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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 20, 2011, 01:47:29 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/100239661
A very long thread but worth rowing over.
SYNOPSIS: Cid_B asks why Manning gets so much rockstar treatment when he has a repeated history of violence towards women.
Naturally, the first accusations are: WHAT VIOLENCE?!?! You're making this up. Why do you have to lie about St. Bradley of the Purple Pucker Hole!
Well, it turns out there is a body of reports. Apparently a superior found Manning holding down a female and pummelling her with enough force to leave her swollen.
Later he was reduced in rank for striking an officer who was coincidentally female. He even went so far as to call her a dyke at a forum he frequented. Those in denial deny this of course.
Additionally, his wiki entry cites an incident where he was led from the family home by police after pulling a knife on grandma.
The next line of defense is to claim this is a frame-up ala Julian "you called me here, of course you want to ****" Assange. Since Assange has not been found guilty--because he's fighting extradition--somehow proves Manning is also just as innocent.
Then there is the Scott "Friend of Whoreson" Ritter whose noble work of--something--should exonerate his penchant for meeting his erstwhile sexual partners at the local McDonald's Play Place. You see, St. Manning also revealed--something--although we're not sure what because for the massive amount of data dumped the missives have been consistently an embarrassment for progressive policy-makers more than they have ever revealed any nefarious plot of the RW neocon oil-sotted Zionist cabals to frame poor, innocent Middle Eastern dictators with fabricated evidence of WMD. Of all the secret memos St Manning released he missed the folders that reveal where 1 million Iraqis deliberately gunned down by Dick Cheney are buried.
Oddly, these are the sorts of beneficient doubts or contextualizations never allowed to people like Herman Cain or even the legally and ethically thrice-married Newt Gingrich (The Clintons and Kennedys could not be reached for comment).
Still, they twist and spin and it is fun to watch.
Go have a looksee. How absurd do the defenses become?
backscatter712
34. Oskar Schindler cheated on his wife and cluster****ed every business he ever ran...
But that doesn't diminish the fact that he saved thousands of Jews who would otherwise have gone to the ovens.
How do the allegations in this thread diminish Manning's heroic act of whistleblowing that showed the corruption and depravity of our leaders?
BONUS: Nads makes a fact-free arrogant insertion and is roundly slapped into silence. Stupid Beth too.
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Amazing, especially when referencing this article on Hot Air:
http:bradley-manning-has-gender-issues (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/18/bradley-manning-has-gender-issues/)
His defence lawyer, David Coombs, highlighted emails his client had sent to a superior officer explaining that confusion about his gender identity was impacting on his ability to do his job.
Investigators admitted they had found evidence that Pte Manning had created an online alter ego called “Breanna Manningâ€.
Maybe he hates women because they are more feminine than he is?
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Another great nadinism:
Response to Azathoth (Reply #51)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:13 PM
nadinbrzezinski (99,892 posts)
65. Au cntrainere I gave you an answer
one you did NOT LIKE.
For "dangerous content" and photos go here...http://nadinbrzezinski.posterous.com/
I think she's inspired by coach's recent menus.
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Her use of the English language makes my brain cry. I wish she would just try to dumb it down enough to at least be able to spell some words.
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St. Bradley of the Purple Pucker Hole!
:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
H5, SSB!
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:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
H5, SSB!
Manning's heroic act of whistleblowing ...damn he must be good at giving BJ's....but I'm still not interested.
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The new jury system is not airtight:
Response to msanthrope (Reply #111)
Better Believe It This message was hidden by Jury decision.
Response to Better Believe It (Reply #116)
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 07:38 PM
Lisa D (331 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
119. Deserved it?
Are you actually suggesting that a woman deserves to be hit if she says the wrong thing to a man? And why does a slap or a punch make a difference. They're both a physical assault.
Please clarify.
Oh the spin over there. I'm dizzy.
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The new jury system is not airtight:
Oh the spin over there. I'm dizzy.
Those "people" would exonerate Jerry Sandusky if he suddenly started railing anti-US slogans. There is no sin heinous enough that cannot be absolved by American self-loathing.
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Face it DUmmies , He's going to jail and for a very long time.
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Face it DUmmies , He's going to jail and for a very long time.
He'll probably even get his dearest wish, and it'll be one of those notorious "pound you in the ass" prisons.
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I saw the thread, your description is as on-target as any attempt to corral the madness, denial, nonsequiturs, and syllogisms on display there could possibly be. They have constructed a playground for stupidity, illogic, and evasion that is truly colossal in its scope!
And what's with this 'Pte Manning' thing? It's either PV1 or PV2 according to AR 25-50, or of course PFC for an E3.
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I saw the thread, your description is as on-target as any attempt to corral the madness, denial, nonsequiturs, and syllogisms on display there could possibly be.
I have gazed into the abyss and the abyss has gazed back.
And it also told me those people are ****ing morons.
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I have gazed into the abyss and the abyss has gazed back.
Well, just don't put your lips on it.
:popcorn:
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Well, just don't put your lips on it.
:popcorn:
But the abyss has been sanitized for our protection.
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Just 'cause they can afford the sign, doesn't mean they can actually afford the cleaning crew. Just sayin.'
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Face it DUmmies , He's going to jail and for a very long time.
Hope we shoot the little tucker.
Hell, I'll shoot him for the DOD. Just give me the ball, coach.
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Hope we shoot the little tucker.
Hell, I'll shoot him for the DOD. Just give me the ball, coach.
I want to be on that firing squad! :cheersmate:
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Focused, like a laser, on what's really important:
FreeState (6,508 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
138. You do realize Manning is more than likely Transgender?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10144957
MH1 (11,716 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
147. Um, I hope I'm not being insensitive in some way, but why would it be relevant?
If he's beating up women he's beating up women. (not speaking to the accuracy of the charge - but if it is true, then why would transgender status matter?)
FreeState (6,508 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
150. There is no he if Manning identifies as female.
Last edited Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:45 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
It would be a female hitting a female. Transgender females are not male, HE is inappropriate.
According to Reuters News Service, Manning’s attorney, David Coombs, and Manning’s brigade chief, Captain Steven Lim, told the Dec. 17 Article 32 hearing that Manning informed an Army intelligence supervisor by email in April 2010 that he was suffering from gender identity disorder.
Lim testified at the hearing that Manning disclosed in his email that the disorder was “affecting his life, work and ability to think,†Reuters reported. Lim also testified that Manning’s email included a photo of Manning dressed as a woman.
Coombs stated at the hearing that Manning’s self disclosure that he was struggling over his gender identity was a sign that he was emotionally unstable and may not have been in a position to handle highly classified documents, Reuters reported.
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/12/19/lawyers-say-bradley-manning-struggled-with-gender-identity-disorder/
MH1 (11,716 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
153. Yeah, but didn't he report to duty as a male?
this is the first I've heard that he identified as female, and anyway, all that means is the pronoun 'he' would be inappropriate. It isn't exactly cool for women to be beating up on other women, whether or not they are transgender. (generally it's not cool for people to beat on other people, actually.)
FreeState (6,508 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
154. Mannings supervisors knew of Mannings gender identity
Does not matter what gender Manning identified as when Manning enrolled.
I agree it does not matter if both are women or men - however to the OP it does. ("... how do you get up the nerve to hold up a guy who beats women as this paragon of virtue? Among all his other amazing qualities of course... " ).
These are the same people who will tell you that females and sissies are somehow equal enough to men to serve in combat.
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FreeState (6,508 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
150. There is no he if Manning identifies as female.
It would be a female hitting a female. Transgender females are not male, HE is inappropriate.
:huh?:
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:huh?:
I think he's trying to say it isn't abuse because cat fights rawk
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FreeState (6,508 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
150. There is no he if Manning identifies as female...
Ummm, Pvt Manning can identify himself as a female panther trapped in a male human's body, but every cell of HIS body identified him as a human male, much as anybody else may believe he's unfit for the title.
Face it; the DNA never lies. He was just born that way, DUmbshit. :thatsright:
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:huh?:
Brought to you by DU! The reality based community!
:whatever:
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He was just born that way, DUmbshit.
Another Lady Gaga fan! I listen to her about half the time at the gym.
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FreeState (6,508 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
150. There is no he if Manning identifies as female.
It would be a female hitting a female. Transgender females are not male, HE is inappropriate.
"Good Ashe, bad Ashe, I'm the one with the gun."
Just off the little shitstain, we can figure out what color flowers to send afterward.
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I don't give a **** if he's gay. Transwhatever,Klingon. Vorgon,A large wooden badger or Mary,Queen of Scots the sorry,lying POS is going to do hard time.
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I don't give a **** if he's gay. Transwhatever,Klingon. Vorgon,A large wooden badger or Mary,Queen of Scots the sorry,lying POS is going to do hard time.
Death by firing squad....armed with Red Ryder BB guns.
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.....the sorry, lying POS is going to do hard time.
I wish he'd do more than just hard time.
Once a society tolerates treason against its survival, that society is doomed.
I wish he'd do a very short time, like however long it would take to put him out of his, and our, misery.
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I wish he'd do more than just hard time.
Once a society tolerates treason against its survival, that society is doomed.
I wish he'd do a very short time, like however long it would take to put him out of his, and our, misery.
I agree Frank but the military hasn't executed traitors since WWII.
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Death by firing squad....armed with Red Ryder BB guns.
Kinky. I like it!