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Title: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: dutch508 on December 07, 2011, 06:15:32 PM
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taterguy   (1000+ posts)             Sat Jun-04-11 11:34 AM
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Question: Were the bodies of any Japanese pilots recovered after the Pearl Harbor attack?
   

 
If not, how are we so sure that it wasn't German pilots flying planes in Japanese markings?

The Germans had a history of doing that sort of thing. They painted tanks with Polish insignia to justify their invasion of that country.

Hitler knew that as a practical matter he was already at war with the United States and that his only chance was to neutralize the U.S. before they could re-arm. Unlike Japan, Germany had already exchanged fire with the U.S. when a U-boat was attacked by an American destroyer.

The U.S. navy was frantically building ships and Hitler knew his U-boats only had a few months where they could safely attack U.S. shipping. (Attacks off the East Coast stopped seven months after Pearl Harbor).

So why are we so smug in our denunciation of Blutarsky?

Isn't there a possibility that he was right all along?

Why say you?

Well, I am pretty sure this idiot is just making fun of the dungeon, but... then... the next in line spouts forth:

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HopeHoops   (1000+ posts)           Sat Jun-04-11 11:41 AM
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1. If I remember correctly, the Zero's range was pretty much Japan to Hawaii.
   
It was a suicide run from the beginning because they couldn't have returned without running out of fuel shortly into the rebound side of the trip.

I'm pretty sure Germany didn't have anything that small with a range much greater than that either.

As for Bluto - "LET'S DO IT!!!!!"

I would hope that hoops got Doolittle and Japan mixed up...

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taterguy   (1000+ posts)             Sun Jun-05-11 09:23 AM
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36. The greatest cover-up of all-time is not cute
   
We're dealing with some serious shit here.

 :o maybe tater is series!?

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HopeHoops   (1000+ posts)           Sun Jun-05-11 09:03 AM
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34. I honestly had no memory of aircraft carriers being involved in that.
   
It's been a while since I read anything about WW-II history - like probably the mid 80's.

DUmbass.

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drm604   (1000+ posts)             Sat Jun-04-11 11:43 AM
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2. If this is a serious question
   
my response would be that there were Japanese casualties at Pearl Harbor plus the Japanese have never tried to deny it.

Sometimes it is hard to tell if the monkiez are being teh series!!!

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taterguy   (1000+ posts)             Sat Jun-04-11 11:54 AM
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4. Where are the bodies?

um.... :mental:

Of course, this was all a joke. really.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x316182

still got moved to the dungeon.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: Duke Nukum on December 07, 2011, 07:07:21 PM
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taterguy   (1000+ posts)             Sat Jun-04-11 11:54 AM
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4. Where are the bodies?

Jeb Bush's Ice Truck service.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: dandi on December 07, 2011, 07:15:01 PM
Jeb Bush's Ice Truck service.


"......Proudly serving your war, natural disaster, and false flag operation needs since 1941."
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: dutch508 on December 07, 2011, 07:43:19 PM
Japanese on the grassy knoll. Film at eleven!
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 07, 2011, 07:46:47 PM
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HopeHoops   (1000+ posts)           Sun Jun-05-11 09:03 AM
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34. I honestly had no memory of aircraft carriers being involved in that.
   
It's been a while since I read anything about WW-II history - like probably the mid 80's.
Incredible!! Someone approaching poor, stupid Beth on the stupid scale.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: Skul on December 07, 2011, 07:50:55 PM
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taterguy   (1000+ posts)             Sat Jun-04-11 11:54 AM
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4. Where are the bodies?

WTC cellar.
Go for it, mashedtater for brains.

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HopeHoops   (1000+ posts)           Sun Jun-05-11 09:03 AM
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34. I honestly had no memory of aircraft carriers being involved in that.  
It's been a while since I read anything about WW-II history - like probably the mid 80's.
I hope you're being a regular smartass instead of a DUmbass.  But, I repeat myself.
Perfect example of what drugs do to the mind.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: diesel driver on December 07, 2011, 07:57:38 PM
The HopeFloats (and so does SHIT) DUmmie needs to read more and post less.

It's better to remain silent and let people think you a fool, than to speak and remove all doubts.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: NHSparky on December 07, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
(http://mikuchan.org/miku/src/132174445738.jpg)
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: Mike220 on December 07, 2011, 11:09:10 PM
DUmmie lurkers that are hanging out here, take this back to the hive...

Google the Niihau Incident.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 08, 2011, 05:53:21 AM
DUmmie lurkers that are hanging out here, take this back to the hive...

Google the Niihau Incident.

That was just one lost, student pilot with a messed up compass that was killed by  overly patriotic, brainwashed ugly Americans.... :whatever:

Hey, DUmmies have their own interpretation of Newtons Law.

For every fact there is a stupid, untrue response, equal and in the oppsite direction.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: FlaGator on December 08, 2011, 07:47:39 AM
HopeHoops needs to spend a couple hours watching Tora Tora Tora.

The Zero's range was Japan to Hawaii   :stoner:
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: diesel driver on December 08, 2011, 09:00:15 AM
HopeHoops needs to spend a couple hours watching Tora Tora Tora.

The Zero's range was Japan to Hawaii   :stoner:

Not quite.

The Mitsubishi Zero had a range of a little over 3,000 miles.

Japan is 4,000 miles from Hawaii.

To quote Maxwell Smart:  "Missed by THAT much!"
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: Tucker on December 08, 2011, 09:23:43 AM
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taterguy   (1000+ posts)             Sat Jun-04-11 11:34 AM
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Question: Were the bodies of any Japanese pilots recovered after the Pearl Harbor attack?

This was about the same time that taterguy T-Boned a car backing out of his driveway and destroyed his tricycle. That might explain a little of his insanity. Not much, but a little.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 08, 2011, 10:57:04 AM
Smarter than you.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: dutch508 on December 08, 2011, 11:04:05 AM
Not quite.

The Mitsubishi Zero had a range of a little over 3,000 miles.

Japan is 4,000 miles from Hawaii.

To quote Maxwell Smart:  "Missed by THAT much!"

not to mention, the zero was a fighter, not a dive bomber nor a torpedo bomber.

Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: 67 Rover on December 08, 2011, 11:17:23 AM
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taterguy   (1000+ posts)             Sat Jun-04-11 11:34 AM
Original message
Question: Were the bodies of any Japanese pilots recovered after the Pearl Harbor attack?
   

 
If not, how are we so sure that it wasn't German pilots flying planes in Japanese markings?

The Germans had a history of doing that sort of thing. They painted tanks with Polish insignia to justify their invasion of that country.

Hitler knew that as a practical matter he was already at war with the United States and that his only chance was to neutralize the U.S. before they could re-arm. Unlike Japan, Germany had already exchanged fire with the U.S. when a U-boat was attacked by an American destroyer.  

The U.S. navy was frantically building ships and Hitler knew his U-boats only had a few months where they could safely attack U.S. shipping. (Attacks off the East Coast stopped seven months after Pearl Harbor).

So why are we so smug in our denunciation of Blutarsky?

Isn't there a possibility that he was right all along?

Why say you?


That was my dad's ship!  The DD147 USS Roper a four stacker, first recorded sinking of a U boat off the US coast.  There was even a bit of controversy to the story as the Captain stopped to pick up survivors and during the rescue operation a radio call came in about another U-boat in the area.  The Captain immediately suspended the rescue operation and while getting under way they had sucked quite a few German sailors into the screws who were waiting for rescue.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: blitzkrieg_17 on December 08, 2011, 12:18:49 PM
So the Germans really did bomb Pearl Harbor.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: Skul on December 08, 2011, 12:52:52 PM
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taterguy   (1000+ posts)             Sat Jun-04-11 11:34 AM
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>snipage<
The U.S. navy was frantically building ships and Hitler knew his U-boats only had a few months where they could safely attack U.S. shipping. (Attacks off the East Coast stopped seven months after Pearl Harbor).
>snipage again<
You aren't too smart, are ya spudnuts? :banghead:
Perhaps the lad needs to Naddle it.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: FlaGator on December 09, 2011, 11:40:32 AM
Not quite.

The Mitsubishi Zero had a range of a little over 3,000 miles.

Japan is 4,000 miles from Hawaii.

To quote Maxwell Smart:  "Missed by THAT much!"

That whole return trip becomes a problem though. I'm not sure they were ready to start the kamikaze stunt at that point.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 09, 2011, 12:10:35 PM
Reference I saw listed Zero range as 3000 kilometers, less than 2000 miles.

And it was a fighter; it did not carry torpedos.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: 67 Rover on December 09, 2011, 01:25:50 PM
In my best Guiness stout voice " hey let's build a plane out of Magnesium!"  "Brilliant!"
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 09, 2011, 04:11:14 PM
In my best Guiness stout voice " hey let's build a plane out of Magnesium!"  "Brilliant!"

Hey, I had some model airplanes that were half magnesium....and they were "brilliant" when they crashed and burned.

...and today on TV, I watched the movie "1941". First time I've ever seen it. I think that movie is where the DUmmies learned all about WW2.
Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: diesel driver on December 09, 2011, 07:46:17 PM
Reference I saw listed Zero range as 3000 kilometers, less than 2000 miles.

And it was a fighter; it did not carry torpedos.

You're right!  DUH!!!!! :thatsright:

Title: Re: "As I remember it..." DUmp monkey gets it wrong again... or does she?
Post by: Chris_ on December 09, 2011, 07:50:26 PM
I thought the Zeroes that hit Pearl Harbor were launched from carriers in the Pacific, not from the mainland (Japan).  The Japanese had attacked Wake Island the same time as the the Pearl Harbor attack was carried out, but that never seems to get reported much.