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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on May 04, 2008, 08:50:11 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3244592
Oh my.
I wondered whatever came of that.
The dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher:
proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-04-08 09:27 PM
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Remember the Code Pinker who held up red hands in front of Condi's face? She was in court last week.
Here is the email she sent out to her supporters:
Update from Des!! After initially being charged with two counts of assaulting a police officer and one count of "disorderly conduct" for calling Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a "War criminal!" and telling her "The blood of millions of Iraqis is on your hands…"
after which photograph of pink underwear woman shoving red hands at Secretary of State
I was found guilty this past Friday by Judge Richard H. Ringell of only one disorderly conduct charge. (Note that the "government" dropped the assault charges because, according to prosecutor Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, the "victim",Condoleezza Rice would have had to appear in court to testify.)
After the judge presented his reasons for the guilty verdict, I was given the opportunity to make a pre-sentencing statement, which I am including below:
Your honor, the decision to invade Iraq was illegal, and catastrophic, wreaking havoc on our domestic security and world stability. As citizens of the United States of America, I believe we must stand up and speak out against these crimes.
I have phoned, emailed, and written my congressional leaders. I have visited my senators' and congressman's offices at home in Texas and here in Washington, D.C. I have signed and delivered petitions. I have marched, camped out and participated in vigils and nonviolent demonstrations. I have fasted and mourned the loss of life, both American and Iraqi.
Nevertheless your honor, I intended no harm nor did I intend to disrupt the hearing proceedings on October 24th. My intentions were to embody and to reiterate the strong dissent in our country – that Americans continue to speak out for what is morally right and to denounce our government when it does wrong. I believe that anything less is consent to war crimes.
After reading my statement, Judge Ringell made mention of the civil disobedience acts of Thoreau, Gandhi, and Dr. Martin Luther King, as models of resistance. He went on to say that they all understood that they would eventually spend time in jail for their acts. He told me,"Some day you'll have to accept the consequences of your acts, but not in this forum ." He could have given me 180 days in jail and up to $1000 fine per the charge and the request of the prosecution, but instead he sentenced me to 5 days suspended sentence, 3 months of unsupervised probation, and $50 for a mandatory victim's fund.
Although I was mentally prepared for the jail time, I was elated to know that I would continue working with my sisters and brothers-in-peace in the streets or on the Hill this summer as we struggle to end the violence in Iraq. Thank you, Liz, Les & Jes, Gael, Polly, Ellen, Pete Perry, David Barrows and Jack Barringer, for being present at my sentencing and to cheer me on. Special appreciation to my court appointed attorney, Mark Loudon-Brown whose closing statement was so inspiring. Mark tried valiantly to get me acquitted of all charges and presented a clear argument in my favor that my action was political, was intense, but did not breach the peace by actually or potentially incite anyone to violence. Though the Judge did not accept his arguments I feel Lady Justice did prevail!
Thank you to all who called, texted and emailed their support!
Love & Peace,
Des
countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-04-08 09:33 PM
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4. K&R
She's a brave woman!
Yeah, right.
"Brave" is being a dissident standing "trial" in one of the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, and thereafter evaporating into the nacht und nebel.
icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-04-08 09:35 PM
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6. How in the world could this judge compare her to Thoreau, Gandhi, and Dr. Martin Luther King....
and then still warn her of accepting the consequences of her acts?!
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Her little statement was as predictable as a Chinese fortune cookie.
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Maybe, God forbid, the Code Pink Stinkwad will suffer an early death from bitterness and stupidity. Those things take their toll.
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Her little statement was as predictable as a Chinese fortune cookie.
I especially appreciated the part about how she "didn't intend to be disruptive." :therock:
What would have been the point of her little scene otherwise?
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-04-08 09:35 PM
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6. How in the world could this judge compare her to Thoreau, Gandhi, and Dr. Martin Luther King....
and then still warn her of accepting the consequences of her acts?!
Dear DUmmie...the judge wasn't comparing HER to these people but citing them as examples of people who chose civil disobedience and faced the consequences. Oh, and this woman wasn't brave. Gandhi (who went to jail) was brave. MLK (who went to jail) were brave. They KNEW they faced grave personal danger. Police handle you idiots with kid gloves because you scream like 2 year olds if they don't (and sometimes even when they do). Those fine men and women in uniform who defend her right to pretend she cares one day and call them killers the next...are brave.
This woman was protesting in a free country...had that been all she did she wouldn't even have had a day in court. She chose to infringe on another citizen's (Secretary Rice's) "rights" and that's what got her into trouble. That and she saw fit to harass the police who were doing their job. You moonbats are a dime a dozen and nothing about you (including your underwear) has changed in decades. Nobody cares...you're less than useless and yet others far greater than you are willing to die so that you can remain a festering boil on the ass of America.
Cindie
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You moonbats are a dime a dozen and nothing about you (including your underwear) has changed in decades.
HA HA HA HA! :lmao:
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-04-08 09:35 PM
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6. How in the world could this judge compare her to Thoreau, Gandhi, and Dr. Martin Luther King....
and then still warn her of accepting the consequences of her acts?!
Dear DUmmie...the judge wasn't comparing HER to these people but citing them as examples of people who chose civil disobedience and faced the consequences. Oh, and this woman wasn't brave. Gandhi (who went to jail) was brave. MLK (who went to jail) were brave. They KNEW they faced grave personal danger. Police handle you idiots with kid gloves because you scream like 2 year olds if they don't (and sometimes even when they do). Those fine men and women in uniform who defend her right to pretend she cares one day and call them killers the next...are brave.
This woman was protesting in a free country...had that been all she did she wouldn't even have had a day in court. She chose to infringe on another citizen's (Secretary Rice's) "rights" and that's what got her into trouble. That and she saw fit to harass the police who were doing their job. You moonbats are a dime a dozen and nothing about you (including your underwear) has changed in decades. Nobody cares...you're less than useless and yet others far greater than you are willing to die so that you can remain a festering boil on the ass of America.
Cindie
I was going to pick out the quote that Chris did and H5 ya, but I'm too lazy to edit out all the stuff. Plus, the caffiene is kicking in, so I'll just cite the whole thing and H5 ya anyway . . . ;)
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My question is this:
Apparently there would have been some sort of different outcome if the Secretary of State had agreed to appear in court and testify?
Right, or no?
If the Secretary of State had appeared in court, the charge and resultant penalty would have been stiffer?
Right, or no?
I think the Bush administration did what it does best, and showed grace and class by saying, "ah, forget it, it's not worth our time and trouble; we've got more important things to do."
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^I think so frank. Sec. Rice would have had to testify thus lending more credence and publicity to the farce. The Administration wisely chose the right path.
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^I think so frank. Sec. Rice would have had to testify thus lending more credence and publicity to the farce. The Administration wisely chose the right path.
Yes, definately. That wacko pink b*tch doesn't deserve the attention Sec. Rice would generate.