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Title: primitives discuss the language of violence, with surprising conclusion
Post by: franksolich on May 06, 2008, 08:07:21 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3250099

Oh my.

The original post (poster: the spitting hissy primitive, "Hissyspit") is about some guy accusing the "right" of using the "language of violence", too long to bring over here.

It's a small bonfire, and obviously the Obamaite sub-primitives haven't seen it yet.

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aquart  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue May-06-08 06:43 AM
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3. Yep. Truly sucks when the Obama acolytes repeat it.
Title: Re: primitives discuss the language of violence, with surprising conclusion
Post by: Lord Undies on May 06, 2008, 08:41:50 AM
Any article which bases its premise on the evils of "right-wing hate" isn't worthy of time it would take to read it.  The "right-wing hate" concept is as dishonest as everything else a liberal spews.  Using right-wing "violent language", whatever that is, as the reason for political discourse in this nation is about as dishonest as the left-wing can get.  It goes beyond mere projection and straight to boldfaced lying. 

I read the article posted at the DUmp.  I know what it is.  I have seen daily evidence of what I know is happening. 

What we are witnessing is a concert of effort to deliberately acclimate the general public to the accept the notion that right-wing media is the cause of all unhappiness and evil in their lives.   It isn't a new effort by any means, but it is a stronger and more aggressive effort fed by the socialist lefts collective belief that they are on the cusp of an era where they will soon assume all the political power this nation has to offer.

Most people will not notice that this right-wing "violent language", this new blight on peoples lives, is actually the right-wing taking the left-wing's common rhetoric and turning it around on them.   It is the left's own words applied to their own actions.     
Title: Re: primitives discuss the language of violence, with surprising conclusion
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 06, 2008, 12:51:33 PM
Any article which bases its premise on the evils of "right-wing hate" isn't worthy of time it would take to read it.  The "right-wing hate" concept is as dishonest as everything else a liberal spews.  Using right-wing "violent language", whatever that is, as the reason for political discourse in this nation is about as dishonest as the left-wing can get.  It goes beyond mere projection and straight to boldfaced lying. 

I read the article posted at the DUmp.  I know what it is.  I have seen daily evidence of what I know is happening. 

What we are witnessing is a concert of effort to deliberately acclimate the general public to the accept the notion that right-wing media is the cause of all unhappiness and evil in their lives.   It isn't a new effort by any means, but it is a stronger and more aggressive effort fed by the socialist lefts collective belief that they are on the cusp of an era where they will soon assume all the political power this nation has to offer.

Most people will not notice that this right-wing "violent language", this new blight on peoples lives, is actually the right-wing taking the left-wing's common rhetoric and turning it around on them.   It is the left's own words applied to their own actions.     

First of all, H5 for recognizing that. 

Then, we have to be on the blogs, on the radio shows, saying this.
Title: Re: primitives discuss the language of violence, with surprising conclusion
Post by: Chris_ on May 06, 2008, 01:49:12 PM
There are multiple fallacies and outright lies in the OP.

To begin with, the use of the word "violence" is gratuitous -- it isn't even defined.  Calling for the USA to enforce its laws against treason and sedition does NOT constitute "violence."  The call to repel those who would attempt to overthrow the US, from within or without, is NOT violence.  I note they don't actually QUOTE anyone on the Right, except for O'Reilly calling for the arrest of a traitor (not tarring and feathering).

The statement "I began to realize that the last significant violent turn in American political ideology and practice involved both the political right and the left" is completely disingenuous.  The Weather Underground, SLA, Black Panthers, etc. etc. were all a creation of the Left.  At that time, the tiny fringe of White Separatists were not part of the national milieu.  And the OP doesn't even bother to list any political right sources of so-called (and still undefined) violence.

And this statement "This, however, is not the political philosophy that guided the framers of the U.S. Constitution" is so ignorant as to remove any credibility from this already un-credible writer.  Starting with "Give me liberty or give me death," the entire birthing of this country was accomplished through violence and violent talk.  The framers understood the importance of might and the use thereof.

And the Left licks this stuff up like the rest of the sugar-colored shit they so love.

Title: Re: primitives discuss the language of violence, with surprising conclusion
Post by: dutch508 on May 06, 2008, 01:56:02 PM
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The River (951 posts) (http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/avatars/service_vietnam.gif)  Tue May-06-08 07:34 AM
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5. Exactly Right
 I "lost" a sister to Rush Limballs.
Years of being forced to listen to him in the workplace
brainwashed her. His lies turned her into a hateful dittohead.
I can't even talk to her now.

K&R


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lpbk2713  (1000+ posts)      Tue May-06-08 08:58 AM
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10. Wasn't it O'Louffa who said it would be OK if terrorists destroyed all of San Francisco?
 That clown needs to be locked up for evaluation.