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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on December 05, 2011, 11:11:15 AM
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Yeah, it's that time of the year when the crazies at DU blame everyone else about who's fault Pearl Harbor was:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x303452
Not worth the effort to post the OP.
unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-07-10 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
2. American Presidents have been lying the US into wars
for at least a century.
After the Manifest Destiny and the Open Door Policy wars, we've been busy invading and killing 'the savages'.
Ginto (439 posts) Tue Dec-07-10 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. Pearl Harbor was a military target.
What exactly were Hiroshima and Nagasaki again? The shameful pride taken in that war always amazes me.
Troll.
immune (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-08-10 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #99
100. Well gee,
if the "krauts" wanted to dominate the world, why didn't they bring their war of domination to US soil and kill Americans instead of the other way around? We are the world, after all. Everybody knows that.
There is too much stupid in that one post.
Ginto (439 posts) Tue Dec-07-10 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #29
42. So "love it or leave it?"
I've tried to move to various countries, but it's either not economically feasible or the immigration policies make it impossible
that is too funny.
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Pearl Harbor was a military target.
What exactly were Hiroshima and Nagasaki again? The shameful pride taken in that war always amazes me.
Ah, that's why they also bombed parts of Honolulu. Silly me.
And yes, there were targets of military value in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Perhaps you could explain to me what the military targets were when the Japanese launched their fire balloon (Fu-Go) attacks? Or when they shelled Oxnard in 1942? Or when they summarily executed civilians by the thousands, hell, HUNDREDS of thousands?
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Ginto (439 posts) Tue Dec-07-10 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #29
42. So "love it or leave it?"
I've tried to move to various countries, but it's either not economically feasible or the immigration policies make it impossible
Funny, but every country but US has very restrictive immigration policies to keep out the dredges of society.
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Ah, that's why they also bombed parts of Honolulu. Silly me.
And yes, there were targets of military value in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Perhaps you could explain to me what the military targets were when the Japanese launched their fire balloon (Fu-Go) attacks? Or when they shelled Oxnard in 1942? Or when they summarily executed civilians by the thousands, hell, HUNDREDS of thousands?
Yup--the poor civilians below were being buried alive.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Chinese_civilians_to_be_buried_alive.jpg)
This man was beheaded, obviously.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Chinese_head%2C_Nanking_massacre.JPG/220px-Chinese_head%2C_Nanking_massacre.JPG)
This rape victim was . . . well, the picture tells the story.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Nanjing_Massacre_rape_killed.jpg/220px-Nanjing_Massacre_rape_killed.jpg)
All civilians.
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The Japanese had no problems bombing the shit out of cities when they had the capability, the original reason for the Flying Tigers was to interdict them from doing exactly that. They Imperial forces also had no problem slaughtering civilians and noncombatants by the hundred thousand on the ground, and Nanking and Manila attest. The two A-bomb attacks saved millions of Japanese and probably hundreds of thousands of Allied military personnel from death, they really were the lesser of the two evils in the available alternatives for ending the war.
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-07-10 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
2. American Presidents have been lying the US into wars
for at least a century.
After the Manifest Destiny and the Open Door Policy wars, we've been busy invading and killing 'the savages'.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_io3Q-rUp0k0/SRT-JjKa5LI/AAAAAAAAAvY/23MSr0crqVM/s400/aw_jeez_not_this_shit_again.jpg)
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Stupid is really strong! :mental: Bush was not even born when Pearl Harbor happened. They are so stuck on stupid. :mental: :bird:
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Stupid is really strong! :mental: Bush was not even born when Pearl Harbor happened. They are so stuck on stupid. :mental: :bird:
Lord Rove, the VRWC Time Bandits Division, and the BFEE have been at this a long time.
(Wait until the DUmbshits find out that the 2nd and 3rd Crusades were really orchestrated by Lord Rove) :-D
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What the USA and her allies did during WWII was RIGHTEOUS. The Axis powers asked for the grief they got, and while innocent civilians always get hurt or killed in wars, I'd always much later it be the enemy's civilians than ours. No way should anyone in this country feel guilty for doing what it took to win the war, and if only the military was still allowed to, oh, fight an actual war instead of being hampered by hand wringing politicos and wacked out libs, we'd have won 'Nam and been out of Afghanistan and Iraq by now.
Most victor nations would have ground the Germans and Japanese neck deep in the morass of defeat. We spent billions of dollars to rehabilitate them.
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Stupid is really strong! :mental: Bush was not even born when Pearl Harbor happened. They are so stuck on stupid. :mental: :bird:
They get stuck on the much-elder Bush, who divested himself from all Nazi ties once he found out what was going on.
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-07-10 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
2. American Presidents have been lying the US into wars
for at least a century.
After the Manifest Destiny and the Open Door Policy wars, we've been busy invading and killing 'the savages'.
Yeah, actually they are pretty ****ing savage.
A week amongst them and you'll be begging for refuge at a Tea Party rally.