set the strength where you want it. It is somewhat cheaper than canned stock, not paying for as much packaging or shipping of water. On some of the more upscale dinners I have used Custom Culinary demi-glace, it's expensive but contains the natural collagen (gelatin) found in homemade stocks.

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EFerrari (158,678 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

9. ATK just showed a beef stew segment and they added gelatin to make the sauce silky. Will have to try this for my advanced beef stew project. 

ETA: they also threw in some anchovies & tomato paste to make the flavor more beefy -- before the wine, stock.)

It's actually a pretty mundane campfire, but I just needed to let the cooking and baking primitives know that while franksolich is preoccupied with other things, the cooking and baking primitives are never far from his thoughts.
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: BEG on January 10, 2012, 08:03:21 PM
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a luxurious mouth feel

This is enough to make you want to gag coming from Stinky.
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: Ballygrl on January 10, 2012, 08:11:28 PM
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a wonderfully unctuous taste and mouth.

For stew I go one step further and add an envelope of unflavored gelatine to the stew liquid as it is thickening. Being unflavored, it adds only one thing - a luxurious mouth feel.


Is that the Cooking and Baking Forum? or the Porn Forum?
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: thundley4 on January 10, 2012, 08:19:56 PM
This is enough to make you want to gag coming from Stinky.

But it gets most of the DUmmie males hot and bothered.
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 11, 2012, 04:43:40 AM
Why doesn't he go the organic route? Just throw in some hog guts, 1/2 of a dead cow hide, some connective tissue, a little battery acid and WAA-LAA, homemade gelatin in his beef soup/stew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: Karin on January 11, 2012, 08:24:12 AM
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doesn't have a real unctious mouth feel
--Grasswire

That was so funny, I burst out laughing.  Like a child imitating a new word her parents are trying to teach her.

Maybe I'm a purist, but making beef soup out of canned stock, throwing Knox in there to try and imitate, is just not something I'd do.  Why not start off with some dirt cheap soup bones?  Roast them up and go from there. 
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: Chris_ on January 11, 2012, 08:44:09 AM
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unc·tu·ous Adjective: 1.(of a person) Excessively or ingratiatingly flattering; oily: "anxious to please in an unctuous way".
2.(chiefly of minerals) Having a greasy or soapy feel.

Synonyms: oily - greasy - oleaginous

You keep using that word.  I don't think it means what you think it means.
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: docstew on January 11, 2012, 08:54:57 AM

You keep using that word.  I don't think it means what you think it means.

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Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 11, 2012, 09:59:27 AM

You keep using that word.  I don't think it means what you think it means.
When I hear "unctuous" I'm reminded of Paul Bearer of the WWF.
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: dixierose on January 11, 2012, 02:28:48 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk[/youtube]

One of my favorite movies EVAH!! Right behind Tombstone....
Title: Re: the Godfather gives a simple soup trick
Post by: Carl on January 11, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
Am I correct that the dude is essentially buying canned soup to make into what he thinks is homemade soup?

God you are stupid stink.