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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on December 06, 2011, 10:28:14 PM
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One of coach's favorite DUmbasses has made the world a better place. Damn it! He told you he was sick! Wileynumbers has bitten the dust. :
earthboundmisfit (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-06-11 08:43 PM
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DUer Wiley50 has passed away.
DUer Wiley50 - Wiley White - has passed away. His son emailed me yesterday that Wiley died Nov. 28. Didn't elaborate as to cause, though he had been very ill the last few years. I hadn't heard from Wiley in a long time but last I heard he was trying to get his boat fixed up so he could travel.
I met Wiley about 35 years ago with the Rainbow Family when a group he was traveling with came through Oklahoma.
He was someone who had a good heart - lots of problems, but a good heart nonetheless. We lost track of each other over the years until a few years ago I saw a post from "Wiley50" here on DU - and sure enough it was him. Wiley had a rough life, physical and emotional troubles and pain, and I wish him good travels now that he is free.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2438240
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Condolences to his family.
Sounds like he was a typical DUmmy though in life so hopefully he sorted out what he was lacking before he passed.
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His family and loved ones will be in my thoughts and prayers.
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Condolences to his family.
Sounds like he was a typical DUmmy though in life so hopefully he sorted out what he was lacking before he passed.
Same here.
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Sounds like he was a typical DUmmy though in life so hopefully he sorted out what he was lacking before he passed.
Not likely.
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Not likely.
Yup. But it does sound like he was so miserable in life that death was a release, and perhaps his family can draw some solace from that.
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On this particular thread I will defer to my wise old mother again.
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On this particular thread I will defer to my wise old mother again.
My Momma too.
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I just think it's a pretty damn cynical way for a DUmmy to influence the vote.
If wileynumbers and Redstone win, one can hope that next year all the candidates will go this route.
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I just think it's a pretty damn cynical way for a DUmmy to influence the vote.
If wileynumbers and Redstone win, one can hope that next year all the candidates will go this route.
:hi5:
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I just think it's a pretty damn cynical way for a DUmmy to influence the vote.
If wileynumbers and Redstone win, one can hope that next year all the candidates will go this route.
The other name I came up with was too long. I've revised it to "The Dirt Nap Award," but I'm still open for suggestions.
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The other name I came up with was too long. I've revised it to "The Dirt Nap Award," but I'm still open for suggestions.
I saw your earlier comment somewhere else; I think in the voting thread.
It's under consideration.
The primitives have for years begged my fellow alum Skins to have some sort of "memorial" place for primitives who've departed this vale of tears, but thus far Skins has been deaf to their pleas.
It is likely the DUmpster'll get on this before Skins does, if Skins ever does.
The worthless freeloading bum the wily primitive was a classic primitive, but only a great one, not a Great one like the late Chief S itting Bull.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x265263
Need to point this out.
Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-24-11 09:29 PM
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I've Been Missing for 6 months third try at Cure
This was my last chance, I had tried twice before.
Liver biopsy in 91 was Stage two, tried but was too busy trying to save my home from foreclosure to incapacitate myself like that
Second try, in 2006 ended with no sleep, food,or drink and dry heaving for 9 days before I hit the Emergency room.
Another Liver Biopsy last summer. Doctor gave me 6-8 years to live without completing treatment
Stage Four they start digging a hole to put you i, as that is all they can do for you.
Third attempt, I told my doctor's I wanted to use pot, even though I don't live in a Med Pot state, they looked the other way.
I MADE IT! I MADE IT! I MADE IT!
never had anything worse than semi-constant mild to sometimes moderate nausea. Big difference from last time.
Baseline (before therapy) viral count was over 12 million of those little virus' in every milliliter of my blood.
2 weeks after starting treatment, viral load blood test came back " NO VIRUS FOUND and every 2 week blood test came back thew same way.
so my treatment has a strong remission so far
5 months from now, if it still comes back, NO VIRUS FOUND
I"M CURED!
PS, anyone got a 1 ton dually with a big engine and a ball hitch that would pull my 28 ft sailboat from Nashville to the California Delta (back Bay between around August 1st or I will arrive there without my home. I'm being evicted because the people who own the land I'm on worry about me wintering in an uninsulated sailboat, when I've got snug electric heat with a gas back up. Oh Well, I have little contact with them anyway and my kids arere out there
The inability to think clearly and rationally because of drug use did in the Wiley character.
Next time you're in a public men's room taking a leak and look down and notice the image of obama on a red plastic screen with a message that reads "Don't do drugs", give it some serious thought.
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earthboundmisfit (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-06-11 08:43 PM
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DUer Wiley50 has passed away.
DUer Wiley50 - Wiley White - has passed away. His son emailed me yesterday that Wiley died Nov. 28. Didn't elaborate as to cause, though he had been very ill the last few years. I hadn't heard from Wiley in a long time but last I heard he was trying to get his boat fixed up so he could travel.
I met Wiley about 35 years ago with the Rainbow Family when a group he was traveling with came through Oklahoma.
He was someone who had a good heart - lots of problems, but a good heart nonetheless. We lost track of each other over the years until a few years ago I saw a post from "Wiley50" here on DU - and sure enough it was him. Wiley had a rough life, physical and emotional troubles and pain, and I wish him good travels now that he is free.
Growing up in Colorado we used to see those Rainbow Family derelicts everywhere, they would hitchhike from town to town and mootch whatever they could without ever offering to work for their keep. I have heard that they still have a large presence in New Mexico.
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Growing up in Colorado we used to see those Rainbow Family derelicts everywhere, they would hitchhike from town to town and mootch whatever they could without ever offering to work for their keep. I have heard that they still have a large presence in New Mexico.
For the benefit of CC as a whole, just what is a Rainbow Family?
I didn't Nadin it.
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For the benefit of CC as a whole, just what is a Rainbow Family?
I didn't Nadin it.
It's an offshoot of the famous "Be In" at San Francisco during the heyday of the hippies.
I nadined it.
The Rainbow Family of Living Light (commonly shortened to the Rainbow Family) is a loosely affiliated group of individuals committed to principles of non-violence and egalitarianism. They put on events known as Rainbow Gatherings.
The Rainbow Family was founded in 1968 as an extension of the Human Be-In in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. Since 1972, the Family has been holding their annual Gatherings in National Forests during the first week of July each year. Regional Gatherings are also held throughout the year in the United States, as are national and regional gatherings in dozens of other countries.
These Gatherings are non-commercial, and all who wish to attend peacefully are welcome to participate. There are no leaders, and traditionally the Gatherings last for a week in length, with the primary focus being on the Fourth of July in the U.S., when attendees pray, meditate, and/or observe silence in a group effort to focus on World Peace. Thus, the name Rainbow Family of Living Light. Most gatherings elsewhere in the world last a month from new moon to new moon, with the full moon being the peak celebration. Rainbow Gatherings emphasize welcoming people of all races, religions, ethnicities, and social status, with the common thread being a spiritual focus towards peace, love, and unity.
Those who attend Rainbow Gatherings come from all walks of life, and work together on a variety of goals, among which are intentional communities, ecology, spirituality, and an expanded tolerance for others. Attendees refer to one another as Rainbows, or often as Brother or Sister to help reinforce the emphasis upon their belief system that all people are not only related as part of the human race, but as members of a family, and should thus be given the respect deserved in such a relationship.
Group Councils, the only form of government, are held regularly, with attendance being open to all interested parties and decisions being reached through consensus. Further, money is never exchanged at Rainbow Gatherings. Instead, everything that you need is free, and anything you want can be obtained in barter - usually at Trade Circle. Someone holding a magic hat walks around (usually with others playing musical instruments and singing) and collects donations to buy supplies for main supply.
As the peaceful and egalitarian practices of the Rainbow Family often set it apart from the many cultures outside of each gathering, the area within has become known to participants as "Rainbowland" for the duration of each event. In critical contrast to this, the world outside of gatherings is referred to as "Babylon."
The imbibing of alcohol (often viewed as a substance that encourages violence and disharmony) is highly frowned upon within Rainbowland. Thus, at U.S. gatherings, drinking is most often limited to the first camp, known as "A Camp," found just past the main entrance of each gathering. However, other recreational drugs are tolerated within the main camp.
The organization is a loose international affiliation of individuals who have a common goal of trying to achieve peace and love on Earth. Those who participate in, or sympathize with, the activities of this group sometimes refer to the group simply as the "Family." Rainbow Family participants make the claim that their group is the "largest non-organization of non-members in the world." In addition to referring to itself as a non-organization, the group's "non-members" also even playfully call the group a "disorganization."
There are no official leaders or structure, no official spokespersons, and no formalized membership. Strictly speaking, the only goals are set by each individual, as no individual can claim to represent all Rainbows in word or deed. Also contained within the domain of Rainbow Family philosophy are the ideals of creating an intentional community, showing respect for indigenous peoples and culture, practicing ecology and environmentalism, embodying spirituality and conscious evolution, and practicing non-commercialism.
All Rainbow Gatherings are held with an open invitation to people of all walks of life, and of all beliefs, to share experiences, love, dance, music, food, and learning.
The Rainbow Family is most widely known for its large annual American Gatherings (i.e. U.S. "Nationals" or "Annuals") which are held on U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management (or "B.L.M.") land. These U.S. Annual Gatherings usually attract between 10,000 and 25,000 participants.
In addition to these larger U.S. Annuals, the Rainbow Family also holds Gatherings throughout the year in dozens of other countries. "World Gatherings" are also held from time to time in various countries. Other Rainbow Family activities include regional Gatherings (or Regionals) and retreats. There are also small, local activities such as local drum circles, potlucks, music related events, and campouts.
The Forest Service Incident Management team cost federal taxpayers $750,000 in 2006, and the team handled the Gathering in Colorado that year and other large events in National Forests. By comparison, the Burning Man festival, unconnected to the Rainbow Family, is a commercial venture that operates each year in the Black Rock Desert of Nevada, pays the Bureau of Land Management $750,000 for a permit, and recoups the cost by charging attendees between $210 and $360.
The environmental impact of the Rainbow Family is often significant; easily overwhelming the meager resources available at most National Forest campgrounds.
Members of the Rainbow Family have previously used nearby medical facilities and have left significant bills unpaid, as well as costing local animal control agencies who treated parvovirus amongst the dogs at the Rainbow Gathering in 2006. Though the Rainbow Family removes its trash after a gathering, the Forest Service has criticized their cleanup efforts as being only "cosmetic" and "not rehabilitation by any stretch of the imagination." Cleanup crews have had to bury compost piles and cover fire pits.
In July 2011 a woman, Marie Hanson, went missing in Washington State after attending a Rainbow Gathering event. The local Sheriff's office reportedly refused to use tracking dogs at the site, stating they were not sure a crime had taken place. In October 2011, human remains and jewelry were found near the woman's campsite.
Just a bunch of worthless hippies in it for the drugs and sex, nothing more than that.
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For the benefit of CC as a whole, just what is a Rainbow Family?
I didn't Nadin it.
GEEEEEZ, give a man a break, When push comes to shove were anyone in my family to need Chemo and they were literally starving to death, I would be the first out on the street looking for any drug legal or not to help them.
Story here, granddad told me about a WW1 vet up the street that has some kind of painfull Cancer. He lived a normal life until the drug act was put in place. No more Morphine for him. The last 2-3 months were a living hell for him and family, his pain so great he kept everyone awake at night with his screams for someone to shoot him.
Neighbors would smuggle in outlawed Alcohol, Morphine and keep him drunk, he and they got to sleep.
Orphan drugs those that make little money, darn if your child needed them but could not get them, watch your child suffer and die when you knew there was something out there to help ease their agony.
Get real, it does not matter if your child is one year old or 60 years old, to watch them die in pain is horrific. If I live long enough to have a child that age and believed they could overcome pain by visiting an Opium Den, I would be there as soon as the place opened with cash in hand, dieing child by my side.
Comes a time in some lives when one must question the rules, laws, and family traditions. We are human and
God gave us the mental ability to question all, even Him Self.
Lesson learned by me is that Family comes first before any laws, traditions or -----as we have seen the faith healers that depend on God to heal the ill.
What ever happend to free will from God, did God ever tell us we must follow man made laws and watch as our children of any age die????? Did God ever say we must bow down before tradition, laws of the land and not try to protect our children, a gift from God however they turn out.
Balderdash, as a mother I would risk anything, jail or death to help my sick kids at any time. I will not help them to break the law as a healthy individual, but when it comes to illness leading to death, Yup I would force apricot pits up their ass and try out that Peyote plant. Desperation you see, God gave us the ability to think and act outside the box, then there are what Science cannot explain medical recovery's.
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GEEEEEZ, give a man a break, When push comes to shove were anyone in my family to need Chemo and they were literally starving to death, I would be the first out on the street looking for any drug legal or not to help them.
Story here, granddad told me about a WW1 vet up the street that has some kind of painfull Cancer. He lived a normal life until the drug act was put in place. No more Morphine for him. The last 2-3 months were a living hell for him and family, his pain so great he kept everyone awake at night with his screams for someone to shoot him.
Neighbors would smuggle in outlawed Alcohol, Morphine and keep him drunk, he and they got to sleep.
Orphan drugs those that make little money, darn if your child needed them but could not get them, watch your child suffer and die when you knew there was something out there to help ease their agony.
Get real, it does not matter if your child is one year old or 60 years old, to watch them die in pain is horrific. If I live long enough to have a child that age and believed they could overcome pain by visiting an Opium Den, I would be there as soon as the place opened with cash in hand, dieing child by my side.
Comes a time in some lives when one must question the rules, laws, and family traditions. We are human and
God gave us the mental ability to question all, even Him Self.
Lesson learned by me is that Family comes first before any laws, traditions or -----as we have seen the faith healers that depend on God to heal the ill.
What ever happend to free will from God, did God ever tell us we must follow man made laws and watch as our children of any age die????? Did God ever say we must bow down before tradition, laws of the land and not try to protect our children, a gift from God however they turn out.
Balderdash, as a mother I would risk anything, jail or death to help my sick kids at any time. I will not help them to break the law as a healthy individual, but when it comes to illness leading to death, Yup I would force apricot pits up their ass and try out that Peyote plant. Desperation you see, God gave us the ability to think and act outside the box, then there are what Science cannot explain medical recovery's.
I have no idea what this has to do with my wanting to know what the Rainbow Family is.
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If I were a member of the Rainbow Family, I'd be pissed the the faggot party usurped their symbol.
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If I were a member of the Rainbow Family, I'd be pissed the the faggot party usurped their symbol.
If you were a member of the Rainbow Family, you'd have to have a month of detox and high-protein nutrition before you realized it had even happened.
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If you were a member of the Rainbow Family, you'd have to have a month of detox and high-protein nutrition before you realized it had even happened.
Good one, sir.
Awesome.
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Need to point this out.
The inability to think clearly and rationally because of drug use did in the Wiley character.
Next time you're in a public men's room taking a leak and look down and notice the image of obama on a red plastic screen with a message that reads "Don't do drugs", give it some serious thought.
what exactly was he talking about? did he have hep c?
edit...quoted the wrong post, meant to reply to wiley's description of his treatment post not yours tucker.
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what exactly was he talking about? did he have hep c?
edit...quoted the wrong post, meant to reply to wiley's description of his treatment post not yours tucker.
See post 12.
And if you haven't voted, consider Redstone for the Willie and very important to vote for W8liftinglady somewhere for DOTY.
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what exactly was he talking about? did he have hep c?
edit...quoted the wrong post, meant to reply to wiley's description of his treatment post not yours tucker.
One of the worthless freeloading bum the wily primitive's longest-running sagas was his attempt to collect workmen's compensation for an injury allegedly suffered on the job.
The problem was, as he was working sub rosa, under the table for cash, so that the child-support authorities wouldn't catch him, he had no work record, and thus no recourse for workmen's compensation.
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I have no idea what this has to do with my wanting to know what the Rainbow Family is.
Don`t give it a thought,like a Kewpie doll when you let go of the string,a series of disjointed thoughts in Vestas mind just have to spit out somewhere.
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Ok, well I tried to decipher that jumbled up mess of a post and I'm still not getting it. Or just not believing his story. If his liver was that shot (Stage 2? as in cancer?) he would not have been given therapy for Hep C. Period.
Guess it doesn't qualify as a bouncy now, does it?
Off to vote :naughty:
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Ok, well I tried to decipher that jumbled up mess of a post and I'm still not getting it. Or just not believing his story. If his liver was that shot (Stage 2? as in cancer?) he would not have been given therapy for Hep C. Period.
Guess it doesn't qualify as a bouncy now, does it?
Off to vote :naughty:
Keep Redstone and W8liftinglady in your thoughts.
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Keep Redstone and W8liftinglady in your thoughts.
ummm. yeah. :lol: