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Title: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: shadeaux on December 09, 2011, 03:30:58 PM
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DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-09-11 04:18 PM

Original message

"Can you spare any change for food?"
 
 Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 04:23 PM by DainBramaged

That comment stunned me as I exited my local supermarket earlier this afternoon. I turned, and there sitting as if everything was great on this sunny day, reading a newspaper like they belonged, was a young couple. First glance, well dressed, not dirty, no 'meth marks' on their faces. Neither smoking. He shaggy blond hair sticking out from under a ski cap, her dark hair under a hoodie. Nice coats, nice boots on both.


"Is it for food or drugs and booze?"


No sir (huh, sir, are you shitting me?) we're hungry and we have no money.


You have split seconds to think how to respond without being hostile appearing or judgemental.

"Can I buy you lunch?"

YES sir, yes sir you can!"


I had just come out of the market, $43.00 in food for most of the week. Fits in a couple of cloth bags. I had a $20 as the change.

"I need to put this in my car, I'll be right back"

OK, we'll wait."


Polite, good teeth, pretty warmly dressed, but there was this edge, they didn't seem to be 'average' homeless.

Stuff in the car, walking back. I think, what is it, stray dogs and cats, dozens of people coming in and out, they asked me. I'm no angel, but my angels keep me grounded.


"Pizza good?"

Yes sir, if it's hot, we're happy!"

We walk down the mall to the pizza joint. "Where are you from?" Not around here sir."

"Are you both older than 18?" " Yes sir, I'm 23, my sister is 21."


Their names are Rich and Pat. I took it as truth. I have no reason to doubt them.


We got to the pizza joint and found a booth. "How about hot subs instead of pizza, I'm sure you get that a lot?" Quick looks and a faint smile from his sister, "Yes sir, we'd like that, you can order for us."

As I've stated before, we've not many 'poor' round these parts, it's one of the richest Puke counties in the US. I ordered them meatball subs and got them both drinks from the cooler. I spent $18.42 of my $20 bill. I'm the one who will be sucking down PB&J sandwiches this week, but that's OK.

"Where are you from?" Quick glances, nods, and then " We're from Indiana, we've been trying to get South where it's warmer before it is too cold. Our Mom had some problems she can't fix, we couldn't stay."

I sat speechless while they ate, it wasn't my place to ask any more personal questions. When you're poor and you HAVE to get out of your house, it's probably best. Their hair wasn't clean. Their hands were, but it was a while since they've showered.

"I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you have nice clothes". " Oh, (laughing quietly) we just raided the clothing bins over there last night, folks throw away nice clothes around here. My boots are new, little big, but they're new."

Living on the road in the richest country in the world and you're raiding clothing donation bins to stay warm.

"How do you get rides, it's illegal to hitch around here." "We hang out where there are trucks and try and get a ride. It's not always pleasant, but we've made it here."

"How long have you been on the road?" "Three weeks, three weeks."


(disclaimer; we talked a lot more, just too much to write down. They never told me why they left, but they were genuinely good kids).

After they finished, I told them I had to go, and asked it I could do anything else to help.

"No sir, no sir, it's been a good day now"

I got up, I shook his hand, his sister gave me a tentative hug, and I gave them this small compact LCD flashlight I carry to help me see when I'm walking at night. They didn't want to take it, but I insisted.

I turned and walked out tears streaming down my wrinkled old face because there's nothing else I can do for them, I'm too poor myself. I only hope they make it ok, and I hope MY angel looks after them.


Thanks for reading.
 

I can't comment.  I am laughing too hard !   :lmao:
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: shadeaux on December 09, 2011, 03:40:17 PM
I still can't quite compose myself !

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As I've stated before, we've not many 'poor' round these parts, it's one of the richest Puke counties in the US.

I get a kick out of this statement.  All DUmmies live in affluent neighborhoods.  One day, go on the DUmp, google in their search box :

I live in an affluent neighborhood

You don't have to be a member to see the numerous DUmmies claiming to be well off.  Or acting like they are.

It's hilarious !
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: dutch508 on December 09, 2011, 03:54:13 PM
Good teeth?

What a fuchface.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 09, 2011, 03:58:36 PM
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All DUmmies live in affluent neighborhoods. 
 
I can't comment.  I am laughing too hard !   :lmao:

Yeah, section 8 housing...the democrat/Obama plan to spread the slum/drug/crime problem around a little.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Carl on December 09, 2011, 04:11:16 PM
Trying to recapture the glory of his "My food was stolen" thread from a month or so ago.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Wineslob on December 09, 2011, 04:21:06 PM
 :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: BEG on December 09, 2011, 04:41:21 PM
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Fits in a couple of cloth bags

A must have for all good DUmmie bouncies, cloth bags.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Freeper on December 09, 2011, 04:49:36 PM
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I ordered them meatball subs and got them both drinks from the cooler. I spent $18.42 of my $20 bill. I'm the one who will be sucking down PB&J sandwiches this week, but that's OK.

You should have given them a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter then. Then you could have got a meatball sammich and they could eat pb and j for a week.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Chris_ on December 09, 2011, 04:51:02 PM
If that's how they think, no wonder government is broke.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: 67 Rover on December 09, 2011, 04:59:44 PM
Once again this is a rehash from an older bouncy right down to the "clean" part.  I am not sure how long ago I read it but it is almost word for word.

Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 09, 2011, 05:05:08 PM
Once again this is a rehash from an older bouncy right down to the "clean" part.  I am not sure how long ago I read it but it is almost word for word.



LSD flash back maybe?
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: 67 Rover on December 09, 2011, 05:06:46 PM
LSD flash back maybe?

If I recall correctly I believe the original bouncy was outside of a 7-11 or some quick mart type store.

Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: vesta111 on December 09, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
If I recall correctly I believe the original bouncy was outside of a 7-11 or some quick mart type store.



Interesting that the writer kept saying what good kids  they were.  Both had been living as adults with their MOTHER,  she had problems so they deserted her.  Soon as Mother could no longer / or would no longer support these free loading kids they took off to survive stealing clothing from a Charity dumpster.

Brother and sister my skinny ASS.   Good teeth means Mother paid big bucks for a dentist for the kids, paid for their medical health check ups and saw their shots were up to date.  Nothing was said about them carrying back packs or sleeping bags, however a point was made to mention the 2 cloth shopping bags the writer uses.

This good Samaritan never inquired where they would spend the night, did they have a car or just walking south open to the elements. So a small flash light was given to them to light their way through the woods to WHAT grandmas house??????

I wonder what happend to that turnip truck that writer fell off of.



 
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: franksolich on December 09, 2011, 07:06:25 PM
Once again this is a rehash from an older bouncy right down to the "clean" part.  I am not sure how long ago I read it but it is almost word for word.



Uh huh.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Carl on December 09, 2011, 07:25:36 PM
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DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)          Fri Nov-04-11 07:39 PM
 Original message
Had my groceries disappear out of my car on the way home.   
      

My two favorite no longer available Target bags, one canvas one burlap, bread, Swiss cheese, three Stonyfield 32 oz yogurts, bag of Almond Joy minis for my lunches this week, Olivio, foot long turkey and swiss sandwich from the deli for dinner tonight, corn muffins, pumpkin donuts, bananas, eggs, pancake syrup and a 12 pack of Lipton citrus tea. $44 worth of groceries in total. And the bags had the bread and eggs visible under the light where I was parked.

I work in a town where you don't really have to worry about stuff disappearing. I usually don't lock my doors where I get my lottery ticket, so I didn't tonight. There was a young guy in at the same time I was buying a candy bar, but with with change. Unkempt, and not clean looking. thin dirty jacket and skull rag on his head. He came in the back door almost simultaneously, went out the front into the area where I was parked after the cashier counted his change (OUT LOUD which was embarrassing as hell). He did not look like he was doing OK.


Got my ticket, yakked with the cashier a few, looked at the new Car and Driver, went out to the car, opened the door, and noticed the bags were gone off my passenger front seat. I thought for a couple of minutes, and let it go. Anyone who is hungry enough to steal groceries needs them way way more than I do.


I hope he enjoys the pumpkin donuts.......he needs them way way more than I do. And I hope he shares his good fortune with his friends or family. Even in one of the richest counties in America, we have a lot of people in need, but they get ignored.


Have a nice evening.
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Only 43 dollars this week.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Chris_ on December 09, 2011, 07:29:21 PM
Only 43 dollars this week.
That's more than I spend some weeks.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Tucker on December 09, 2011, 07:32:58 PM
The department of tall tales need to come up with a new outline for bouncies.

I don't want them to stop, just change the structure.

Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: longview on December 09, 2011, 07:35:18 PM
21 and 23 years old?  Maybe the problem that "mom" had was two adults mooching off her!
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: BattleHymn on December 09, 2011, 07:57:04 PM
A must have for all good DUmmie bouncies, cloth bags.

Also known as germ bags. 
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 09, 2011, 07:57:28 PM
This DUmbass was nominated for Top DUmmy, not Golden Bong, yet he puts all this effort into a ludicrous, laughable bouncy tale.

Bouncy credits do not carry over into the DUmmy of the Year category. How many times do we have to tell them that?

He has no chance for a bouncy award as a write-in.

We don't call 'em DUmmies for nothing.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Chris_ on December 09, 2011, 07:59:36 PM
Maybe he's warming up for '12.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: franksolich on December 09, 2011, 08:00:58 PM
Maybe he's warming up for '12.

You know, it is about this time last year--almost to the exact date--that the yenta began gearing up for '11.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Chris_ on December 09, 2011, 08:02:28 PM
You know, it is about this time last year--almost to the exact date--that the yenta began gearing up for '11.
I wonder what happened in 2010 that caused her to snap.  She'd been around the DUmp forever but never garnered much attention until now.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: franksolich on December 09, 2011, 08:04:50 PM
I wonder what happened in 2010 that caused her to snap.  She'd been around the DUmp forever but never garnered much attention until now.

I dunno.

It does seem that every December, when the top primitives contest is going on, more and more primitives heretofore unaware of our existence, become aware.

She probably just discovered us, and decided to make a big try for '10, and she did, but it wasn't nearly enough; just not enough time.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Chris_ on December 09, 2011, 08:05:02 PM
It's all about momentum.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 09, 2011, 08:08:50 PM
It's all about momentum.
And man, did she ever crank up the mo!

It will be very interesting to see how she dials it back after voting is over.

Win or lose, she can't keep it up forever.

Given the level of competition these days, a repeat is hard to imagine.

A three-peat is humanly impossible.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Tucker on December 09, 2011, 08:24:38 PM
And man, did she ever crank up the mo!

It will be very interesting to see how she dials it back after voting is over.

Win or lose, she can't keep it up forever.

Given the level of competition these days, a repeat is hard to imagine.

A three-peat is humanly impossible.

Well Pam went AWOL and Anne became a C&P queen, but for the most part, many winners of the top DUmmy award get served a cold pizza the ensuing year.

Maybe skimmer a waiting until after the award ceremony to 86 Nadin.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 09, 2011, 08:53:41 PM
I still can't quite compose myself !

I get a kick out of this statement.  All DUmmies live in affluent neighborhoods.  One day, go on the DUmp, google in their search box :

I live in an affluent neighborhood

You don't have to be a member to see the numerous DUmmies claiming to be well off.  Or acting like they are.

It's hilarious !


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Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: AprilRazz on December 09, 2011, 09:52:36 PM
Do these people record every supposed conversation they have or something? I couldn't tell you verbatim like that of a conversation that I had 5 minutes before.

Or they just make it all up.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: delilahmused on December 10, 2011, 01:24:12 AM
Oh, oh, oh...I have a real life capitalist bouncy that happened to me just tonight!!! It's perfect for this thread!

So, I went down to my little grocery store in Drain. Usually I like to go into the big city and shop and Winco and Costco because this store is too damned expensive. But I do love how politically incorrect they are. Every year at Christmas time the put this giant, beautifully tacky light up Nativity right smack dab outside the front of the store. Anyway, I just needed to get some meat for my dogs and some cranberry juice to mix with my lime vodka. Now, unfortunately there isn't going to be a cop in this story because you can see the city hall & sheriff's office from the parking lot of the grocery store and he must have been out driving around the county cuz his car wasn't there.

I got my stuff, chatted with Betty, the clerk who's probably been working there since the early 70's and started to leave. Well, I get outside and here's this little kid, couldn't be any older than 10. He's got a box full of mistletoe mixed with holly berries & tied with ribbon (my husband's at the casino playing poker & drinking...I'm saving this til he gets home) and these little cloth bags like you'd use to put treats in for a children's school CHRISTMAS party with some chocolates in them...he probably got the chocolates and the bags at the dollar store but he obviously took some time to put them together. On my way out he asks me if I want to buy some mistletoe or candy. He's selling each of them for a buck...kinda expensive but it's the American way! So, I ask him what are you selling them for? I figure it's some school something or other or some kind of church project, the kind adults walking out of a store are pretty much suckers for. No, the kid says, "I'm doing it for myself. I want some money." I bought 3 of each! Capitalistic greed is alive and well in small town America! Damn I love my life!

Cindie
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Tucker on December 10, 2011, 05:05:25 AM
Cindie.

At least you started out with a "So".

Great story BTW.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 10, 2011, 07:51:47 AM
Oh, oh, oh...I have a real life capitalist bouncy that happened to me just tonight!!! It's perfect for this thread!

 Anyway, I just needed to get some meat for my dogs and some cranberry juice to mix with my lime vodka.

Cindie


Ah, the important stuff for a fun Friday night! 

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Karin on December 12, 2011, 02:31:53 PM
Plus, cranberry juice is rich in antioxidants and vitamin C! 

That is a great story, and I would have bought a bunch myself. 
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: jukin on December 12, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
Sorry kids, I just spent all my spare change on a Model 686.

Merry Christmas to me. How did I know? It was just what I wanted.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Bondai on December 12, 2011, 04:54:36 PM
 :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :rotf:
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Tucker on December 12, 2011, 06:41:21 PM
Sorry kids, I just spent all my spare change on a Model 686.

Merry Christmas to me. How did I know? It was just what I wanted.

I have one of them.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Boudicca on December 12, 2011, 10:56:33 PM
Oh, oh, oh...I have a real life capitalist bouncy that happened to me just tonight!!! It's perfect for this thread!

So, I went down to my little grocery store in Drain. Usually I like to go into the big city and shop and Winco and Costco because this store is too damned expensive. But I do love how politically incorrect they are. Every year at Christmas time the put this giant, beautifully tacky light up Nativity right smack dab outside the front of the store. Anyway, I just needed to get some meat for my dogs and some cranberry juice to mix with my lime vodka. Now, unfortunately there isn't going to be a cop in this story because you can see the city hall & sheriff's office from the parking lot of the grocery store and he must have been out driving around the county cuz his car wasn't there.

I got my stuff, chatted with Betty, the clerk who's probably been working there since the early 70's and started to leave. Well, I get outside and here's this little kid, couldn't be any older than 10. He's got a box full of mistletoe mixed with holly berries & tied with ribbon (my husband's at the casino playing poker & drinking...I'm saving this til he gets home) and these little cloth bags like you'd use to put treats in for a children's school CHRISTMAS party with some chocolates in them...he probably got the chocolates and the bags at the dollar store but he obviously took some time to put them together. On my way out he asks me if I want to buy some mistletoe or candy. He's selling each of them for a buck...kinda expensive but it's the American way! So, I ask him what are you selling them for? I figure it's some school something or other or some kind of church project, the kind adults walking out of a store are pretty much suckers for. No, the kid says, "I'm doing it for myself. I want some money." I bought 3 of each! Capitalistic greed is alive and well in small town America! Damn I love my life!

Cindie

 :rotf: Good for you.
Little dude better be watching out so he doesn't end up with a fine for selling without a license.

Just finished reading Mark Steyn's After America, and there's a part in there about the little old church ladies who can't sell their homemade pies at the bazaar any more unless they get their kitchens inspected and approved by the local health commissar. :whatever:

It's a great book; but I fear he's preaching to the choir.  The people who need to read it never will.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 13, 2011, 05:33:07 AM
This Christmas season we should all bend just a little and be more giving like liberal democrats...throw half eaten cheeseburgers in the DUmpters for the poor.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Tucker on December 13, 2011, 06:20:50 AM
This Christmas season we should all bend just a little and be more giving like liberal democrats...throw half eaten cheeseburgers in the DUmpters for the poor.

If I donated/gave like democrats, I'd never have to give anything.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Gina on December 13, 2011, 07:19:59 AM
Wasn't this the same guy that had groceries stolen out of his car? 

Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Tucker on December 13, 2011, 07:26:31 AM
Wasn't this the same guy that had groceries stolen out of his car?  



That was DainBramaged, who has me on iggy.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Karin on December 13, 2011, 07:32:28 AM
Yes, he's forever telling stories about food and the poor.  It's his schtick. 

In this neck of the woods, the Amish got an exemption from those Health dept. inspection rules.  They fight like crazy, those Amish.  The ladies can now sell pies and bread on the side of the road.  I always buy, never been sick.  How in the world did our ancestors survive to have all of us, I'll never know. 

I'd like to ask those health dept. nazis, when they bitch up a storm about my handsoap being placed *just so,* "Where were you when people were shitting all over Zucotti Park?"   
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Rebel on December 13, 2011, 07:46:48 AM
Yeah, section 8 housing...the democrat/Obama plan to spread the slum/drug/crime problem around a little.

They're trying to build the 3rd shithole here:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Say-No-to-Magnolia-Trace-Housing-Project/283405961704711

BTW:

"Fits in a couple of cloth bags"

Cloth bags? Ever wonder why they feel the need to get in their loony-lib street cred with every post? Who tap dances around everything they post here? No one. There? It's cult-like.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Paul Heinzman on December 13, 2011, 07:58:00 AM
21 and 23 years old?  Maybe the problem that "mom" had was two adults mooching off her!

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: NHSparky on December 13, 2011, 08:19:32 AM
Cloth bags? Ever wonder why they feel the need to get in their loony-lib street cred with every post? Who tap dances around everything they post here? No one. There? It's cult-like.

I bought a couple of those "reusable" bags.  About all I ever use them for are runs to BJ's since I really don't like trying to later dispose of cumbersome boxes, and to hold the emergency kit for my car (tool bag, jumper cables, rain slicker, couple of MRE's, hat, and gloves.)

I need those plastic grocery bags.  Cats pee and poop.  A LOT.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Karin on December 13, 2011, 09:26:57 AM
I don't know what I'd do without them, Sparky.  There's a town in CA that banned them.  What on earth do the pet owners do? 

What's annoying are the signs in the grocery stores:  "Did you remember your reusable bag?????"  Same as the little hotel signs:  "You don't really want us to waste the precious planet's resources to wash your towels, do you???????" 

Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 13, 2011, 11:02:30 AM
I need those plastic grocery bags.  Cats pee and poop.  A LOT.

That's exactly why we keep 'em.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: delilahmused on December 13, 2011, 11:36:06 AM
I bought a couple of those "reusable" bags.  About all I ever use them for are runs to BJ's since I really don't like trying to later dispose of cumbersome boxes, and to hold the emergency kit for my car (tool bag, jumper cables, rain slicker, couple of MRE's, hat, and gloves.)

I need those plastic grocery bags.  Cats pee and poop.  A LOT.

I use my reusable bags about half the time...need the plastic bags for the same reason you do. But I love my reusable bags. They have special pockets for wine bottles. Makes it nice cuz they don't rattle around. And another for newspapers and magazines. I hate it when my magazines get mushered. They're huge, thick (like oil cloth) and purty! I've got some that have chickens on them and others with flowers. They look kinda like this: (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kGMnXPIXL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Cindie
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 13, 2011, 11:56:55 AM
Speaking of food, but a little off-subject, I  wonder how long before the DUmbasses start talking about Wendy's naming a new sandwich the "W".
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Karin on December 13, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
Oh they'll throw a fit, and use that stupid puking smiley all over the place.  The thing that's stupid about that smiley, is it starts off smiling a benign smile.  Then, its mouth fills up, blowing the cheeks out.  Then it spews, then it's back to a benign smile.  No design effort, no artistry, no expression.  I thought the DUmmies valued the artistic community.  Why use trash like this? 

I'm sure a lurker will look into that W sandwich. 
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: Tucker on December 13, 2011, 02:19:08 PM
Speaking of food, but a little off-subject, I  wonder how long before the DUmbasses start talking about Wendy's naming a new sandwich the "W".

And how soon before someone mentions that it's all pork.
Title: Re: "Can you spare any change for food?"
Post by: jtyangel on December 13, 2011, 04:05:09 PM
I'm with Cindie...I like them, just because. I don't use mine for groceries though. They make good totes for just about anything else and they are cheap. Even the really humungo ones now can be got for a 1.50(if that). I like the little bags for dog doo, little garbage can liners, and while I'm baking or cooking and just require a small bag hanging from the drawer for a quick dump of food scraps or food wrappings as I go.