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Title: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: thundley4 on January 01, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
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Obama Aides Say He Will Bypass Congress And Focus On Executive Orders During Reelection Campaign, “At Least Two Or Three Per Week”…
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/12/31/obama-aides-say-he-will-bypass-congress-and-focus-on-executive-orders-during-reelection-campaign-at-least-two-or-three-per-week/
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: cmypay on January 01, 2012, 10:18:46 AM
Can Congress override his executive orders? I ask because I honestly don't know. Somehow these "executive orders" seem un-constitutional
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: thundley4 on January 01, 2012, 10:24:23 AM
Can Congress override his executive orders? I ask because I honestly don't know. Somehow these "executive orders" seem un-constitutional

I don't think they can, and Harry Reid wouldn't do it anyway.
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 01, 2012, 10:35:29 AM
There will be so many wanting to shoot him, if he does that, that they will have to take a number and wait in line.

God, I honestly hope no one kills him. I couldn't stand another overblown martyr.

If you remember the stuff they passed in JFK's name, just think of what they will pass in The Obumler's name.  :bawl: ...and that's exactly why the shooter/killer will be a DUmmie.
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: CG6468 on January 01, 2012, 10:43:06 AM
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Critics fear that the president could make himself a de facto dictator by side-stepping the other branches of government and making autocratic laws. The Italian philosopher Giorgio Agamben in particular has criticized the generalization since World War I of the use of executive orders or decrees by all Western democracies, declaring that this tends toward the constitution of a "permanent state of exception." The presidents, however, often cite executive order as the only way to clarify laws passed through Congress that often require vague wording to please all parties involved in their creation.

It is quite common for US Presidents to issue executive orders that instruct federal agencies to promulgate administrative regulations in order to circumvent the legislative process in the US Congress altogether, though, as alluded to above, this can violate the US Constitution in a number of ways. US Presidents are quite aware that US congressional politics can defeat or otherwise prevent the passage of legislation presidents deem politically important. In this regard, US Presidents have issued executive orders calling upon federal agencies, such as the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the US Department of Energy (DOE), to issue administrative regulations where the political process of adopting congressional legislation necessary to implement multilateral environmental regulatory treaty obligations a president wishes for the US to assume would prevent US ratification of/accession to that treaty. US Presidents, furthermore, may use an executive order or a presidential memorandum to ensure that federal courts abide by international tribunal rulings interpreting the provisions of an international treaty. Perhaps, President Obama has in mind to pursue one or both of these uses of executive orders to ensure the US abides by any successor agreement to the Kyoto Protocol to the UN Convention on Climate Change and by the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

Legal conflicts

To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1996 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the U.S. government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll. Congress may overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it or by refusing to approve funding to enforce it. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the supermajority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism.

Executive Orders (http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/executive_order)
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: docstew on January 01, 2012, 11:00:53 AM
As long as he doesn't try to write an EO rescinding the election. That's when shit gets real...
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: CG6468 on January 01, 2012, 11:10:29 AM
As long as he doesn't try to write an EO rescinding the election. That's when shit gets real...

I have feared that since before he stole the office. He wants unrest and class warfare? That would be the time for civil war, and his unarmed anti-gun followers would lose big time..
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: Evil_Conservative on January 01, 2012, 12:29:12 PM
I don't think he will.  Obama would have started doing this long ago.  We have nothing to worry about anyway.  His ass is getting the boot this year.
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 01, 2012, 02:13:58 PM
I'm hoping we can fix the "Harry Reid is the Senate Majority Leader and therefore controls the Senate legislative docket" problem in November.
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: FreeBorn on January 01, 2012, 04:08:54 PM
As long as he doesn't try to write an EO rescinding the election. That's when shit gets real...
He can try it but there won't be a bunker remote enough or deep enough for him to hide in if he does.

See my sig line, that would become real and stretch from coast to coast.
Title: Re: Obama to become dictator in 2012.
Post by: docstew on January 01, 2012, 07:05:06 PM
He can try it but there won't be a bunker remote enough or deep enough for him to hide in if he does.

See my sig line, that would become real and stretch from coast to coast.

I don't think they'd have anything to worry about from the military. I might not be able to join them, but I wouldn't stand against em.