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Title: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Tess Anderson on December 19, 2011, 03:51:33 PM
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 Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination books
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Case in point, this piece of trash: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1595230777/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=7365836844&ref=pd_sl_4hafluubcn_e

It's a book titled, Your Teacher Said What?!: Defending Our Kids from the Liberal Assault on Capitalism.

I haven't read this book, will not read it (my time is too damned precious to me to waste reading crap), and I certainly won't spend even 1 cent on it, but already I have a multitude of objections to this piece of crap:

(1) It's written by a right wing extremist;
(2) Like everything written by a right wing extremist, it ATTACKS teachers, when in reality teachers teach what they're ordered to teach;
(3) It ASSumes that libs are all against capitalism (which is false - many libs are completely pro capitalism);
(4) It pretends that it's libs that are indoctrinating children, when in reality it's RIGHT WINGERS doing this, as is clear by the fact that they spend a tremendous amount of time providing disinformation, misinformation, and whitewashing school books (for ex., the Texas School Board, and many more) to conceal the true history and current events of the U.S.;
(5) The book (if you browse 'inside' the book) is riddled with the promotion of God, which has no place in public education, except for those who wish to defecate on the Constitution which clearly separates church and state.

It's trash, and yet it's sold.

However, the scariest thing of all, is the idiots that read it and gave good marks to the thing. Their opinion letters are shown below the blurb about the book.

Amazing the crap that gets pushed as factual information in this country.
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crazy bitch
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 19, 2011, 04:02:48 PM
She certainly is.  What she really objects to is the idea that any viewpoint contrary to her own is actually available to the public at large, rather than being restricted only to credentialed Leftist researchers seeking an antidote.

I have a certain amount of sympathy for teachers, caught as they are between asshole parents, asshole administrators, and an asinine web of laws, court decisions, and regulations that all work together to make groupthink and passive mediocrity the only sure path to a full lifelong career, but Sarah is part of the problem, not part of the solution. 
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Karin on December 19, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
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any viewpoint contrary to her own is actually available to the public at large
It just absolutely burns her alive; that's where these bitter angry posts come from.  If was IRL, she's be shrieking.  What a gem.  Don't you just wish she was your pal? 
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Post by: LC EFA on December 19, 2011, 04:25:41 PM
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 Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination books

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Funny.

I have exactly the opposite problem.

Of course I don't see any real need to piss and moan when I see media that presents a viewpoint counter to my own on a freaking online retailer.  That sort of thing can easily be resolved by not bloody well intentionally seeking material which may offend simply to post about it on the internet.

If a real bricks and mortar store doesn't have what I want ; I don't shop there.

Really simple things like this seem to be totally lost on leftists.
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Freeper on December 19, 2011, 04:38:15 PM
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Drale
1. Well when everyone and their mother is able to write a book

what do you think you are going to get?

Classics like Will Pitts pamphlets?  :lmao:

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Dreamer Tatum
3. If you haven't read it, yet you have pointed criticism of it, you are what you complain about.

Sorry - alert if you want, I don't care. Criticizing things you don't know about is one of my little pet peeves.

Please, though - go ahead and call me every name in the book.
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Dreamer Tatum
8. Call me a thinker, but I like to do better than to "get the gist" of things.

Thanks.

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apocalypsehow
10. Funny thing, but when I run across books I don't like online, I point my browser elsewhere.

Works every single time. One thing I don't do is run right over to DU and post a link to the same right-wing screed I'm busy complaining about.

It's a funny old world, hey?

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themadstork
11. Always amused by how scared they are of different perspectives.

I don't really care if someone is determined to write from a certain perspective, but so many RW books are written like even listening to leftist analysis is going to physically harm you, or your children, etc. And then there's all the "A True Patriot's History of the USA"-type crap cluttering the history shelves.

And you also see it in - my aunt and uncle have become increasingly Republican as their income rises, and more and more you see them sheltering their children's intellectual input. They will not attend a church until they find a pastor whose views exactly match theirs, and basically anything they read watch or listen to has to be vetted for pro-God pro-Republican messages.

And these same people will usually boast of thinking of themselves, and so on. It's really weird. I've never understood how merely exposing yourself to an idea can be seen as so dangerous.


Sometimes I wish these people could see themselves from the outside, see how dotingly paranoid all the idea-vetting comes off. Ideas don't bite!

Find the irony in the above quote.  :-)

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Sarah Ibarruri
19. It's interesting that you mention the way your aunt and uncle shelter their kids from opinions that

differ from their right wing opinions.

A member of my family, the only one who is a Republican, and his wife, not only dumb their children down that way, but force a sort of dumbing down on themselves. These aren't stupid people, either, they just fear truth, equality and fairness, and they're willing to deny actual facts to defend the position that they feel will protect their views, their life, and their ill-gotten gains. They will deny facts to everyone else's face, as if they were blind and deaf. Very bizarre, the lengths they'll go to, to defend their lies.

Your parents did a hell of a job of dumbing you down.

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Sarah Ibarruri
16. LOL! Now that's a book I ought to give the only member of my family that's a Repuke. :)

But as is expected in Repukes, they don't read anything that's not approved by the GOP Junta.

That is just too damn amusing, she starts off saying that she won't read anything written by a non liberal then later complains that her right wing family won't read anything that goes against what they believe.

Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: franksolich on December 19, 2011, 04:41:08 PM
Question.

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.....my time is too damned precious to me to waste reading crap.....

But it's not too precious for crazy Sarah to waste it hanging around Skins's island?

I don't get it.
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
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(4) It pretends that it's libs that are indoctrinating children, when in reality it's RIGHT WINGERS doing this, as is clear by the fact that they spend a tremendous amount of time providing disinformation, misinformation, and whitewashing school books (for ex., the Texas School Board, and many more) to conceal the true history and current events of the U.S.;

I would love to hear this explained.  :lmao:
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Airwolf on December 19, 2011, 06:08:24 PM
If her viewpoint were anymore narrow she could'nt fit sunlight through those rainbow colored eyeglasses she has on.
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Doc Savage on December 19, 2011, 06:29:41 PM
The book was written by Joe Kernens High School daughter.  He helped her.  A true right wing extremists at 16.  If the primitive had read the reviews (at least a couple of them) it would have learned a little about the book.  I was watching squawk box the morning that his daughter was on talking about the book.  I personally was not impressed, not something for me, but I did show it to my HS son.  He is a future 1% er and was interested.  May get it for him for Christmas just to get the amazon number up.
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Tucker on December 19, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
She certainly is.  What she really objects to is the idea that any viewpoint contrary to her own is actually available to the public at large, rather than being restricted only to credentialed Leftist researchers seeking an antidote.

I have a certain amount of sympathy for teachers, caught as they are between asshole parents, asshole administrators, and an asinine web of laws, court decisions, and regulations that all work together to make groupthink and passive mediocrity the only sure path to a full lifelong career, but Sarah is part of the problem, not part of the solution. 

This may be true but it is still the individual educator that puts the final grade on the report cards, allowing a illiterate person to pass to the next grade because of no other reason than apathy.
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: jukin on December 19, 2011, 07:07:36 PM
ONE right wing book is TOO MUCH!!!!!11111!!!!!eleventy

A liberal's tolerance is zero meters.
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Ballygrl on December 19, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
Sarah's a mole! :whistling:
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 19, 2011, 07:29:03 PM
How do you suppose Sarah Imaboobi spends her precious time?

We know a lot of it's wasted trying to find a boyfriend.

Sarah Imaboobi must be one of the DUmbasses holding their breath in anticipation of the DOTY announcements.
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Post by: Gina on December 19, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
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I haven't read this book, will not read it (my time is too damned precious to me to waste reading crap), and I certainly won't spend even 1 cent on it, but already I have a multitude of objections to this piece of crap:

but she will spend the time to post about it............... :mental:
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Ballygrl on December 19, 2011, 07:39:22 PM
So let me get this straight

Reading a book written by Republicans=Bad

Getting..........how do I put this in a ladylike way........getting boinked by a Republican who happens to be a great guy and treats her wonderfully=Good

Hypocrisy?
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Mr Mannn on December 19, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
Once again liberals demonstrate their intolerance for the freedoms of the first amendment.
We know they hate the right to own guns. But freedom of speech, the press, religion are all on their list.

Bottom line: they want freedom for the elite only...the masses must be controlled. I'm sure they believe they will be invited into the elite for their years of posting support.
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Post by: Tucker on December 19, 2011, 09:13:15 PM
So let me get this straight

Reading a book written by Republicans=Bad

Getting..........how do I put this in a ladylike way........getting boinked by a Republican who happens to be a great guy and treats her wonderfully=Good

Hypocrisy?

She hated the boinking as well. What she liked was the free dinner and movie. She felt she owed him the boinking and she complied.
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: dutch508 on December 19, 2011, 09:17:02 PM
She hated the boinking as well. What she liked was the free dinner and movie. She felt she owed him the boinking and she complied.

Still fail to see the bad side of this.
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 20, 2011, 04:17:56 AM
Still fail to see the bad side of this.

Maybe she just laid there like a dead fish? :???: :whatever:
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: diesel driver on December 20, 2011, 04:50:55 AM
Maybe she just laid there like a dead fish? :???: :whatever:

Maybe?   :lmao:
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 20, 2011, 05:24:17 AM
(5) The book (if you browse 'inside' the book) is riddled with the promotion of God, which has no place in public education, except for those who wish to defecate on the Constitution which clearly separates church and state.

The brown stains must be keeping me from seeing the separation as clearly and as destinkly as a DUmmie claims to see it. ...or I may need to get my eyes checked.
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Post by: vesta111 on December 20, 2011, 06:43:11 AM
 :lmao: :lmao:

BAD VESTA came across a book years ago titled " The Lies Our Teachers Taught Us "

Naughty Vesta gave the book to a family member that was a retired American History Highschool Teacher.

Result was this Conservative Church going family member was appalled.   They spent hours on the internet to disprove each chapter, SURPRISE, the poor retired teacher realised that for 40 years they had been teaching from a political point that had been white washed or morphed into something quite different from what THEY were Taught or the Schools demanded they teach.

At first I felt bad about pulling their tail they were old, why bother them with the facts???   Darn if they did not begin to teach again in a Christian Church School part time in order to set the record straight.   It became important to them to insure the students got the facts, not what some Liberal was writing for the textbooks.   

To their surprise they ran up against Liberal Christians that challenged them, they also had been brain washed by those with a political ax to grind.

Never know unless one reads the kids textbooks what and by whom they are learning from.  They now believe that what a teacher teaches, unless Math, it is not the kids responsibility to investigate their education, it is to those that teach to insure their students have all information pro and con on the subject.  Few question American History over what they are taught.

Only subject where a teacher can freely tell the student is Science " it use to be thought so and so was this way.  Today we now know the thinking was wrong, the Experts were wrong at that time"-------
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 20, 2011, 07:15:52 AM
The book was written by Joe Kernens High School daughter.  He helped her.  A true right wing extremists at 16.  If the primitive had read the reviews (at least a couple of them) it would have learned a little about the book.  I was watching squawk box the morning that his daughter was on talking about the book.  I personally was not impressed, not something for me, but I did show it to my HS son.  He is a future 1% er and was interested.  May get it for him for Christmas just to get the amazon number up.


Actually, Joe Kernen's daughter Blake is 11 or 12 and she and her dad wrote this book.  Joe Kernen is conservative but he's definitely not a right wing extremist as Craaaaaaazzzzzzy Sarah alleges.  

If this is the daughter of a right wing extremist, this country should be so lucky to have more of her.  

Here's a video of her and her dad:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRJn_XTXsPA[/youtube]

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Post by: Karin on December 20, 2011, 07:49:07 AM
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11. Always amused by how scared they are of different perspectives.

  Oh, we're not scared.  Did you notice how sales of Alinsky's book went through the roof after inauguration?  We read all this stuff, just to see what you guys are up to.  See, every other thing you say is a lie, so we know we have to sort through all of it.  Not scared.  Not at all. 



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Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 20, 2011, 09:14:01 AM
Still fail to see the bad side of this.

I expect she wanted to talk afterward, instead of shutting up and letting the poor bastard go to sleep.
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Post by: movie buff on December 20, 2011, 11:38:43 AM
"The book (if you browse 'inside' the book) is riddled with the promotion of God, which has no place in public education, except for those who wish to defecate on the Constitution which clearly separates church and state."
1. Oh, we can't have any reference to God in anything relating to public school education, now can we? Never mind that many public schools have Christian clubs in them that are fully within their rights to talk about their faith (In high school, one such group was instrumental in helping to lead me to Christ). Uh- oh, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that; now this DUmmie is probably going to demand that every single Christian group/ club in any public school be immediately disbanded, their members expelled, their faculty sponsors fired, and all of them arrested for committing a hate crime.
2. As Christophobic bigot libs apparently must constantly be reminded of, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE APPEARS NOWHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION, YOU FREAKING IMBECILES! The Establishment Clause of the Constitution simply states that there can be no official state religion established, and also says that there can be no prohibition of the free exercise of religious beliefs (Libs love to forget that second part). The term "Separation of Church and State" came from a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to a group of Baptists (A religious minority in America at that time) in which he was assuring them that the government would stay out of their church's affairs. He never intended it to be used the other way around, that there can be no religious expression in schools or other public areas the way so many liberal Christophobes claim.
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Post by: Wineslob on December 20, 2011, 12:13:35 PM
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they just fear truth, equality and fairness, and they're willing to deny actual facts to defend the position that they feel will protect their views, their life, and their ill-gotten gains. They will deny facts to everyone else's face, as if they were blind and deaf. Very bizarre, the lengths they'll go to, to defend their lies.


Wow, where have I heard this line repeated, over, and over, and over..............
Title: Re: "Doing some book Xmas shopping - and finding TOO MANY right wing indoctrination"
Post by: jukin on December 20, 2011, 12:30:44 PM
This book is both truthful and at the reading level of the most educated Duchebag.

Everything Obama Knows About The Economy (Blank Inside) [Paperback]
http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Obama-Knows-Economy-Inside/dp/0980074231/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324405434&sr=8-1
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Post by: Ogre on December 20, 2011, 07:34:17 PM
I expect she wanted to talk afterward, instead of shutting up and letting the poor bastard go to sleep.
Bingo, I don't believe he ever existed at all, and if he did your explanation is the most plausible.
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Post by: Ptarmigan on December 20, 2011, 07:35:45 PM
I like it when they are angry.  :-) :lmao:
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Post by: Duke Nukum on December 20, 2011, 07:38:22 PM
I think I'm going to steal Sarah Ibiot's outline and write and pro-left wing/anti-reich wing book based on it and see if it will fly.
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Post by: Traveshamockery on December 20, 2011, 08:01:31 PM
This book is both truthful and at the reading level of the most educated Duchebag.

Everything Obama Knows About The Economy (Blank Inside) [Paperback]
http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Obama-Knows-Economy-Inside/dp/0980074231/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324405434&sr=8-1



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